Commerce Friday Night Drags: atlplayer, LSr-teg, any other NA cars

[Vteckidd]

Chunky and i plan on going up to Friday night drags over at commerce if you guys want to come out. Get a few "legal" runs in see what the CRX can do in the 1/4

I think we are gonna grab dinner at my friends mexican restaurant down the street then head over around 6.

[jerseyef9]

damn sound like fun

[SmackedInATL]

What ever came of your other callout thread? Nothing?

[NEMO]

What ever came of your other callout thread? Nothing?they had some friendly runs and i think of the ones that was out there that night atlplayerr had the fastest NA

[Vteckidd]

What ever came of your other callout thread? Nothing?
raced for 4 hours all night till 4 am

vids will be up tonight

[EL-CANGRI]

ill go i was there that nite when ya were racing:goodjob: sounds like fun going to the track on friday count me in

[TS240]

Im not NA but I'll still come out.

[EL-CANGRI]

Im not NA but I'll still come out.












i think its kooo man as long as we have alot of cars bro!!:goodjob:

[atlplayerr]

I would love to go but I have school too early sat and so I guess that's a Good excuse
Chunky and i plan on going up to Friday night drags over at commerce if you guys want to come out. Get a few "legal" runs in see what the CRX can do in the 1/4

I think we are gonna grab dinner at my friends mexican restaurant down the street then head over around 6.

[chunky]

I'll have to work on getting my battery cut-off installed. Guess I'll mess with it tonight since I'm skipping out on everything else in life today. lol.

[EL-CANGRI]

I would love to go but I have school too early sat and so I guess that's a Good excuse










come on atlplayerr lets go man commerce stops at 10:30-11 afta that u can go home and go to sleep for skoo:goodjob:

[eckok24]

i will be there.

[ls-r teg]

hmmm

[EL-CANGRI]

hmmm











what do u mean hmmmm ?:lmfao: lets go lsrteg

[ls-r teg]

lmao shut up

what do u mean hmmmm ?:lmfao: lets go lsrteg

[Jenson]

No kids this weekend, maybe I can sneak my cracked windshield through. And get that fn gasket!!!

[chunky]

No kids this weekend, maybe I can sneak my cracked windshield through. And get that fn gasket!!!
damnit. I forgot about cracked windshields. Mine is down near the wipers. I've never been hassled about it before. They usually deny me based on my relocated battery if anything.

[SP33D FREAK]

i say we do street runs again this weekend

[sleepys4]

I'm down for a little all motor match up!

[Jenson]

Mine was up near the top in plain sight but very small last time I went and they let me through. Since adding solid motor mounts it has spread across half the windshield though. I just remembered though, I need a helmet too, mine doesnt even have a rated # or something crazy old.

[Vteckidd]

Mine was up near the top in plain sight but very small last time I went and they let me through. Since adding solid motor mounts it has spread across half the windshield though. I just remembered though, I need a helmet too, mine doesnt even have a rated # or something crazy old.
you dont need a helmet unless you are faster than 12.00 :P

[Jenson]

When did they change it? Pretty sure its 12.99, either way I still need one. As soon as I pull up in that thing they ask me where my helmet is, I mean it sounds like its a 9 second car. I tried the "my buddy has one Im using" routine and they asked me to get him to come over...I was like ok Im just lazy its right here. I'll do some quick research

It wont run the ET on street tires but it'll mph, I hope. Thats all I want is to see a 118-120 mph trap speed. My 10 bolt doesnt like slicks!

[Vteckidd]

When did they change it? Pretty sure its 12.99, either way I still need one. As soon as I pull up in that thing they ask me where my helmet is, I mean it sounds like its a 9 second car. I tried the "my buddy has one Im using" routine and they asked me to get him to come over...I was like ok Im just lazy its right here. I'll do some quick research

It wont run the ET on street tires but it'll mph, I hope. Thats all I want is to see a 118-120 mph trap speed. My 10 bolt doesnt like slicks!
maybe it is 13.

[Jenson]

Yup, 13.99 or quicker.

