old skool FERRARi

[ATL_e92]

saw this on google, claen and its just damn sexy:boobies:

[nsany(atl)]

nice 280ZX

[cjhutch]

nice 280ZX

Exactly, no one with that car is going to have it on an open trailer being pulled by an Explorer. The fit and finish on the kit looks good from what i can see.

[Saung]

Nice kit car.

[1439/2000]

LOL people that get fooled by those.

[Elbow]

My friend has a kit one.

[SampaGuy]

umm looks real to me. how can you tell?

[Elbow]

I personally cannot tell from this photo, as it's VERY well done if it's a kit car, I'm not sure if it's real or fake, so yeah those who say it's fake chime in, towing on a open trailer isn't an option, I've seen F40's on open trailers.

[TSiFTW]

Exactly, no one with that car is going to have it on an open trailer being pulled by an Explorer. The fit and finish on the kit looks good from what i can see.

Kit or no kit, I see exotics being pulled down I-20 all the time on open trailers by regular old trucks and suvs.

[Big Baller]

Kit or no kit, I see exotics being pulled down I-20 all the time on open trailers by regular old trucks and suvs.

Well at first glance it looks like a 250 gto. Lets assume that it is, I know I remember one of those going for something crazy like 12 million dollars. Now if you had a 12 Millon dollar car would you be pulling it down 20 with your explorer or would you be having it transported by a company that is insured to handle such things.

[Me86Rob]

im pretty sure thats not a kit

[Big Baller]

im pretty sure thats not a kit

Your wrong, upon further investigation, they built 36 from 1962 to 1964. One of them once sold for close to 15 million dollars.

[Elbow]

Your wrong, upon further investigation, they built 36 from 1962 to 1964. One of them once sold for close to 15 million dollars.

...and that means it's not a kit?

If a 17 million dollar Ferrari drives at race speed on track during a race at Road Atlanta, I am pretty sure a 15 million show car can be towed on an open trailer.

[speedminded]

That is not a 240z/260z window frame or roof line...


Real 250 GTO:

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jalongi/gifs/250gto.jpg



Replica 250 GTO (Obvious 240z door window frame and roof line and wrong door handles)

http://www.charterhouse-auctions.co.uk/images/CS14%20m%20GTO.JPG



BUT since there were only 36 250 GTO's ever built with sales ranging from in the millions to $25 million USD. This is highly unlikely to be one of them. Companies have now figured out how to recreate the correct window frame. That rear tail is also molded incorrectly. ;)

[Frög]

Damn that thing looks good! Im gonna have to go with replica..

Should be less rounded off right here:

[speedminded]

Your wrong, upon further investigation, they built 36 from 1962 to 1964. One of them once sold for close to 15 million dollars.15.7 million pounds ($25'ish million USD), owned by a former chairman of Samsung ;)

Evidence other than the rear tail make it look real, i'm still going over it...



...and that means it's not a kit?

If a 17 million dollar Ferrari drives at race speed on track during a race at Road Atlanta, I am pretty sure a 15 million show car can be towed on an open trailer.Big difference, the track is controlled and highways are not. Too many variables. I find it highly unlikely someone would allow a multi-million car be dependant on a pair of $50 trailer tires.

I worked for an engineering company that did the airport runway projects and we were required to have over $1 million in insurance coverage on each of our Nissan Frontiers because of the planes nearby. I doubt an insurance company would be dumb enough to allow a $10+ million policy on a Ford Explorer and aluminum trailer...and I doubt someone would transport the car without sufficient coverage.



Damn that thing looks good! Im gonna have to go with replica..

Should be less rounded off right here:Yep! It's too bloated and goes down too far.

[Frög]

meh I wish the picture was better quality.. it is hard to see..

[Big Baller]

...and that means it's not a kit?

If a 17 million dollar Ferrari drives at race speed on track during a race at Road Atlanta, I am pretty sure a 15 million show car can be towed on an open trailer.

You know who drives 17 million dollar Ferraris around Road Atlanta. People who don't drive fucking Ford Explorers.

If anyone here thinks that someone with enough money to buy a 15 million dollar car is going to tow it on a open trailer.....Get in line theres a redneck handing out signs on the left.

[Frög]

You know who drives 17 million dollar Ferraris around Road Atlanta. People who don't drive fucking Ford Explorers.

BS! I know people that have multiple ferrari's, porsche's, a RR phantom, and a whole secret collection.. His daily and grocery getter is an explorer..

