TRUE CUSTOMIZATION......WHEN WILL IT BEGIN AGAIN?

[blacknightteg]

so this goes kinda along with the "who copied who" thread. i am sitting here thinking to myself, now i know this has been gone over before, when will we as a culture actually get back into doing shit for ourselves and not doing it based on other peoples opinions again? im taking body kits, crazy paint jobs, interiors gone wild etc. it just seems like that will never happen again? why not? are people in the "scene" just to scared to get rejected? seems to me that the cars that get rejected by a lot of other people usually get the most attention right? so why do we seriously have to do it based on other peoples opinions?


Now dont get me wrong i am guilty myself of clowning and criticizing many things that have been posted up on this site, and thats wrong. but i have come to learn to accept other peoples thoughts and ideas as a good thing and as their own. I dont really judge anymore, and as a matter of fact why should anyone else think someone elses car is stupid. i mean doesnt hating the car actually give it more attention then having everyone actually like the car and then it dying out of attention(if that makes sense).


I am sure it will never be the same as it once was and if it ever gets close to that way it will barely resemble the way the culture was 10 years ago. but does it hurt to like someones shit just cars they put the time and effort into making it what they wanted out of their car, their canvas, their joy? i think not.



just my :2cents:

[BKgen®]

Shouldn't this be in a car section? :thinking:

[Arm&hammer]

It's because if you do something different your car is rice.

[J-ROCK]

nice right up

[blacknightteg]

Shouldn't this be in a car section? :thinking:


fuck you banana. but yes your right, so i moved it. but i figure a lot of people would see it there as well. so suck it hoe haha.





















back on topic.

[BKgen®]

nice right up


WRITE



Jesus Christ....

[blacknightteg]

It's because if you do something different your car is rice.




fuck that term, that term has gotten way the fuck out of context. RICE is just a characterization of all IMPORT cars that was started by Domestics. then stupid ass kids who were modding Imports werent liking people and thats were they started turning around the term on their own and clowning on things that werent "cool" too them.

[Arm&hammer]

Rice is everything that doesn't have a clean paint job and lip with stock rims.
But seriously why the hell does that stop people from doing what they want with a car.

[Vteckidd]

when people stop caring about what their car looks like and get back into performance.

When people stop giving a shit about what other people think

When this current batch of bitch ass whiny kids move on and get replaced by people that actually can think for themselves

yeah after all that happens, shit will change, dont hold your breath

[blacknightteg]

because people are scared to be different. i think that its they feel that if they different in their ideals when it comes to modding that everyone will look down upon them. and for the most part its pathetically true. this "scene" over the past 10 years has been fucking pathetic. everyone has grown to one type of car look. and for the love of god the "jdm" look so so manufactured its not even funny. clean and stock looking with slammed cars and certain wheels is NOT JDM. your not JDM if you arent right hand drive to me.

i am getting so sick of people calling shit rice when it clearely looks done, and to the owners liking. its like me calling a ferrari or lambo rice because there are some wacky rims on there. do YOU have the money that those rims probably cost? let alone the car, and is it YOUR car? no. so STFU

[blacknightteg]

when people stop caring about what their car looks like and get back into performance.

When people stop giving a shit about what other people think

When this current batch of bitch ass whiny kids move on and get replaced by people that actually can think for themselves

yeah after all that happens, shit will change, dont hold your breath


my breath has done been long let out.

[PURP]

you can blame it all on ebay and the sellers of the almighty JDM parts

[JITB]

Its so much easier when u just do what u want!

[Vteckidd]

Ive always said its those douchebags that put Louie Vitton on their 98 Integra door panels with some old ass wheels with a paint job and think their car is some ode to the car gods.

Remember when we used to make fun of the DONK guys with the LV interiors and Gucci interiors LOL the honda guys are doing the same thing now.

There is this crowd of homos that hangs out at Starbucks on barret every weekend that all they have is a bunch of slow ass cars with stupid offsets and covered bumpers/lips that think they are gods gift to the import world. They are posers.

But they are the majority of the scene kids right now. so until they either A) Die a horrible death B) grow up and move on we will be stuck with it

[PURP]

Its so much easier when u just do what u want!
Yes it is... I shaved my front bumper, put a gauge in my tail light, etc.. Just to seperate myself from the crowd, that lil bit more.

[Vteckidd]

I dont hate on the JDM stuff either, i mean its cool whatever. I love the look of a stock hatch with a DECENT drop and black slipstreams. Its simple, its nice, its perfect.

What i HATE is this stupid fucking trend of low offset wheels sticking out like a lowrider tucking 15in rims slammed on the ground with no suspension travel and retarded negative camber. Then they do some half ass wire tuck on a 200k mile LS motor and think its some marvel to oooooo and ahhhhhhh at.

[PURP]

I dont hate on the JDM stuff either, i mean its cool whatever. I love the look of a stock hatch with a DECENT drop and black slipstreams. Its simple, its nice, its perfect.

What i HATE is this stupid fucking trend of low offset wheels sticking out like a lowrider tucking 15in rims slammed on the ground with no suspension travel and retarded negative camber. Then they do some half ass wire tuck on a 200k mile LS motor and think its some marvel to oooooo and ahhhhhhh at.

I really couldn't agree more. Atleast build your car for a purpose, besides parking lot pimping.

EDIT.. yes I do have a wire tuck and a shaved and tucked bay painted pearl purple. But I also built my car for tracks.

[JITB]

Yes it is... I shaved my front bumper, put a gauge in my tail light, etc.. Just to seperate myself from the crowd, that lil bit more.


I dont have to seperate...ive never had a crowd... lol


it all begins with style. i went with a bigger car, b/c i dont have the time to go fast, and i like to cruise..and play the part. And i love it, i dont remember whens the lat time i drove over 70...lol

[PURP]

I dont have to seperate...ive never had a crowd... lol


it all begins with style. i went with a bigger car, b/c i dont have the time to go fast, and i like to cruise..and play the part. And i love it, i dont remember whens the lat time i drove over 70...lol

Gramps..lulz

[JITB]

I dont hate on the JDM stuff either, i mean its cool whatever. I love the look of a stock hatch with a DECENT drop and black slipstreams. Its simple, its nice, its perfect.

What i HATE is this stupid fucking trend of low offset wheels sticking out like a lowrider tucking 15in rims slammed on the ground with no suspension travel and retarded negative camber. Then they do some half ass wire tuck on a 200k mile LS motor and think its some marvel to oooooo and ahhhhhhh at.
:eek:

its gettin personal!!!!

[Vteckidd]

I really couldn't agree more. Atleast build your car for a purpose, besides parking lot pimping.

EDIT.. yes I do have a wire tuck and a shaved and tucked bay painted pearl purple. But I also built my car for tracks.
HAHA but you arent a douche bag with a chip on your shoulder. your car is different with the front bumper and stuff. I mean yeah theres a lot of other ones LIKE it but i dig the brake setup thats neat.

But you arent some JDM elitist either. You cool peeps :)

[Bus Driver J]

Dude, Im 100% behind you but dont count on it changing any time soon (or ever). The car scene is just like ANY "scene", the cool/popular people choose what the next hype is and the little sheep follow. Plain and simple. If the cool people want body kits, the sheep get the knockoff body kits. If the cool people want JDM cars, the sheep will have wannabe JDM cars. If the cool people want VIP, the sheep will try their damnedest to VIP their Accord.

Its never gonna stop. If you build what you want then you will be happy. If you build what "they" want, no one will be happy. They will just look at it and comment on your pathetic attempt.

My next project is gonna bring it back to basics. Im bringing back 10 years ago but still keeping this years edge. Im making it what I want and solely what I want. Sure Ill get rice comments but I dont give a fuck. I know Ill have put my own thought and time into it instead of whatever a forum or magazine says.

Ive only seen a good handful of people on this site keep it how they want it and they know who they are. They use their own brain and make it something they love in the end. They get :cheers: from me.

[Vteckidd]

Im going old school again too, im going back to my roots with this crx i have now. Simple, plain, fast, reliable, 10,000 rpms

[PURP]

HAHA but you arent a douche bag with a chip on your shoulder. your car is different with the front bumper and stuff. I mean yeah theres a lot of other ones LIKE it but i dig the brake setup thats neat.

But you arent some JDM elitist either. You cool peeps :)

Why thank you sir. You're not bad yourself..haha

[PURP]

Ive only seen a good handful of people on this site keep it how they want it and they know who they are. They use their own brain and make it something they love in the end. They get :cheers: from me.

So, when can I expect my :cheers: .. I drink a lot tho, make sure you put that into consideration...lolol

[Drummerboy]

i agree, to a point. I think you should "do what you do" and make it your own. But I think its the fact that everyone tries comparing their cars to each other and egotistical people have started trying to out do each other. So in the process, they've become more and more alike so that they can be compared.

for example, it'd be hard to take a very nicely modded, lowered coupe and compare it to a giant jacked up 4x4 covered in mud. or to a dub on 24". know what i mean?

I think show cars are cool, as long as they claim to be show cars, and not high preformance cars. and vice versa.

[Bus Driver J]

So, when can I expect my :cheers: .. I drink a lot tho, make sure you put that into consideration...lolol
You and me both my friend, we'll need a bigger cooler next time, lol.

[PURP]

i agree, to a point. I think you should "do what you do" and make it your own. But I think its the fact that everyone tries comparing their cars to each other and egotistical people have started trying to out do each other. So in the process, they've become more and more alike so that they can be compared.

for example, it'd be hard to take a very nicely modded, lowered coupe and compare it to a giant jacked up 4x4 covered in mud. or to a dub on 24". know what i mean?

I think show cars are cool, as long as they claim to be show cars, and not high preformance cars. and vice versa.

SO, what about full blown show cars that also take it to the track and hand out ass whoopings?? Doesn't that defeat your whole statement? I know plenty of show/drag/circuit cars and have seen them as well. Do you feel it's wrong if you got beat by a full kitted civic on 18's with a fully built type r swap boosted, with 30 psi?? What would be said if after that, he showed up at TFS and took first place for best of show or something??

[PURP]

You and me both my friend, we'll need a bigger cooler next time, lol.

hahaha.... very true.. and I need to bring better beer:goodjob:

[Chuckster]

blah blah blah... Your integra looks like every other integra out there. If you like what you see and want it, get it.

[Vteckidd]

SHOW cars to me are like ones you see at SEMA or NOPI Nationals, cars that really serve no purpose on the street and are crazy audio visual. Great deal of body work, paint, etc. Performance may be a factor but its not the main attraction.

The problem with the main honda crowd is that body kits are RICE and audio/visual stuff is RICE. So they are so handicapped that they really have NOTHING to do anymore. I mean how many Integras with front Lips can you really do something different to?

About 2-3 years ago they started messing with the wire tucking stuff. Thats old school VW anyways.

Then it seems in the last 1-2 years the Wheel fad has popped up. Some guy out in cali did it to an EG and it became the thread of the month on Honda-tech and everyone bought into it. Now its an excuse for the lame kids to do something to their $1500 civic and think they are better than someone else. Its the cool thing to slam your car .5in off the ground on some lowrider wheels with -12091029 negative camber.

Now the popular thing ive seen in the last few months is this stupid "designer" cloth on your door panels, bumper, hood , roof, etc. This to me is just the epitome of lame. You might as well build a Donk. I mean Gucci on a Integra, are we fucking serious?

The 240 Crowd love it or hate it, they can get away with the crazy wheels, offsets, body kits etc so they can do a lot more stylish things and its cool to see what they do although a lot of their stuff is getting played out now too.

I think the thing 5-8 years ago was that it wasnt that big of a deal to have a bodykit on a honda. Now its like the cardinal sin. Originality doesnt exist anymore

[Bus Driver J]

Originality doesnt exist anymore
"You know its saaad but truuuuue" (My attempt at a Metallica quote, lol)

[PURP]

"You know its saaad but truuuuue" (My attempt at a Metallica quote, lol)

I bet you sang that out in your head while typing it.... hahaha

[JITB]

I think the message boards has a big hand in messing up originality. The ONLY, place where its cool to be a hater!

[Bus Driver J]

I bet you sang that out in your head while typing it.... hahaha
:ninja: ....maybe

[PURP]

haha...

[Arm&hammer]

But the thing i don't get is why do people criticize other dudes cars.
Why the hell do people care. It's not like they have to drive them.
There will always be people that copy other people because it's what they like and it's what is cool.
I Personally prefer my car stock. i don't need to be super low or have an amazing paint job.

[JITB]

But the thing i don't get is why do people criticize other dudes cars.
Why the hell do people care. It's not like they have to drive them.
There will always be people that copy other people because it's what they like and it's what is cool.
I Personally prefer my car stock. i don't need to be super low or have an amazing paint job.
stock car is no fun... :no:

[Terror]

I dont hate on the JDM stuff either, i mean its cool whatever. I love the look of a stock hatch with a DECENT drop and black slipstreams. Its simple, its nice, its perfect.

What i HATE is this stupid fucking trend of low offset wheels sticking out like a lowrider tucking 15in rims slammed on the ground with no suspension travel and retarded negative camber. Then they do some half ass wire tuck on a 200k mile LS motor and think its some marvel to oooooo and ahhhhhhh at.



TROOF!!!!!!

god dayum I hate that shit soooooooo much...

Its fucking retarded, has no performance aspects and .... is..... JUST FUCKING RETARDED!!

[JITB]

TROOF!!!!!!

god dayum I hate that shit soooooooo much...

Its fucking retarded, has no performance aspects and .... is..... JUST FUCKING RETARDED!!


camber wear puts everything in perspective, and makes u rethink being slammed... :lmfao: buying new tires every 6 months is far from cool!

[Drummerboy]

SO, what about full blown show cars that also take it to the track and hand out ass whoopings?? Doesn't that defeat your whole statement? I know plenty of show/drag/circuit cars and have seen them as well. Do you feel it's wrong if you got beat by a full kitted civic on 18's with a fully built type r swap boosted, with 30 psi?? What would be said if after that, he showed up at TFS and took first place for best of show or something??

I Don't think it defeats my statement. Although i do believe you've brought up a good thought. I agree, there are some very nice show cars that will tear me up at the track.
I do not feel its wrong for a civic to have a full body kit on 18's with a fully built type r swap boosted, with 30 psi.

What would be said: Thats a very well rounded car.


i dont mean to come off as "that guy", and if i do, i apologize. Just keeping the discussion from being 1 sided.

[Arm&hammer]

stock car is no fun... :no:

i meant to say looking stock.
lol.

[blacknightteg]

I Don't think it defeats my statement. Although i do believe you've brought up a good thought. I agree, there are some very nice show cars that will tear me up at the track.
I do not feel its wrong for a civic to have a full body kit on 18's with a fully built type r swap boosted, with 30 psi.

What would be said: Thats a very well rounded car.


i dont mean to come off as "that guy", and if i do, i apologize. Just keeping the discussion from being 1 sided.


you know for a fact that even though it may be a well-rounded car. i bet you that people would still call it rice just because of the way that it looked. now a days it seems that people are more about the impracticality of a car then the actual true functionality.

that brings me to the slammed/crazy offsets that are around. wtf is the point? i dont understand it. why drive a car that is basically impractical. i car was ment to drive, not have to all of a sudden slow down at every bump in the road. i just dont get it and the making sure the offset is percisely what it should be on a lowered car so it will stick out from under the fenders, eh. to me a car is meant to drive, not go slow and look good. why not just keep your height at a reasonable level with STILL a little bit of fender gap and still look sharp?

my car may look like almost every integra out there. and i know that. but i dont care, its how I wanted it to look as time went on. I used to LOVE the look of the bomex kit and always wanted to get one of those but it was the cost of it at the time and being in highschool that wouldnt let me do it.

[Elbow]

The people who are different or don't care what others think get royally bashed.

There are very few really unique cars on this site. Every Honda on here to me looks the same, is boring, and for some unknown reason Honda owners think they are the shit. That's the stereotype I get from it.

Shit I paint half my cars with a roller just to make it decent, and worry about performance. I track my cars, and spending time and money to make a pretty little car is useless to me, it's made to track, if I crash, oh well, it cost me $30 to paint and a $5 Lowes lip that WORKS.

[Vteckidd]

I mean my car will be lowered with some boring rims but I'm not trying to make a statement either. I just wanna go fast like Ricky Bobby

[PURP]

I mean my car will be lowered with some boring rims but I'm not trying to make a statement either. I just wanna go fast like Ricky Bobby

if you ain't first, you're last

[Sammich]

Now dont get me wrong i am guilty myself of clowning and criticizing many things that have been posted up on this site, and thats wrong. but i have come to learn to accept other peoples thoughts and ideas as a good thing and as their own. I dont really judge anymore, and as a matter of fact why should anyone else think someone elses car is stupid. i mean doesnt hating the car actually give it more attention then having everyone actually like the car and then it dying out of attention(if that makes sense).




I'M GLAD U ADDED TAHT PARAGRAPH, BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO BLAST U. BTW, I SEE MORE PEOPLE DOING 'INNOVATIVE' TYPE THINGS LATELY THAN BEFORE. BEFORE IT WAS ALL ABOUT SIMPLE PAINT/CLEAN PAINT JOBS. NOW I SEE GRAFFITTI HOODS AND NOW BAYS...ALOT OF 'THINGS' TO SET THEM APART. BUT AS FOR ME, I STILL LIKE THE CLEAN LOOK, BUT I STILL ADMIRE THE NEW THINGS THAT COME THRU

[AirMax95]

People are afraid of acceptance and criticism. Do what you like and love it.

If you are going to look like the rest, do it beacuse you love the look, not because everyone else does.

[Arm&hammer]

The people who are different or don't care what others think get royally bashed.

:yes:
Get used to having the same look on every car.

[silversol]

SHOW cars to me are like ones you see at SEMA or NOPI Nationals, cars that really serve no purpose on the street and are crazy audio visual. Great deal of body work, paint, etc. Performance may be a factor but its not the main attraction.

The problem with the main honda crowd is that body kits are RICE and audio/visual stuff is RICE. So they are so handicapped that they really have NOTHING to do anymore. I mean how many Integras with front Lips can you really do something different to?

About 2-3 years ago they started messing with the wire tucking stuff. Thats old school VW anyways.

Then it seems in the last 1-2 years the Wheel fad has popped up. Some guy out in cali did it to an EG and it became the thread of the month on Honda-tech and everyone bought into it. Now its an excuse for the lame kids to do something to their $1500 civic and think they are better than someone else. Its the cool thing to slam your car .5in off the ground on some lowrider wheels with -12091029 negative camber.

Now the popular thing ive seen in the last few months is this stupid "designer" cloth on your door panels, bumper, hood , roof, etc. This to me is just the epitome of lame. You might as well build a Donk. I mean Gucci on a Integra, are we fucking serious?

The 240 Crowd love it or hate it, they can get away with the crazy wheels, offsets, body kits etc so they can do a lot more stylish things and its cool to see what they do although a lot of their stuff is getting played out now too.

I think the thing 5-8 years ago was that it wasnt that big of a deal to have a bodykit on a honda. Now its like the cardinal sin. Originality doesnt exist anymore


This comes to mind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yfArN-e2OU

[TSiFTW]

This is one of the best written threads I've seen in a while. I fix up my car to my liking. Not anyone elses. If they don't like it I don't care. If they bash me, I don't care. Look at the well done show type cars that everyone bashes. When one of them pulls in to a meet or a show, where does everyone flock to? They immediately circle around that car. Why? Because it is bad ass. They may talk shit about it later but while they are graced with it's presence they admire it. Most of the time it is jealosy. If they had the money they would do it, but they dont. If they were to try, they would have a half assed car with shoddy cheap parts, crappy body work, primer cause the paint job is expensive,then guess what, then they fall into the category of TRUE RICER. Therefore it has became much easier to bash it and say how rice it is, to make their car look better.

PS: Also a lot of the "kids" have never seen a real true nicely done up all out car in real life. It is always more impressive to see it in person than on a forum or magazine where you can't truly see the quality, and appreciate the time and effort put into a car like that.

[silversol]

I agree with mike. a nice clean hatch with slips and lowered, NOT LAYING FRAME. but can still go over speedbumps with out damage!

[Vteckidd]

I agree with mike. a nice clean hatch with slips and lowered, NOT LAYING FRAME. but can still go over speedbumps with out damage!

I mean thats just simple and i like it. I dont care if its JDM or CLEAN or whatever. IMO Toms hatch is still one of my favorites. and its just a simple paint job with Black Spoon wheels. Its no uber JDM and has some stupid interior. Its a simple hatch with an R motor.

Its functional.

Hell i liked Buckys EM1. It was nice. I liked the paint scheme, the interior, the bay, etc. it wasnt anything super ground breaking, but it was just well thought out and well done IMO.

I like Jays S2000, its not crazy over done, its got just the right amount of offset, i dig the hardtop (which is getting played out lol).

Bens TSX is subtle but clean. It has expensive wheels, expensive brakes, but it doesnt scream at you. Its also a $30,000 car.


Some of those K Swapped cars at IA were pretty cool. But i guess i just dont get excited at stuff like that anymore, well not enough to drive 3-4 hours for a weekend to go look at them.

[RL...]

because people are scared to be different. i think that its they feel that if they different in their ideals when it comes to modding that everyone will look down upon them. and for the most part its pathetically true. this "scene" over the past 10 years has been fucking pathetic. everyone has grown to one type of car look. and for the love of god the "jdm" look so so manufactured its not even funny. clean and stock looking with slammed cars and certain wheels is NOT JDM. your not JDM if you arent right hand drive to me.

i am getting so sick of people calling shit rice when it clearely looks done, and to the owners liking. its like me calling a ferrari or lambo rice because there are some wacky rims on there. do YOU have the money that those rims probably cost? let alone the car, and is it YOUR car? no. so STFU

You have a acura integra, perhaps the most commonly modded import besides the civic....so it seems you are part of the problem you describe lol

So don't complain about how ppl are scared and how you don't like the scene when you are doing NOTHING to help change it to make it better. You yourself are conforming to the problem that you are describing as your integra blends in with every other modded teg...to inspire change and promote change you have to start with yourself...

[AirMax95]

You have a acura integra, perhaps the most commonly modded import besides the civic....so it seems you are part of the problem you describe lol

So don't complain about how ppl are scared and how you don't like the scene when you are doing NOTHING to help change it to make it better. You yourself are conforming to the problem that you are describing as your integra blends in with every other modded teg...to inspire change and promote change you have to start with yourself...

Wow...um, why are you blasting the OP? Did you read his post, or just the title? :screwy:

[Captain-Obvious™]

A lot of you in this thread are saying that you think being slammed on the ground is "retarded" and "fucking stupid" and "no functionality." Yet you keep saying "make a car your own" and people need to stop hating.

Well, I think gaudy body kits on ANY car is fucking stupid. That's why I don't have one. Hell, I hated the things when they were "cool."

My car is slammed on the ground, but I like it and I'm "doing me." So don't be so quick to jump on anyone that says they think a certain civic looks terrible because it has a body kit, crazy fiberglass audio setups, and an insane paint job. They may not be "nut-swingers." They might just be someone that hates body kits. Because just as you think laying frame is stupid, I think body kits are stupid.

I'm all for people doing their own thing, and I won't hate on them for doing what they wanna do, but that doesn't change the fact that I hate it. Most of you commenting in this thread make a point to tell OP's that you think their slammed, on Rota's, plaid interior car is "just like everyone else's" and "non-functional" and "fucking stupid." In reality most of the people you are criticizing are just trying to do them with the limited funds they have. If I don't like someones car, I tell them. But I do so with respect to the work and effort they have put into their car.

It's human nature to want to be like someone you respect and have what they have. That's why there is so much bandwagoning going on.

[speedminded]

Most people don't have the ability or knowledge to be creative and individualize a vehicle on their own. Or the confidence. They're simply lemmings just doing what someone else has done to feel accepted.

You have bandwagon cars and you have bandwagon mods.

ANY car can be made to look nice and/or perform. You name it, it doesn't matter what it is, it CAN be done. Simple modifications and additions can make a car flow. It's still not going to appeal to everyone though. Nothing will. There isn't a car in the world that will appeal to everyone or even a majority of people in the "scene". That's the way it has always been and will never change.

I respect cars that have quality and function in mind...without shortcuts.

Stance is the number one thing for any vehicle but there will always be people taking things to extremes too...no matter how impractical it may be. Stick on fender vents make me laugh at first, then I get agitated that someone is actually making money off them lol! Same as the LED washer's a decade ago. It's normally the most ridiculous things that become a fad.

As a whole, we have the ability to make the car scene anything we want and we can take it in any direction we want.

[RL...]

The people who are different or don't care what others think get royally bashed.

There are very few really unique cars on this site. Every Honda on here to me looks the same, is boring, and for some unknown reason Honda owners think they are the shit. That's the stereotype I get from it.

Shit I paint half my cars with a roller just to make it decent, and worry about performance. I track my cars, and spending time and money to make a pretty little car is useless to me, it's made to track, if I crash, oh well, it cost me $30 to paint and a $5 Lowes lip that WORKS.

lol @ ppl calling rubber molding a front lip

[RL...]

Wow...um, why are you blasting the OP? Did you read his post, or just the title? :screwy:

did you read my post? I am not blasting him, simply calling him out on his hypocrisy...

He is complaining about the scene and how it sucks because NO ONE IS DIFFERENT AND EVERYONE LOOKS THE SAME, when he has ONE OF THE MOST COMMONLY MODDED CARS MODIFIED IN THE MOST COMMON WAY

[AirMax95]

I guess......

[Sammich]

ARE YOU SAYING YOUR MAXIMA IS TRULY CUSTOMIZED/DIFFERENT?

[RL...]

I guess......

lol do you agree with me that nightteg is a hypocrite?

[RL...]

ARE YOU SAYING YOUR MAXIMA IS TRULY CUSTOMIZED/DIFFERENT?

NO I NEVER SAID MY MAXIMA WAS DIFFERENT U DUMBASS. PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I POSTED THAT KIND OF STATEMENT, BECAUSE I DID NOT.

MY CAR IS NOTHING SPECIAL, BUT I AM NOT HERE CRYING ABOUT THE SCENE AND MAKING THREADS ABOUT IT EITHER.

[Sammich]

I COULDA WENT OFF THE DEEP END AND STARTED CRITICIZING YOUR RETARDED ASS FROM TEH JUMP CUZ U SWEARING MAXIMA IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF ALL DEPENDABLE CARS AND SHIT AND THAT ITS THE BEST CAR TO MODIFY AND WHAT NOT, BUT I REMAINED CIVIL ADN ASKED U A SIMPLE QUESTION AND GOT LASHED AT...NEXT TIME I WONT CHILL OUT...HAPPY BIDDINGS DUMBASS

[Vteckidd]

I mean the OP is like any other integra you see on the road, but hes not stunting in some parking lot every weekend thinking its some car you have to bow down to.

Ive always said its the ATTITUDES of the people that drive the cars that is the problem

[RL...]

I COULDA WENT OFF THE DEEP END AND STARTED CRITICIZING YOUR RETARDED ASS FROM TEH JUMP CUZ U SWEARING MAXIMA IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF ALL DEPENDABLE CARS AND SHIT AND THAT ITS THE BEST CAR TO MODIFY AND WHAT NOT, BUT I REMAINED CIVIL ADN ASKED U A SIMPLE QUESTION AND GOT LASHED AT...NEXT TIME I WONT CHILL OUT...HAPPY BIDDINGS DUMBASS

YO SON I LOVE MY CAR AND MAXIMAS ARE DEPENDABLE CARS, BUT A FWD CAR COULD NEVER BE A GOOD CAR TO MODIFY FOR SPEED IMO. THATS WHY MY CAR IS 100% STOCK YOU IDIOT....

YOU KEEP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND ARE GOING AROUND POSTING I'M SAYING THIS OR THAT WHEN I'VE NEVER SAID ANY OF IT.

DO YOU EVEN BELIEVE THE GARBAGE YOU POST?

[AirMax95]

lol do you agree with me that nightteg is a hypocrite?

No I do not. Please see quote below.


I mean the OP is like any other integra you see on the road, but hes not stunting in some parking lot every weekend thinking its some car you have to bow down to.

Ive always said its the ATTITUDES of the people that drive the cars that is the problem

[Sammich]

YOUR STUPIDITY...ITS BESIDE ME

[RL...]

I mean the OP is like any other integra you see on the road, but hes not stunting in some parking lot every weekend thinking its some car you have to bow down to.

Ive always said its the ATTITUDES of the people that drive the cars that is the problem

very true....very true.......

[RL...]

No I do not. Please see quote below.


I mean the OP is like any other integra you see on the road, but hes not stunting in some parking lot every weekend thinking its some car you have to bow down to.



I did that post, and apparently he said it blends in with every other teg too.....maybe you should re-read that post....


So after you do that, let me ask you again, is nightteg a hypocrite?

[RL...]

I am not an asshole nor trying to be, but there is a difference between reading something, and understanding what you've read...I think some of you like sammich need to learn that

[RL...]

I LIKE THREADS LIKE THIS WHERE WE CAN HAZ FRIENDLY DEBATES MOAR MOAR!!!!!

[AirMax95]

Ok, I give up with you.

There is a difference in READING, UNDERSTANDING, and TAKING OUT OF CONTEXT.

Modding to YOUR liking, or MODDING to SOMEONE ELSES LIKING is what it comes down to...which is pretty sure where the OP is going. OP, please correct me if I am wrong.

[RL...]

Ok, I give up with you.

There is a difference in READING, UNDERSTANDING, and TAKING OUT OF CONTEXT.

Modding to YOUR liking, or MODDING to SOMEONE ELSES LIKING is what it comes down to.

you did not answer my ? yet




Is someone who drives one of the most commonly modded car modified in a common way who complains about the scene sucking because everyones cars looks the same a hypocrite?

[RL...]

I'm bored...can you tell

[AirMax95]

you did not answer my ? yet




Is someone who drives one of the most commonly modded car modified in a common way who complains about the scene sucking because everyones cars looks the same a hypocrite?

I answered you twice. NO!

[AirMax95]

I'm bored...can you tell

I'm going to reach through this screen and Chuck Norris slap your ass :2up:

[JITB]

i dont think its that people mod for other people. its just hey are afraid of being criticized , and i dont blame them honestly. With the amount of blind hate on IA..its no surprise that its gotten like this. Nothing wrong with an opinion, but some things can be withheld, especially when you know you wouldnt say any of that to the owners face..

[RL...]

I'm going to reach through this screen and Chuck Norris slap your ass :2up:



Hey! I got a message for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacmF9_6WqU

[AirMax95]

i dont think its that people mod for other people. its just hey are afraid of being criticized , and i dont blame them honestly. With the amount of blind hate on IA..its no surprise that its gotten like this. Nothing wrong with an opinion, but some things can be withheld, especially when you know you wouldnt say any of that to the owners face..

Yeah, no one has the balls to slam someone in public. Not sure if its fear, or some form of courtesy. The V meet would be a brawl :bump:

[RL...]

i dont think its that people mod for other people. its just hey are afraid of being criticized , and i dont blame them honestly. With the amount of blind hate on IA..its no surprise that its gotten like this. Nothing wrong with an opinion, but some things can be withheld, especially when you know you wouldnt say any of that to the owners face..

thats a big reason.....


Another reason is that it is easier to be/sounds cool/respectable online since you're hiding behind a guise of anonymity. Thus, when someone says something, without even knowing who said it they can command a following since they are so popular with rep points lol when in fact, IRL they're prob a loser who you would not want to be like at all!

[speedminded]

YO SON I LOVE MY CAR AND MAXIMAS ARE DEPENDABLE CARS, BUT A FWD CAR COULD NEVER BE A GOOD CAR TO MODIFY FOR SPEED IMO. THATS WHY MY CAR IS 100% STOCK YOU IDIOT....

YOU KEEP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND ARE GOING AROUND POSTING I'M SAYING THIS OR THAT WHEN I'VE NEVER SAID ANY OF IT.

DO YOU EVEN BELIEVE THE GARBAGE YOU POST?
Do you believe you post as much garbage as Sammich? lol! What does your opinion matter if you aren't involved with cars built for speed?

Five years ago there were local daily driver civics running 10's in the 1/4.

I've known of several daily driver FWD's that will tear up most cars in the mountains completely destroying bikes (but everybody knows bikes are slower in turns, especially heavier ones).

The first time I ever ran autocross I was running 1 second behind the STI's on a mid 50 second course and was the 3rd fastest FWD of the day...on 17" wheels with stock shocks and lowering springs lol. If I had run the afternoon session I would have had the fastest FWD of the day. I think I finished 8th for the session and 14th overall for the day while trying to get traction coming out of the turns with an open diff lol...on overweight 17" wheels.

I won't even get into all the SCCA & NASA cars that tear up race tracks every weekend. 151 mph at Road Atlanta in a Prelude is fast.

[Elbow]

lol @ ppl calling rubber molding a front lip

LOL @ people like you who don't even understand it's function.

[RL...]

Do you believe you post as much garbage as Sammich? lol! What does your opinion matter if you aren't involved with cars built for speed?

Five years ago there were local daily driver civics running 10's in the 1/4.

I've known of several daily driver FWD's that will tear up most cars in the mountains completely destroying bikes (but everybody knows bikes are slower in turns, especially heavier ones).

The first time I ever ran autocross I was running 1 second behind the STI's on a mid 50 second course and was the 3rd fastest FWD of the day...on 17" wheels with stock shocks and lowering springs lol. If I had run the afternoon session I would have had the fastest of the day.

I won't even get into all the SCCA & NASA cars that tear up race tracks every weekend. 151 mph at Road Atlanta in a Prelude is fast.

There is a difference between reading, and understanding what you've read!

I never said fwd cars couldn't be fast, they can be very fast. But I think it is stupid to make on go fast....if you don't like my opinion then fuck you

ok cupcake?

[Elbow]

There is a difference between reading, and understanding what you've read!

I never said fwd cars couldn't be fast, they can be very fast. But I think it is stupid to make on go fast....if you don't like my opinion then fuck you

ok cupcake?


How is it stupid?? lol. There are classes that suit a FWD car more then a RWD car, the list goes on of pros and cons. You don't know what you're even talking about.

[RL...]

LOL @ people like you who don't even understand it's function.

I understand it's function, but ppl like you who do not go out and buy parts from retailers who support the scene are a big reason the scene is dragging!

When you buy a lip from home depot the company that makes lips for miatas isn't seeing any money. So you're buying products from a company that isn't helping the import scene, not advertising in mags, nor forums, nor setting up vendor booths. So you're leaving the company that makes quality parts for your car out to dry and they're suffering, and since they're suffering they haev no money to advertise or to setup vendor booths at local events which perpetuates the cycle.

[speedminded]

There is a difference between reading, and understanding what you've read!

I never said fwd cars couldn't be fast, they can be very fast. But I think it is stupid to make on go fast....if you don't like my opinion then fuck you

ok cupcake?
What are you getting butt hurt over? You clearly said "BUT A FWD CAR COULD NEVER BE A GOOD CAR TO MODIFY FOR SPEED IMO". I don't see any other way to comprehend it other than "a FWD car could never be a good car to modify for speed".

[RL...]

How is it stupid?? lol. There are classes that suit a FWD car more then a RWD car, the list goes on of pros and cons. You don't know what you're even talking about.

1) I could care less about classes/professional racing and what they do, that's them and I am going to do me. This is the type of attitude that degrades the scene, I sit here saying I don't like to mod fwd cars and you start bashing, not that I care of course....but you need to understand not everyone feels the way simontibbett feels ok?

I do know what I am talking about and rwd/awd cars are more fun to drive, thus if I were to mod something it would def be rwd/awd

[civictR]

NissanTun3r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ......


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[puregroove]

when people stop caring about what their car looks like and get back into performance.

When people stop giving a shit about what other people think

When this current batch of bitch ass whiny kids move on and get replaced by people that actually can think for themselves

yeah after all that happens, shit will change, dont hold your breath

+digg

[AirMax95]

NissanTun3r, all of your posts are filled with fallacy.

Please stop abusing yourself.

[RL...]

NissanTun3r, all of your posts are filled with fallacy.

Please stop abusing yourself.

Where are the fallacies?

They are nonexistent...just because you may take my words out of context does not my my posts false.

[AirMax95]

Read closely....they are a plenty.

Try looking at the topic of FWD cars between yourself, Speedminded, and SimonTibbet. Its there, good luck!

[RL...]

Read closely....they are a plenty.

Try looking at the topic of FWD cars between yourself, Speedminded, and SimonTibbet. Its there, good luck!

you are wrong

[speedminded]

1) I could care less about classes/professional racing and what they do, that's them and I am going to do me. This is the type of attitude that degrades the scene, I sit here saying I don't like to mod fwd cars and you start bashing, not that I care of course....but you need to understand not everyone feels the way simontibbett feels ok?

I do know what I am talking about and rwd/awd cars are more fun to drive, thus if I were to mod something it would def be rwd/awdLOL! Without motorsports there wouldn't be a scene. People have been racing cars since cars were invented. From Grand Prix racing in the 20's to hod rod's and rat rods in the 50's it's always been about speed and/or looking good.

Simon spending $10 making his own lip verses a couple hundred on a Garage Vary lip isn't killing the scene lol! He's the one involved in it. He's the one working at car events. Parts don't get tested on street cars before they see the track. The R&D is on the track then it goes to the street.

You drive a 3,000lb FWD. What's the quickest, best handling, FWD you've ever driven?

[HypnoToad]

this is why i love the domestic world,it never changes.

[DSGB-GTS]

The way I see it is if everyone would mod their car to their taste and not give a fuck what other people think the scene would be in much better shape. I love all types of imports. I bought my Celica GT-S because I wanted to be different. I have modded my car to my taste, and I really don't care who likes or dislikes me ride. I have some parts that would be considered rice on this forum, but I don't consider them rice. I have an aftermarket body kit but it is authentic, and was painted and installed properly. Does that make me a ricer just because I have a kit?

[Z0_o6]

I modded my STi according to what I wanted. I would likely get picked on by a lot of subaru guys for going with a big, laggy turbo and knock-off wheels and removing the wing and putting a big heavy stereo in...etc. Fact is, at the end of the day I make the payment, so I have the ability to do whatever I feel like to my car. Same goes for the civic I'm building, yes it has all been done 1000 times over, but I have always wanted a nice and simple K20 EK, so that's exactly what I'm building. I could care less if anybody says they don't like my cars, that's their problem. I don't see a problem with the "scene" (if you can even call it that anymore) I see a problem with the people. Me personally I always go for performance first, looks secondary. ALWAYS. However I really can't knock somebody for the whole LV interior, stanced civic with wheels that stick out and such because, while it may not be what I personally like, it isn't my problem. I DO have a problem with the kid who has that civic and wants to give me shit because my car has wheel gap on some Drag's. I bought my wheels for their width. I put all the money I had leftover into the best tires I could possibly afford.

Oh and Nissantun3r- you're still obviously an idiot who is just here to try to pick fights. The OP wasn't saying anything about his car at all, he was simply stating what he thought about the trends that he has seen lately. Who are you to call him a hypocrite for not "doing anything for the scene" when you yourself are the exact kind of person who ruins shit for everyone else? You drive a stock Maxima, yet want to bitch at other people and put them down? That is laughable at best, let us know when YOU do ANYTHING that can be considered part of the "scene" at ALL. Til' then feel free to go fuck a cactus bareback.

[blacknightteg]

Ok, I give up with you.

There is a difference in READING, UNDERSTANDING, and TAKING OUT OF CONTEXT.

Modding to YOUR liking, or MODDING to SOMEONE ELSES LIKING is what it comes down to...which is pretty sure where the OP is going. OP, please correct me if I am wrong.


airmax- you were spot on

nissantuner- dude, stfu. if you would have red my original post correctly you would understand where my post as well as every other post in this thread came from. i know i drive a fucking integra. no shit sherlock, why do i drive it because back when i bought this car in 05 it was the one i liked the most. i am not being a hypocrite? where the fuck did you get that mindset? please do tell. i even specifically stated in my OP that i at one point wanted a bomex kit but didnt get it at the time because it was to expensive, so what did i do then? went for something else that i PERSONALLY liked, a lip kit. still looked nice, still was to my own tastes. now if your going to sit here an fucking call mea hypocrite you can seriously go kill yourself. Like mike said, i am not one to fucking roll up into a parking lot thinking my car is the shit becasue it has gold wheels and a OEM optional lip kit. i roll up in a parking lot to guess what, ROLL UP. peoples thoughts and opinions on my car are the last thing on my mind, the simple and clean look is the look i go for. get the fuck over yourself.

[Jecht]

I personally find it humorous that the people who are into motorsports and drive RWD cars frequently are sticking up for fwd and the guy with a fwd sedan is discussing how unworthy of performance it is.

Regardless of drivetrain setup - FWD, RWD, AWD, etc. - any car can be made to be fast. But everyone is so afraid of doing anything different that they end up with Hondas and the same modifications. Those that truly care about performance aren't the ones making threads about their freshly sharpied fender or finish panel. While a good portion of why people end up with Hondas is the bandwagon movement, there are legit reasons why people pick them to modify in the first place. I agree with blacknightteg - so what if his car looks the same as others out there? Its his car to do with what he wants. But I bet if he posted a picture thread about it right now there would be a dozen people telling him to lower it more and do numerous other things.

[speedminded]

I personally find it humorous that the people who are into motorsports and drive RWD cars frequently are sticking up for fwd and the guy with a fwd sedan is discussing how unworthy of performance it is.

Regardless of drivetrain setup - FWD, RWD, AWD, etc. - any car can be made to be fast. But everyone is so afraid of doing anything different that they end up with Hondas and the same modifications. Those that truly care about performance aren't the ones making threads about their freshly sharpied fender or finish panel. While a good portion of why people end up with Hondas is the bandwagon movement, there are legit reasons why people pick them to modify in the first place. I agree with blacknightteg - so what if his car looks the same as others out there? Its his car to do with what he wants. But I bet if he posted a picture thread about it right now there would be a dozen people telling him to lower it more and do numerous other things.One of the drivers of our endurance races drove Vipers when he wasn't in the Del Slo's. I never heard him once complain about the race cars 200+ whp FWD drivetrain when he's used to driving 500+hp RWD's. Grip racing is racing. It's a competition, door to door, doesn't matter FWD or RWD. It's still running flat out 9k RPM's for 13 hours straight.

[RL...]

LOL! Without motorsports there wouldn't be a scene. People have been racing cars since cars were invented. From Grand Prix racing in the 20's to hod rod's and rat rods in the 50's it's always been about speed and/or looking good.

Simon spending $10 making his own lip verses a couple hundred on a Garage Vary lip isn't killing the scene lol! He's the one involved in it. He's the one working at car events. Parts don't get tested on street cars before they see the track. The R&D is on the track then it goes to the street.

You drive a 3,000lb FWD. What's the quickest, best handling, FWD you've ever driven?

People buying knock off parts is hurting vendors and in turn hurts us as well. This is a fact.

I do drive a 3k lb fwd car... I've driven a boosted teg with about 350 to the wheels, which is honestly more than a teg ever needs....but I have also driven 350's, m3's, an m5, and a c5 vette z06, etc, and I like rwd cars better, you may like fwd cars better, good for you, but I like rwd/awd cars better. If you have such a big problem with that then....lol

[RL...]

Oh and Nissantun3r- you're still obviously an idiot who is just here to try to pick fights. The OP wasn't saying anything about his car at all, he was simply stating what he thought about the trends that he has seen lately. Who are you to call him a hypocrite for not "doing anything for the scene" when you yourself are the exact kind of person who ruins shit for everyone else? You drive a stock Maxima, yet want to bitch at other people and put them down? That is laughable at best, let us know when YOU do ANYTHING that can be considered part of the "scene" at ALL. Til' then feel free to go fuck a cactus bareback.

1) You have no idea what kind of person I am. If you have any intelligence at all you would know ppl's internet personas do not imitate ourselves IRL.

What have I ruined for anyone?

And what do I do that helps the scene? I rev my fucking engine @ everyone that pulls up to me at a redlight...try me

[speedminded]

1) You have no idea what kind of person I am. If you have any intelligence at all you would know ppl's internet personas do not imitate ourselves IRL.

What have I ruined for anyone?

And what do I do that helps the scene? I rev my fucking engine @ everyone that pulls up to me at a redlight...try meExactly what I thought, another failure.

[Z0_o6]

1) You have no idea what kind of person I am. If you have any intelligence at all you would know ppl's internet personas do not imitate ourselves IRL.

What have I ruined for anyone?

And what do I do that helps the scene? I rev my fucking engine @ everyone that pulls up to me at a redlight...try me

oh excuse me i didn't mean to strike a nerve there cupcake. Oh and generally people DO act as themselves online because they have the common sense to realize that it is the only way a lot of people they have never met in person have to figure out what they are like. I would rather portray myself on here like I really am instead of coming off like a poser when somebody meets me IRL.

BTW, I would not be surprised in the least if you really do that. You don't have to lie to make friends.

[D3UC3S]

"what other people think and say about me is none of my business"......words of advice i live by. Makes life a whole lot less stressful:)

[RL...]

oh excuse me i didn't mean to strike a nerve there cupcake. Oh and generally people DO act as themselves online because they have the common sense to realize that it is the only way a lot of people they have never met in person have to figure out what they are like. I would rather portray myself on here like I really am instead of coming off like a poser when somebody meets me IRL.

BTW, I would not be surprised in the least if you really do that. You don't have to lie to make friends.

lol Nah I think everyone comes off differently online than IRL, whether intentionally or unintentionally. But that's another debate..It's not a matter of posing to be something else...atleast for me it isn't

And you didn't strike a nerve. Everything that happens on IA stays, it's not a big deal and I don't take it too seriously...

[RL...]

Exactly what I thought, another failure.

a failure at what? I was being a smartass and you know it....

[Elbow]

People buying knock off parts is hurting vendors and in turn hurts us as well. This is a fact.

I do drive a 3k lb fwd car... I've driven a boosted teg with about 350 to the wheels, which is honestly more than a teg ever needs....but I have also driven 350's, m3's, an m5, and a c5 vette z06, etc, and I like rwd cars better, you may like fwd cars better, good for you, but I like rwd/awd cars better. If you have such a big problem with that then....lol

So everyone should only buy name brand parts, and never venture into making their own? :???:

Who even mentioned knock off parts?

[RL...]

So everyone should only buy name brand parts, and never venture into making their own? :???:

Who even mentioned knock off parts?

I like fat chiks.

[Vteckidd]

knock off parts isnt the problem. The only problem i see the knock off parts doing is making trends easier to follow.

Lets say some $5000 wheel i popular. Well not everyone is going to be able to afford that wheel. But lets say Rota makes the same wheel for $500. Bam, instantly 700000 people have the same wheel.

Sure that can cause a problem when it comes to originality and how long that looks stays "fresh" but if anything it should push the guys at the top to strive to find new ways to do stuff differently.

[Z0_o6]

knock off parts isnt the problem. The only problem i see the knock off parts doing is making trends easier to follow.

Lets say some $5000 wheel i popular. Well not everyone is going to be able to afford that wheel. But lets say Rota makes the same wheel for $500. Bam, instantly 700000 people have the same wheel.

Sure that can cause a problem when it comes to originality and how long that looks stays "fresh" but if anything it should push the guys at the top to strive to find new ways to do stuff differently.

Why should the guys at the top do anything? They didn't make any money off those 700000 sets of Rota's. There is no defending knock-offs. Had they made the money off of all those wheels then yeah, they could probably drop their prices a little and have more designs because of a bigger budget. Thats why the nicest wheels are so expensive though, because not too many people buy them.

[speedminded]

Why should the guys at the top do anything? They didn't make any money off those 700000 sets of Rota's. There is no defending knock-offs. Had they made the money off of all those wheels then yeah, they could probably drop their prices a little and have more designs because of a bigger budget. Thats why the nicest wheels are so expensive though, because not too many people buy them.Had they spent $100+ on a design patent that protects the ornamental design of an object then nobody could legally duplicate it or import it. Automobile manufacturers have been putting patents on their wheels and wheel covers for decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent

[blacknightteg]

knock offs are just aternatives for people who cant go and rip their nuts off just for one part. i dont see the harm in having something thats a copy. as long as the person doesnt project it to be something that its not.

[D3UC3S]

knock offs are just aternatives for people who cant go and rip their nuts off just for one part. i dont see the harm in having something thats a copy. as long as the person doesnt project it to be something that its not.


x2...this is a great statement. If anything, this is what keeps the scene going. maybe 20% of the people can afford name brand everything...the other 80% of us have to rely on a replica part because were doin this with spare money we have saved for months....I know i have wayyyy more imporant things to pay for in my life than wasting everything i have on spoon, work, mugen, etc. My KiddRacing header makes me very happy and i most certainly didn't brake the bank on that one.

[01CDMLUDER]

I'll admit I still like the "jdm look" but I'm not following anybody and I'm not a poser.

Alot of cars are gonna look similar b/c there's only a certain different # combo's of exterior candy (meaning, there might be a car out there similar to mine but not exact)

and the world we live in with all this internets, it makes it alot easier for ppl to bite other ppls style.

I build my cars the way I want it and I don't follow a crowd..

I take the most pride in doing the small things to my car that add character and uniqueness

[quickdodge®]

stock car is no fun... :no:

It is when it's my car. Do you know how many people come up and compliment my Honda over a "tricked out" car? I don't get comments from people just in the modding world either. I get them from folks of all ages. Do you get in your car and drive to a store less than half a mile from your home and get a comment or two every time you go? I do. And my car is stock.

For purposes of this topic:
I can safely say I am one of the few who can actually stay "original." I have a car that damn near everyone has said "awesome" about but yet no one wants it. I love it. Me having a car that everyone likes but doesn't want means I will be the lone wolf in the crowd. And, for the most part, no one wants the car because they don't care to lack the creature comforts that cars of today come with. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I can go out in my car, stock or modded, and still get reactions in large numbers.

GO OLD SCHOOL!!!

But i do agree with the "who cares what others think, do it anyway" crowd. I'm guilty of displaying my dislike for some cars posted or seen or town, but I always like to end my opinions/thoughts with a "but don't worry about what I or anyone else thinks, do what you want" comment. That's to let that person know that just because I don't like it doesn't mean he/she shouldn't do it. Later, QD.

[choiiiiiiiii]

^ where's the later, qd???

[quickdodge®]

^ where's the later, qd???

What do you mean? Later, QD.


and don't mind the "edit" at the bottom of my post, lolol.

[Gutling]

It is when it's my car. Do you know how many people come up and compliment my Honda over a "tricked out" car? I don't get comments from people just in the modding world either. I get them from folks of all ages. Do you get in your car and drive to a store less than half a mile from your home and get a comment or two every time you go? I do. And my car is stock.


All the vehicles ive owned, when I drive my ghia around I always get asked about it. Old people sharing there vw stories, young people asking wtf is it lol. Its got no trim, dents in it, awful shape and still draws a crowd.

[Elbow]

Drive a race car on the street, it's like driving with a naked blonde on your roof.

[speedminded]

People buying knock off parts is hurting vendors and in turn hurts us as well. This is a fact.

I do drive a 3k lb fwd car... I've driven a boosted teg with about 350 to the wheels, which is honestly more than a teg ever needs....but I have also driven 350's, m3's, an m5, and a c5 vette z06, etc, and I like rwd cars better, you may like fwd cars better, good for you, but I like rwd/awd cars better. If you have such a big problem with that then....lolah hell how did I miss this one.

So you're comparing m3's, m5's, and Z06's to a 350hp turbo Integra? lololol! You can't even take turns in a FWD with that power, it's useless on the street in just about any gear, and with the lightest bit of rain it is useless in every gear at all RPM's.

A $18-22k MSRP car to those that are $55-85,000? Fail. Try again.

[RUFFIAN]

It will come when people stop being coward ass sheep and grow some nuts. I get so tired of people bagging on originality. They should just state the truth and admit they don't have the sack to stand on their own. That is why I drive cars that they can't pronounce let alone find or drive. fuck a crowd. I'm in the scene strictly for the love of cars and meeting different but cool people with cool ideas.

[Shift_2WIN]

Without knockoffs, there would b no competition, resulting n high prices staying high, the "authentic" companies would create a monopoly and there would b nothing you can do about it. Its called Capitalism, and without it, there wouldnt b enough ppl involved to call this a scene b/c everything would b 2 expensive. Though "knockoffs" r "knockoffs", they give everyone the chance to express themselves thru their vehicles. And some "knocksoff" work just as good as the brand name...sometimes ALL u r paying for is a brand name. So "authentic" isnt always the best choice either. And the scene is becoming dull b/c ppl r afraid of being labeled as ricers.

[rollininstyle2004]

I dont even know how to comment on this thread...true customization is not dead, its just dead on IA. Its all pretty much been stated. Just build whatever you want and dont give a fuck what anyone else things. Thats what I do...hell the Passat had $40k+ aftermarket, a car that is usually driven by soccer moms.