Edit:The windshield is up to the Tech inspector and there are no set guidelines

[Turbodude06]

Yup, 13.99 or quicker.

Edit:The windshield is up to the Tech inspector and there are no set guidelines

:yes: I may go, if I can get off early enough... Oh and what are the rules on tires, mine a pretty bald, do they care about that????

[chunky]

Yup, 13.99 or quicker.

Edit:The windshield is up to the Tech inspector and there are no set guidelines
Yep, 13.99 is what I've always known it to be. I guess I'll bring mine along. I think you can have any ol DOT or Snell approved helmet & pass tech.

I don't usually get hassled about my windshield. I think they only care if it's in the line of sight of the driver and could cause blinding glare or if it's a cobweb type crack.

My main problem is going to be getting the battery killswitch done in time. I have a latching relay for the battery wire, but I need to find another 15amp latching relay for the ECU fuse so the engine shuts off along with the battery.

Anyone have any ideas on where I can find a latching relay with a 12V coil and contact rating of 15A @ 12V? Everything I've found so far is online. :(

[chunky]

:yes: I may go, if I can get off early enough... Oh and what are the rules on tires, mine a pretty bald, do they care about that????
as long as they're not visibly corded and they hold air. Worst I've ever seen them do is kick the tires.

[atlplayerr]

well i think u guys might be wrong if the rules are the same as silver dollar then its NOT based on your time only but MPH as well. If you do anything passed 100 MPH YOU NEED A HELMET
you dont need a helmet unless you are faster than 12.00 :P

[DarKStaR]

At SDR it varies, Ive made multiple sub 14 passes and only half of those they said i needed a helmet...I always brought one but never put it on till they said something. Just depends on who is working i guess.

[chunky]

http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/sportcompact/2008_SC_Rulebook.pdf

page 54 for helmet rules:


Drivers of all cars running 13.99 or quicker must use a helmet
meeting Snell K98, 2000, 2005 or SFI Spec 31.1A, 31.2A,
31.1/2005, 41.1A, 41.2A, or 41.1/2005.

Effective Jan. 1, 2008, full-face helmet mandatory for drivers of all
cars 9.99 or quicker. Goggles prohibited; visor mandatory. See
Class Requirements for additional requirements.

Drivers of cars running 7.49 or quicker must use a helmet meeting
Snell SA2000, SA2005 or SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, or 31.1/2005 Specs.
See Class Requirements.

All helmets must have the appropriate certification sticker affixed
inside the helmet.

They're typically not super strict about the certification of the helmet unless you're running really fast.

[Jenson]

Yea the guy there last time I went was either bustin my balls or thought my car was really fast or was new!!! The first time I've ever had to show my sticker on the helmet...which is so old the sticker either fell off or was never there. Ive had it for 15 years!

Chunky, try a local auto parts store, somewhere that has an NOS filling station or at least some sort of hot-rodding going on. IDK where you live anymore but Im sure Lawrenceville auto parts would have one, or a store like it.

[Turbodude06]

as long as they're not visibly corded and they hold air. Worst I've ever seen them do is kick the tires.

ok well thats good there not super bald, but there past the wear lines:goodjob:

[RotiEatter]

We've always used good old motorcycle helmets to run with. Never had an issue with that.

Damn, I haven't been to Atlanta dragway in a long time, haha. I miss the smell of burning rubber and race gas. :( fml.

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

We've always used good old motorcycle helmets to run with. Never had an issue with that.

Damn, I haven't been to Atlanta dragway in a long time, haha. I miss the smell of burning rubber and race gas. :( fml.

i think you should bring it out and take it down the strip one time!

[N/A EK]

i might go just to see what my new ride can do before any mods...

[chunky]

Dunno if I'll be able to get a relay in time. I'm going to look around tomorrow. If I can't find anything, I found what I need online.

