my daily's gsr build. Budget 1.9 liter

[Starrfire]

Well, I just felt the itch for just a little more power out of my daily. It already has a gsr in it, hondata, I/h/e coupled to an Ls trans can be kinda linear and ho-hum. So I looked around and bought only the best deals I came across, as well as the best bang-for-the-buck parts. This isn't supposed to be a fast car, just something fun. I just really like to build engines, this is the 5th for myself alone. Time to break out all of the engine building toys soon because I don't lack much on parts. I expect it to do about 185-205 whp, and about 135-145 whtq. Kind of a broad window but its always a wild card until you get it on the dyno and make your first pull. I kind of expect fun and good gas mileage out of it since I get about 36-38 mpg averages right now.

First off I guess I will name off what I have so far and what is left to purchase. The engine is a b18c1
Bottom end(stock):
b18c1 block, bored to 81.5mm
Ls crankshaft, micropolished
Ls rods, have been resized for bolts
Arp rod bolts
Rs machine 81.5mm pr3 pistons
Balanced rotating assembly and soon to be blueprinted when I start
ARP head studs
Hot tanked:rolleyes:

cylinder head P72:
head has had ports cleaned up
supertech valves
skunk2 stage 2 tuner series cams
skunk2 tuner series dual valve springs
skunk2 titanium retainers
extended IM studs
Hondata IM gasket
AEBS IM
Azraceandmachine cam seal
head has been resurfaced and hot tanked

bolt ons:
CTR crank pulley
RMF style header
Exedy steel light weight flywheel and stage 1 clutch
b16 trans with Ls 5th installed
motor mount inserts with some solid mounts
Apexi WS2 exhaust
SRI
Obd1 h22a 345cc injectors, already modified an extra harness with the resistor box plugged in.
Omnipower test pipe(Alabama aka no emissions):taun:

Internals, all honda, almost every piece is replaced short of like the LMA's. I don't use cheap parts though. Most of the stuff isn't pictured yet, I'll get pics of it this weekend and download them.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001.jpg (%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

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http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003.jpg

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Comments and critisizim welcome. I'll get more pictures soon since so much is not pictured, and of the assembly process when I start that.

[Sammich]

i'd like to skeet in those cylinder walls...hope u get what u want man

[Starrfire]

Thanks, I don't lack much. Gonna start building it in about a week.

[Starrfire]

Pic updates, I haven't been building it too quickly. I've had better things to do like work late lol. Here are some pics thus far.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-1.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-1.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild010.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild010.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild009.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild009.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild004-1.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild004-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild005-1.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild005-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild014.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild014.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild016.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild016.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild017.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild017.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild018.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild018.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild019.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild019.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

[slostang]

nothing like building an engine in the living room :goodjob:

[Starrfire]

nothing like building an engine in the living room :goodjob:

Nah that's my game room, air hockey table and all the game systems and shit. But there hasn't been a single drop of oil on the floor yet.

And to comment on the oil squirters, FUCK those damn pain in the ass oil squirters. It took me 3 hours worth of bending and test fitting to get them to not hit the damn crank or pistons. They look like a snake now lol

[dallasb84]

good job man.. i been watchin this thread for a minute, nice head work btw

[SX-MAN]

why would you clean everything up and then put that crusty belt cover on....

clean it...if your going to doit, doit right the first time.....then you will def be satisfied

but everything looks good.... hope it all works and stays together....

[Starrfire]

That crusty belt cover goes behind a clean belt cover, and only the edges are seen, which are clean BTW lol. But I've been blue printing the engine the entire way. Every clearance and torque is spec'd and I am very confident it will last a long time since this isn't my 6th build for myself. But look later today for more pics. Thanks for the comments.

[Starrfire]

Well, got as far as I can until Saturday for the most part. I found out that I was missing 2 of the dowels that go to the cam caps when mocking up the head. On Intake cam cap 5 there are no dowels:(. So I'm going to pick some up and buy small random crap from my tuner. Then commence with putting it in time and adjusting the valves and putting the rest of the pieces on. Well here are a couple of unfinished pics, but close. Just need to install the cams, and adjust timing and the valve lash. BTW the black plastic looks much worse when you take a picture of it. It looks pretty good in person.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-2.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-1.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

[Starrfire]

Ok, almost finished, didn't want to make it any heavier for now lol.

