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Slomaro Z28
09-13-2009, 08:10 PM
Millionaire faces jail for attacking intruder

"A millionaire in the UK faces life in prison for attacking a robber who held him and his family at knife point, a story by the Telegraph.co.uk (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212680/Millionaire-faces-jail-attack-knife-raider-home.html) said.
Munir Hussain, 52, was found guilty of "inflicting grievous bodily harm with intent," for attacking Walid Salem, 56, one of three raiders who broke into his house and forced him, his wife and three children to lie on the floor with their hands behind their backs. At some point they were able to overtake Salem, and neighbors say they saw "several men" beating him with weapons including a cricket bat and a metal pole.
Salem was left with injuries including a fractured skull and bruising on the brain. In another twist, Salem could be eligible for criminal injury compensation, even though he recovered to commit other crimes."


Man, I know you're not supposed to follow or chase someone outside. This guy took an opening and overtook the guy in his house and is still gonna be charged, whats the world coming too.

TheGrillMan
09-13-2009, 08:12 PM
wow....

SampaGuy
09-13-2009, 08:17 PM
and people get surprised when i tell them i wouldnt want to live in europe long term

silversol
09-13-2009, 08:19 PM
he should have killed him!

Honda_91EF
09-13-2009, 08:20 PM
Haaaaaa, lol. In my country in europe, you can kill someone and get away with it.

Slow Motion
09-13-2009, 08:34 PM
Dang, you know it's bad when you can't even protect your house. The time when people overthrough their government is gonna happen if the system keeps getting tighter on people allowing violent acts like this to reign supreme.

SampaGuy
09-13-2009, 08:44 PM
Haaaaaa, lol. In my country in europe, you can kill someone and get away with it.

umm yeah you can do that here or in england too

TheSnail
09-13-2009, 08:48 PM
Cricket Bat? Should of used a good ole American Sluger. He wouldnt be in these predicaments having to possibly pay for this so called criminal injury compensation.

nismo_92
09-13-2009, 08:52 PM
wow lol

RandomGuy
09-13-2009, 08:56 PM
in pakistan you can kill someone in the middle of the street and get out of it

Honda_91EF
09-13-2009, 09:01 PM
umm yeah you can do that here or in england too


Bullshit, 1 out of 100 don't get caught.

Kasper
09-13-2009, 09:23 PM
That shits just dumb.. i thaught we were the only ones that gave money to people that tried to steel it and get caught!. na.. the govt will alow us to suffer and punish us for protecting ourselves but the moment it involves them.. its a death sentence! that why i shoot first and dont bother asking questions..

SampaGuy
09-13-2009, 09:33 PM
Bullshit, 1 out of 100 don't get caught.


40 out of 100 suicides/accidents weren't actually suicides or accidents

ATL86
09-13-2009, 09:38 PM
I heard about a robber in the US who broke in a home, cut himself on the window or something, then proceeded to successfully sue the homeowner. Fucked up world we live in...

Slomaro Z28
09-13-2009, 09:40 PM
I heard about a robber in the US who broke in a home, cut himself on the window or something, then proceeded to successfully sue the homeowner. Fucked up world we live in...

yeah, I heard about that too.

98blackcivic
09-13-2009, 10:05 PM
in pakistan you can kill someone in the middle of the street and get out of it


hell yea and you can bribe the police with 500 rupes..thats like less than $20 bux!!

nreggie454
09-13-2009, 10:28 PM
40 out of 100 suicides/accidents weren't actually suicides or accidents
83% of statistics are made up.

SampaGuy
09-13-2009, 10:32 PM
83% of statistics are made up.


when confronted with a bs statistic, come back with a bs statistic ;)

02SloWrx
09-13-2009, 11:06 PM
Haaaaaa, lol. In my country in europe, you can kill someone and get away with it.


And thats why Bosnia is the shitties country in the world, right after Somalia.

tdurr
09-14-2009, 12:03 AM
fuck that. How can he go to jail for that???????

§treet_§peed
09-14-2009, 12:03 AM
lol wow what a shitty world we live in. You try to defend your families well being and get punished. Thats highly fucked up.

ALVIN
09-14-2009, 07:52 AM
People that make up bullshit about their own countries piss me off. Just stating that no where in the world are you ALLOWED to kill someone and LEGALLY get away with. Not even in Bosnia.

Kevykev
09-14-2009, 09:15 AM
, even though he recovered to commit other crimes."

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This is the most unbelievably bizarre statements in the article, given the circumstances. WOWWW! :no:


I know we've all heard about these incidents with hopes of them being urban legends but i guess they are a reality.

cjhutch
09-14-2009, 09:54 AM
I was talking to an officer here about something similar and he told me that once the threat is diminished if you continue to fight back you could be charged with a crime. I asked about shooting someone and he said you would be better off killing the person trying to rob you rather than giving them a severe beat down. Moral of the story, dead men don't talk.