To toggle power to the ECU:
Magnecraft 711XBXCL-12D 711 Impulse Sequencing Relay / DPDT, 12 Amp Rating (http://magnecraft.thomasnet.com/item/relays/relays-latching-sequencing/pn-3160?&plpver=10&origin=advsrch&by=prod&filter=0)

and I already have this to toggle the battery connection:
Painless Performance remote disconnect w/ latching solenoid #30206 (http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/largeview.php?SearchField=30206)

NHRA rules say that if the disconnect is a button switch, push turns off, pull turns on. I guess this technically not compliant, but I doubt they'll hassle me so long as it turns off with a push.

The advantage to this setup is that the only wiring I need to run outside the car is a pair of thin 16gauge wires. That allows me to build a panel for the switch that I can mount using the two license plate bolts. Which means I can put the switch back inside of the car when I'm done racing. :ninja:

Anyhow, even if I can't get this all setup, I'll roll out and try my luck. I have about a 30% success rate of sneaking past tech with my relocated battery.

[Vteckidd]

i told you man, im gonna mount a fake battery and terminals in the engine bay, they will never know the difference HAHA

[chunky]

i told you man, im gonna mount a fake battery and terminals in the engine bay, they will never know the difference HAHA

LOL. I would do the same except that my intake runs where the factory battery tray used to be.

Anyhow, I've been meaning to do this for awhile. I really should have a cutoff switch for safety. I also need to build an NHRA compliant battery box since the hatch area is technically part of the cabin. Usually they let that slide too as long as you've got your back seats & hatch cover on.

By the time I get all the BS I need to comply with battery relocation rules, I'm going to be right back up to what a stock battery weighs. Oh well, still worth it for me b/c it lets me run my intake the way I want.

[RotiEatter]

I believe I have a battery box that you can borrow if you want man. Just let me know.

[chunky]

I believe I have a battery box that you can borrow if you want man. Just let me know.

I have one, but it's for a regular sized battery & it's not NHRA compliant. I need one made to size for my 12lb battery.

[Jenson]

Why not just buy something like this:Jegs (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/10260K2/10002/-1)

I can very easily get someone here to make you a carbon box :goodjob: I dont know how much it'd be but it would be the same size as your battery. I dont know where you live anymore but Im sure lawerenceville auto parts or a store like it would carry what you need or Slack Auto parts in Gainseville

[chunky]

Why not just buy something like this:Jegs (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/10260K2/10002/-1)

I can very easily get someone here to make you a carbon box :goodjob: I dont know how much it'd be but it would be the same size as your battery. I dont know where you live anymore but Im sure lawerenceville auto parts or a store like it would carry what you need or Slack Auto parts in Gainseville

I have a box like that. Those aren't NHRA approved. The only plastic box that is NHRA approved is the Moroso one. Otherwise you have to make it out of a certain thickness steel or aluminum. I've been wanting to do an aluminum one for awhile.

[RotiEatter]

They won't let you run at Commerce with that?

I have a similar kind of box that Jenson posted up. My brother ran it in his CRX and we were able to run at Commerce on different occasions and never had an issue with the box. I don't think they enforce the battery box rules that strictly.

Chunky is scared of the 1320. :-p

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

and I already have this to toggle the battery connection:
Painless Performance remote disconnect w/ latching solenoid #30206 (http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/largeview.php?SearchField=30206)

NHRA rules say that if the disconnect is a button switch, push turns off, pull turns on. I guess this technically not compliant, but I doubt they'll hassle me so long as it turns off with a push.


so i cant use something like this?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/92600-92699/92688.gif

i still need to add a battery box though

[Vteckidd]

I have the summit relocation kit, its just a plastic box. Friday night drags they dont really care,

[Terror]

I may come and run 15's in the Mustang...... :(

[Jenson]

Yea my bro has the same plastic box and they didnt hassle him. He mounted it where the spare tire used to be. For Friday's I dont think they inspect it that closely, unless you dip into the 11's maybe. Man my buddie can whip up an Ally one for you in a days time. You boys still coming out? I cant find an FN helmet....my dad lost his.

[Vteckidd]

Jenson we got helmets covered. We are rolling out at 5

[chunky]

Dude, there must be something about my car. I was the 9th person in tonight, and the guy almost didn't let me run. He asked me to pop my hood and was like where's the battery? In the end, he let it slide for tonight, but was like I won't let you run next week w/o a cutoff.

