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850RCT9A

07-21-2009, 08:34 PM

Since you refuse to respond to the numerous attempts I have made to try to get in contact with you, (and even went through the trouble of having your wireless provider BLOCK my number from contacting you) I have no other choice but to make this situation public. I gave you more than enough time to handle this in a civil manner. But apparently, since you have blocked my number, you have absolutely no intentions of making things right.

I first PM'ed MR.EK9 on 7/15 about the Takata Green TE37's he had for sale (thread (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244384&page=1)). He informed me they were pending and he would let me know if the deal fell through. I text messaged him last night (7/20) to find out he still had them for sale and we agreed to meet up at a gas station at around 11:00pm (now I see why he wanted to meet at night).

Upon arrival, I looked the wheels over and noticed in fact that the wheels were noticably NOT takata green from volk, but had been repainted - he agreed to take $100 off the price because of this. I also told him that I wanted two shift knobs he has for sale (thread (http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244835)) and agreed that he would overnight them to my house for $60. I gave him $60 + $1250, loaded the wheels into my car & gave him my address.

When I got home, I unloaded the wheels from my car. I started noticing the paint was cracking and chipping on every wheel. This didn't bother me too greatly, I can have them repainted. Then I noticed rediculous camber wear on one tire - this also didn't bother me, I was going to replace them all anyway. But then on that same wheel I noticed this: :no:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1974.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1975.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1976.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1978.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1985.jpg

Since when are lug holes oblong?? :thinking:

Also, here's some more damage to that same wheel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1980.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1981.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1982.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1983.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1984.jpg

Pics of the paint cracking:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1986.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1987.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1988.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1990.jpg

Paint chipping off (yeah, takata green from volk :screwy: ):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1997.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1998.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/t0x1que/IMG_1999.jpg

Direct quote from HIS FS Thread:

his is the factory color not painted post-purchase. All the wheels are in good shape with no bends or curbs or any kind.
HMMM.

I called him immediately upon noticing the damage to the wheels to tell him that I would appreciate if he would just give me my money back and sell the wheels to someone else. (He told me last night that he had 4 other people that were ready to buy the wheels, so it shouldnt have been an issue for him to give me my money and sell them to someone else.) He of course, knowing that he sold me a trashed wheel, did not answer. I called him multiple times today as well, again no answer. He eventually had my number blocked through his wireless company.

81911SC

07-21-2009, 08:39 PM

Haven't read but I'm moving to the right section.

Big_Joe

07-21-2009, 08:40 PM

Damn that sucks man

Catnip

07-21-2009, 08:46 PM

No offense, and his FS ad was bullshit, but it seems like you should've brought a flash light and throroughly checked them out.

NEVER buy expensive wheels without inspecting them one by one, over and over... all over.

It'd be one thing if this was a warning thread and saying he wouldn't reimburse your wasted gas meeting him after not properly describing them... but you really just didn't look them over good.

Again, no offense and I'm sorry the wheels are kinda shitty.

green91

07-21-2009, 08:47 PM

Dang somebody drove on those wheels loose looks like.

Revmaynard

07-21-2009, 08:48 PM

Wow, that's some bullshit. I sympathize for your loss of money for some mis-described wheels but rule of thumb should always be that you NEVER buy anything at night that's been used. Hope things work out for you.

quickdodge®

07-21-2009, 08:57 PM

Hope this works out and it seems he fucked you as if he were a 6'7", 314 lb. black guy named Bubbles and you were a 6'1" 167lb. white game named Monty and you had just arrived to his cell block and both of you shared the same cell and this was your third night and you were sound asleep when all of a sudden you were awakened by heavy, onion smelling breath wafting through your narrow nostrils and then he bent you over the bed rails and sold you some fucked up wheels.

But ultimately, this is your fault, OP, for not being better prepared to check these things out BEFORE you paid that money. That's waaaaay too much money to throwing out on used wheels without thoroughly looking them over. Later, QD.

toxxxic

07-21-2009, 09:07 PM

This guy is a vagina. If there were SO MANY people who wanted to buy them, he should have just returned the money and sold them to someone else.

And then to have his cell phone number BLOCKED?!

oneSLOWex

07-21-2009, 09:11 PM

thats that BS man....you should have check them in the daytime or taken a light yes...but he still sold you shit wheels. i hope you get your money back!!

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toxxxic

07-21-2009, 09:12 PM

If I ever see this guy in public, I will personally kick him in the dick. (Since he has no balls for me to kick him in)

Just remember, Mr.Ek9 -- KARMA IS A BITCH.

oneSLOWex

07-21-2009, 09:17 PM

I like how he took perfect pics of the wheels so he didnt show any of the damage....

