Press Charges?

[SL33P3R]

Well, I was at this club the other night, Yes Im underage. Im the bathroom this bouncer said he would sell me a 21+ band and 3 VIP bands, so i did. Im up in VIP and one of the girls im with takes a sip of my drink then they come and tell both of us we have to leave. on the way to the stairs from VIP I said "I understand your on a powertrip" then the motherfucker pushes me down the stairs. We get to the bottom and im looking around for him and he pushes me in my face (pussy), does it one more time and then I get swooped up by this big ass dude, thrown out this door onto a dumpster with my neck on the edge. Im now handcuffed by the bouncer and i cant breathe with my neck on the edge. So i say "I cant breathe homie" and he punches me in my face 3 times. HAHA, so now I have a black eye and some other various things. Cops talk to me and say if im pressing charges they are gonna take me to jail, and if im not they will let me go home, so I went home.

What would YOU do?

[Dr.G35]

jail. with the money that you would win from that settlement you could buy a club.lol.

[americanctm]

Yo mayne you can meet a lot of "homies" in jail

[BanginJimmy]

you could admit to underage consumption, lose your license, pay fines, and have a record, or you can let a black eye heal. Sounds like a very cheap way to learn a lesson.

[DirtyMechanic]

you could admit to underage consumption, lose your license, pay fines, and have a record, or you can let a black eye heal. Sounds like a very cheap way to learn a lesson.umm why would he lose his license if he wasnt driving?:thinking:

[AnthonyF]

damn bro! Sorry to hear about your misfortune! :( I hope you get what you want bro!

-Ant.

[SL33P3R]

I understand getting kicked out 100%, I was not arguing about that at all. I know I was in the wrong. But punching me in my face while I was handcuffed on my stomach had me wondering..

[Frög]

Wow.. Was this at Opera?

I had a similar situation.. The cops there are corrupt.. The bouncers get you arrested for anything... They are power tripping losers..

The club hires these off duty officers, and since they pay them, the club/bouncers are above the law and tell the cops what to do..

I can't believe this is legal..

[Bajjani]

I understand getting kicked out 100%, I was not arguing about that at all. I know I was in the wrong. But punching me in my face while I was handcuffed on my stomach had me wondering..


Don't put yourself in a situation where if your kicked and punched around you have to pick between jail/charges?

[Njobe]

get a good ass lawyer and press charges. sue them for what they have and don't have. dont forget about me and give me some money too lol

[ranger250x]

go confront him about it(sober of cousre). Be polite and if he gets all physical, press charges after he deals you another black eye. Mind sharing where this happened?

[SL33P3R]

Wow.. Was this at Opera?

I had a similar situation.. The cops there are corrupt.. The bouncers get you arrested for anything... They are power tripping losers..

The club hires these off duty officers, and since they pay them, they are above the law and tell the cops what to do..

I can't believe this is legal..


Yes it was at Opera. And I assure you none of the bouncers there that night are off duty officers. TRUST ME. My dad is talking to his attorney, maybe I can own it haha

[Frög]

Yes it was at Opera. And I assure you none of the bouncers there that night are off duty officers. TRUST ME. My dad is talking to his attorney, maybe I can own it haha

I know they aren't off duty officers.. There are bouncers, and the club pays for police officers to sit outside..

Those Police officers are corrupt and paid by the club and follow everything the club tells them to do..

[SL33P3R]

I know they aren't off duty officers.. There are bouncers, and the club pays for police officers to sit outside..


Yeah, The police officer came over after all this happen and gave me a pep talk. Then blackmailed me with the if your pressing charges/jail and if your not/go home

[SL33P3R]

I know they aren't off duty officers.. There are bouncers, and the club pays for police officers to sit outside..

Those Police officers are corrupt and paid by the club and follow everything the club tells them to do..

A law is a law. I dont care what the "bouncers" say. I just hate the feeling of not being able to defend myself. haha, getting punched in the face while handcuffed on your stomach, its almost impossible

[Frög]

Yeah, The police officer came over after all this happen and gave me a pep talk. Then blackmailed me with the if your pressing charges/jail and if your not/go home

Yeah, they are protecting their employer.. Its so fucked up..

To protect and serve.. Seriously, what do we expect? We give one of the most powerful jobs to the dumbest lowlifes (cops, which are high-school dropouts)


Its funny how I knew right away which club you were talking about..

[UpSideDownDesi]

should have pressed charges, if you used your valid ID to get in, but somehow ended up with 21+ vip passes and drinks. Not your fault, clubs fault to improperly check ID, allowing a underage to drink then using unnecessary force when you were not resisting. Yea the club got money, but if you have good enough lawyer the club will mostly likely try to settle it. All cops are hired by the clubs, and are pretty much working for them if they are standing infront of it. Public means shit to them then.

Edit saw it was opera. Didn't have a bad experience there, but they everyone from owner to bouncers aren't afraid to show power.

[Njobe]

^^ they already said Club Opera

[JoeCoolinATL]

Yeah, they are protecting their employer.. Its so fucked up..

To protect and serve.. Seriously, what do we expect? We give one of the most powerful jobs to the dumbest lowlifes (cops, which are high-school dropouts)


Its funny how I knew right away which club you were talking about..



:gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay:

i can now only assume that
you're an idiot
you're young
you think you know everything
fuckin kids these days.

[Z0_o6]

so because you went to a club underage, and got kicked out with a black eye you're gonna sue? i can't say i have much pity for you, even though it was excessive. you weren't supposed to be there in the first place. period. take it as a lesson learned and move on.

[JoeCoolinATL]

it does sound like the threadstarter just needs to wait till he's old enough to get into clubs tho.

[Frög]

:gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay:

i can now only assume that
you're an idiot
you're young
you think you know everything
fuckin kids these days.

It was a overly exaggerated generalization.. I agree, I have dealt with many decent and moral Police officers.. But the amount of corrupt ones is astronomical..

I do know one thing: I have an education, unlike most Police Officers.. Right?

[SL33P3R]

The club is 18+ since it was a concert people. I used my ID to get in, Once Im in, its all on them. Right?

[Njobe]

The club is 18+ since it was a concert people. I used my ID to get in, Once Im in, its all on them. Right?

it was illegal for the bouncer to sell you a 21+ band so yea its more on him than the club... you may just end up suing him if you go through with it

[JoeCoolinATL]

The club is 18+ since it was a concert people. I used my ID to get in, Once Im in, its all on them. Right?

nope.

[Terror]

What the fuck?

I would definitely press charges.... thats total bullshit.

They gave you an ultimatum to press charges? im glad you made the choice you did... go home AND THEN press charges.

Fuck that place man.

[UpSideDownDesi]

You buying bands and drinks isn't legal either.

[Frög]

What the fuck?

I would definitely press charges.... thats total bullshit.

They gave you an ultimatum to press charges? im glad you made the choice you did... go home AND THEN press charges.

Fuck that place man.

x2!

[SL33P3R]

nope.


You must be a cop? LOL Or are you the one that beat my ass? haha

[Njobe]

You must be a cop? LOL Or are you the one that beat my ass? haha
lolz

[Njobe]

You buying bands and drinks isn't legal either.

still though its on the bouncer for supplying the band... that's almost the same as if he gave him the alcohol... the story of that mom who bought alcohol for the party and one of them (or more?) ended up dying and now shes doing time... same thing with the bouncer he was the supplier

[Z0_o6]

so on that principle, its only illegal to sell drugs, but not to buy/possess them? lol. i love all the wannabe "i'm never in the wrong" lawyers we have here. responsibility for your actions really shouldn't be viewed as an option people. man up and fucking get used to the whole cause and effect thing.

[Njobe]

so on that principle, its only illegal to sell drugs, but not to buy/possess them? lol. i love all the wannabe "i'm never in the wrong" lawyers we have here. responsibility for your actions really shouldn't be viewed as an option people. man up and fucking get used to the whole cause and effect thing.

there is no age you can be to own drugs for it to be legal... you can buy/drink alcohol when you're 21... big difference

[Z0_o6]

there is no age you can be to own drugs for it to be legal... you can buy/drink alcohol when you're 21... big difference

oh ok. so yeah you're right, what was i thinking, underage drinking is legal. my bad. against the law is against the law dude.

[UpSideDownDesi]

still though its on the bouncer for supplying the band... that's almost the same as if he gave him the alcohol... the story of that mom who bought alcohol for the party and one of them (or more?) ended up dying and now shes doing time... same thing with the bouncer he was the supplier

Opera's answer in court, "Opera has released the bouncer from his duties, he no longer works for Opera. His actions were of his own not Opera."

Who is he to chase now? Bouncer probably made $50 a night and has no job now. Not worth chasing him. Opera walks, in return charges are filed against OP for underage drinking and him admitting to it in court.

[Z0_o6]

Opera's answer in court, "Opera has released the bouncer from his duties, he no longer works for Opera. His actions were of his own not Opera."