Anyhow, it was good to beat on the motor a little bit. She ran like a champ. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to run any faster than when I was making only 179whp. I did trap a little higher though. Everyone was running pretty slow. I waxed a few mustangs and a GTO.

Next time, I gotta show up with DRs. I'm not going to get any faster at commerce running 195/60/15 tires. :lmao:

[TS240]

^It was good meeting you Chunky, and I agree 195's FTL! lol

[Vteckidd]

Yeah everyone ran slow, thats why we didnt take any videos haha. Having an NA honda without slicks is almost not worth racing.

[chunky]

Yeah everyone ran slow, thats why we didnt take any videos haha. Having an NA honda without slicks is almost not worth racing.

Well, I think 120deg IATs might have something to do with being slow today. With intake temps that high, my ignition gets pulled back to about 18-20deg.

[moms_car]

who had the best ET/mph....

[D3UC3S]

Ya, what'd the CRX run Mike?

[Vteckidd]

14.2@99 2.3 60ft no one was running good times

[ls-r teg]

how much hp/tq u makin? and what kinda tires?


14.2@99 2.3 60ft no one was running good times

[Vteckidd]

200whp drag radials . All the na cars were really slow no one could hook

[ls-r teg]

oh ok i hear yah when i was makin 190whp in the hatch i had a 2.2 60foot and ran 13.5@107 on neo gens so i would think u would have done way better than that in a 2000lbs crx

[ls-r teg]

u no racing my boy in th crx tho right?

[KevinT707]

oh ok i hear yah when i was makin 190whp in the hatch i had a 2.2 60foot and ran 13.5@107 on neo gens so i would think u would have done way better than that in a 2000lbs crx
Trapping 107 and making 190 WHP, hrmmmm ..

[T's EG]

that green eg hatch was pretty bad..IMPORT EXPERTS.. also that black hatch looked slick..haha..

[Vteckidd]

oh ok i hear yah when i was makin 190whp in the hatch i had a 2.2 60foot and ran 13.5@107 on neo gens so i would think u would have done way better than that in a 2000lbs crx
I don't know how you guys do it then.

13.5 with 190whp 2.2 60ft 107mph trap. Usually you can't trap that high with that crappy a 60ft.

If you watch ivans 13.2 run he dead hooks he's not spinning

[ls-r teg]

proooof and that was on the first set up

[ls-r teg]

11.9 with the more aggressive tune, 35 shot+ 22in slicks

[ls-r teg]

it was actually 195:gay: but whos counting


Trapping 107 and making 190 WHP, hrmmmm ..

[Vteckidd]

Not saying you're lieing just sayin that's movin. My car doesn't have that in her not on street tires maybe slicks. It's a 13.9 on a good day

[chunky]

Fastest I've ever run is 14.14s @ 102.4mph with a 2.36s 60ft. This was in the fall up at a dragstrip in Maryland (Cecil).

At commerce, the fastest I've ever run was a 14.48s @ 97.1mph with a 2.27s 60ft, but I was making only 179 whp at the time. That was back in September 2005. I had 195 tires that were of a slightly softer rubber than the 195 all seasons I had on Friday. I also had the back seats taken out for that run.

So you can imagine my disappointment at running 14.51s @ 99.8mph, with a 2.49 60ft while making almost 50hp more to the wheels. Even with tires + cooler weather, I just don't see my car dropping a full second down the 1/4.

[B18c1Turboed]

Not saying you're lieing just sayin that's movin. My car doesn't have that in her not on street tires maybe slicks. It's a 13.9 on a good day

MIke i can get you a set of slicks too try out, they 22x9x15 i think on bogart wheels. We where running them on the silver crx. Let me know...

[chunky]

that green eg hatch was pretty bad..IMPORT EXPERTS.. also that black hatch looked slick..haha..
I think the Import Experts guys were the fastest n/a hondas out there. Really nice guys too. :goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

Yeah import xpert had some nice clean egs. Let me borrow a Jack too to fix my shift linkage. Really nice guys!