SHADY

eYezs1ck

07-21-2009, 09:20 PM

sorry for your loss. as a buyer, you have to inspect w/e your buying carefully unless you want shiet like this happening to you. are you going to try to resell them at a lower price? damn dis is bs

Zach79zx

07-21-2009, 09:22 PM

Damn dude thats fucked up

toxxxic

07-21-2009, 09:24 PM

I like how he took perfect pics of the wheels so he didnt show any of the damage....

SHADY

EXACTLY. Wheel 3 in his thread is the one that is fucked up. It almost looks like its photoshopped to make it appear to have no damage

*EFilliated*

07-21-2009, 09:42 PM

i agree. anyways bro thats fucked up. KARMA

and that was a 100% useless post. anything else?

lanning

07-21-2009, 09:44 PM

sorry to hear that man

E=MC²

07-21-2009, 10:07 PM

Mr. EK9 is a friend of mine. The wheels were pending to me at first and I was going to work out a payment plan with him but I decided against it because of the price.

I'm going to try to get in touch with him to get this matter fixed.

I'm sorry about your loss I never looked that closely at the wheels and had no idea the TRUE CONDITION

quickdodge®

07-21-2009, 10:12 PM

I'm going to try to get in touch with him to get this matter fixed.

He knows. I PM-ed him the thread and locked down all his FS threads. Later, QD.

E=MC²

07-21-2009, 10:17 PM

Tried to contact, I got nothing.

Sorry man.

smoknlegend

07-21-2009, 10:19 PM

Hope everything works out for you OP.

toxxxic

07-21-2009, 10:20 PM

Tried to contact, I got nothing.

Sorry man.

He has ignored EVERYONE who's tried to contact him. Yet he's sitting his happy ass on IA browsing the forums all day.

aaronfelipe

07-21-2009, 10:28 PM

He knows. I PM-ed him the thread and locked down all his FS threads. Later, QD.

Thanks Mike for locking it so he cannot go back and change it :goodjob:

Thread stickied for now.

toxxxic

07-21-2009, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the help guys :)

Maniacc

07-21-2009, 10:32 PM

I'm diggin' that thumb ring, son.

toxxxic

07-21-2009, 10:37 PM

shutup, that's my thumb ring!

MissCourtney

07-21-2009, 10:42 PM

Dick move.
Ive seen these wheels in person before and always thought they didnt look right. the paint wasnt right. i think he was at sofackingfresh meet last year.

Hope your get everything worked out dylan.

ps- re's are better

gerardojdm

07-21-2009, 11:01 PM

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for $1000+ of my hard worked money, I would take legal action. That's just me

E=MC²

07-21-2009, 11:06 PM

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for $1000+ of my hard worked money, I would take legal action. That's just me

With this in mind was there a contract or bill of sale made. Anything describing the wheels being sold as is or that if you were not happy that he would give you your money back.

Just wanted to see what bases were covered if any.

FasTech

07-22-2009, 01:03 AM

That really sucks, bro. Thanks for the heads up on a shitty seller.

toxxxic

07-22-2009, 07:06 AM

He texted me this morning @ 7:48 saying

I seriously hope that this is not a threat for damage or any sort of legal action. Since a deal was made in which issues were pointed out then handled accordingly.

I responded with

But you forgot to mention one of the wheels was damaged and unrepairable? All I want is my money back.

And, IMAGINE THAT, no response.

bowdown201

07-22-2009, 07:57 AM

So who bought the wheels you or the OP?

bpoweredhatch

07-22-2009, 08:00 AM

dang that sucks take him to court

07-22-2009, 09:17 AM

sorry i couldn't help you much on the phone son. good luck with this.

850RCT9A

07-22-2009, 09:24 AM

I bought the wheels.

oneSLOWex

07-22-2009, 09:37 AM

Whats bad is he is browsing the damn forum!

Last Activity: Today 10:08 AM
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07-22-2009, 09:51 AM

i reminded him again that he needs to respond to this today.

oneSLOWex

07-22-2009, 09:57 AM

i PMed him a link earlier incase he didnt see it lol

NoWAyItZTOMmY

07-22-2009, 11:07 AM

glad i didnt get em. still wanna trade yours wheels?

Black Mamba

07-22-2009, 11:23 AM

Hope this works out and it seems he fucked you as if he were a 6'7", 314 lb. black guy named Bubbles and you were a 6'1" 167lb. white game named Monty and you had just arrived to his cell block and both of you shared the same cell and this was your third night and you were sound asleep when all of a sudden you were awakened by heavy, onion smelling breath wafting through your narrow nostrils and then he bent you over the bed rails and sold you some fucked up wheels.