Who is he to chase now? bouncer probably made $50 a night and has no job now. Not worth chasing him? Opera walks, in return charges are filed against OP for underage drinking and him admitting to it in court.

and we have a winner. nice to see some common sense here.

[Njobe]

Opera's answer in court, "Opera has released the bouncer from his duties, he no longer works for Opera. His actions were of his own not Opera."

Who is he to chase now? Bouncer probably made $50 a night and has no job now. Not worth chasing him. Opera walks, in return charges are filed against OP for underage drinking and him admitting to it in court.

truf... like i said earlier he would probably end up suing the bouncer and getting that $50 lol

[SL33P3R]

That was my question guys. I know for sure Im in the wrong for drinking. I can accept that. I was just wondering, if its worth trying to pursue. Thats all. I dont need people bickering at each other in here about whats legal and illegal

[UpSideDownDesi]

It's too late to do anything, let your eye heal and spot trouble before get in it next time. I had my fair share of 18+ fun, did it at clubs i knew bouncers or owners at or pre-gamed like rockstar and made sure i came back to do the business like ___star ;). Beer time, see y'all in few.

[BobbyFresco]

Chalk it up to an asswhooping and call it a day.

[SL33P3R]

It's too late to do anything, let your eye heal and spot trouble before get in it next time. I had my fair share of 18+ fun, did it at clubs i knew bouncers or owners at or pre-gamed like rockstar and made sure i came back to do the business like ___star ;). Beer time, see y'all in few.


No more ignoring PMs boss!

[JoeCoolinATL]

You must be a cop? LOL Or are you the one that beat my ass? haha

;)



Opera's answer in court, "Opera has released the bouncer from his duties, he no longer works for Opera. His actions were of his own not Opera."

Who is he to chase now? Bouncer probably made $50 a night and has no job now. Not worth chasing him. Opera walks, in return charges are filed against OP for underage drinking and him admitting to it in court.


THIS.

[SL33P3R]

;)





THIS.


If you are, Id like a rematch:D

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.

DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.

BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.

LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.

This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?

YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?

For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.

Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?


Opera's answer in court, "Opera has released the bouncer from his duties, he no longer works for Opera. His actions were of his own not Opera."

Who is he to chase now? Bouncer probably made $50 a night and has no job now. Not worth chasing him. Opera walks, in return charges are filed against OP for underage drinking and him admitting to it in court.B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S

IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?

IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????

I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....

GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.

I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.

OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.

[Njobe]

If you are, Id like a rematch:D

lol....beat down #2?

[JoeCoolinATL]

If you are, Id like a rematch:D


:lmfao:

[SL33P3R]

lol....beat down #2?


Its easy beating someones all when they are handcuffed. Ever faught a guy with no arms? Its pretty easy

[BobbyFresco]

;)


So are you claiming to be a LEO?

[Njobe]

Its easy beating someones all when they are handcuffed. Ever faught a guy with no arms? Its pretty easy

sure haven't but chuck norris handcuffed or not would of beat the bouncers ass lol... had to

[DirtyMechanic]

Wasnt being in handcuffs false imprisonment?

[JoeCoolinATL]

So are you claiming to be a LEO?
Strictly Civ.

[BobbyFresco]

Strictly Civ.


:)

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haven't received any echo rep lately lol

Asking for it ain't the way to get it, homie.
:lmfao:

and to Joe, I see you're an OG that hasn't posted in awhile...

What brings you back?

[JoeCoolinATL]

:)
lol i cant imagine anyone answering any other way on a public board

[Njobe]

Asking for it ain't the way to get it, homie.
:lmfao:

and to Joe, I see you're an OG that hasn't posted in awhile...

What brings you back?
echo likes to just hand it out :D

[JoeCoolinATL]

Asking for it ain't the way to get it, homie.
:lmfao:

and to Joe, I see you're an OG that hasn't posted in awhile...

What brings you back?

been doing a lot of work around the past few yrs.

[BobbyFresco]

lol i cant imagine anyone answering any other way on a public board

Just askin'
I did my research, Mr W.

[ueyedgr8tness]

I am with izzy just because i have seen plenty of these cases out in cali its like a everynight thing up there.And regaurdless if they let the bouncer go or not it still is on the employer because at the time of the accident he was employed by them.Call it what u will but with a great lawyer and if you got deep pockets u can make a nice case and change the name of the club to your own:)

[SL33P3R]

I am with izzy just because i have seen plenty of these cases out in cali its like a everynight thing up there.And regaurdless if they let the bouncer go or not it still is on the employer because at the time of the accident he was employed by them.Call it what u will but with a great lawyer and if you got deep pockets u can make a nice case and change the name of the club to your own:)


Exactly what I was thinking

[Njobe]

Exactly what I was thinking

soooo you got deep pockets? lol

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I'm surprised all the dudes who were talking big and "knew" what they were talking about have not made a response yet.

HMMMMMMMM......I'LL WAIT.

[Njobe]

I'm surprised all the dudes who were talking big and "knew" what they were talking about have not made a response yet.

HMMMMMMMM......I'LL WAIT.

hmmm probably went to sleep? i still stand by what i said

[man]

so on that principle, its only illegal to sell drugs, but not to buy/possess them?

Selling - felony
possession - misdemeanor

not legal, but still...

And in this case

MIP vs. Selling to minors, and assault/battery. Come on man.

[RL...]

sounds like total BS but there is nothing else but pressing charges wouldn't have helped...although I used to club hop all the time when I was underage and never had a problem...wow

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

hmmm probably went to sleep? i still stand by what i saidOdakle tebe na IA?

[SL33P3R]

soooo you got deep pockets? lol

Not really. But Ill split my earnings with my parents:D

[Njobe]

Not really. But Ill split my earnings with my parents:D
lol hahahahahaa truf

[Njobe]

Odakle tebe na IA?

ma nemam nista pametnije radit pa doso ovdje malo drkat hahahaha

[ueyedgr8tness]

Selling - felony
possession - misdemeanor

not legal, but still...

And in this case

MIP vs. Selling to minors, and assault/battery. Come on man.



:yes:

[umairejaz]

I'm surprised all the dudes who were talking big and "knew" what they were talking about have not made a response yet.

HMMMMMMMM......I'LL WAIT.


You laid it down pretty hard. Props.

[Frög]

If you go through with this.. lmk, I will testify for the injustice I have witnessed there..

I know of friends that will too..

[SL33P3R]

Im going to check with my dad tomorrow and see what his attorney has said, and what he thinks we can do. I just want a few things :)

[TIGERJC]

I wonder what is being left out, I know bouncers love to fuck someone up whenever the chance presents itself. But most of the time its the clubgoer that either says something or does something to provoke the bouncer's action. Gl on the lawsuit, I hope you atleast got checked out by a doctor as soon as this happened so its documented

[TSiFTW]

LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.

DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.

BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.

LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.

This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?

YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?

For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.

Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?

B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S

IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?

IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????

I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....

GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.

I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.

OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.


All in all bouncer sold it to him but did not force him to use it. He is still wrong. He drank, he got shit kicked out of him. Tough lesson.

[SL33P3R]

I can honestly say, I did NOT lay a hand on anyone, or even try to resist, ofcourse I was trying to get up while I was getting punched in the face, handcuffed. But I was unsuccesful

[Njobe]

I can honestly say, I did NOT lay a hand on anyone, or even try to resist, ofcourse I was trying to get up while I was getting punched in the face, handcuffed. But I was unsuccesful

lol at least you tried :D

[DirtyMechanic]

I can honestly say, I did NOT lay a hand on anyone, or even try to resist, ofcourse I was trying to get up while I was getting punched in the face, handcuffed. But I was unsuccesfulisnt the hanfcuffs unlawful imprisonment though weather you were inside or not?

[SL33P3R]

I didnt even know bouncers could have handcuffs?

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

You laid it down pretty hard. Props.
Thanks.

All in all bouncer sold it to him but did not force him to use it. He is still wrong. He drank, he got shit kicked out of him. Tough lesson.
Like I said.............before, and what would've happened if OP died on the home because of the intoxication?

NONE of this would've happened if the bouncer had not approached him, RIGHT?

SURE THE OP IS TO BLAME FOR ACCEPTING IT BUT THE BOUNCER IS 10X MORE IN THE WRONG FOR PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT HE GETS PAID FOR NOT TO TOLERATE............WHICH IS?????? YOU GUESSED IT!!! UNDERAGE DRINKING !!!

Just like a cop...........If every cop let every speeder speed, every aggressive driver, drive aggressive, every bank robber to rob, every criminal to commit crimes....WHERE DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH THAT MIND SET IN 10 YEARS?

PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS BEFORE YOU REPLY, PLEASE. K, THX, BYE.

[SL33P3R]

IZZY, marry me













































no homo

[TIGERJC]

U better have witnesses that were sober at the time of the incident. The club has bouncers and off duty cops working security to back up the club in court

[SL33P3R]

I have one 100% sober friend, and one 95% sober friend. The cameras are 100% sober ;)

[TIGERJC]

You're not going to have their tapes, so I hope you have your own tape

[TSiFTW]

Thanks.