[ls-r teg]

what kind numbers where hey running?

[tofu-eg]

what kind numbers where hey running?

high 12's on a limping motor..:goodjob:

[twisted_drifter]

2 week ago i seen the green eg from Import Experts run low 12's

[tofu-eg]

2 week ago i seen the green eg from Import Experts run low 12's

yea it did and that's the night i blew my motor..lol...

[T's EG]

i am the guy with the black eg. everything was fun and games. had at least 9 run that nite. my money was worth it.

who the guy with the ep3 k20 kool dude..

i talked to him but didnt ask for his screen name..

[Black R]

haha, well i pwn mike and chunky with a 14.0 at commerce in my ef. let me find the slips!

[D3UC3S]

14.2@99 2.3 60ft no one was running good times


Sucks to hear that...it'll be good to see what it does when the temp drops some.

[torqlswonder]

it was a pretty shitty night and it just kept getting worse and worse
i was running slicks and couldnt get a damn 60 ft better than 2.0...in a crx also

[chunky]

i am the guy with the black eg. everything was fun and games. had at least 9 run that nite. my money was worth it.

who the guy with the ep3 k20 kool dude..

i talked to him but didnt ask for his screen name..

Hey man, I had the black ep3. Always cool to meet some all motor Honda guys. :)

[chunky]

high 12's on a limping motor..:goodjob:

So how long until you build the bottom end on the motor that's in there now? :p

[tofu-eg]

So how long until you build the bottom end on the motor that's in there now? :p

that motor is for part out now but next session the new one will be up and running..it's just going to be NAsty..:crazy:

[Catnip]

Not saying you're lieing just sayin that's movin. My car doesn't have that in her not on street tires maybe slicks. It's a 13.9 on a good day


Not to call you out, question your Honda knowledge, etc, but my hatch ran a 13.7 @ 102mph on street tires and 13.50 on slicks with a weak launch and bad ignition components. It was a JDM GSR with a big tube header, throttle body, and sk2 intake manifold... untuned. I'm guessing 160whp (?) and it weighed 2050 pounds, granted it had a B16 tranny, but I'm assuming you kept the LSD B16 tranny as well.

I say easy 13.50 on street tires, 13.1 territory on slicks.

***edit-- Did you lower your front tire pressure to around 11-14psi?***

Those times, assuming driver mod... need someone to drive it? :ninja:

[DarKStaR]

Not to call you out, question your Honda knowledge, etc, but my hatch ran a 13.7 @ 102mph on street tires and 13.50 on slicks with a weak launch and bad ignition components. It was a JDM GSR with a big tube header, throttle body, and sk2 intake manifold... untuned. I'm guessing 160whp (?) and it weighed 2050 pounds, granted it had a B16 tranny, but I'm assuming you kept the LSD B16 tranny as well.

I say easy 13.50 on street tires, 13.1 territory on slicks.

***edit-- Did you lower your front tire pressure to around 11-14psi?***

Those times, assuming driver mod... need someone to drive it? :ninja:

Indeed, and my full weight integra with 166whp went 13.9@100 on street tires....and with 175whp went 13.6 on slicks bogging..BAD.

[Vteckidd]

I admit im not a track driver at all, just dont have a lot of experience. Ive been to the track maybe 4 times and driven. I was always a street racer. The track is pretty humbling.

Johnzm drove my car twice and hes a good driver. On street tires i dont see it running faster than a 13.9 on a goodday, just my opinion.

Slicks, i think its a mid 13 second car at best. My car is a 90HF which puts i around 2100lbs from the factory IIRC. So its around 2300 with me in it.

Im gonna wait till it gets cooler before i go back

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

13.9@103 @ 2495 2.3 60' w/o me streets tires. :D
to bad i cant get the new setup and chassis on the road yet though

[KevinT707]

it was actually 195:gay: but whos counting
Goodness, good job then dude :goodjob:

[40th GT]

Dude, there must be something about my car. I was the 9th person in tonight, and the guy almost didn't let me run. He asked me to pop my hood and was like where's the battery? In the end, he let it slide for tonight, but was like I won't let you run next week w/o a cutoff.

