Turbo Mustang Drift car

[96Plumls]

Took these pics at the drift event
and this mustang had an sts system and was said to make in excess of 450whp without an engine mods


http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00741.jpg

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00742.jpg

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00743.jpg

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00594.jpg

[DieselNuts]

SOHC ftl. Props for the STS setup though. I'm a fan of those. Never seen one on a Mustang. Also looks to be a non-intercooled setup...

[96Plumls]

it is so there's more power to be made on it

[DieselNuts]

it is so there's more power to be made on it

I believe it. With the STS setup, the piping actually acts as an intercooler, so it really isn't a necessity. Once you add an intercooler, the setup will be running around 95% efficentcy where your typical under the hood turbo + intercooler is MUCH less.

I did a decent amount of research on these kits when I had my G35. I almost let them use my car as a guinea pig for the first G kit but someone beat me to it :(

[40th GT]

So how'd it do? I saw it being trailered away on Sunday.

[NevrNufTorq]

bada$$ car for sure:goodjob:

[96Plumls]

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00631.jpg

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee335/roclark07/DSC00539.jpg

[THEONE]

i love the remote mount turbo set up those work really well on lt1's i never saw one on a stang it look good.

[imports]

looks like a beast!

[MachNU]

i call bullshit on 450 at the ground through a stock 2v! Cast rods/pistons/crank could not handle that pressure! on top of no supporting mods, except what looks like a possible plenum, tb, intake, and looks like maybe a fuel rail.

though interesting seeing a STS kit on a mustang. looks like an interesting set-up!

[SHHHH]

i call bullshit on 450 at the ground through a stock 2v! Cast rods/pistons/crank could not handle that pressure! on top of no supporting mods, except what looks like a possible plenum, tb, intake, and looks like maybe a fuel rail.

though interesting seeing a STS kit on a mustang. looks like an interesting set-up!


450rwhp isnt super crazy for a stock internal 2v, its pushing it but its been done.

[Dwisforme05]

Sts kits sound wicked.

[WTF?]

saw this at the drift event and it did pretty damn good

[cpearson]

Nice.

[OTG Signs]

450rwhp isnt super crazy for a stock internal 2v, its pushing it but its been done.

Yep. I've seen 600rwhp on a stock 2V block, even if it lasted a few minutes on the dyno before popping.

[roscoe]

seems like alot of power for stock internals.... not sure how tough mustang's internals are but i doubt that setup will last long lol

[Big Baller]

i call bullshit on 450 at the ground through a stock 2v! Cast rods/pistons/crank could not handle that pressure! on top of no supporting mods, except what looks like a possible plenum, tb, intake, and looks like maybe a fuel rail.

though interesting seeing a STS kit on a mustang. looks like an interesting set-up!

I made 470whp to the ground on a stock 2v with longtubes and a nitrous kit.

[OTG Signs]

seems like alot of power for stock internals.... not sure how tough mustang's internals are but i doubt that setup will last long lol

Over 400rwhp means a ticking time bomb. Just a matter of time.

[Brian*]

Sic shit!

[SHHHH]

Over 400rwhp means a ticking time bomb. Just a matter of time.



Not sure who told you that,stock 2v with 400rwhp will last years

[zombieslider]

i was thinking about doing a rearmount turbo set up for a ka-t once.

[Big Baller]

Over 400rwhp means a ticking time bomb. Just a matter of time.

470whp and over 500tq and I made over 300 passes down the strip in mine. Took 3 years and some very aggressive jetting to break a ringland. That jetting netted me over 500whp. So if thats what you call a ticking time bomb....then I guess....its a ticking time bomb.

[Glides]

Dougs been running his remote mount turbo setup on his Mustang for 2 years now I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv_X38QEFQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVfeDNYI0ec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTl8BYGvqBg&feature=fvw

In car.....maddening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsELC-jUC0g

Doug's probably one of the coolest people you will ever meet as well. His car's insane. He is Gitten's partner for all the Barrett Jackson demos. Wicked car.