ScrapMetalDSM
09-14-2009, 12:28 PM
I wish we lived in a "make my day" state. Some states in the US (cant remember which or how many ) actually allow the homeowner to use deadly force when an intrusion happens. It is also referred to as the "castle Doctrine" Since a mans home is his Castle.


A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal concept arising from English Common Law[1] that designates one's place of residence (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as one's car or place of work) as a place in which one enjoys protection from illegal trespassing and violent attack. It then goes on to give a person the legal right to use deadly force to defend that place (his/her "castle"), and/or any other innocent persons legally inside it, from violent attack or an intrusion which may lead to violent attack. In a legal context, therefore, use of deadly force which actually results in death may be defended as justifiable homicide under the Castle Doctrine.

Castle Doctrines are legislated by state, and not all states in the US have a Castle Doctrine. The term "Make My Day Law" comes from the landmark 1985 Colorado statute that protects people from any criminal charge or civil suit if they use force – including deadly force – against an invader of the home.[2] The law's nickname is a reference to the famous line uttered by Clint Eastwood's character Harry Callahan in the 1983 film Sudden Impact, "Go ahead, make my day."

This legal doctrine concerning the rights of homeowners to bear arms for self-defense, was recently argued in the Supreme Court case of District of Columbia v. Heller which addressed its relation to the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

ALVIN
09-14-2009, 12:31 PM
I mean we kinda do dont we...?

Greddypacked
09-14-2009, 12:37 PM
Thats BS. Guy was protecting his family and house and gets prison for fighting off thieves. The government there needs to shape up that's crazy.


Edit: The 2 robbers escaped after they found out one of the sons escaped, then the other robber was fleeing also. The owner of the house then threw a f.cking table at the thief hitting him in the head. Then the thief still fleed and was chased by the owner and family getting caught. Then brutally hit w/ a cricket bat and pole when the guy wasnt on his property and neighbors witnessed a cruel beating which was intent. The jury convicted the home owner and others w/ inflicting grievous bodily harm with intent, which is not doing it to protect family and belongings. The guy just went to far on the beatings so they charged him for it when obviously the thief was fleeing and no longer a threat. Still I say it's Bs.

tdurr
09-14-2009, 12:46 PM
...test...

Kasper
09-14-2009, 12:55 PM
There was a lady my dad worked with. dude was brakeing into her home, fell threw her skylight, ended up brakeing his legs, sued her, and won. hense the reason if that shit ever happened to me.. im blowin his brains all over my carpet and calling it self defense!

Frög
09-14-2009, 03:28 PM
and people get surprised when i tell them i wouldnt want to live in europe long term

x2

It is ridiculous!

Greddypacked
09-14-2009, 03:31 PM
dang double posts lol

Greddypacked
09-14-2009, 03:33 PM
fuck that. How can he go to jail for that???????


This is HOW...


But the Hussains' teenage son managed to escape through a window and when the men realised that, two of them fled.
Hussain then threw a coffee table at the third man, 56-year-old Walid Salem, hitting him in the face. His older son Awais, 20, joined the fight and although Salem tried to escape he was bundled into a nearby garden.
Neighbours in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, then saw several men beating him with weapons including a cricket bat and a metal pole. He was left with injuries including a fractured skull and bruising on the brain.
Hussain denied attacking Salem, claiming it was a group of local youths. But a jury at Reading Crown Court found him guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm with intent.
His brother Tokeer, 35, was convicted on the same charge but the jury failed to reach a verdict on their nephew Wahleed Hussain, 20.
Judge John Reddihough freed the brothers on bail until October 9, but warned them that this did not mean they would not be jailed. The maximum sentence for GBH with intent is life.
A family member said last night: 'This is one more shocking blow for a man who thought he had suffered enough last September. We are absolutely devastated, it's hard to believe in justice any


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212680/Millionaire-faces-jail-attack-knife-raider-home.html#ixzz0R7BTzaRL.

I suppose the jury saw that they were obviously trying to kill him while he was retreating and off the property. You cant deliberatly hurt someone so much like they did when he had left their property, it's in the law's hands then. Now on them being on the property yes you can defend yourself as much as possible to what ever degree is saving you and your family from being hurt.

claybird
09-14-2009, 03:42 PM
He probably tortured the robber after they had over came him. Like they stopped the robber and over excessively beat him.



Or he could live in a fuktd country!!!

x Resilience
09-14-2009, 03:59 PM
People that make up bullshit about their own countries piss me off. Just stating that no where in the world are you ALLOWED to kill someone and LEGALLY get away with. Not even in Bosnia.



Agree. In Bosnia I believe the minimum is 4 years for murder and it goes up to 10 or 25 not sure. It all depends on who your victim is, but you still can't get away.

xxbckiexx
09-14-2009, 04:07 PM
i would've introduced him to 100 grain traveling at 1500 ft a second if he came in my house like that. him and his 3 stupid fucking friends.