Anyhow, it was good to beat on the motor a little bit. She ran like a champ. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to run any faster than when I was making only 179whp. I did trap a little higher though. Everyone was running pretty slow. I waxed a few mustangs and a GTO.

Next time, I gotta show up with DRs. I'm not going to get any faster at commerce running 195/60/15 tires. :lmao:
Hey buddy what car were you driving?
One of those Mustangs you beat was probably mine lol. It was my first time out that Friday.

[chunky]

Hey buddy what car were you driving?
One of those Mustangs you beat was probably mine lol. It was my first time out that Friday.

Black civic si, the 2002 hatchback style. I think I ran against you twice back to back. You definitely gotta work on those 60ft times man. There's no excuse for 60fting slower than an FWD car. Did you drop your tire pressure at all? What were you launching at?

I know a new Mustang GT *should* be in the 13.x range with a 100+mph trap according to the magazine times. Obviously that's not going to be the norm at Commerce, but I'm sure your car is capable of going a lot faster than you were running that night. All you need is more seat time.

[40th GT]

Yeah I remember you. You're the first person I raced.
And I definitely need more seat time. My best 60s were in the low 2.3s and by my 10th run I finally got a 14.618.
My tire pressures were at 32 and I did a 3k rpm clutch drop. I also had trouble getting into 2nd.
The fact that I was nervous didn't help.

I don't completely suck at life though b/c I did beat a MkIII Supra Turbo from 0-50. :D

You left pretty early?

[chunky]

Yeah I remember you. You're the first person I raced.
And I definitely need more seat time. My best 60s were in the low 2.3s and by my 10th run I finally got a 14.618.
My tire pressures were at 32 and I did a 3k rpm clutch drop. I also had trouble getting into 2nd.
The fact that I was nervous didn't help.

I don't completely suck at life though b/c I did beat a MkIII Supra Turbo from 0-50. :D

You left pretty early?

What was the trap speed on that 14.618?

Next time you go, drop your rear tires to 25psi to start. Just make sure you slow down to make the turn out of the lanes. I'm not sure how low you can go, but on my car I go down to 20 with no problem, and i'll try a couple psi lower to see if it helps, but 20 is usually what my tires like.

Was it the white MKIII? I was up against him on my last run, but I let off halfway down b/c I knew it was going to be a shitty time (3.0x 60ft) and my engine was was pretty hot at that point. He trapped 105 that run but it was only a 14.5.

I got there early, had 9 pulls total. You were #6 & 7. I was going to run again after my engine got a chance to cool off, but it sat for an hour and was still hot. So I just left when everyone I rolled up with went to get food.

[40th GT]

I trapped at 97.xx.

Yeah the Mustang guys were telling me the same thing. I'm also going to lose the subwoofer whenever I go again.

No, the one I beat was a random one off the street.
I raced the white one as well though. I beat him on the 60' but by the time I got to the 1000' he passed me.

And thanks for the advice. Reps to you.

[Catnip]

I admit im not a track driver at all, just dont have a lot of experience. Ive been to the track maybe 4 times and driven. I was always a street racer. The track is pretty humbling.

Johnzm drove my car twice and hes a good driver. On street tires i dont see it running faster than a 13.9 on a goodday, just my opinion.

Slicks, i think its a mid 13 second car at best. My car is a 90HF which puts i around 2100lbs from the factory IIRC. So its around 2300 with me in it.

Im gonna wait till it gets cooler before i go back


Seriously man, the shifting can change your 1/4 mile time by a full second. By just setting the tire pressure on hondas, you can generally get decent traction... which would mean a better launch. Better launch can change your time by the same amount if it's just not launching. The hatch with me was right over 2200 and yours is almost the same with a type r. I was on some shitty ass yokohamas with that 13.7.

Either way, take it back out, play with the tire pressure, launching, shifting, etc. See what she'll do. I'd love to see a 13.1-13.3 from it.