[40th GT]

Over 400rwhp means a ticking time bomb. Just a matter of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-UiXotuXE

That may be true on your Honda though.

[GangstaCoupe]

He is a nice guy, and there is a build thread of the car over on corral. I believe there are some dyno sheet also.

[MachNU]

I made 470whp to the ground on a stock 2v with longtubes and a nitrous kit.

Nitrous is different. Unless your always running around on it I see a nitrous 450rwhp car lasting all the time. hell my brothers with a mild cam, FULL exhaust, intake manifold, plenum, tb, intake, maf, injectors, fuel rail, pulleys and a 125 shot has lasted for well over 2 years.


Over 400rwhp means a ticking time bomb. Just a matter of time.

No 400rwph for a FI stock 2v is quite common. The MPH Mongoose Kit quarentees 400rwhp all day long. But 450rwhp with a great tune is okay, but past there it becomes a time bomb.

[OTG Signs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-UiXotuXE

That may be true on your Honda though.

I've had six Mustangs, with number seven coming soon. :)

[OTG Signs]

No 400rwph for a FI stock 2v is quite common. The MPH Mongoose Kit quarentees 400rwhp all day long. But 450rwhp with a great tune is okay, but past there it becomes a time bomb.

MPH tuned my Bullitt to 423rwhp and Tim said I should go ahead and start saving for a new shortblock as it'll need one soon at that power level. My 02 GT and 04 GTs also had centrifugal blowers and both were over 400rwhp. :)

[SHHHH]

MPH tuned my Bullitt to 423rwhp and Tim said I should go ahead and start saving for a new shortblock as it'll need one soon at that power level. My 02 GT and 04 GTs also had centrifugal blowers and both were over 400rwhp. :)


Tim usually tunes very safe so maybe he saw a problem with your setup.

[OTG Signs]

Tim usually tunes very safe so maybe he saw a problem with your setup.

It was a very safe tune indeed. This was the first run of the standard three.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/andrewfrom1985/Pic003.jpg

[MachNU]

Weird, I have a friend that had a 2.1 KB 2v Kit on his car, he did the install and all the added bolt ons, and had Tim tune it and it ran great. Made somewhere in the mid to high 400's for about 8 months, until he finally lifted the heads about 3/4 the way down the track. But yet like stated before I know nitrous 2v's that have been running 125-150 shots with a good number of bolt ons for awhile with no problems. Guess its the luck of the draw when it comes to Mod Motors! :lmao:

[OTG Signs]

Weird, I have a friend that had a 2.1 KB 2v Kit on his car, he did the install and all the added bolt ons, and had Tim tune it and it ran great. Made somewhere in the mid to high 400's for about 8 months, until he finally lifted the heads about 3/4 the way down the track. But yet like stated before I know nitrous 2v's that have been running 125-150 shots with a good number of bolt ons for awhile with no problems. Guess its the luck of the draw when it comes to Mod Motors! :lmao:

It's probably luck of the draw and maintenance combined. But once you break the 4XX mark, it starts to get hairy on the stock block (2V).

[SHHHH]

Neat, guess we'll just agree to disagree because you wont have a problem with a 400 setup on a stock block. Theres a thread on MPH forums with a list of people running safe 400+ setups for years but you've probably already seen it in the 2v section. We can atleast agree that Tim is the fucking man haha:goodjob:

[MachNU]

It's probably luck of the draw and maintenance combined. But once you break the 4XX mark, it starts to get hairy on the stock block (2V).

Yep, not like the cobras and Mach 1's that have an industry standard number guide....2v's are just to much hit and miss with stock block capabilities!