Like I said.............before, and what would've happened if OP died on the home because of the intoxication?

NONE of this would've happened if the bouncer had not approached him, RIGHT?

SURE THE OP IS TO BLAME FOR ACCEPTING IT BUT THE BOUNCER IS 10X MORE IN THE WRONG FOR PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT HE GETS PAID FOR NOT TO TOLERATE............WHICH IS?????? YOU GUESSED IT!!! UNDERAGE DRINKING !!!

Just like a cop...........If every cop let every speeder speed, every aggressive driver, drive aggressive, every bank robber to rob, every criminal to commit crimes....WHERE DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH THAT MIND SET IN 10 YEARS?

PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS BEFORE YOU REPLY, PLEASE. K, THX, BYE.

Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.

[Frög]

You're not going to have their tapes, so I hope you have your own tape

x2

[TSiFTW]

Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.

Why do you think when the police raid a club they arrest the ones with the fake IDs, cause it is the kids fault. You can try to sue if you want but you will still probably end up with charges pressed on you and the club will walk. You can call you BS all you want. Let him waste his time and money and then his tough lesson learned will then be an expensive time consuming tough lesson learned.

[DirtyMechanic]

Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.you do realize drinking has nothing to do with teh assult right? thats like you coming over me pushing you outside on the ground getting you in handcuffs then beating the shit out of you. what are you going to say.. wrong place wrong time? or better have learn my lesson and not have come over?

[TSiFTW]

you do realize drinking has nothing to do with teh assult right? thats like you coming over me pushing you outside on the ground getting you in handcuffs then beating the shit out of you. what are you going to say.. wrong place wrong time? or better have learn my lesson and not have come over?

He missed his chance at that one. He could have pressed charges at the time. It is now his word and a few friends that they will say is intoxicated versus the cops, club owners, and bouncers.

[TSiFTW]

you do realize drinking has nothing to do with teh assult right? thats like you coming over me pushing you outside on the ground getting you in handcuffs then beating the shit out of you. what are you going to say.. wrong place wrong time? or better have learn my lesson and not have come over?

It has everything to do with it. If you put yourself in bad situations bad things will most likely happen. Like I said, lesson learned.

[TSiFTW]

It has everything to do with it. If you put yourself in bad situations bad things will most likely happen. Like I said, lesson learned.

If he wouldn't have bought the 21+ pass, this wouldn't have happened.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! WHO THE FUCK PISSED IN YOUR FUCKING CEREAL, CHUMP?

If you fucking PAY a motherfucker to do his fucking job right and he fucks up, do you fucking blame the other guy or the motherfucker that you're paying? Answer me that shit.

This is the same fucking shit Akon got involved in......underage girl get's in the club, gets on the stage, Akon dry humps her, video gets out, and he's blamed for it?? LOL.

DUDE CAME TO AN 21+ EVENT........HE'S GOTTA MIND SET THAT EVERYONE IN THE CLUB IS OVER THE FUCKING AGE OF 21.......AND THEN IN THE END, THE GIRL WAS 13 YR OLD.......DO YOU BLAME HIM FOR NOT KNOWING....OR DO YOU BLAME THE BOUNCER FOR LETTING IN THE UNDERAGE CHICK TO AN EVENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 21+? HMMM.......YOU TELL ME GENIUS.


YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE ARGUMENT....YOU'RE LOOKING TO FAR INTO THE ARGUMENT, IT WAS HIS FAULT, HE BOUGHT IT, HE CHOSE TO DRINK, BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA.......

LIKE I SAID........WHAT IF HIS SOLE PURPOSE WAS THERE TO JUST CHILL AND NOT DRINK.....AND THE BOUNCER FORCED HIM TO BUY THEM OR HE WOULD KICK HIM OUT THE CLUB?

OR WHAT IF HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO BUY THEM?

AND THEN IN THE END......HE GOT "CAUGHT" WITH THE BAND.......WELL HOW IN THE FUCK DID HE GET THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE? SURELY NOT BY SHOWING HIS I.D. BECAUSE IT CLEARLY SHOWS HE IS NOT OF AGE TO RECEIVE ONE. RIGHT...?? RIGHT.

AND WTF IS THERE TO MAN UP ABOUT THE SITUATION? HE GOT BEAT UP BY A HIGHER POWER WHO TOOK IT TO A LEVEL THAT WAS NOT NEEDED FOR. DUDE WAS HANDCUFFED......THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THEM.......WHAT COULD'VE HE POSSIBLY DONE TO THEM? STAB THEM WITH HIS HANDS BEHIND THE BACK?

YOU WITH ARMS VS. DUDE WITH NO ARMS.........WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN IN A BOXING MATCH?


I NEED TO GO FOR A FUCKING LAWYER.

[SL33P3R]

Why do you think when the police raid a club they arrest the ones with the fake IDs, cause it is the kids fault. You can try to sue if you want but you will still probably end up with charges pressed on you and the club will walk. You can call you BS all you want. Let him waste his time and money and then his tough lesson learned will then be an expensive time consuming tough lesson learned.


Ok, Your points is irrelevent. I DID NOT have a fake ID. The cop was actually asking me for it when I was talking to him after. I used my LEGIT ID to get in, and I used NO ID to get the wrist band. Why do you think the bouncers have extra 21+ bands IN THEIR POCKET? Use your head. I know I drank underage, But I didnt use the ID to get one, He offered me one in the bathroom.

Continue

[SL33P3R]

If he wouldn't have bought the 21+ pass, this wouldn't have happened.

Bullshit. Read the fucking first post. A legit 21 year old letting an underage person drink is still going to get in trouble. Your an idiot

[SL33P3R]

He missed his chance at that one. He could have pressed charges at the time. It is now his word and a few friends that they will say is intoxicated versus the cops, club owners, and bouncers.


No. I actually did the SMART thing, so I didnt go to jail. I went home and got my girl to take pictures of me, I have proof. And witnesses. Stop trying to get all involved, youve got the story all kinds of fucked up buddy

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.OH OK.....NOW IT'S HIS CHOICE........

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING...I SEE THAT YOU'RE 30.....WISE....EH? MAYBE NOT SO MUCH BUT LET ME TALK TO YOU FOR A SECOND....

O.P WALKS UP TO YOU AND ASKS YOU IF YOU CAN BUY HIM SO BEER AT THE GAS STATION....YOU DO, COME BACK, GIVE IT TO ME, COPS SEES IT, AND ARRESTS YOU FOR PROVING ALCOHOL TO A MINOR....CORRECT?

HMMMM.....HOW THE FUCK DOES A 18 YR OLD GET ALCOHOL AT OPERA IF HE WALKED IN WITH NO 21+ BAND? ?!!??!?!?!? OHHHH......AN EMPLOYEE BROKE THE RULES AND "HOOKED HIM UP".....HMMMMM.......OH THAT'S JUST GREAT.

CASE CLOSED, I WIN.

[SL33P3R]

I didnt get "Caught" with the 21+ band. That wasnt the reason I got kicked out. The reason I got kicked out is the girl I was with, took a sip of my drink, and they saw it.

BUT, on a better note, when I was handcuffed, I managed to get a cigarette out of my pocket, AND light it ;)

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

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[DirtyMechanic]

Ok, Your points is irrelevent. I DID NOT have a fake ID. The cop was actually asking me for it when I was talking to him after. I used my LEGIT ID to get in, and I used NO ID to get the wrist band. Why do you think the bouncers have extra 21+ bands IN THEIR POCKET? Use your head. I know I drank underage, But I didnt use the ID to get one, He offered me one in the bathroom.

Continuesounds to me they were trying to cover their ass by having you either going to jail or going away home quietly because you got a band with a under 21 ID.

[SL33P3R]

EXACTLY



Tsi- Lets just say, I AM 21, and I COULD DRINK THERE LEGALLY, I still let an underage girl drink my drink, and wouldve gotten kicked out with the same ending. The reason I was kicked out is because I let her sip my drink, not because they knew I was under 21 and I was drinking with a 21+ band. Get with the program son or get the fuck out

[TSiFTW]

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! WHO THE FUCK PISSED IN YOUR FUCKING CEREAL, CHUMP?

If you fucking PAY a motherfucker to do his fucking job right and he fucks up, do you fucking blame the other guy or the motherfucker that you're paying? Answer me that shit.

This is the same fucking shit Akon got involved in......underage girl get's in the club, gets on the stage, Akon dry humps her, video gets out, and he's blamed for it?? LOL.

DUDE CAME TO AN 21+ EVENT........HE'S GOTTA MIND SET THAT EVERYONE IN THE CLUB IS OVER THE FUCKING AGE OF 21.......AND THEN IN THE END, THE GIRL WAS 13 YR OLD.......DO YOU BLAME HIM FOR NOT KNOWING....OR DO YOU BLAME THE BOUNCER FOR LETTING IN THE UNDERAGE CHICK TO AN EVENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 21+? HMMM.......YOU TELL ME GENIUS.


YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE ARGUMENT....YOU'RE LOOKING TO FAR INTO THE ARGUMENT, IT WAS HIS FAULT, HE BOUGHT IT, HE CHOSE TO DRINK, BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA.......

LIKE I SAID........WHAT IF HIS SOLE PURPOSE WAS THERE TO JUST CHILL AND NOT DRINK.....AND THE BOUNCER FORCED HIM TO BUY THEM OR HE WOULD KICK HIM OUT THE CLUB?

OR WHAT IF HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO BUY THEM?

AND THEN IN THE END......HE GOT "CAUGHT" WITH THE BAND.......WELL HOW IN THE FUCK DID HE GET THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE? SURELY NOT BY SHOWING HIS I.D. BECAUSE IT CLEARLY SHOWS HE IS NOT OF AGE TO RECEIVE ONE. RIGHT...?? RIGHT.

AND WTF IS THERE TO MAN UP ABOUT THE SITUATION? HE GOT BEAT UP BY A HIGHER POWER WHO TOOK IT TO A LEVEL THAT WAS NOT NEEDED FOR. DUDE WAS HANDCUFFED......THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THEM.......WHAT COULD'VE HE POSSIBLY DONE TO THEM? STAB THEM WITH HIS HANDS BEHIND THE BACK?

YOU WITH ARMS VS. DUDE WITH NO ARMS.........WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN IN A BOXING MATCH?


I NEED TO GO FOR A FUCKING LAWYER.


End of argument. Underage drinking is illegal. Meth is illegal. If I sold you meth and you accepted it then we are both criminals. Therefore the one who sold the 21+ pass was wrong for selling it, and he was wrong for buying it. Back to the actual point of the thread of him getting kicked around. If he didn't like it he should have done something about it then.

PS CHUMP. When you post like a fucking uneducated moron that cant punctuate and type in all caps during a discussion then you are not relevant in a reasonable conversation. Learn some shit before trying to be a know it all. Thank you and good bye. I only argue with intelligent people, who who make sense in their posts.

[SL33P3R]

End of argument. Underage drinking is illegal. Meth is illegal. If I sold you meth and you accepted it then we are both criminals. Therefore the one who sold the 21+ pass was wrong for selling it, and he was wrong for buying it. Back to the actual point of the thread of him getting kicked around. If he didn't like it he should have done something about it then.

PS CHUMP. When you post like a fucking uneducated moron that cant punctuate and type in all caps during a discussion then you are not relevant in a reasonable conversation. Learn some shit before trying to be a know it all. Thank you and good bye. I only argue with intelligent people, who who make sense in their posts.


Lets try this then. You should re-read the first post. And COMPREHEND that I got kicked out for letting a girl sip my drink. NOT for me being 19 and having a 21+ wrist band. Assault is assault. Whether I am 19 or 25. Get with the program

[DirtyMechanic]

End of argument. Underage drinking is illegal. Meth is illegal. If I sold you meth and you accepted it then we are both criminals. Therefore the one who sold the 21+ pass was wrong for selling it, and he was wrong for buying it. Back to the actual point of the thread of him getting kicked around. If he didn't like it he should have done something about it then.

PS CHUMP. When you post like a fucking uneducated moron that cant punctuate and type in all caps during a discussion then you are not relevant in a reasonable conversation. Learn some shit before trying to be a know it all. Thank you and good bye. I only argue with intelligent people, who who make sense in their posts.well then i guess we all know now you dont talk to yourself. i have come to the conclusion that you dont know shit. if he wasnt sold it in the first place this wouldnt have happened. learn cause and effect. and order of events then you can come back and speak.

[SL33P3R]

Thank you sir

[TSiFTW]

Lets try this then. You should re-read the first post. And COMPREHEND that I got kicked out for letting a girl sip my drink. NOT for me being 19 and having a 21+ wrist band. Assault is assault. Whether I am 19 or 25. Get with the program

I am not arguing with YOU on that. I put in my :2cents: as far as that goes. You should have taken care of that right then and there. I was arguing my point on a whole different subject to the OTHER guy. Still if you weren't drinking she would NOT have sipped your drink. It still all boils down to the fact you were drinking. You got kicked out, got beat up, and should have pressed charges then. Now you probably stand no chance.

[SL33P3R]

I am not arguing with YOU on that. I put in my :2cents: as far as that goes. You should have taken care of that right then and there. I was arguing my point on a whole different subject to the OTHER guy. Still if you weren't drinking she would NOT have sipped your drink. It still all boils down to the fact you were drinking. You got kicked out, got beat up, and should have pressed charges then. Now you probably stand no chance.

Well. I think I still have a chance. I have pictures. One completely sober and one friend who took a sip who can vouch for me. If my dads attorney doesnt think we will win, I wont pursue. Hes a family friend, so we will see

[DirtyMechanic]

I am not arguing with YOU on that. I put in my :2cents: as far as that goes. You should have taken care of that right then and there. I was arguing my point on a whole different subject to the OTHER guy. Still if you weren't drinking she would NOT have sipped your drink. It still all boils down to the fact you were drinking. You got kicked out, got beat up, and should have pressed charges then. Now you probably stand no chance.it boils down to they were trying to cover their ass for selling a 21 band to someone under 21. not for him drinking.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

End of argument. Underage drinking is illegal. Meth is illegal. If I sold you meth and you accepted it then we are both criminals. Therefore the one who sold the 21+ pass was wrong for selling it, and he was wrong for buying it. Back to the actual point of the thread of him getting kicked around. If he didn't like it he should have done something about it then.

PS CHUMP. When you post like a fucking uneducated moron that cant punctuate and type in all caps during a discussion then you are not relevant in a reasonable conversation. Learn some shit before trying to be a know it all. Thank you and good bye. I only argue with intelligent people, who who make sense in their posts.http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo216/03redTuscani/lol_wut.jpg

[SL33P3R]

it boils down to they were trying to cover their ass for selling a 21 band to someone under 21. not for him drinking.

Its time to give up on that guy. Hes lost and confusing everyone

[TSiFTW]

well then i guess we all know now you dont talk to yourself. i have come to the conclusion that you dont know shit. if he wasnt sold it in the first place this wouldnt have happened. learn cause and effect. and order of events then you can come back and speak.

So no one takes responsibility anymore for their actions. You all are nothing but a bunch of shit talking wanna be hard asses. You have a lot to learn about real life. I don't care how old you are. So because someone sells you something illegal it makes it right now? Got damn hell yeah.

[SL33P3R]

So no one takes responsibility anymore for their actions. You all are nothing but a bunch of shit talking wanna be hard asses. You have a lot to learn about real life. I don't care how old you are. So because someone sells you something illegal it makes it right now? Got damn hell yeah.


THATS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IM IN THE WRONG FOR DRINKING. BUT IM NOT IN THE WRONG FOR GETTING MY ASS WHOOPED. THEY CAUGHT ME GIVING SOMEONE A SIP, BIG DEAL. KICK ME OUT. YOU DONT HAVE TO KICK ME OUT AND BEAT MY ASS. You need to learn to read. You are way off on this story. I dont care if you are talking to me or IZZY. IM TALKING ABOUT PRESSING CHARGES ABOUT GETTING ASSAULTED. Drinking underage<assault. I feel like Im talking to a kid.

[DirtyMechanic]

Its time to give up on that guy. Hes lost and confusing everyonetrue he is... but all in all. i think they would just trying to cover their asses for selling 21 bands to people under 21. so they can make some more money off bands and drinks from people that cant do it legally. and the cops that were hired are going to side with the people that pay them. i would have called the cops and had different officers come and file a report with them. not the paid off duty officers that were going to arrest you for pressing charges... but i guess all you can do i see what a lawyer thinks and go from there. sad part is it might be all a he said, he said thing now. unless somehow you can get the videos, if there is any of the event. sorry to say it might just turn out to be a learing experience... but good luck anyways.

[TSiFTW]

THATS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IM IN THE WRONG FOR DRINKING. BUT IM NOT IN THE WRONG FOR GETTING MY ASS WHOOPED. THEY CAUGHT ME GIVING SOMEONE A SIP, BIG DEAL. KICK ME OUT. YOU DONT HAVE TO KICK ME OUT AND BEAT MY ASS. You need to learn to read. You are way off on this story. I dont care if you are talking to me or IZZY. IM TALKING ABOUT PRESSING CHARGES ABOUT GETTING ASSAULTED. Drinking underage<assault. I feel like Im talking to a kid.

And in talking to you I simply stated I think you should have done it right then if you were gonna do it. Read my post.