My brand spanking new Skunk2 cams going in
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-2.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

Just put it in time and adjusted the valves
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-3.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-3.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

Just bolting on little stuff and putting it in now. I'll post up dyno results as soon as I get them.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-2.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild004-2.jpg (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild004-2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

[TheSnail]

Yeah the edges of those camshaft lobes are sharp as shit. I see you cut the shit out of your hand installing them.

jk ;), Looks great though, keep up the good work! :goodjob:

[lsvtec20]

Nice build thus far, hope it turns out the way you want it

[Starrfire]

+ reps given to all encouragement. Thanks guys, I just have to find the time to get it in now. should be a day of fun lol. I've got a very special transmission for it. An s4c, with an Ls 5th gear and a factory LSD installed. should make for good times.

[silverDA]

gangster build/

[Starrfire]

As soon as I get this one in, I take the h2b out of my other car and start on it. It already has a few mods, most of them will be going back on it. Looking to make great power on it. It already makes 215 on a real low reading dyno and traps 108 on street tires. I'll start pulling it out this weekend and show some pics.

[.:Stirfry:.]

awesome shit yo:. i love motor build threads::..
reps ..

[justa paintr]

why would you clean everything up and then put that crusty belt cover on....

clean it...if your going to doit, doit right the first time.....then you will def be satisfied

but everything looks good.... hope it all works and stays together....


this guy is just too cool....it should be pretty sweet once installed...i still have the 2.8 liter if you still wanted to trade man

[toonz]

Nice setup simple and clean

[Starrfire]

^^^lol. reps given to all. Just so unmotivated to go pull my other cars engine out, but might as well while the getting is good.

[BABY J]

subscribed

[Da_unknown]

nice build

[tinkolby_25]

na is for fags

[Starrfire]

Tinkolby 25 loves fags


fixed

[Starrfire]

Well, almost ready to finish this thing, only things left to do is put the thing in basically. I have a few more pics while it is still in pieces.
I have my clutch,flywheel,trans and my walbro 190 now.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-4.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-5.jpg
My transmission is very special, and overly expensive, more expensive than my R trans i bought. I bought it from Silversol a ways back for $600, found out the diff was grenaded, got some money back from him, had the dif replaced as well as an Ls 5th gear installed;$700. Decided I wasn't going to use my LSD b16 trans so I took the lsd out and put it in the trans you see,got it shimmed out and new diff bearings, also modifying case for the factory lsd. $125.(no labor since I traded the diff and case and guts of the 3rd gear grinding trans for that. So I have $1500 in a b16 trans, a real nice b16 trans:cry:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild004-4.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild005-2.jpg
My engine strangely enough was built almost solely from parts purchased on import atlanta. So might as well put the free sticker on there lol.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-4.jpg

[Starrfire]

Also, I'd like to thank all the people that I bought parts from. I can't remember everyone's name but if you sold it to me you know lol.

[goi_ek]

nice, keep up the good work

[Starrfire]

+reps

[esi_atlanta]

nice work man .... +1

[Starrfire]

^^^+1 back at ya

[marcos713]

great work man! cant wait til i do my build! reps!
lets us knw how it does on the dyno :goodjob:

[dirtragz]

stuff like this only motovates me more , good luck cant wait to see some numbers, subscribed and reped

[Starrfire]

+reps to all, I'm gonna take some install pics, and pics of the car. I also have a few other things to do to the car since a few meets are coming up. I've made arrangements to have my car dyno'd in about 3 weekends so I'll see how this works out.

[Just_CHill]

Very very nice build man. Love to see what numbers you are going to pull with this beast. Makes me miss my car. :cry:

[gerardojdm]

Nice and simple. I alway wanted to do the same set-up before i went boost. Cant wait till i see the dyno results . reps:goodjob:

[BABY J]

Don't forget security!!!!!!

[firby911]

Looks good,reps to you:goodjob:

[Starrfire]

Reps given.


Don't forget security!!!!!!