[speedminded]

meh I wish the picture was better quality.. it is hard to see..The problem is they're all custom made so there will be differences. Here's a REAL 250 GTO Series I next to the Series II on the left. Notice the Series I tail looks different than the one you just posted.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2rei29v.jpg



BS! I know people that have multiple ferrari's, porsche's, a RR phantom, and a whole secret collection.. His daily and grocery getter is an explorer..Bet you he doesn't haul his most valuable car behind it ;)

[SampaGuy]

Didnt know they were THAT rare...

[AnthonyF]

Exactly, no one with that car is going to have it on an open trailer being pulled by an Explorer. The fit and finish on the kit looks good from what i can see.

lolol First thing I thought!!

-Ant.

[Elbow]

You know what Danny Panoz owns? A Mustang. Know what his wife has? A Miata. LMFAO.

Don't give me shit about people with expensive cars can't also have just normal cars.

[Nick Jeezy]

ive been to quite a few Ferrari meets and ive seen a few. they were all real. and look just like that one. i dont think its fake.

[Elbow]

ive been to quite a few Ferrari meets and ive seen a few. they were all real. and look just like that one. i dont think its fake.

Fail? :???:

[Big Baller]

ive been to quite a few Ferrari meets and ive seen a few. they were all real. and look just like that one. i dont think its fake.

Heres your sign





You guys can't really be this stupid...I mean really...do you really fucking think thats a real 250 GTO

If you do just kill yourself now

[Big Baller]

You know what Danny Panoz owns? A Mustang. Know what his wife has? A Miata. LMFAO.

Don't give me shit about people with expensive cars can't also have just normal cars.

Give me a fucking break. You are one of the few people on this board I would have expected to be smarter than this.

[cjhutch]

A lot of the replies seem to stem from my original comment. Upon further investigation of the photo I don't think the tow vehicle is an Explorer. I don't really know SUV's, but that has a Euro rear tail panel. Notice how long and narrow the area is for the rear plate. Also the sign to the right does not look like anything I've seen here in the states. I still think it's a kit, but that opens the option to what the donor car is because they have so many cars over there we don't have here.

[Elbow]

Give me a fucking break. You are one of the few people on this board I would have expected to be smarter than this.

I stated facts lol, this may be a replica I don't care, just saying you can't decide just because of the tow vehicle.

[Big Baller]

I stated facts lol, this may be a replica I don't care, just saying you can't decide just because of the tow vehicle.

Thats just it you can decide purely based on the vehicle. Insurance companies that insure vehicles like this would only insure it if it was being transported in a proper manner. A proper manner for a 15 plus million dollar car is in a covered stacker trailer at minimum

[1439/2000]

...and that means it's not a kit?

If a 17 million dollar Ferrari drives at race speed on track during a race at Road Atlanta, I am pretty sure a 15 million show car can be towed on an open trailer.

By a fucking bullshit Ford? Think about that.

[SampaGuy]

I don't really know SUV's, but that has a Euro rear tail panel.


Good observation. European millionaire daily drive cars like these, then send them to Maranello/Stuttgart/wherever for maintenance. I saw a BMW M1 almost daily in traffic in Munich, also saw a Porsche 959 in Madrid during rush hour traffic on a week day. You cannot assume the Ferrari is fake just because its in an open trailer...

[EJ25RUN]

I stated facts lol, this may be a replica I don't care, just saying you can't decide just because of the tow vehicle.

Simon.....comon.....seriously?

A REAL 250 GTO would be transported in a trailer like the ones used by pro race teams.

250 GTOs are past the point of being "just a car." It's more like rare jewelry.

You'd never catch an owner of the hope diamond just walking around with it anywhere as you'd never catch a 250 GTO being driven around like that.

Here's what i mean.....

http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/Sold%20Cars/Lambo%20Transport%20%285%29.JPG




Good observation. European millionaire daily drive cars like these, then send them to Maranello/Stuttgart/wherever for maintenance. I saw a BMW M1 almost daily in traffic in Munich, also saw a Porsche 959 in Madrid during rush hour traffic on a week day. You cannot assume the Ferrari is fake just because its in an open trailer...

But an M1 isn't worth tens of millions. Neither is a 959.

Unlike most people on here, for me, the issue is not the Ford but the open trailer. There are too many hazards associated with that. I wouldn't carry a Rolex in a bucket.

[zero-60]

The owner either has a good replica or is a complete dumbass. For the sake of the car, I hope it's just a replica.

and it's an m-class...just sayin'

[speedminded]

ive been to quite a few Ferrari meets and ive seen a few. they were all real. and look just like that one. i dont think its fake.lololol! righttt. Lemme guess, in Palm Beach Florida?