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: Damn, I cracked up real hard.

Thanks OP for the post and sorry for your loss but you really should have inspected the wheels thoroughly before dropping a $1,000+ on set of USED Volks.

I was seriously considering to purchase his EP for sale as a daily or not. Now I definitely know not to buy anything from this guy.

OMG_TSX

07-22-2009, 12:12 PM

damn that sucks. i brought a set of wheels 3months ago on IA. Daylight time. wheels and tires "look" A+.. and " THEN "!!! i put them on and rolled on them. 3 out 4 were BENT! can not be balanced.! drove like pot holes. MR.EM1 can quote that. i paid 600+. seller didnt answer calls either. GOOD LUCK!! on refund.

spicyMSP

07-22-2009, 03:30 PM

Looks like he's on right now. That blows though man.

One thing another forum i go to does is require all people selling to have a hand written or typed sign with their username, date (needs to be same date as thread was created), and forum web address printed on it. The sign would need to be in all pics posted in the FS thread. I honestly think that would be something good to do here. They also will not accept photos if the
information has been digitally altered onto the picture. Just my :2cents:.

cartune

07-22-2009, 04:21 PM

Well he's viewing this thread now

97_c1vic

07-22-2009, 04:26 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (4 members and 0 guests) 97_c1vic (member.php?u=22995), Mr.Ek9 (member.php?u=19005), AllStock (member.php?u=2607), Justin. (member.php?u=18573)

quickdodge®

07-22-2009, 07:24 PM

He tells me he talking to the OP, but this will stay up until the OP says it's ok to take down. Later, QD.

Tech5

07-22-2009, 07:37 PM

toxxxic

07-22-2009, 07:55 PM

MR2DR

07-22-2009, 07:57 PM

EcKoBoi770, toxxxic, The Ninja, browningboy7, Mr.Ek9, jcs

you should do the right thing man. karma's really a bitch.

quickdodge®

07-22-2009, 07:58 PM

Qd, that's bullshit, he has not contacted ANYONE... He blocked the OP's number through his wireless company. I've tried to contact him over my number, he won't answer calls or texts. He's lying if he says he's talking to the OP.

If you'll redirect yourself to my post, you'll see where I stated that UNTIL THE OP OKS IT, this thread will stay up. Later, QD.

green91

07-22-2009, 08:03 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (5 members and 0 guests)
green91, toxxxic, browningboy7, Mr.Ek9, jcs

ALVIN

07-22-2009, 08:20 PM

Mr. Ek9 you are a wonderful role model for your kids...maybe they will grow up toscrew people over as well.

browningboy7

07-22-2009, 08:40 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (4 members and 0 guests)
browningboy7, toxxxic, Mr.Ek9

Oh Hai, Come out to play.

hondalover00

07-22-2009, 09:22 PM

If I ever see this guy in public, I will personally kick him in the dick. (Since he has no balls for me to kick him in)

Just remember, Mr.Ek9 -- KARMA IS A BITCH.

this is my kinda bitch.....lol

MissCourtney

07-22-2009, 09:25 PM

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MissCourtney, The Creeper, Okie_doke., hondalover00, toxxxic, Mr.Ek9

Wow, i totally found this on my computer from last year.

http://i32.tinypic.com/dz9ua1.jpg

umairejaz

07-22-2009, 09:39 PM

Buying anything used, the wheels should have been inspected upon pick up. I think a refund of a small portion of the money should suffice.

PURP

07-22-2009, 09:43 PM

NO MORE BITCHASSNESS.... MAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR GROWN MAN RESPONSIBILITIES

oneSLOWex

07-22-2009, 09:44 PM

NO MORE BITCHASSNESS.... MAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR GROWN MAN RESPONSIBILITIES
QFT....

STOP BEING A BITCH AND TAKE CARE OF THIS!

hondalover00

07-22-2009, 09:46 PM

Okie_doke.

07-23-2009, 02:39 AM

I had a friend just the other day questioning him about these wheels when he was looking at them up close they didn't seem legit and were sitting on the car wrong

browningboy7

07-23-2009, 03:04 AM

fuck a small portion of the money...they are all fucked up paint and that one wheel cant be rode on at all...thats alot of money to just say owell...he got me....something needs to be done ....i know someone knows how to get in touch with him....where is his house

Well, Def. got fucked...But the problem is he did drop the ball when he didn't inspect the wheels head to toe multiple times. He wasn't buying Rotas here, He def. should have taken a GOOD long look at them before any money changed hands. That being said, He did still get fucked and bitchboy needs to man up and take care of this in an adult way.