[DirtyMechanic]

So no one takes responsibility anymore for their actions. You all are nothing but a bunch of shit talking wanna be hard asses. You have a lot to learn about real life. I don't care how old you are. So because someone sells you something illegal it makes it right now? Got damn hell yeah.no it doesnt make it right. but your not holding the one that is selling it accountable for anything. which in this case started it all. cause... effect...:goodjob:

[SL33P3R]

Yeah, Im not balls to the wall ready to sue. Im just weighing my options. This isnt the first black eye Ive had. I actually was laughing when I left cause I couldnt believe it just happened. But if I can own opera, or get some cash, Ill do it for the fun! ;)

[TSiFTW]

true he is... but all in all. i think they would just trying to cover their asses for selling 21 bands to people under 21. so they can make some more money off bands and drinks from people that cant do it legally. and the cops that were hired are going to side with the people that pay them. i would have called the cops and had different officers come and file a report with them. not the paid off duty officers that were going to arrest you for pressing charges... but i guess all you can do i see what a lawyer thinks and go from there. sad part is it might be all a he said, he said thing now. unless somehow you can get the videos, if there is any of the event. sorry to say it might just turn out to be a learing experience... but good luck anyways.

That was what I said in my post. I totally agree. I was arguing a moot point with IZZY that is all.

[DirtyMechanic]

THATS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IM IN THE WRONG FOR DRINKING. BUT IM NOT IN THE WRONG FOR GETTING MY ASS WHOOPED. THEY CAUGHT ME GIVING SOMEONE A SIP, BIG DEAL. KICK ME OUT. YOU DONT HAVE TO KICK ME OUT AND BEAT MY ASS. You need to learn to read. You are way off on this story. I dont care if you are talking to me or IZZY. IM TALKING ABOUT PRESSING CHARGES ABOUT GETTING ASSAULTED. Drinking underage<assault. I feel like Im talking to a kid.you are... a over grown kid.

[SL33P3R]

And in talking to you I simply stated I think you should have done it right then if you were gonna do it. Read my post.


I read your post. Ive read every single one of your posts. I dont know about you, but I dont want to go to the jail in Atlanta. That was a smart decision on my part. Plus, I dont want that on my record, yet again another smart decision on my part. ANOTHER smart decision on my part is taking pictures of myself that night when I got home. Im not saying im going to win. Im not even saying Im going to sue. Im just seeing what people THINK I can do. Everybody else Ive talked to, even club owners, told me to pursue it. Period

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

LOL.....Kicking someone out is one thing.........but beating someone out IS ANOTHER.

I DON'T THINK HE GET'S THIS.

[TSiFTW]

LOL.....Kicking someone out is one thing.........but beating someone out IS ANOTHER.

I DON'T THINK HE GET'S THIS.

I totally get it. Pursue it if you want. I just stated my opinion. It will still be he said, she said. Civil court is a mother fucker.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I totally get it. Pursue it if you want. I just stated my opinion. It will still be he said, she said. Civil court is a mother fucker.Ok...thank you.

[DirtyMechanic]

I read your post. Ive read every single one of your posts. I dont know about you, but I dont want to go to the jail in Atlanta. That was a smart decision on my part. Plus, I dont want that on my record, yet again another smart decision on my part. ANOTHER smart decision on my part is taking pictures of myself that night when I got home. Im not saying im going to win. Im not even saying Im going to sue. Im just seeing what people THINK I can do. Everybody else Ive talked to, even club owners, told me to pursue it. Periodyou know you can still file a report after it happened. plus you have pictures of right after it happened. id say pursue it.

[TSiFTW]

Damn. Thread of the day maybe.

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[Jason..]

I understand getting kicked out 100%, I was not arguing about that at all. I know I was in the wrong. But punching me in my face while I was handcuffed on my stomach had me wondering..This reminds me of a movie lol.

[MachNU]

yeah i would not bother. because once its known that you where under 21 and drinking, you just lost all credability. Then like someone already stated you will get a huge fine, and loose your license!

[DirtyMechanic]

yeah i would not bother. because once its known that you where under 21 and drinking, you just lost all credability. Then like someone already stated you will get a huge fine, and loose your license!its after the fact now they have no proof that he was drinking and why would he lose his license if he wasnt driving again?

[B18c1Turboed]

I would sue. I would list the club as a plaintiff as well as the body guard and the cop. Even if the club lets the employee go, he was still working their so they would be responsible also. Make sure you take plenty of pictures, also go file a police report. I would acknowledge too the cops someone else was drinking and you weren’t the one, that they where kicking your group out.

Most clubs carry insurance for stuff like this I’m sure the insurance company would step in and take care of you.

I think its funny how most on IA say it was your fault. Get serious, everyone drinks before they are 21. So no reason to jump his ass over it.

[ShooterMcGavin]

if that story is the troof then you got pwnt.

[lcortes32]

Damn This is Fucked up man...These Bouncers are on power Trips they wouldnt Let Me in with My California ID and i am 19..They said the ID was Fake then the fucker called the Police officer and he Looked Stupid Because the ID was infact Real..

[AirMax95]

Wow....sue.

The kicking of your ass is assault, underage drinking or not. Maybe I'm too nice, but just ask the patron to leave the establishment. Handcuffing, beating, and tossing in a dumpster is kinda extra. Civil case at the least I would think. Forget the bouncer, get the club.

[BobbyFresco]

Damn This is Fucked up man...These Bouncers are on power Trips they wouldnt Let Me in with My California ID and i am 19..They said the ID was Fake then the fucker called the Police officer and he Looked Stupid Because the ID was infact Real..

Please resize your sig.

[MachNU]

its after the fact now they have no proof that he was drinking and why would he lose his license if he wasnt driving again?

You realize that like B18 said clubs carry heavy insurance. They also have LOADS of high end video cameras! They would have him on video wearing a over 21 braclet, there fore Underage Possesion. He could argue that someone sold it to him, but that would just put more dis-credit against him. Underage Possesion is a automatic 6-12 month suspension of ones license.

I agree with B18 that everyone under 21 drinks, but least most are not dumb enough to do it or try it in a place that will most likely get you caught!

[§treet_§peed]

I don't know about it being a automatic license suspension unless things have changed over the last few years. Because back in high school my buddy got caught with a bottle of booze in his car because his girl friend at the time got to drunk and started puking. He just got kicked out of school for the remainder of the year which was only like 2 weeks lol. So he had to take summer school to graduate. But he never said who bought it for him. But he never lost his license. Although he did have to take a drug & AA class. But that was only because he was caught at school.

[§treet_§peed]

Even tho the one of the assistant principles and the resource officer took the bottle and drank it. Of course the school i went to was crooked as fuck anyways to begin with.

[MachNU]

I don't know about it being a automatic license suspension unless things have changed over the last few years. Because back in high school my buddy got caught with a bottle of booze in his car because his girl friend at the time got to drunk and started puking. He just got kicked out of school for the remainder of the year which was only like 2 weeks lol. So he had to take summer school to graduate. But he never said who bought it for him. But he never lost his license. Although he did have to take a drug & AA class. But that was only because he was caught at school.

3-3-23.
(a) Except as otherwise authorized by law:
(1) No person knowingly, directly or through another person, shall furnish, cause to be furnished, or permit any person in such person´s employ to furnish any alcoholic beverage to any person under 21 years of age;
(2) No person under 21 years of age shall purchase, attempt to purchase, or knowingly possess any alcoholic beverage;
(3) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent such person´s age in any manner whatever for the purpose of obtaining illegally any alcoholic beverage;
(4) No person knowingly or intentionally shall act as an agent to purchase or acquire any alcoholic beverage for or on behalf of a person under 21 years of age; or
(5) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent his or her identity or use any false identification for the purpose of purchasing or obtaining any alcoholic beverage.

Last I saw being caught with underage poessesion was a automatic license suspension. It may have changed though. :dunno:

[UpSideDownDesi]

LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.

DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.

BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.

LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.

This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?

YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?

For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.

Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?

B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S

IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?

IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????

I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....

GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.

I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.

OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.

And how do you know it all...Attorney, law student, organized parities, own(ed) a club?

First he'll have to prove that bouncer sold it to him, bouncer isn't gonna say "I did it". All he has to say is, "I didn't sell it, he probably had his 21+ friend get it for him." Now it comes to OP to prove that Bouncer sold him the VIP bands to get access to drinks. Bands were sold in bathroom, no cameras, no proof on OP side.

Boucner didn't force him to buy, he asked, OP accepted, both at fault.

OP still at fault driving drunk, him still at 100% fault if he got hurt in accident. Now underage drinking, DUI, accident ticket, w/e cops wants to charge. Ever got pulled over for DUI underage and said "shit not my fault, this bar sold it to me...i am innocent."

How, where, when did minor got drinks happens at the scene, by the officers present at the scene. So it can be documented properly. What did the cops at the sight do?

Walmat.....Night Club....2 totally different location. U do shit at Walmart, they won't beat your ass, but will lock your in a room till cops come....hour, 2, 3. What are you gonna do sue walmart because you did something illegal and they locked you in a room?

Heck if he didn't report it that night....i don't even see him able to prove he got beat by security. If i say, he got thrown out of Opera for underage drinking then got in a fight with his friend who gave him 21+ bands over him promising not getting caught, but getting caught within few mins and being upset about it. Then comes up with "i can say Opera Bouncer did all this." Who is to prove me wrong? Documentation?