[RedGTS]

It would be in an enclosed trailer if it was real, plus not dirty as f either.
Its a replica for sure

[Glides]

Well. You cannot judge anything by it being on an open trailer. i've seen Lambo's on open trailers rolling down the road with the alarm going off. I saw a guy (No shit) Towing a brand new Ford GT backwards on a damm tow dolly going across the tracks in Statham Ga and screwed up the front end of it when the nose drug down the asphalt. And he was driving a 90's Toyota truck. There was a guy in my old girlfriends neighborhood that had a real deal Corvette Grand Sport from the 60's and pulled it 20 miles or so with a tow strap smashing the front end of it on the truck in front of him when he wasn't paying attention. Not to mention the guy in Athens with the GT40, Million dollars he paid for that thing. Used to take it out and drive it all over Athens. Was like the last street driven GT40 in the world or something as I was told.

It happens. I have no doubt that someone would load a 15 million dollar Ferrari up on an open trailer because of one reason. Rich people are usually dumb when it comes to things like cars. Also, it's been well proven by Vintage Racers. If he takes that car out to the track and wrecks it, all he has to do is rebuild it and it's still worth 15 million dollars. Same thing if it gets wrecked on the trailer, all he needs to do is rebuild it back to the spec it is now and it's not going to depreciate. Thats the beauty of the super rare, ultra expensive vintage exotics.

Now, do I think that is a real 250? Nope. Do I wish it was? Yeap. Because I like to see Exotics brought out. I think it should be driven, not trailored.

[JITB]

lol u all are crazy man.. none of you know..so be quiet!

[Glides]

lol u all are crazy man.. none of you know..so be quiet!

Ya know. I see what you did there.....and I agree with it.

[JITB]

Ya know. I see what you did there.....and I agree with it.

wasnt directly to anyone.. just funny to read the replies and than i thought about it...that noone really knows.:lmfao:

[ATL_e92]

that does make sence, a 15 million dollar car on a open trailer not smart unless you dont give a fuck about the car, so i will have to agree with everyone on this. and that suv is not a ford!

[cpearson]

wow, that is straight up sex appeal.

[Elbow]

Simon.....comon.....seriously?

A REAL 250 GTO would be transported in a trailer like the ones used by pro race teams.

250 GTOs are past the point of being "just a car." It's more like rare jewelry.

You'd never catch an owner of the hope diamond just walking around with it anywhere as you'd never catch a 250 GTO being driven around like that.

Here's what i mean.....

http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/Sold%20Cars/Lambo%20Transport%20%285%29.JPG





But an M1 isn't worth tens of millions. Neither is a 959.

Unlike most people on here, for me, the issue is not the Ford but the open trailer. There are too many hazards associated with that. I wouldn't carry a Rolex in a bucket.

Well all I know is I've seen some stupid shit being towed on open trailers and some crazy stuff in general. I saw a open semi trailer with an F40, F50, a few Lambos, and some other exotics at a gas station.

[Glides]

Well all I know is I've seen some stupid shit being towed on open trailers and some crazy stuff in general. I saw a open semi trailer with an F40, F50, a few Lambos, and some other exotics at a gas station.

Yea. It happens all the time.

It's not that people don't give a damm about the cars either, it's just that they don't think of the repurcussions. It's simple human nature, you don't think it could happen to you. Then.....when it does, you look back and think "Man, I probably shouldn't have put that car on the rickety trailor....oh well, i'll get it fixed".

Go to races like the Silver State open road challenge or the La Carrera Pan-America. You will see some expensive vintage iron down there. They also run em flat out. When they wreck em....most will say they will just get it fixed and it's still worth what it was worth before the wreck.

The reason is supply. Newer Exotics don't have a supply problem. But the 250 has a huge supply problem, there just aren't any of them. So the demand will outweigh the accident simply because there are no others to be bought.

[speedminded]

Well all I know is I've seen some stupid shit being towed on open trailers and some crazy stuff in general. I saw a open semi trailer with an F40, F50, a few Lambos, and some other exotics at a gas station.The argument isn't or shouldn't be about an open trailer. Bugs on a windshield or headlights and possibly a couple rock chips isn't going to hurt a car. I guarantee you that semi has more insurance coverage than the euro minivan/suv thing and aluminum trailer. The F50 will be the most valuable at $750-900k, followed by the F40 for $500-600k, then whatever the Lambos are worth...probably no more than $150-250k each. All those combined still won't reach even the low end value of a 250 GTO, as in the cheapest one has ever sold for.