Black Mamba

07-23-2009, 09:07 AM

oneSLOWex

07-23-2009, 09:25 AM

Last Activity: Today 10:23 AM
Private Messaging @ 10:23 AM

and the little bitch disabled reps too....hahahahah WEAK

HeLLo iM iZzY

07-23-2009, 09:57 AM

Paint chipping off (yeah, takata green from volk :screwy: ):
WAIT, I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY KNEW THESE WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL COLOR? WHY BRING IT UP AGAIN?

THOSE LOOK LIKE TRUE TAKATA GREEN'S TO ME. THE PAINT CHIPPING IS NORMAL. ANY RIM CAN HAVE THE PAINT CHIPPED OFF OF IT. DID YOU ALSO QUESTION HIM ABOUT THE MINIMAL RUST THERE ON THE BACK? I'M PRETTY SURE 90% OF THE WHEELS HAVE THAT SHIT ON THE BACK TOO.

YOU CHOSE TO MEET UP WITH HIM AT 11 AT NIGHT. YOU COULD'VE WAITED TILL THE DAY LIGHT. BUT EVEN STILL, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THE PROPER INSPECTION. THIS FALLS ALL ON YOU. DO YOU NOT CLEARLY INSPECT SOMETHING BEFORE BUYING IT? ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S THOUSAND DOLLAR PLUS?

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING....IF YOU WERE BUYING A CAR AND I BROUGHT YOU A HONDA CIVIC BUT TOLD YOU IT'S A LAMBO. WOULD YOU GO WITH IT AND SAY YEAH I LOVE YOUR LAMBO, HERE'S THE CASH, OR WOULD YOU INSPECT IT BEFORE YOU PURCHASE IT?

IMO, YOU'RE PISSED AT YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CLEARLY INSPECT THE WHEELS BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THEM AND NOW YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK PFFFFFT.

I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A PENNY BACK. NO ONE PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND SAID BUY THE WHEELS.

IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS DAMAGES AND STUFF, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE WHEELS IN THE FIRST HAND. AND ALSO, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A WHOLEEEEEEEEEEEEE DIFFERENT STORY IF YOU BOUGHT THESE ONLINE FROM SOMEONE BUT INSTEAD YOU BOUGHT THEM IN PERSON.

HOLY FUCK, LOL @ YOU !!!

AND THE DUDE'S FOR SALE THREADS SHOULDN'T BE LOCKED BECAUSE OF SOMEONE'S BEING A PANSY AND NOT DOUBLE CHECKING THE CONDITION OF THE WHEELS.

HeLLo iM iZzY

07-23-2009, 10:09 AM

Sorry bout the caps. I didn't feel like going back and turning them off.

But anyways, I have no idea who he is or have any affiliation with the dude.

The only thing I don't get it is, YOU could've prevented this. So why now after everything was said and done, you're making this thread, you know?

And basically when you handed him the money, you agreed everything was okay, am I right or not? Because if everything was not okay, the money would've never reached his hand? Right?

And also, you mention about a tire needing replacement. Well, he also mentioned that in his for sale thread.

MR2DR

07-23-2009, 10:32 AM

I'm sure carrolton isn't that big..

MR2DR

07-23-2009, 10:32 AM

in case he gets smarter and deletes his pictures :D

What's the point of posting a pic with his tag in it.?
Deleted.

p3tey2

07-23-2009, 11:55 AM

thats sucks hope u get ur money

SiR EG2

07-23-2009, 12:08 PM

SiR EG2, Mr.Ek9, quazar, smoknlegend, khoip88, mud_monkey

850RCT9A

07-23-2009, 12:33 PM

WAIT, I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY KNEW THESE WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL COLOR? WHY BRING IT UP AGAIN?

THOSE LOOK LIKE TRUE TAKATA GREEN'S TO ME. THE PAINT CHIPPING IS NORMAL. ANY RIM CAN HAVE THE PAINT CHIPPED OFF OF IT. DID YOU ALSO QUESTION HIM ABOUT THE MINIMAL RUST THERE ON THE BACK? I'M PRETTY SURE 90% OF THE WHEELS HAVE THAT SHIT ON THE BACK TOO.