[Vteckidd]

Seriously man, the shifting can change your 1/4 mile time by a full second. By just setting the tire pressure on hondas, you can generally get decent traction... which would mean a better launch. Better launch can change your time by the same amount if it's just not launching. The hatch with me was right over 2200 and yours is almost the same with a type r. I was on some shitty ass yokohamas with that 13.7.

Either way, take it back out, play with the tire pressure, launching, shifting, etc. See what she'll do. I'd love to see a 13.1-13.3 from it.
Tire pressure was 15psi on Drag Radials, launching at 4000-4500 RPMs, it WOULD NOT hook. It would spin through second. The MPH is what concerns me, my old CRX trapped 101-102mph consistently, this car never trapped higher than 99mph.

My shifts are quick enough, and im consistent, so i dont think thats the problem.

COmmerce is a notoriously slow track. Ive seen guys drop .2-.3 just by running at Silver Dollar or Steele.

Amazing was the shitty 60ft times EVERYONE was having.

[Catnip]

Tire pressure was 15psi on Drag Radials, launching at 4000-4500 RPMs, it WOULD NOT hook. It would spin through second. The MPH is what concerns me, my old CRX trapped 101-102mph consistently, this car never trapped higher than 99mph.

My shifts are quick enough, and im consistent, so i dont think thats the problem.

COmmerce is a notoriously slow track. Ive seen guys drop .2-.3 just by running at Silver Dollar or Steele.

Amazing was the shitty 60ft times EVERYONE was having.

Bring it out to SDR.

PS. The 13.50 was at 92mph, you still have hope :D

[Jenson]

Johnzm drove my car twice and hes a good driver.





:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

My hatch went 13.98 @ 97mph, stock gsr swap, somewhere in the 23xxlb race weight, at commerce, on street tyres(stock CX 13's). And that was with 158 to the ground! I did have a "custom" ram air intake, maybe thats all you need.

I'd think your car should easily be in the mid to low 13's on slicks, at SDR, maybe even 12's. 15psi on the radials is way to much...try 5psi. After you do the burnout they will go up so on every pass you have to lower them again. I used to run my BFG's at 3-5psi, slicks too. I'd actually start at 1-2 psi for the first run and they'd be near 3-5 after the first run. Pump up the rear tyres to the max psi, helps anti squat and less rolling resistance.

Im kinda glad I didnt make it. Sounds like I would have had trouble getting 3rd to hook up :eek: I'll wait for the cold air just so I can go run a number again.

[chunky]

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

My hatch went 13.98 @ 97mph, stock gsr swap, somewhere in the 23xxlb race weight, at commerce, on street tyres(stock CX 13's). And that was with 158 to the ground! I did have a "custom" ram air intake, maybe thats all you need.

I'd think your car should easily be in the mid to low 13's on slicks, at SDR, maybe even 12's. 15psi on the radials is way to much...try 5psi. After you do the burnout they will go up so on every pass you have to lower them again. I used to run my BFG's at 3-5psi, slicks too. I'd actually start at 1-2 psi for the first run and they'd be near 3-5 after the first run. Pump up the rear tyres to the max psi, helps anti squat and less rolling resistance.

Im kinda glad I didnt make it. Sounds like I would have had trouble getting 3rd to hook up :eek: I'll wait for the cold air just so I can go run a number again.

It was a slow night, but I'm glad I went. I doubt anyone set any personal records last Friday. However, it was worth my 20 bucks b/c I got to pop off a few back to back runs to at least get some idea of how to get my car out of the hole consistently. I definitely need better rubber before I go again though.

[Jenson]

I was supposed to get off work at 12, find a helmet, then go home and bolt on the radials...but I left at 6:30. Couldnt get a helmet and dang sure would have been on street tyres. I'll be there with the civic soon though...

[Catnip]

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

My hatch went 13.98 @ 97mph, stock gsr swap, somewhere in the 23xxlb race weight, at commerce, on street tyres(stock CX 13's). And that was with 158 to the ground! I did have a "custom" ram air intake, maybe thats all you need.