Anything is possible though? ;)

http://www.funnypictures.net.au/images/bugatti-veyron-on-the-back-of-a-truck-in-russia.jpg

[Elbow]

I've seen a 250 GTO get rained on, does that count? lol

[speedminded]

I've seen a 250 GTO get rained on, does that count? lolyeah, damages it about as much as washing it. :tongue:

[Glides]

The argument isn't or shouldn't be about an open trailer. Bugs on a windshield or headlights and possibly a couple rock chips isn't going to hurt a car. I guarantee you that semi has more insurance coverage than the euro minivan/suv thing and aluminum trailer. The F50 will be the most valuable at $750-900k, followed by the F40 for $500-600k, then whatever the Lambos are worth...probably no more than $150-250k each. All those combined still won't reach even the low end value of a 250 GTO, as in the cheapest one has ever sold for.


Anything is possible though? ;)

http://www.funnypictures.net.au/images/bugatti-veyron-on-the-back-of-a-truck-in-russia.jpg

That photo right there sums up what I said about rich people and their inability to grasp what their toys are worth to other people. When you are inundated with money, things like this are just another posession. To us they are godly automobiles, to them....just a car.

[speedminded]

That photo right there sums up what I said about rich people and their inability to grasp what their toys are worth to other people. When you are inundated with money, things like this are just another posession. To us they are godly automobiles, to them....just a car.10 Veyrons were made available in Moscow, orders placed, then they were dispersed throughout Russia upon their arrival...apparently that was one of the ways it was delivered. I would still say that is safer than a small trailer but I wouldn't want to be the one loading or unloading it though lol!




http://englishrussia.com/images/bugatti_veyron_moscow/2.jpg

A 1001 hp Bugatti Veyron worth of $1.1M was presented to public in Moscow city, in the capital of the country where the average doctor’s salary is $150 per month or $1800 per year.

[dragoncelica]

Well i have seen replicas of the 250 gto that are made close or exactlly the same as those ones for less than 100k with aluminum hand formed bodys and ferrary powertrains, who knows this is one of those replicas but definetlly not a kit out of a 280z you can tell by the deep dish wire knock offs wheels and the fat tire plus the roofline and slide door window it may have a chevy V8 under the hood but it is not a 280z kit!

[speedminded]

Well i have seen replicas of the 250 gto that are made close or exactlly the same as those ones for less than 100k with aluminum hand formed bodys and ferrary powertrains, who knows this is one of those replicas but definetlly not a kit out of a 280z you can tell by the deep dish wire knock offs wheels and the fat tire plus the roofline and slide door window it may have a chevy V8 under the hood but it is not a 280z kit!Window frames are easily changed, then the jamb is modified to match. Or you can just take the entire roof off...

http://image.kitcarmag.com/f/9173498/142-0307-velorossa01_z.jpg

As you can see you can put that fat of a tire on a 240/60/80. Look at my examples of replica's I posted that retain the original Z window frames.

The aluminum body one you're speaking of was most likely built from a 250 GT, several were made from modified 250 GT using Ferrari parts. There are even a couple that have GTO noses and 250 GT rear ends. Still replica's but would fool anyone that isn't an extremely knowledgeable Ferrari connoisseur.

[dragoncelica]

99% of the replicas i have seen they do not change the window frame to make it more realistic matter of facts i havent seen one yet, but there is another company making complete kits with fiber bodies just like the A/C Cobras they do the chassis and all the suspension components, but cant remember the name of the company, as you can see in the picture you post thats a nicelly don convertible but they just have a big fail in the wheel choice on the stamped steel knock off lookalike instead of aluminum real ones, but none the less superb i have seen the picture before.

[dragoncelica]

Ok i am going to point out what makes this a non nissan 280z based GTO replica!
1- the door wintow frame
2- the door botom line higher than the 280z based kit
3- the jack lifting points showing tru the body sides one near the bottom back and bottom front of the door
4- the wheel deep dish aluminum knock off style
5- the windshield moulding rubber showing a lot on the 280z based than the GTO
6- door handles
And i can point a lot more but this is enough!
I am not saying is not a replica but i am 100% sure is not a nissan datsun 280z based replica!

[speedminded]

Ok i am going to point out what makes this a non nissan 280z based GTO replica!
1- the door wintow frame
2- the door botom line higher than the 280z based kit
3- the jack lifting points showing tru the body sides one near the bottom back and bottom front of the door
4- the wheel deep dish aluminum knock off style
5- the windshield moulding rubber showing a lot on the 280z based than the GTO
6- door handles
And i can point a lot more but this is enough!
I am not saying is not a replica but i am 100% sure is not a nissan datsun 280z based replica!Z based kit with correct door handles...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1690/4821/29224910034_large.jpg


Z based kit with incorrect door handles...

http://www.charterhouse-auctions.co.uk/images/CS14%20m%20GTO.JPG

Both with knock-off wire wheels.