YOU CHOSE TO MEET UP WITH HIM AT 11 AT NIGHT. YOU COULD'VE WAITED TILL THE DAY LIGHT. BUT EVEN STILL, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THE PROPER INSPECTION. THIS FALLS ALL ON YOU. DO YOU NOT CLEARLY INSPECT SOMETHING BEFORE BUYING IT? ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S THOUSAND DOLLAR PLUS?

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING....IF YOU WERE BUYING A CAR AND I BROUGHT YOU A HONDA CIVIC BUT TOLD YOU IT'S A LAMBO. WOULD YOU GO WITH IT AND SAY YEAH I LOVE YOUR LAMBO, HERE'S THE CASH, OR WOULD YOU INSPECT IT BEFORE YOU PURCHASE IT?

IMO, YOU'RE PISSED AT YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CLEARLY INSPECT THE WHEELS BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THEM AND NOW YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK PFFFFFT.

I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A PENNY BACK. NO ONE PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND SAID BUY THE WHEELS.

IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS DAMAGES AND STUFF, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE WHEELS IN THE FIRST HAND. AND ALSO, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A WHOLEEEEEEEEEEEEE DIFFERENT STORY IF YOU BOUGHT THESE ONLINE FROM SOMEONE BUT INSTEAD YOU BOUGHT THEM IN PERSON.

HOLY FUCK, LOL @ YOU !!!

AND THE DUDE'S FOR SALE THREADS SHOULDN'T BE LOCKED BECAUSE OF SOMEONE'S BEING A PANSY AND NOT DOUBLE CHECKING THE CONDITION OF THE WHEELS.

I did look the wheels over in the front door light of the gas station. Only from certain angles can you see the spider cracks in the paint. Yes paint chipping is normal but do hubcentric rings come painted too? I don't think so. Whoever painted them used junk paint that cracked and didn't even take the time to remove the ring from the center of the wheel before shooting paint. I don't mind the rust on the back of the wheels, it is normal. I don't care about the tire either I was just posting as much information this thread as possible. It is printed very clearly in his FS thread that one tire is bad. He sold the WHEELS as if they were 100% good to roll. Didn't report or point out any damage.

Why did he go through the trouble of blocking my number with his phone service provider? Why does he refuse to answer my calls, text and pm's? Why did he tell a Mod or Admin that he was working things out with me when I haven't contacted him since the night I bought the wheels? He is a lier and he knows exactly what he's done. I've had numbers of pm's from his friends giving me information about him I haven't asked for. They must know what kind of person he is too. I will ask him kindly to refund my money one more time today and if he chooses not too I will take him to court and have the law make him give it back. I have all the time in the world to do this. I can request off whenever I like.

Let's review his thread again.....
This is the factory color not painted post-purchase. All the wheels are in good shape with no bends or curbs or any kind.

He should have said, "The wheels are painted green and the paint is cracking and flaking off in some areas. One wheel is damaged to the point it can't be used." We'll see if he chooses the cheaper way out instead of going to court. :cheers:

HeLLo iM iZzY

07-23-2009, 01:06 PM

LOL !! When he handed you the wheels, was there a bill of sale signed stating a "return" type of policy? I think not. Because I see it nowhere listed here.

I guarantee you, you WILL NOT win at court.

These wheels were sold AS-IS.

The only way you have winning is if you guys had reached a agreement and wrote it down a.k.a bill of sale. I'm telling you dude, you're gonna waste money for nothing.

07-23-2009, 01:07 PM

He has until 5 PM to respond.

HeLLo iM iZzY

07-23-2009, 01:07 PM

He should have said, "The wheels are painted green and the paint is cracking and flaking off in some areas. One wheel is damaged to the point it can't be used." We'll see if he chooses the cheaper way out instead of going to court. :cheers: And that right there in court, will be your word vs his word.

THIS IS GOING NOWHERE.

850RCT9A

07-23-2009, 01:14 PM

Where do you see SOLD AS IS? Thats not stated as well. lol did he put you up to this??

eYezs1ck

07-23-2009, 01:19 PM

ill throw $ down if OP wins the case. lol think of it as a fund to your loss

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 01:21 PM

And that right there in court, will be your word vs his word.

THIS IS GOING NOWHERE.

Exactly.
No bill of sale.
No agreements.
No warranties.
Wheels bought as is.
Buyer claims to have looked at the wheels but didn't see the damage in question?
Fact of the matter is the situation is shitty, without a doubt, however, it is not the seller's responsibility to inform the buyer of any and every imperfection...Morally and ethically, in a perfect world, this would happen more often than not but reality is, not everyone is going to comport themselves in that manner....The buyer, having the most to lose in situations such as these, should take every precaution available to them to ensure that they are getting the most for their money. To the OP, no harm intended but this transaction should hopefully serve as a lesson towards any future purchases.