Nothign against OP, we all have been there and did that. It's our damn age to have fun. Like i said at this point if all this wasn't documentate properly, it will be a hard case to prove. Plus OP will be admiting in court about underage drinking.

[UpSideDownDesi]

U can still report it, but longer you wait.....weaker your case will be. It's gonna be a hard case, you'll need VERY good lawyer. Opera has very deep pockets, and they go through these kinds of cases on regular basis so they know exactly buttons to press. GL

[MS3ZZ]

I would file assault charges.

[MachNU]

And how do you know it all...Attorney, law student, organized parities, own(ed) a club?

First he'll have to prove that bouncer sold it to him, bouncer isn't gonna say "I did it". All he has to say is, "I didn't sell it, he probably had his 21+ friend get it for him." Now it comes to OP to prove that Bouncer sold him the VIP bands to get access to drinks. Bands were sold in bathroom, no cameras, no proof on OP side.

Boucner didn't force him to buy, he asked, OP accepted, both at fault.

OP still at fault driving drunk, him still at 100% fault if he got hurt in accident. Now underage drinking, DUI, accident ticket, w/e cops wants to charge. Ever got pulled over for DUI underage and said "shit not my fault, this bar sold it to me...i am innocent."

How, where, when did minor got drinks happens at the scene, by the officers present at the scene. So it can be documented properly. What did the cops at the sight do?

Walmat.....Night Club....2 totally different location. U do shit at Walmart, they won't beat your ass, but will lock your in a room till cops come....hour, 2, 3. What are you gonna do sue walmart because you did something illegal and they locked you in a room?

Heck if he didn't report it that night....i don't even see him able to prove he got beat by security. If i say, he got thrown out of Opera for underage drinking then got in a fight with his friend who gave him 21+ bands over him promising not getting caught, but getting caught within few mins and being upset about it. Then comes up with "i can say Opera Bouncer did all this." Who is to prove me wrong? Documentation?


Nothign against OP, we all have been there and did that. It's our damn age to have fun. Like i said at this point if all this wasn't documentate properly, it will be a hard case to prove. Plus OP will be admiting in court about underage drinking.

Wow first time I can quote you and agree. Hell even better to throw in the mix what if the bouncer that sold him the band was actually a cop? His ass would have been arrested on the spot. He goes to court he has to admit to commiting fraud to obtain the drinks. At that point all credability is lost with what ever he says. Past there club can turn around and counter sue for harrassing them and for court cost. So then you would be looking at a possible counter-lawsuit + if the judge wants to fine you or punish you for possesion of alcohol as a minor!

Just chalk this up as a very very hard lesson learned.

[§treet_§peed]

3-3-23.
(a) Except as otherwise authorized by law:
(1) No person knowingly, directly or through another person, shall furnish, cause to be furnished, or permit any person in such person´s employ to furnish any alcoholic beverage to any person under 21 years of age;
(2) No person under 21 years of age shall purchase, attempt to purchase, or knowingly possess any alcoholic beverage;
(3) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent such person´s age in any manner whatever for the purpose of obtaining illegally any alcoholic beverage;
(4) No person knowingly or intentionally shall act as an agent to purchase or acquire any alcoholic beverage for or on behalf of a person under 21 years of age; or
(5) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent his or her identity or use any false identification for the purpose of purchasing or obtaining any alcoholic beverage.

Last I saw being caught with underage poessesion was a automatic license suspension. It may have changed though. :dunno:not dissing you but all you stated was the law about alcohol. not what penalties come with breaking any of these.

[MachNU]

not dissing you but all you stated was the law about alcohol. not what penalties come with breaking any of these.

Like the last line said...i can not find the punishment for them...let me keep looking.

[zspeed24]

Who has ever seen someone that gets thrown out of a club get beat up for no reason??? From my exp. generally tends to be because of a mouthy drunk... not saying that this is what happened just my 2 cents.

[MachNU]

Well shit I was wrong to one extent. It would matter if he was driving the vehicle at the time. But the court could still argue he obtained alcohol at the club and then drove home after getting thrown out, could cause some issues.

(2) For purposes of this chapter, an accepted plea of nolo contendere to any violation of Code Section 40-6-393 or 40-6-394 shall constitute a conviction.
(e) The driveŕs license of any person under 21 years of age who is convicted of unlawful possession of alcoholic beverages in violation of Code Section 3-3-23 while operating a motor vehicle may be suspended for a period of not less than 120 days. At the end of 120 days, the person may apply to the department for reinstatement of said driveŕs license. Such license shall be reinstated only if the person submits proof of completion of an approved DUI Alcohol or Drug Use Risk Reduction Program and pays a restoration fee of $35.00 or $25.00 when processed by mail. For purposes of this subsection, a sentence under subsection (c) of Code Section 3-3-23.1 shall not be considered a conviction, and the driveŕs license of such person shall not be suspended, provided that such person completes a DUI Alcohol or Drug Use Risk Reduction Program within 120 days after sentencing.

This is what you would face if charged with underage possession.

3-3-23.1.
(a) It is unlawful for any person knowingly to violate any prohibition contained in Code Section 3-3-23, relating to furnishing alcoholic beverages to, and purchasing, attempting to purchase, and possession of alcoholic beverages by, a person under 21 years of age.
(b)(1) Any person convicted of violating any prohibition contained in subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor, except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by not more than six monthś imprisonment or a fine of not more than $300.00, or both and except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (4) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
(2) Any person convicted of violating any prohibition contained in subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the second or subsequent conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature, except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the second or subsequent conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor.
(3) In addition to any other penalty provided for in paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, the driveŕs license of any person convicted of attempting to purchase an alcoholic beverage in violation of paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 upon the first conviction shall be suspended for six months and upon the second or subsequent conviction shall be suspended for one year.

[ueyedgr8tness]

lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong:) that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.

[MachNU]

lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong:) that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.

Yeah you cant refute that. But what he has to hope is they have him on camera getting beat. If he does then he might be able to take a hit for the underage possession to sue the club. But if he takes them to court, has no video evidence of what happened. They have proof of him with the 21+ band, then he just shot himself in the foot, and its going to get real bad real fast!

My vote is to not risk it, and chalk it up as a hard lesson!

[zspeed24]

Yeah you cant refute that. But what he has to hope is they have him on camera getting beat. If he does then he might be able to take a hit for the underage possession to sue the club. But if he takes them to court, has no video evidence of what happened. They have proof of him with the 21+ band, then he just shot himself in the foot, and its going to get real bad real fast!

My vote is to not risk it, and chalk it up as a hard lesson!

X2

[sogood]

lol take that shit to trial bitch.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GdNL2BdQnwo/SEzGL-Q2lOI/AAAAAAAANgY/axPKhMwCztM/s400/diamond%2Beye.jpg

[UpSideDownDesi]

lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong:) that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.
If I remember OP got beater outside the club when he was handcuffed and against a trash can, doubt they'll have a cam there, but never hurts checking. If on can then he has a case. Opera already has bad rep about their bouncers, and business they do. They have been good to me, but i am still careful not to start anything there.

[TheGodfather]

lol take that shit to trial bitch.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GdNL2BdQnwo/SEzGL-Q2lOI/AAAAAAAANgY/axPKhMwCztM/s400/diamond%2Beye.jpg

Get yo twelve white folks first.

[Paul]

i'm not reading this entire thread but i would most certainly report it - its a suit between you vs club so i wouldn't worry about state coming after you for buying alcohol, etc... i would assume they are at fault for serving a minor then any damages you suffered by bouncers.

i can't stand sue happy people but quick read makes it sound like you just got taken advantage of... get your mutha fuckn check!

[HatchForSale]

For all you idiots who dont know the LAW.... he was asked to leave, he leaved without putting up a fight, they crossed the line by pushing him down the stairs, and then outside where they hand cuffed and beat him, yeah id say thats breaking the law on the Bouncers side, and yeah it was stupid for him to go to a 21+ club but he didnt deserve to get beat up for it. And you can still file charges on them, and id def. have your dads attorney rip them a new asshole and a nice little lawsuit. They have no chance of winning this in court you have 2 witnesses and just because they may have cops trust me dont sweat it they can possibly be repremanded

[HatchForSale]

x2

[BABY J]

I would have went to jail --- they would have lost their liquor license and just MIGHT get to re-open the club after a year w/ a new name like Baby J's Chill Spot.

[MachNU]

For all you idiots who dont know the LAW.... he was asked to leave, he leaved without putting up a fight, they crossed the line by pushing him down the stairs, and then outside where they hand cuffed and beat him, yeah id say thats breaking the law on the Bouncers side, and yeah it was stupid for him to go to a 21+ club but he didnt deserve to get beat up for it. And you can still file charges on them, and id def. have your dads attorney rip them a new asshole and a nice little lawsuit. They have no chance of winning this in court you have 2 witnesses and just because they may have cops trust me dont sweat it they can possibly be repremanded

um for you not knowing the law...alot of what you just posted was here-say! Unless they have it on video he cant prove it. They WILL have him on video breaking the law with possession of alcolhol. Therefore losing him alot of credability about anything he says against them! Plus he would still have to admit in court of what he did to put him in the wrong for the actions they took against him. Be shotting himself in the foot!