I'd think your car should easily be in the mid to low 13's on slicks, at SDR, maybe even 12's. 15psi on the radials is way to much...try 5psi. After you do the burnout they will go up so on every pass you have to lower them again. I used to run my BFG's at 3-5psi, slicks too. I'd actually start at 1-2 psi for the first run and they'd be near 3-5 after the first run. Pump up the rear tyres to the max psi, helps anti squat and less rolling resistance.

Im kinda glad I didnt make it. Sounds like I would have had trouble getting 3rd to hook up :eek: I'll wait for the cold air just so I can go run a number again.

I agree.
I've never used radials, you really run them that low? I ran regular street tires at around 10-11psi, they hooked decent, but nothing compared to slicks.

[KevinT707]

Tire pressure was 15psi on Drag Radials, launching at 4000-4500 RPMs, it WOULD NOT hook. It would spin through second. The MPH is what concerns me, my old CRX trapped 101-102mph consistently, this car never trapped higher than 99mph.

My shifts are quick enough, and im consistent, so i dont think thats the problem.

COmmerce is a notoriously slow track. Ive seen guys drop .2-.3 just by running at Silver Dollar or Steele.

Amazing was the shitty 60ft times EVERYONE was having.
I've ran at Commerce plenty of times, and at SDR countless times. From my personal experience my E/Ts from Commerce were definitely a lot slower than SDR. My best time at Commerce (14.9?) is still slower than my avg slower time at SDR (14.7-14.8). So don't feel bad, I think you'd run a 13.9-14.0 at SDR forsure.

[Catnip]

I've ran at Commerce plenty of times, and at SDR countless times. From my personal experience my E/Ts from Commerce were definitely a lot slower than SDR. My best time at Commerce (14.9?) is still slower than my avg slower time at SDR (14.7-14.8). So don't feel bad, I think you'd run a 13.9-14.0 at SDR forsure.

No offense, but you're high if you think an ITR w/B16 tranny in a CRX is only going to put down a 13.9/14.0.

If the motor isn't a complete piece of shit and the tranny will shift without grinding, 13.9 would be EASY.

[Vteckidd]

we'll see, im gonna go back after i get some stuff squared away on it. Need some brakes and traction bars first

[Jenson]

I agree.
I've never used radials, you really run them that low? I ran regular street tires at around 10-11psi, they hooked decent, but nothing compared to slicks.

Of course, I drove around on the street with 15psi on radials, anything less was a bit dodgey in corners. If it looks like a flat tire before you hit the water box your doing it right :goodjob: Here's a great example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-LKhiYYIY&feature=related

I know its not technically "right" but it always worked for me to run around 3-5 psi. More psi means the air is pushing on the sidewall trying to hold it up giving it less flexing/wrinkle capability and you are relying on the compound of the rubber alone. Running lower pressure means the sidewall kinda works like a wrinkle wall and offers the more contact patch. Thats my theory at least.


Mike, have you weighed the car? Maybe it has a large chunk of lead in the gas tank. What was your 60' time? Im guessing 2.4-2.5 range.

[Catnip]

Of course, I drove around on the street with 15psi on radials, anything less was a bit dodgey in corners. If it looks like a flat tire before you hit the water box your doing it right :goodjob: Here's a great example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-LKhiYYIY&feature=related

I know its not technically "right" but it always worked for me to run around 3-5 psi. More psi means the air is pushing on the sidewall trying to hold it up giving it less flexing/wrinkle capability and you are relying on the compound of the rubber alone. Running lower pressure means the sidewall kinda works like a wrinkle wall and offers the more contact patch. Thats my theory at least.


Mike, have you weighed the car? Maybe it has a large chunk of lead in the gas tank. What was your 60' time? Im guessing 2.4-2.5 range.


Take the car and do a launch on some clean, light colored cement... it'll show which parts of the tire are making contact with the ground ;)

[Vteckidd]

Never weighed it fastest 60 ft was a 2.2

[Vteckidd]

Once I get the valve train In and I can rev to 9500-10000 I'll feel a lot better an not have to shift to 4th

[dirk-diggler]

14.2@99 2.3 60ft no one was running good timesi ran da same with a stock b20 hatch on street tires .