I don't even live in the State of Georgia. And only mustang guys around here. But security is good enough on it right now. I mean after all this is my daily, it doesn't sit anywhere and I work in a federally fenced in airport so no one in or out without a code. Maybe a small enhancement to it... though that is for me to know. But thanks:goodjob:

[SRCRX]

GOOD THREAD!

[GaGen2Teg]

nice build!!!

[Grimm Reeper]

Looking nice :goodjob:

[FasTech]

Nice build you go going. I'll keep a check on this from time to time. Oh by the way, who did your trans? I haven't decided what trans I want to run in my integra but a B16 trans with LS 5th would be kick ass.

[IntegraXTR]

badass build, I love seeing stroked gsr's using the LS rotating assembly, best bang for the buck in my opinion. Keep up the good work man! btw, did you mill the head down for more comp?

[Starrfire]

Nice build you go going. I'll keep a check on this from time to time. Oh by the way, who did your trans? I haven't decided what trans I want to run in my integra but a B16 trans with LS 5th would be kick ass.

Jim Helbing @ Motorvations Motorsports. Shimmed out and everything.


btw, did you mill the head down for more comp?

No, I wasn't trying to make a lot of power, just a little more than I had. This wasn't an all out build, just something a little funner for my daily.

[Starrfire]

Oh and + reps to all.

[MugenCrx]

gl with build i should have but my da i rebuilt the non special LS but it was fun and it felt great to crank it up lol GL

[MugenCrx]

rep givin to u

[southside]

How much was the ctr pulley from honda?

[ThEGrNGoBLiN]

i love b18c1s =)

[patrick4588]

nice build, looks like you took your time and did it right. i want to see the dyno numbers

[tinkolby_25]

How much was the ctr pulley from honda?

like 70 bucks shipped on ebay

[Starrfire]

nice build, looks like you took your time and did it right. i want to see the dyno numbers


me too lol

[civicturbo10]

great build thread... post up dyno # when your complete

[Starrfire]

I will, If my Kiddracing header will ever get here lol.

[dallasb84]

just curious do you got this in the car yet???? me and you started building round the same time. :)

[Just_lookin]

great job man cant wait to see it all done and in the car w/ some dyno #'s

[southside]

i love b18c1s =)I bet you do

[tinkolby_25]

just curious do you got this in the car yet???? me and you started building round the same time. :)

we be putting it in this weekend yo

[Starrfire]

^^^maybe, depending on whether I can get the header before this weekend. If not then it will have to be on a later date.

[JDMGRNAV6]

sick, nice build gl with all of it.

cant wait to see numbers

[Starrfire]

Ok, hoping to put the thing in and tune it this week. My Vteckidd header was kinda on back order of sorts and will be here the 20th. That is all I lack for my little "knockoff" mobile. Still even for a cheap project of mine it still is kinda nice. Hoping for 200/140. But would be happy with 190/135.

[tmracing83]

Looks great man! Ur so lucky. I can't wait till I'm doing this inside my house. Looks great I'm waiting for numbers. I'm hoping I get to see u make 200

[Starrfire]

Yeah I plan to have install pics and pics of the header when it comes in. I hope the weather is nice this week.

[dirtragz]

minesup for sale http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=38416617#post38416617
shi+....

[Starrfire]

Alright, I finally got my header today. Took a while but you can't beat it for free. Gonna put it in Friday and get it tuned Saturday morning. Wish me luck :crazy:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild001-5.jpg

[Starrfire]

Just wanted to post up some pics of what it looks like mocked up.
OOh pretty lol.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild002-6.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/enginebuild003-5.jpg

:cheers:

[TheChosenOne]

Yummy! Sick build. I hope everything turns out great for you. Building something, and then having it pay off in the end makes all the hard work worth while. :D Reps

[Dirka Dirka]

ehh...its alright. lol. Looks good man, if i didnt have my lil girl this weekend id go with you. Lets get drunk on friday after we put it in!! :)

[DustnU]

Nice build bro good luck. Header looks sick FREE is GREAT!!!!!!!!!

[Starrfire]

Reps given. Yeah tucker I like your idea.

[Jdm94Coupe]

hey starrfire...... the real question is...... whats that on the engine stand now!!

[Starrfire]

Another :ninja: ...GSR...