[HatchForSale]

lol, for you who drives that week ass STANG, my dad is a lawyer and just told me what to his options were fuck tard, are you a lawyer, no what the fuck do you know, you faggot ass bitch and your girly STANG

[HatchForSale]

2 witnesses, who were sober, id say that enough credibility jackass go back to school you southern illiterate bastard lol

[MachNU]

lol, for you who drives that week ass STANG, my dad is a lawyer and just told me what to his options were fuck tard, are you a lawyer, no what the fuck do you know, you faggot ass bitch and your girly STANG

uhahahahahahahahahahaha! all i had!

If your dad is so smart then ask him if he can prove it without evidence? :lmfao: dumbass!

[MachNU]

2 witnesses, who were sober, id say that enough credibility jackass go back to school you southern illiterate bastard lol

where did he ever post that he had witnesses in the back where he was getting assulted?

[HatchForSale]

Ok, here you go for your stupid comment. Just to throw it in your face,seems how you know so much...

1. The bouncer let him in the Club with a fake ID or whatever it was, which makes the Club liable for serving a minor. Bouncers are suppose to be trained for finding a fake ID

2. Unlawful imprisonment, bouncer can not handcuff you by anymeans

3. The officer will be forced to testify in court and i will bet you he wont lie, or he will be in contemp and will not doubt lose his job

3. Assualt and battering charges will be filed on the Bouncer/ (s) and the Club owner for allowing such behavior and serving minors alcohol
hows that did i break it down BARNEY style for you or do i need to go down to telletubbie for you?

[Paul]

where did he ever post that he had witnesses in the back where he was getting assulted?

well he wasn't in VIP by himself :goodjob:

[HatchForSale]

maybe you should read every comment on this thread before posting, DEE DE DEE

[TheGodfather]

maybe you should read every comment on this thread before posting, DEE DE DEE

I wish you were aborted.

[HatchForSale]

x2 lol, thats right lol

[MachNU]

Ok, here you go for your stupid comment. Just to throw it in your face,seems how you know so much...

1. The bouncer let him in the Club with a fake ID or whatever it was, which makes the Club liable for serving a minor. Bouncers are suppose to be trained for finding a fake ID

2. Unlawful imprisonment, bouncer can not handcuff you by anymeans

3. The officer will be forced to testify in court and i will bet you he wont lie, or he will be in contemp and will not doubt lose his job

3. Assualt and battering charges will be filed on the Bouncer/ (s) and the Club owner for allowing such behavior and serving minors alcohol
hows that did i break it down BARNEY style for you or do i need to go down to telletubbie for you?

LOL oh god this is great. Take your own advice but dont just read all the comments, actually read the first post! :lmao:


Well, I was at this club the other night, Yes Im underage. Im the bathroom this bouncer said he would sell me a 21+ band and 3 VIP bands, so i did.

BAM Just comitted a crime right there, by purchasing the band! All credability lost!

Also Pual he only states there where people in VIP with him, never said anything about them being out back!

[HatchForSale]

doesnt matter BAM! The only thing that will happen to him is he'll beforced to take a class, and maybe a fine BAM small price to pay for this but wont matter he'll be rolling in some dough soon

You should take advantage of the Cash for Clunkers on that STANG

[HatchForSale]

BAM the Bouncer was selling kids 21+ VIP passes, and thats not a crime lol your an idiot take a gun and kill yourself seriously man your just plain retarded

[MachNU]

doesnt matter BAM! The only thing that will happen to him is he'll beforced to take a class, and maybe a fine BAM small price to pay for this but wont matter he'll be rolling in some dough soon

You should take advantage of the Cash for Clunkers on that STANG

http://images.roflposters.com/images/rofl/myspace/1249381873.1249381874.jpg.[roflposters.com].myspace.jpg (http://www.roflposters.com/tactical-facepalm-When-a-normal-facepalm-is-not-enough/964933/)


Seems you need that!

I guess you dont understand. If your dads a knowledgeable attorney ask him about a plantiff's credability, and then what happens when that credability is shown in court!

[Paul]

doesnt matter BAM! The only thing that will happen to him is he'll beforced to take a class, and maybe a fine BAM small price to pay for this but wont matter he'll be rolling in some dough soon

You should take advantage of the Cash for Clunkers on that STANG


the force is strong w/ this one +25

[MachNU]

BAM the Bouncer was selling kids 21+ VIP passes, and thats not a crime lol your an idiot take a gun and kill yourself seriously man your just plain retarded

Prove that the bouncer sold it to him? :lmfao: You dont seem to get it! Man from your post, and your dad being a lawyer you sure your not B-rad from Malibu? :thinking:

[HatchForSale]

Dude you just need to stop talking your digging your self a hole, The Club and Bouncers are the ones whose credibilty are fucked, man you need to go back to school, i learned this shit in Grade school

[DynamicSound]

Personally, I would let it go. It weren't suppose to be there in the first place and got your butt kicked for it. I do not believe in karma, but this would qualify if I did.

[HatchForSale]

MACH N U is officially the TARD of the MONTH:goodjob:

[BABY J]

1) clubs hire off-duty cops bc they shoulf KNOW the law. Knowing the law means that...

--> they should know that beating a handcuffed customer in the face while he's choking on a dumpster shouldn't happen
--> that they are job is to remove them from the premises ... not interrogate or torture them out back
--> the club should hold regular meetings on what is allowed and what is not for their security staff

** on a 2nd note, unless you are going to jail or having sex I think it's illegal for a bouncer to handcuff you - but I will check on that.

[MachNU]

Dude you just need to stop talking your digging your self a hole, The Club and Bouncers are the ones whose credibilty are fucked, man you need to go back to school, i learned this shit in Grade school

Wow you are stupid. Where did the clubs credability go? He has to first prove what they did outback. From the way he told it, there was just him, the bouncer and a cop out back. If there where no cameras its a cop's word against his. His being the one who obtained alcohol illegally. Next he has to prove that a bouncer sold him the bands in a bathroom, where %99.9 chance theres zero cameras. Next the club will have evidence of him buying drinks from the bar with a wristband, that hurts his credability! Did I explain it out well enough for you, or do I need to start drawing pictures? :lmfao:

[MachNU]

MACH N U is officially the TARD of the MONTH:goodjob:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Wow I think your in love with me. Almost all your post on this site are revolved around me. :lmfao:

[TSiFTW]

How about we let him go ahead and do whatever he wants to do. Then afterwards let him come on here and post about the results. Then see who is right and who is wrong. :goodjob:

[sogood]

Anyone who thinks the OP will actually get a settlement if he's to press charges is lacking a severe amount of intelligencehttp://i25.tinypic.com/34nks40.gif

[TSiFTW]

In the mean time we can take side bets.:yes:

[MachNU]

In the mean time we can take side bets.:yes:

$100 10-1 for the defense! :goodjob:

[TSiFTW]

$100 10-1 for the defense! :goodjob:


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[zspeed24]

I'll take that gimme 200 on the defense!

[MS3ZZ]

Press charge dude
Bouncer gets in trouble for battery because they cannot beat up people by law, then the club owner is liable. Double win. DO IT!

[BanginJimmy]

A few points I would like to make.

1.Lose your license until your 21 because an alcohol related incident on your record says you will. Lawyer may get around this but its hit and miss.

2. Sue if you want, no one forced you to drink. The bouncer selling the illegal bands actually relieves the club of responsibility. He was not acting in accordance with his duties, therefore, not under the purview of the club. They MIGHT settle for enough to pay a decent lawyer though just to keep their name out of the papers.

3. It is not unlawful imprisonment if their duties include detaining suspects until police arrive, which is what most clubs do with underage drinkers. They do this to avoid the drunk driving incident that was brought up.

4. It is complete BS that a business could be sued because of the incompetence of the people that go there. Should I be able to sue my employer if I get hurt in a wreck on the way home? How about Kroger if I am on my way from grocery shopping? Your safety is your own responsibility. It is not the job of a business to babysit its customers.


These are through page 5. I imagine I will have more by the time I finish reading.

[Bajjani]

LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.

DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.

BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.

LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.

This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?

YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?

For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.

Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?

B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S

IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?

IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????

I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....

GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.

I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.

OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.


First, TYPING IN CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Please stop.

Comparing a walmart employee to a bouncer at a club is a huge difference. There are a lot of diff scenario's that could play out here.

Opera could never want this to go to court, they wouldn't want their name in the paper saying that one of their bouncers got caught contributing to minors and for assault against the same minor.

Opera could say take it to court, say that the kid was, while intoxicated, being disruptive and causing a problem. After being handcuffed he was struggling and KICKING at the cops, and that was the cause for your eye, was defense. It may not swing but I know in KY that if you kick at a cop and he slams your head into a hood, good luck pressing any charges. Its them vs an underage drinking.