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 01:24 PM

Where do you see SOLD AS IS? Thats not stated as well. lol did he put you up to this??

Where he did he imply some sort of return policy or warranty?
I know you're pissed and I understand why however, you should take accountability for your end of this deal.

Additionally, just because someone has an opinion that differs from your own, it is not indicative of any ties to the seller.

Mr.Ek9

07-23-2009, 01:45 PM

This is what just went down..

I will ask you one more time to refund my money please. You sold the wheels to me damaged to the point that I can't use them. Where are the two shift knobs I bought as well? You need to think about how much more money this will cost you if I take you to court. I have no problem doing so if you do not refund my money by 9:00 pm tonight. I have a witness and loads of documents to testify what you've done. Please do not make me take this a step further to the court room. You will end up giving me my money back by court order. My number is 770-714-0134

You have been warned for the last time. Thank you

Look man, I'm sorry that the wheels are "too damaged to ride on", but I do not feel that this is the appropriate step to take. If I recall correctly it was YOU who asked me to meet you that night and I went through the trouble of driving one hour to meet you. You spent 10-15 minutes carefully looking over each wheel before talking me down $100 over some slight damages. It was at this point that you and I struck a deal calling everything square. My TWO witneeses saw and will testify to this; not to mention YOU'RE witness never stepped foot out of the passenger seat, also she was on the phone the whole time. My original pictures for the ad were never photoshopped and I still have them on my memory card to prove it. The ad also states that a tire was bad and that the wheels had no bends or curbs, which they didn't. To my knowledge this was all that was wrong with the wheels, thats why thats all that was in the ad. Not once did you ask for pictures of the rear of the wheels, and if you had I would have kindly obliged. In the end this really is just a serious case of buyers remorse, and will probably end up with you paying 6-10 times more on lawers and court fees, than it would have cost to just replace the ONE "bad" wheel. Not to mention you snooping around and calling my WIFE causing here much unneeded grief, that if you decide to pursue legal action you will receive a counter-suit for damages done to her via emotional distress.

Thanks and good Day

07-23-2009, 01:47 PM

This is what just went down..

Look man, I'm sorry that the wheels are "too damaged to ride on", but I do not feel that this is the appropriate step to take. If I recall correctly it was YOU who asked me to meet you that night and I went through the trouble of driving one hour to meet you. You spent 10-15 minutes carefully looking over each wheel before talking me down $100 over some slight damages. It was at this point that you and I struck a deal calling everything square. My TWO witneeses saw and will testify to this; not to mention YOU'RE witness never stepped foot out of the passenger seat, also she was on the phone the whole time. My original pictures for the ad were never photoshopped and I still have them on my memory card to prove it. The ad also states that a tire was bad and that the wheels had no bends or curbs, which they didn't. To my knowledge this was all that was wrong with the wheels, thats why thats all that was in the ad. Not once did you ask for pictures of the rear of the wheels, and if you had I would have kindly obliged. In the end this really is just a serious case of buyers remorse, and will probably end up with you paying 6-10 times more on lawers and court fees, than it would have cost to just replace the ONE "bad" wheel. Not to mention you snooping around and calling my WIFE causing here much unneeded grief, that if you decide to pursue legal action you will receive a counter-suit for damages done to her.

Thanks and good Day

Thanks for responding. That's all I wanted.

Mr.Ek9

07-23-2009, 01:49 PM

Thanks for responding. That's all I wanted.

You are quite welcome sir. Sorry for the trouble caused directly towards you.
And Sorry QD for my half assed responses.

MissCourtney

07-23-2009, 02:13 PM

these people give ia a bad name.

:thumbsdown:

PURP

07-23-2009, 03:37 PM

This is a shitty situation. I've met the OP a few times. He's a really good guy/no homo. I know his female friend alright. we peoples. I've never met the seller. To the damaged wheel tho, I've ridden on wheels with egg shaped holes before and never had a problem. Just to let you know. I agree that the seller should have taken better detailed pics from the get-go, and he should have gave a very detailed for sale thread. (I.E) the stud bore damage. but I can also agree that the buyer should have asked more detailed questions about them, and should have asked for better detailed photos. Especially for anything over $1000. I hope this situations is resolved and both parties come out good.

toxxxic

07-23-2009, 04:18 PM

Mr.Ek9

07-23-2009, 04:32 PM

Bottom line: Karma's a bitch. Any person with any morals and values would have done the RIGHT thing by refunding the money.