[OTG Signs]

Neat, guess we'll just agree to disagree because you wont have a problem with a 400 setup on a stock block. Theres a thread on MPH forums with a list of people running safe 400+ setups for years but you've probably already seen it in the 2v section. We can atleast agree that Tim is the fucking man haha:goodjob:

Agreed. Just for the topic, here's the other blower cars of my past:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/andrewfrom1985/Orange%20GT/attachment-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/andrewfrom1985/ae3bd560.jpg

And the Bullitt's setup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/andrewfrom1985/fbbb453e.jpg

[DieselNuts]

Yep, not like the cobras and Mach 1's that have an industry standard number guide....2v's are just to much hit and miss with stock block capabilities!

The Mach has an aluminum block and cast internals, correct? Before I got my Cobra I thought about a Mach1 but decided against it because of reading that 450 was the MAX you could run safely before building the bottom end.

[MachNU]

The Mach has an aluminum block and cast internals, correct? Before I got my Cobra I thought about a Mach1 but decided against it because of reading that 450 was the MAX you could run safely before building the bottom end.

yep, like I said Mach's and cobras have an industry standard for how far you can go before buying yourself a new block.

Cobras are alum blocks with forged crank/rods/pistons, machs are alum blocks with cast rods/pistons and a forged crank. The limit for a safe tune via FI on a stock block is 450-460...anything past there and you will not last long. but most people detune for 420-440!

[OTG Signs]

The Mach has an aluminum block and cast internals, correct? Before I got my Cobra I thought about a Mach1 but decided against it because of reading that 450 was the MAX you could run safely before building the bottom end.

Well, to play devil's advocate, Pro Line can build a 800hp-stable shortblock for $3600. An older Cobra (99/01) or aged Mach 1 with a Pro Line motor would be a great starting point for some serious numbers! The TR3650 transmission isn't all that strong, however, but could handle ~500rwhp for a while before blowing up.

[MachNU]

Well, to play devil's advocate, Pro Line can build a 800hp-stable shortblock for $3600. An older Cobra (99/01) or aged Mach 1 with a Pro Line motor would be a great starting point for some serious numbers! The TR3650 transmission isn't all that strong, however, but could handle ~500rwhp for a while before blowing up.

holy fuck who have you meet that can drive around with a stock 3650 at 500rwhp?

But you are right on the starting points on those cars. MMR sells there FI Stroker 5L 302 Short block good for 900hp for $3299! I know because I should have gotten it when I did my shortblock! :(

[The Great NY]

i call bullshit on 450 at the ground through a stock 2v! Cast rods/pistons/crank could not handle that pressure! on top of no supporting mods, except what looks like a possible plenum, tb, intake, and looks like maybe a fuel rail.

though interesting seeing a STS kit on a mustang. looks like an interesting set-up!



427r is making 435hp on a stock 4.6L, so why is it not possible? ford make strong motors.

[MachNU]

427r is making 435hp on a stock 4.6L, so why is it not possible? ford make strong motors.

435crank hp or rwhp is fine...where talking going above 450rwhp. its a time bomb on boosted cars.

[DieselNuts]

Cobras are alum blocks

This is incorrect. Cobras have an iron block. Not aluminum. Daily driven/abused Cobras with almost 500rwhp are pretty common and those engines are still in great condition. I've seen a TT Cobra with stock bottom end, heads and cams make 873rwhp on race gas. Conservative street tune was in the high 600s.

[MachNU]

This is incorrect. Cobras have an iron block. Not aluminum. Daily driven/abused Cobras with almost 500rwhp are pretty common and those engines are still in great condition. I've seen a TT Cobra with stock bottom end, heads and cams make 873rwhp on race gas. Conservative street tune was in the high 600s.

dam always thought the cobras had alum blocks as well! But yes there are tons of twin and single turbo, and KB/Whipple stock bottom end cobras running around!

[DieselNuts]

dam always thought the cobras had alum blocks as well! But yes there are tons of twin and single turbo, and KB/Whipple stock bottom end cobras running around!

well, the Terminators are iron block. The New Edge Cobras and 4.6 SN95s are aluminum:goodjob: