want to propose an Idea to the awesome photographers of IA

[blacknightteg]

alright so i am really want to getting back into using my XS lot. i havent been able to do it as of late as i just havent had the drive a guess you could say. Anyways, i am really wanting to get back into it and try to get on a level as many others have gotten to on this site, which i originally intended to do. Anyway's here is my idea:


I know that many of the photographers on IA have thoughts and opinions on what is a good photo and what is not, how to take a good photo and how to not take a good photo. What I think should be done is a tutorial from one if not many of you guys. I think it may benefit many of the people on here who try and take photos and always ask for constructive criticism. Explain DOF (depth of Feild), Correct Ratio's, Shutter Speeds, etc.

I know that when i was taking picturs, they werent bad, but i know that could be damn better. The biggest thing i want to figure out is how to take rolling shots and or shots of cars. I will be attending the Petite Le Mans and i want to be able to take picturs when there at the hairpin and what have you.

so thats my idea, ill even sticky it so people will havea reference to go to. after all this site is supposed to be a community and a plce where people can help one another out and share idea's and express the opinions, so i just think it would be a good idea.

[RL...]

alright so i am really want to getting back into using my XS lot. i havent been able to do it as of late as i just havent had the drive a guess you could say. Anyways, i am really wanting to get back into it and try to get on a level as many others have gotten to on this site, which i originally intended to do. Anyway's here is my idea:


I know that many of the photographers on IA have thoughts and opinions on what is a good photo and what is not, how to take a good photo and how to not take a good photo. What I think should be done is a tutorial from one if not many of you guys. I think it may benefit many of the people on here who try and take photos and always ask for constructive criticism. Explain DOF (depth of Feild), Correct Ratio's, Shutter Speeds, etc.

I know that when i was taking picturs, they werent bad, but i know that could be damn better. The biggest thing i want to figure out is how to take rolling shots and or shots of cars. I will be attending the Petite Le Mans and i want to be able to take picturs when there at the hairpin and what have you.

so thats my idea, ill even sticky it so people will havea reference to go to. after all this site is supposed to be a community and a plce where people can help one another out and share idea's and express the opinions, so i just think it would be a good idea.

Photography is art, and art is something is better learned from experience and by doing it. Learning about shutter speed and ratios and what not can be googled, don't be lazy. Basically if you want to get better, take more pics and experiment with different settings and photoshop. If you want to get into it get into it....With photography there is no one set way to take a good picture, there are so many variables and adjustments and setting you have to go with what you feel is right for the moment

Soon I plan on buying a canon csi within the next few weeks and I'm going to delve into photography too!

[blacknightteg]

stfu nutsack. i was saying posting a tutorial will help people starting out. shouldnt you still be banned?

[A.A]

If you are taking pictures of moving cars get used to the pan shot movement if you have a steady hand (or a good fluid motion tripod). Having a longer lens (70-200mm) in this situation helps. If the car is moving fast you can get some pretty good pan shots at 1/30 or so (turn off IS if you have it) play around with your shutter speed (TV mode) to get the background motion blur to where you want it while panning on the subject (and make sure the subject is not coming or going out of your DOF).

If you want a shot where the car looks like it is just standing still just crank up your shutter speed to freeze everything and hope you have enough light (I consider these shots boring).

Which brings me to your ability to gather light. If you are shooting high shutter speeds and have low light you will need the equipment for the job. "Fast Glass" is expensive. Look for a zoom lens that has a constant f2.8 through its focal range. These lenses also do great work for portraits. If you are in soso light turn your camera to av and set your camera to f2.8 and if needed turn up your ISO to ramp up your shutter speeds and hope you have enough light for sutable shutter speeds.

The ISO now days is your digital camera sesnor's compensation to gather light. Film back in the day had a set ISO per role, these days you can adjust your camera's sensitivity to light on the fly. With film if it was 100 ISO it recorded light slower over less sensitive particles on the actual film resulting in a smooth colorful image. If it was higher ISO film these particles were more sensitive to light and recorded it faster (resulting in higher shutter speed) and grainier. Newer cameras are getting better with the high ISO management: my xti sucks balls at 1600 while my xsi only sucks at 1600... my xsi at 800 ISO is comperable to my xti at 400 ISO. Soon we will have cameras that will have high enough ISO management that we can manage with slower, less expensive, glass and still get a crisp smooth shot... but that slower glass will have less ability to have a narow DOF because of its lack of a large aperature (f/stop).

As a rule, the lower your f/stop is (wider aperture) the narrower your Depth Of Field (DOF) will be (and the faster your possible shutter speed can be). Get a 50mm f1.8 lens for your DSLR and play with it (100 bucks or so), you will have fun. Tighten up that aperature f/22 or so and it will boaden your DOF to bring almost everything into the image (you will most likely need a tripod because at f/22 you will have long shutter speeds).

Image quality tends to drop off at the far ends of a lenses focal distance and aperature. Some lenses can shoot well at wide open (smaller f/stop) but most get sharper somewhere in the middle. Example: My canon 50mm can shoot all the way down to f1.8 but the images are not exact in color and sharpness until I "stop it down" to f/2.8. My 17-70mm shoots the sharpest at f/5.6 and not above f/16 and at 17mm it has barrell distortion.

That explaines some of the mechanics of why your camera opperates the way it does. Get out there and shoot in AV and TV mode! See what your camera gives you and you can figure out why from the settings display in your image.

I try to break the rules everyday I am out there with my camera and see what it throws back at me. I pay attention to the suns position and play on it sometimes shooting directly into the sun with a fill flash.

Try using a tripod for EVERYTHING... some photographers use tripods all the time for everything... no joke... you might pick up the same habit.

[blacknightteg]

If you are taking pictures of moving cars get used to the pan shot movement if you have a steady hand (or a good fluid motion tripod). Having a longer lens (70-200mm) in this situation helps. If the car is moving fast you can get some pretty good pan shots at 1/30 or so (turn off IS if you have it) play around with your shutter speed (TV mode) to get the background motion blur to where you want it while panning on the subject (and make sure the subject is not coming or going out of your DOF).

If you want a shot where the car looks like it is just standing still just crank up your shutter speed to freeze everything and hope you have enough light (I consider these shots boring).

Which brings me to your ability to gather light. If you are shooting high shutter speeds and have low light you will need the equipment for the job. "Fast Glass" is expensive. Look for a zoom lens that has a constant f2.8 through its focal range. These lenses also do great work for portraits. If you are in soso light turn your camera to av and set your camera to f2.8 and if needed turn up your ISO to ramp up your shutter speeds and hope you have enough light for sutable shutter speeds.

The ISO now days is your digital camera sesnor's compensation to gather light. Film back in the day had a set ISO per role, these days you can adjust your camera's sensitivity to light on the fly. With film if it was 100 ISO it recorded light slower over less sensitive particles on the actual film resulting in a smooth colorful image. If it was higher ISO film these particles were more sensitive to light and recorded it faster (resulting in higher shutter speed) and grainier. Newer cameras are getting better with the high ISO management: my xti sucks balls at 1600 while my xsi only sucks at 1600... my xsi at 800 ISO is comperable to my xti at 400 ISO. Soon we will have cameras that will have high enough ISO management that we can manage with slower, less expensive, glass and still get a crisp smooth shot... but that slower glass will have less ability to have a narow DOF because of its lack of a large aperature (f/stop).

As a rule, the lower your f/stop is (wider aperture) the narrower your Depth Of Field (DOF) will be (and the faster your possible shutter speed can be). Get a 50mm f1.8 lens for your DSLR and play with it (100 bucks or so), you will have fun. Tighten up that aperature f/22 or so and it will boaden your DOF to bring almost everything into the image (you will most likely need a tripod because at f/22 you will have long shutter speeds).

Image quality tends to drop off at the far ends of a lenses focal distance and aperature. Some lenses can shoot well at wide open (smaller f/stop) but most get sharper somewhere in the middle. Example: My canon 50mm can shoot all the way down to f1.8 but the images are not exact in color and sharpness until I "stop it down" to f/2.8. My 17-70mm shoots the sharpest at f/5.6 and not above f/16 and at 17mm it has barrell distortion.

That explaines some of the mechanics of why your camera opperates the way it does. Get out there and shoot in AV and TV mode! See what your camera gives you and you can figure out why from the settings display in your image.

I try to break the rules everyday I am out there with my camera and see what it throws back at me. I pay attention to the suns position and play on it sometimes shooting directly into the sun with a fill flash.

Try using a tripod for EVERYTHING... some photographers use tripods all the time for everything... no joke... you might pick up the same habit.

thanks man. i have been meaning to get a tripod and a new lense but i havent had the time to do so let alone the money. having two expensive hobbies, cars and photography, is not the easiest!

[PURP]

alright so i am really want to getting back into using my XS lot. i havent been able to do it as of late as i just havent had the drive a guess you could say. Anyways, i am really wanting to get back into it and try to get on a level as many others have gotten to on this site, which i originally intended to do. Anyway's here is my idea:


I know that many of the photographers on IA have thoughts and opinions on what is a good photo and what is not, how to take a good photo and how to not take a good photo. What I think should be done is a tutorial from one if not many of you guys. I think it may benefit many of the people on here who try and take photos and always ask for constructive criticism. Explain DOF (depth of Feild), Correct Ratio's, Shutter Speeds, etc.

I know that when i was taking picturs, they werent bad, but i know that could be damn better. The biggest thing i want to figure out is how to take rolling shots and or shots of cars. I will be attending the Petite Le Mans and i want to be able to take picturs when there at the hairpin and what have you.

so thats my idea, ill even sticky it so people will havea reference to go to. after all this site is supposed to be a community and a plce where people can help one another out and share idea's and express the opinions, so i just think it would be a good idea.

:english:

[james]

all i have to say is that this is an automotive forum. I would take your post over to a photography forum. you will undoubtedly learn more.

[blacknightteg]

i trying to live up to what this sight was trying to evolve into, a LIFESTYLE forum, not just a car forum.

[james]

i trying to live up to what this sight was trying to evolve into, a LIFESTYLE forum, not just a car forum.


alright, well, good luck then .

[Tarzanman]

There are plenty of tutorials to be found on the net for just about anything.

The earlier posters had good advice though.... join a photography forum and then go out and practice by taking photos and reviewing the results.

The knowledge&experience sticks better when you overexpose with too large an aperture or blur the far end of your subject as opposed to just reading about the sunny 16 rule or circle of confusion/DOF on wikipedia.

[.blank cd]

You trying to do something like this??

http://geoffdennis.smugmug.com/photos/533053168_ywBpT-XL.jpg

[james]

You trying to do something like this??

http://geoffdennis.smugmug.com/photos/533053168_ywBpT-XL.jpg


from the original post, it seems like the author doesn't know what shutter speed, aperture, or ISO is or how they correlate with one another.

[.blank cd]

ahh.

[RL...]

from the original post, it seems like the author doesn't know what shutter speed, aperture, or ISO is or how they correlate with one another.

pretty much. I think he just needs to spend some time reading about the basics online.

[RL...]

pic of s15 is nice!

[.blank cd]

thanks :goodjob:

[A.A]

pretty much. I think he just needs to spend some time reading about the basics online.

x2 and getting out there to play with the camera to learn a little something.

pan shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/kurtscarpics/drifte.jpg