And leaving your wife a voicemail is hardly causing emotional stress. If anything you guys were probably sitting there laughing your asses off about how you royally fucked someone out of $1200 dollars. Like Alvin said a few posts back, you're setting a prime example for your children.

I highly doubt that I am setting a bad example. And since I already have two kids I think I know more than 95% of the people who posted in this thread on that subject. And if that is hardly emotional stress then I guess you see the true severity of the case you two are presenting. I may be wrong on the moral area, but hardly in the law.

FrostHatch

07-23-2009, 04:36 PM

OMG_TSX

07-23-2009, 04:38 PM

This is what just went down..

Look man, I'm sorry that the wheels are "too damaged to ride on", but I do not feel that this is the appropriate step to take. If I recall correctly it was YOU who asked me to meet you that night and I went through the trouble of driving one hour to meet you. You spent 10-15 minutes carefully looking over each wheel before talking me down $100 over some slight damages. It was at this point that you and I struck a deal calling everything square. My TWO witneeses saw and will testify to this; not to mention YOU'RE witness never stepped foot out of the passenger seat, also she was on the phone the whole time. My original pictures for the ad were never photoshopped and I still have them on my memory card to prove it. The ad also states that a tire was bad and that the wheels had no bends or curbs, which they didn't. To my knowledge this was all that was wrong with the wheels, thats why thats all that was in the ad. Not once did you ask for pictures of the rear of the wheels, and if you had I would have kindly obliged. In the end this really is just a serious case of buyers remorse, and will probably end up with you paying 6-10 times more on lawers and court fees, than it would have cost to just replace the ONE "bad" wheel. Not to mention you snooping around and calling my WIFE causing here much unneeded grief, that if you decide to pursue legal action you will receive a counter-suit for damages done to her via emotional distress.

Thanks and good Day

Case-closed ! OP you have been:anal: :anal: :anal: ...just admit it and move on.

ps. YOUshould have nvr posted this thread and just sold them to someone else!!! like i did :doh:

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 04:42 PM

If the wheels had been purchased from an online used wheel retailer, they wouldn't have returned the items in question either..

The seller responded and at this point, there's no justification in keeping this thread going.

toxxxic

07-23-2009, 04:42 PM

ps. YOUshould have nvr posted this thread and just sold them to someone else!!! like i did :doh:

some people have a conscience and dont feel right selling TRASH to another person and fucking them over. :goodjob:

umairejaz

07-23-2009, 04:49 PM

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 04:50 PM

some people have a conscience and dont feel right selling TRASH to another person and fucking them over. :goodjob:

If someone allows themselves to be "fucked over", as you deem this , by not taking the proper precautions and interest in a. the item being considered for purchase and b. giving away one's hard earned money then one should not play the role of a victim.

I can only speak for myself in saying that if I was going to spend 1k plus on wheels then best believe I am going to ensure that what I'm getting is what I want to spend my 1k on.

toxxxic

07-23-2009, 04:50 PM

Bottom line: anybody with common sense would have inspected the wheels thoroughly before spending $1200. This isnt walmart, cant just return shit you buy. Im a friend of the seller and was with him when he sold them, the guy looked over the wheels for a solid 30min and took them. In no way did the seller force him to meet at night or force him to buy "bad wheels." The inside of the wheels dont even show and even the bbs wheels i ride on have egg shaped bolt holes (no problems). Man up and deal with your decision to buy them.

So basically you're admitting for you AND your friend that you guys pulled a fast one on the OP?

If you OR your friend honestly did not know there was anything wrong with the wheel, dont you think you'd be standing up for the fact that you didnt know there was anything wrong vs. the fact that the OP is "lacking common sense" ??

LOL, you should keep your mouth shut before you dig your friends hole even deeper. *print*

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 04:53 PM

After hearing both sides and opinions of others in regards to egg shaped bolt holes, (which I have no prior experience in).... I believe the wheels are far from trash, and this situation is far from being a total loss. You need to realize this is just a simple case of buyer’s remorse.

Btw: Op will not win in court.... LOL.

Seriously.
The OP should consult with an attorney before making meritless threats in regards to litigation when said threats could do the OP more harm than good.

FrostHatch

07-23-2009, 05:00 PM

So basically you're admitting for you AND your friend that you guys pulled a fast one on the OP?

If you OR your friend honestly did not know there was anything wrong with the wheel, dont you think you'd be standing up for the fact that you didnt know there was anything wrong vs. the fact that the OP is "lacking common sense" ??

LOL, you should keep your mouth shut before you dig your friends hole even deeper. *print*

wow you read into that wrong.. what i said was.. the buyer should have looked over them better if they really are in that bad of shape. Never did I say we pulled a fast one. HE (buyer) wanted to meet at night, HE looked over them for 30min, HE decided to buy them after inspecting them and noticing damages and negotiated a lower price. I never noticed that the bolt holes where "egg shaped" which isnt a big deal in my experience. The buyer had every chance to back out of the deal and was never forced to buy. Stop crying over not buying mint wheels and end this shit.

umairejaz

07-23-2009, 05:15 PM

As far as I see it, OP really has two semi valid claims which both can be dispelled.

1. Egg shaped holes: This is dismissed because others have said it is not an uncommon symptom with used wheels and do not affect the overall function of the wheels. If this bothers the buyer to the extent of this thread, it should have been looked for prior to purchase.

2. Lights spider cracks in paint (up close): This is dismissed as well, because with paint alterations, light cracks can easily appear and should be looked for at POS. This goes for the paint chips as well. The buyers accepted the -100 discount for such accounts and an agreement was then reached when both parties traded hands.

I believe the sellers name should be cleared from any further slander.

TIGERJC

07-23-2009, 05:18 PM

Case-closed ! OP you have been:anal: :anal: :anal: ...just admit it and move on.

ps. YOUshould have nvr posted this thread and just sold them to someone else!!! like i did :doh:
Note to self, never buy shit from this GUY:toan.ma

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 05:19 PM

Note to self, never buy shit from this GUY:toan.ma

:lmfao:

You just made me LIRL.

FrostHatch

07-23-2009, 05:23 PM

Note to self, never buy shit from this GUY:toan.ma

hahaha good point.

And thank you umairejaz for your unbiased opinion :goodjob:

850RCT9A

07-23-2009, 05:48 PM

If the seller did nothing wrong and had no idea of the damaged wheel please answer these questions.....

-Why did he go three full days without responding to my calls, text, pm's and call outs?

-Why did he lie to a mod/admin about straightening things out with me?

-Why have I not recieved the two shift knobs I gave him cash for?

-He says he lost my number, why did he not contact me through i.a. or answer the number of phone calls I made?

(My favorite) -Why did he block my number through his cell phone service provider within 12-14 hours after I bought the wheels from him?

I see what everyone is saying from your view and mine, but for these questions to go unseen and ANSWERED is crazy. The truth is that I was tricked. No one would buy the wheels if they knew that so why say anything......his thoughts. Weird how the wheel with the torn up tire was the one with damage. Everyone has stories, I haven't had a problem with my wheels and they have oblong holes and so on and so on. This can cause the lug nuts to viberate loose and the wheel might fall off. I know thats a lot of work for the nuts to viberate all the way off but it happens on the track all the time. Wheels aren't torqued and they viberate off. What happens when you drive around on a loose wheel? The studs oval out the holes in the wheel. I have seen a wheel continue to loosen and come off the car even after torquing the nuts into oval shaped holes. That is why I can not use these and would like my money back. What else does everyone have to tell me other than I didn't inspect them well enough?

BobbyFresco

07-23-2009, 05:59 PM

There's one key thing you are missing.
YOU are spending money.
YOU are spending what I presume to be YOUR hard earned money...and even if you aren't spending hard earned money, YOU are spending money all the same.

Regardless of whether or not the seller informed you of any and every imperfection the wheels may have, it is your duty and responsibility as the BUYER to make sure that YOU are spending YOUR money on something that is satisfactory to YOU.

Buyer Beware. This adage exists for a reason.

and also...if you initiated contact regarding your unsatisfaction with the wheels, with a third of the ire you have displayed in this thread, it would stand to reason that no one would want to deal with you in a favorable manner.

quickdodge®

07-23-2009, 06:52 PM

You know what? Fuck this.

OP. I'm sorry you got fucked. And I feel you did. But in a sense, you helped the seller fuck you. You "took the time that you thought was necessary" and, after a bit of haggling, agreed on a deal. That was YOUR mistake, dude.

Seller. Let this be a lesson to you. And ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE!!! Do NOT make arrangements to meet up to sell/buy anything in the dark. It doesn't matter how much light you have. You fucked the OP and you know you did. But the deal went down and that's just how it is.

All in all, this isn't like an engine where you can't check internals to see if they are fucked up. These are wheels where you can see everything that could be wrong. If you didn't see it, that's on you.

This will go nowhere so OP, be careful next time and seller, don't try fucking anyone on here again. Now eyes will be on you, man.

Later, QD.