[Starrfire]

Well current progress is that I got home and took the engine out, took about 3 hours to have the axles out and the engine sitting where it needs to be with the intake manifold off and on the other engine. Just gotta get the rest of the shit on the other one tomorrow and get it in.
gotta pick up my new reman axles since the boots are starting to F up on the current ones. So close with so little left to do. No turning back now...I hope.

[dirtragz]

Well current progress is that I got home and took the engine out, took about 3 hours to have the axles out and the engine sitting where it needs to be with the intake manifold off and on the other engine. Just gotta get the rest of the shit on the other one tomorrow and get it in.
gotta pick up my new reman axles since the boots are starting to F up on the current ones. So close with so little left to do. No turning back now...I hope.
shoot youll be done in no time , gl cant wait to see it

[Sammich]

I'M CURIOUS..ARE YOU BUILDING THIS IN YOUR BEDROOM? LOL

[Starrfire]

I'M CURIOUS..ARE YOU BUILDING THIS IN YOUR BEDROOM? LOL
right next to it lol.

[Teg Boy]

very nice build man

[Starrfire]

Well I got it in, and I must say, I ran into a whole shit ton of problems.
Just seemed that everything was running against me, first off getting it in there was no problem. But later I noticed that that the 40/40 prop valve my friend put on was cross threaded on 2 of 6 of the fittings. Well with the engine in, it is really hard to change these anyways. So I tried putting the stock one back on to no effect, the lines themselves. I thankfully managed to get the one for the passenger rear threaded back in. Thankfully. But the driver front wouldn't do so, it was to F'd up.So I took it off my other hatch and put it in. So basically I spent 2 hours of my time fixing complete bull shit. It crunk up flawlessly and ran great considering it was un tuned. I drove it 50 miles and changed the oil.

Next morning I went down the road and about 2 miles away from my house my driver side axle popped out from the half shaft. I got my friend to bring me some tools and I used my slide sledge to put it back in. Then I drove the 1.5 hours to get it tuned. I got there on time still, but the dyno operator was late, and my tuner was late also.
So I got shafted somehow since the people who had later appointments got to go ahead of me, and my friend had to be home earlier, so I had to drive back home and go back down there and be there at 6:30. Not to mentioned I hadn't slept in about 36 hours.

so it mad about what I expected it to. I was thinking truthfully at 185/125, but it made a little less. It sure does sound good. I had only actuated vtec once during driving it, and it bogged like a bastard. The cam opened up too early for my current map which with such large secondaries slowed air velocity. here are some pics at the dyno. The car is dirty because I haven't washed it due to all the rain.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/tuningday001.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/tuningday003.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/tuningday004.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/tuningday006.jpg

[Revmaynard]

Awesome! Sucks to hear about the problems you had with it! Where did you take it to get tuned? That's poor service if you ask me.

[Starrfire]

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh30/Starrfire86/tuningday007.jpg

179/123

Well here's the tune sheet. look at the mega dip on vtec engagement to start with. As you can see I picked up like 40+ wheel in the mid range. It is still a conservative tune on a known low reading dyno(just a little so) It's still 21 wheel over the other gsr and

oh and it was Walker dyno.

[BABY J]

No offense... but your graph needs work. It appears that you either have a terrible harmonic in the cams (unlikely) or that your vtec crossover point is in the wrong spot (more likely). Your tuner needs to move your engagement point. Crossover for your build needs to be much higher than where it is based on this graph. Where is it set to right now?

[Starrfire]

The blue is after tuning, the red is before. vtec engages at like 5800 I believe. The red graph is what I started out with, that is not how it is now. The air fuel is pretty much perfect across the board, compared to the starting point.

[BABY J]

WHEW! I was gonna say. That dyno ready about 3 - 4hp lower tha MSPi.

[civicturbo10]

looks great!

[DustnU]

Nice numbers and car look good. That header sets that engine bay off. Gl with the rest hope you have no more issues!!

[Just_CHill]

Nice man. Congratz on the build. I feel you on the problems. I had a good couple of problems right after I finished my build. I was too much of a hurry though so it was bound to happen to me. Lol.

[Starrfire]

Yeah I've got a few bugs I need to sort out this weekend with it. But overall I'm happy with it.