He could take them to court, they try the above, and fail, and he gets money, fined for underage drinking, the bouncer gets fired in all scenarios, and he gets money.

[MachNU]

A few points I would like to make.

1.Lose your license until your 21 because an alcohol related incident on your record says you will. Lawyer may get around this but its hit and miss.

2. Sue if you want, no one forced you to drink. The bouncer selling the illegal bands actually relieves the club of responsibility. He was not acting in accordance with his duties, therefore, not under the purview of the club. They MIGHT settle for enough to pay a decent lawyer though just to keep their name out of the papers.

3. It is not unlawful imprisonment if their duties include detaining suspects until police arrive, which is what most clubs do with underage drinkers. They do this to avoid the drunk driving incident that was brought up.

4. It is complete BS that a business could be sued because of the incompetence of the people that go there. Should I be able to sue my employer if I get hurt in a wreck on the way home? How about Kroger if I am on my way from grocery shopping? Your safety is your own responsibility. It is not the job of a business to babysit its customers.


These are through page 5. I imagine I will have more by the time I finish reading.

I thought I was right that your license got suspended in GA for underage possession.

Also your right. Now that I think about it, a few years ago, last time I ever went to a club. Was wild bills, a friend of ours was there underage and got caught drinking from his brothers drink. A bouncer twice his size walked up behind him, pushed him, put him into a head lock and drug him out the exit where 3 cops where waiting.

[MachNU]

He could take them to court, they try the above, and fail, and he gets money, fined for underage drinking, the bouncer gets fired in all scenarios, and he gets money.

Agreed, seems to be the common answer in this case. But the whole admitting to the underage possession will be the clincher in all scenarios!

[BanginJimmy]

I swear there are more jailhouse lawyers in this thread than Chino and Sing Sing combined.

[MachNU]

I swear there are more jailhouse lawyers in this thread than Chino and Sing Sing combined.

:lmao:

[Njobe]

he probably wouldn't even get a chance to take it to court.. opera's insurance would come in and offer him money (if he had/has strong evidence to support it) or even the owner might just keep it out of the news... once again talk to a good lawyer see what he mainly thinks...

[Julio]

I wish that would happen to me...

Get the news involved.

This was fail on all sides... You will learn a lesson, so will they....

[Black R]

i would take it to court.

jury's almost always side with the wronged individual vs the evil corporate entity (opera in this case)

you WILL get paid, probably through out of court settlement - and bouncer will have to bounce the fuck out lol.

the underage and drinking thing isn't even an issue imo. talk to a real lawyer instead of these clowns.

[BABY J]

^^ Agreed. I'm with you Julio. Being punched in the face while u are handcuffed alone is enough that would have put me over the top no matter WHAT I did wrong.

LOL

Kinda reminds me of when I was in college.. we'd get some kegs and leak it to the high-school kids (underage) on purpose. $10 to party. Then we'd get a good count at the door while keeping a GOOD lock on the booze. We'd call the cops on our own party -- as soon as the cops get there the underage kids would BOLT! And we'd say we called the cops to get rid of them b/c they were not invited.

We kept the booze AND the money from the door from those fuckers (it was NOTHING to get 100 high school kids or more to pay every month) - LOL. Next month, we'd do the same thing - LOL.

Bouncer gets the money from you (and who knows how many others) then gets to throw you out on your fucking head and dot your eye for good measure. You get nothing in return - only if they would punch me in the face while handcuffed they'd be more famous than they wanted to be I can bet you that - underage or not. LOL

[Bajjani]

i would take it to court.

jury's almost always side with the wronged individual vs the evil corporate entity (opera in this case)

you WILL get paid, probably through out of court settlement - and bouncer will have to bounce the fuck out lol.

the underage and drinking thing isn't even an issue imo. talk to a real lawyer instead of these clowns.

So, curious? Are you a real lawyer? Probably not, so try not being a hypocrite, imo.

[The Ninja]

So, curious? Are you a real lawyer? Probably not, so try not being a hypocrite, imo.

Are you sure you used that word correctly?

[_Christian_]

Had something similar happen at Opera. Their bouncers are power tripping low life's who will pounce on any opportunity to fuck someone up. Like Frog said, the system between the club/bouncers/cops is corrupt.

I think whatever chance you had was to press charges immediately following the incident, the cop(s) knew this and that is why they gave you the ultimatum. Wherever this goes, I wish you the best of luck.

[jR1_kS14]

aren't both parties at fault?

bouncer sells underage 21+ band.

underage accepts knowing it's illegal

[MachNU]

Sorry but what ALOT of are missing is, he first has to PROVE IT! No evidence no case. Simple as that!

[SL33P3R]

Im over it

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

First, TYPING IN CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Please stop.

Comparing a walmart employee to a bouncer at a club is a huge difference. There are a lot of diff scenario's that could play out here.

Opera could never want this to go to court, they wouldn't want their name in the paper saying that one of their bouncers got caught contributing to minors and for assault against the same minor.

Opera could say take it to court, say that the kid was, while intoxicated, being disruptive and causing a problem. After being handcuffed he was struggling and KICKING at the cops, and that was the cause for your eye, was defense. It may not swing but I know in KY that if you kick at a cop and he slams your head into a hood, good luck pressing any charges. Its them vs an underage drinking.

He could take them to court, they try the above, and fail, and he gets money, fined for underage drinking, the bouncer gets fired in all scenarios, and he gets money.So WTF does that make you look? Holy fucking irony.

My Wal Mart story makes perfect fucking sense. Walmart employee beating you up is the same shit as an Opera employee beating you up. So you fucking tell me, what the fuck does Kentucky have to do with this shit? First of all, you have no idea what you're talking about. He didn't get caught for underage drinking. READ homeboy, READ !


-Bouncer sold him 21+ band.
-OP buys alcohol
-Girl takes a sip of his alcohol.
-Some bouncer sees it, and kicks them out.
-Dude gets put in handcuffs and gets beaten up.

As far as I know....the cops never took his BAC, correct? So therefor, OP can claim that he never took a sip of alcohol. He had just bought the alcohol and was just chillin when the girl took a sip.

How can they prove he was drunk when there was no written evidence of his blood alcohol level?

Basically, dude got harassed by the bigger power and abused for the hell of it.

OP has something here for sure.

[vinayak]

Well, I was at this club the other night, Yes Im underage. Im the bathroom this bouncer said he would sell me a 21+ band and 3 VIP bands, so i did.

This would be hard to prove that a bouncer sold you the bands in court. It could be argued that you found someone leaving and bought there bands from them. In which you knew you were in the wrong.



Im up in VIP and one of the girls im with takes a sip of my drink then they come and tell both of us we have to leave.

Staff member see you contributing to the delinquency of a minor and confronts you.


on the way to the stairs from VIP I said "I understand your on a powertrip" then the motherfucker pushes me down the stairs.

You start to get belligerent with a staff member and staff member knows you have been drinking and may become violent.


We get to the bottom and im looking around for him and he pushes me in my face (pussy), does it one more time and then I get swooped up by this big ass dude, thrown out this door onto a dumpster with my neck on the edge.

Staff member takes this as a I am about to get swung on and stops the threat. He does what ever he can to get you out of the club so you do not become a threat to other party goers.



Im now handcuffed by the bouncer and i cant breathe with my neck on the edge. So i say "I cant breathe homie" and he punches me in my face 3 times.

After getting thrown out you still try to charge the staff member so he does what he can to stop the threat once more.



HAHA, so now I have a black eye and some other various things. Cops talk to me and say if im pressing charges they are gonna take me to jail, and if im not they will let me go home, so I went home.


Lets see underage drinking, Public intox, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor are just three charges I see here. I am not a lawyer nor a officer of the law so I am not sure what all charges you could have been charged with. I am not trying to argue but I would let it slide. This is just how I see it.

Were your photos taken at the bar or once you got home? If when you got home I doubt they will hold any value. Anything could have happened to you once you left the club.


This is just what I can get from the story.

[MachNU]

Im over it

Sorry man for what happened to you. Shitty lesson to learn. :goodjob:

[T.C.]

It sucks that you were sold an 21+ band to later get kicked out and beat up. I think you've waited just a little to long to make anything out of it. With that being said why dont you and a group of your friends go back with some hidden cameras and try to catch the bouncers selling 21+ bands in the bathroom and buy one. Then go out to the bar and ask for a club soda with lime and drink half of it. All you have to do now is take a swig of mouthwash and act tipsy, not drunk. For even more of an effect you could brag loudly how you are'nt 21 and you just bought the bracelet in the bathroom from a bouncer. This will more than likely cause the bouncers to treat you the same way that they did before, as they have an notoriously bad reputation. Then contact all of the local news stations. Im not telling you to do this but, it would be awesome and karma is a bitch.

[umairejaz]

^Nice idea.

[b20vtecrr]

I 100 PERCENT AGREE WITH DR G35