[Glides]

One thing that is completely different is the rear spoiler on each of those Z based kits. It's straight across. The one on the first page is correct, rounded. Flares are more pronounced on the op one as well. I have to agree with Dragon on this, it's either not a Z based kit, or it's been extensively modified.

[Echonova]

Z based kit with correct door handles...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1690/4821/29224910034_large.jpg


Z based kit with incorrect door handles...

http://www.charterhouse-auctions.co.uk/images/CS14%20m%20GTO.JPG

Both with knock-off wire wheels.Both have the fuel filler in the wrong place, but the top one looks damn good.

[Elbow]

Where's Rusty? He has one lol.

[Brian*]

It's cool either way!

[DVSRX-7]

you guys are some hard headed mother fuckers, the guy was just posting a pic of a Ferrari, replica or not, its was done right or is in nice shape.. morons

[EJ25RUN]

you guys are some hard headed mother fuckers, the guy was just posting a pic of a Ferrari, replica or not, its was done right or is in nice shape.. morons

Telling apart a real from a fake is what makes you a smart enthusiast.

[Glides]

you guys are some hard headed mother fuckers, the guy was just posting a pic of a Ferrari, replica or not, its was done right or is in nice shape.. morons


Lol. You...mouth shut, fingers off of your keyboard before you make yourself look more stupid than you already did.

This is an ENTHUSIAST forum you doofus.....this is what people do here. They talk about things. Perhaps the Hello Kitty Forum is more your speed. Head on over there and discuss the finer points of stickers and glitter pencils.

[kyskater]

am i the only one that notices the side vents the replicas have 2 the real one has 3. also look at the distance on the wheel well to the door is much shorter on the datsun knockoff

[Echonova]

am i the only one that notices the side vents the replicas have 2 the real one has 3. also look at the distance on the wheel well to the door is much shorter on the datsun knockoff
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/krickykat_bucket/facepalmimplied.jpg


Review your history and post again.

[speedminded]

am i the only one that notices the side vents the replicas have 2 the real one has 3. also look at the distance on the wheel well to the door is much shorter on the datsun knockoffThe real ones have both...

250 GTO sex video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-5JNxVVkDA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/1962_Ferrari_250_GTO_34_2.jpg/800px-1962_Ferrari_250_GTO_34_2.jpg
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO

From the Ralph Lauren collection on display at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts. Photo taken in 2005.

[speedminded]

Ha! Street racing when it was...hell, I don't know what it was lol! Described as a "carefree time". GTO vs California Coupe on Mulholland Drive (California coastal hwy) on 8mm film. Nostalgic to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfItWwi2V8



*edit*
Another featuring three 250 GTO's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_jcC6OnIU

"Here's some random footage showing us having fun and the cars doing what they were intended to do, which is to cause problems for other people." lolol!

Well shit, end of that video tells me Ralph Lauren now owns one of the cars...the same one I posted a photo of in the last reply.

[okra1981]

Ha! Street racing when it was...hell, I don't know what it was lol! Described as a "carefree time". GTO vs California Coupe on Mulholland Drive (California coastal hwy) on 8mm film. Nostalgic to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfItWwi2V8



*edit*
Another featuring three 250 GTO's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_jcC6OnIU

"Here's some random footage showing us having fun and the cars doing what they were intended to do, which is to cause problems for other people." lolol!

Well shit, end of that video tells me Ralph Lauren now owns one of the cars...the same one I posted a photo of in the last reply.

Those videos are great, plus one.

[Echonova]

Videos are great, but in a way they piss me off. Why couldn't I have been born rich instead of so damn good looking? Ferrari GTO at 19yrs old? WTF?????

But at least they did run the hell out of them. Indeed using the car for what it was built for.

[On_Her_Face]

99% of the replicas i have seen they do not change the window frame to make it more realistic matter of facts i havent seen one yet, but there is another company making complete kits with fiber bodies just like the A/C Cobras they do the chassis and all the suspension components, but cant remember the name of the company, as you can see in the picture you post thats a nicelly don convertible but they just have a big fail in the wheel choice on the stamped steel knock off lookalike instead of aluminum real ones, but none the less superb i have seen the picture before.

Speaking of the A/C Cobra my Dad's friends (Bill and Dan Elliott) have the original molds for that car. They built one and threw a NASCAR motor in there. Not street-able.

[jfman]

Sad to say but Im not that much into that car... I would spend my money some other way.

[Elbow]

Speaking of the A/C Cobra my Dad's friends (Bill and Dan Elliott) have the original molds for that car. They built one and threw a NASCAR motor in there. Not street-able.

Well that's lame, why not?