Is this Road Atlanta?

[DieselNuts]

Is it?

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/diggler24/RoadAtlanta.jpg

[Nemesis]

Yep

[larossa9]

yesssir

[zakkkaliscious]

yes, es turns after the first turn.

[JEY$JDM]

..looks like it!

[roscoe]

fo sho dems the esses

[DieselNuts]

word up. Thanks. I thought it was, just needed confirmation.

[Sentra]

Everyone had to go check forza 2 really quick.

[BKgen®]

Everyone had to go check forza 2 really quick.

If you've been there enough times, you don't have to check shit.

[matthewAPM]

Yeah that is RA. The picture was taken before the paving and way before the wall move. Picture is taken from top of esses.

[Black4DrEK]

yep it sure is.... Thats a nice pic!!

[slow_hatch]

That's a pretty old pic

[Ol' Gregg]

yeppers

[Sentra]

If you've been there enough times, you don't have to check shit.

this is exactly what I was waiting for.

[Elbow]

Haha damn that is old, I forgot how close that wall is. This is turn 4 technically.

[Brian*]

Good pic lol road atlanta? sure*

[Elbow]

^Huh?

[chuck]

ok...so now that everyone has agreed i'll question it...the turns all look quite similar but it doesn't look like much of a hill to the left in the picture, looks more like trees down below instead of the bathhouse up on the hill there.

of course most of us were not hanging out there 10 years ago either...or this is newer than i think...but i'll be the first to question if its even road atlanta...and yes i've been there plenty of times and been around the track quite a bit too.

no doubt at all it looks a ton like it but i'm honestly not %100 convinced that it is RA...just to stir things up, lol.

[Sentra]

I think the photo might be playin your eyes a bit.

[Elbow]

ok...so now that everyone has agreed i'll question it...the turns all look quite similar but it doesn't look like much of a hill to the left in the picture, looks more like trees down below instead of the bathhouse up on the hill there.

of course most of us were not hanging out there 10 years ago either...or this is newer than i think...but i'll be the first to question if its even road atlanta...and yes i've been there plenty of times and been around the track quite a bit too.

no doubt at all it looks a ton like it but i'm honestly not %100 convinced that it is RA...just to stir things up, lol.

I hope you're kidding...lol.

That's 394883% Road Atlanta, been there all my life, I work there, I do track days there, it's Road Atlanta. It's before the walls in the esses were moved back, you don't see 5's corner station because it's further up the hill a little. I mean look at the damn tire walls. Look at the clay. Look at the line. :screwy:

THIS IS ROAD ATLANTA. The picture looks edited anyway. :gay:

[redblackfan]

yep

[EJ25RUN]

Good thread.

I'll admit i wasn't sure at first. Had to turn my head to see it.

[dazn]

thats not RA.
that looks like silver dollar, after Ive had a couple. :D

[DavidV]

If you've been there enough times, you don't have to check shit.

or if you have played forza 2 enough, you dont have to check. :D

[2turbo4u]

No it's not, it's forza 2!

[chuck]

I hope you're kidding...lol.

That's 394883% Road Atlanta, been there all my life, I work there, I do track days there, it's Road Atlanta. It's before the walls in the esses were moved back, you don't see 5's corner station because it's further up the hill a little. I mean look at the damn tire walls. Look at the clay. Look at the line. :screwy:

THIS IS ROAD ATLANTA. The picture looks edited anyway. :gay:

i dunno...i was thinking this was kinda right in front of the corner station, kinda right at the cut through if anything...but then was looking for the bathhouse hill??

lol, i hope i don't make the wrong turns next weekend...will you be working the next NASA weekend? look for me in the green E36 and chris in the black Z4.

[Elbow]

Things look blurred out, like there are no visible curbs.

I'll be working yeah, but I work for Road Atlanta not NASA.

[chuck]

Things look blurred out, like there are no visible curbs.

I'll be working yeah, but I work for Road Atlanta not NASA.

cool...should see you there!! get the blue flag ready for the Z4 :gay:
hopefully not too many yellows for my E36, lol

[speedminded]

That pic is really old, doesn't even have the rumble strips/alligators on the inside of the turns.


This is the exact opposite view looking at the same turns...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Road_atlanta_esses.JPG

[eg mike]

What they all said ^^^

[Elbow]

Haha will do. :goodjob:


cool...should see you there!! get the blue flag ready for the Z4 :gay:
hopefully not too many yellows for my E36, lol

[chuck]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/diggler24/RoadAtlanta.jpg
so looking at this and jasons post (saw you at the bmw shop the other day BTW)...if you take the above picture and draw a line from the guys front axle straight to the right...whatever turn you want to call that...is that not going downhill in the about picture?? but its where the uphill starts at RA

that is throwing me off too...

and yes everyone...at a glance it does still look %789078907 like RA, but i'm still wondering...believe it or not there are esses downhill at other tracks, not just in the most famous photo spot at road atl....lol

so anyone have a guess at the date?? and what year did the xb's come out anyhow??

[speedminded]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/diggler24/RoadAtlanta.jpg

so looking at this and jasons post (saw you at the bmw shop the other day BTW)...if you take the above picture and draw a line from the guys front axle straight to the right...whatever turn you want to call that...is that not going downhill in the about picture?? but its where the uphill starts at RA

that is throwing me off too...

and yes everyone...at a glance it does still look %789078907 like RA, but i'm still wondering...believe it or not there are esses downhill at other tracks, not just in the most famous photo spot at road atl....lol

so anyone have a guess at the date?? and what year did the xb's come out anyhow??They leveled off the area at turn 4. Most of the old asphalt that got dug up when they rearranged the track (and i think everything they cut out at 12) was then put at the bottom of turn 4 and they filled over the top of it and repaved everything. I can't remember the exact amount but I am thinking it's in the range of several hundred truck loads of fill and debri is under where turn 4 is today...it was completed at the beginning of last year with a few of the earlier season events having to be postponed or canceled.

[Elbow]

The picture COULD even be photoshopped, but it's Road Atlanta. The racing line, the color dirt, the trees, the tire wall, all of that is 100% Road Atlanta.

[Elbow]

They leveled off the area at turn 4. Most of the old asphalt that got dug up when they rearranged the track (and i think everything they cut out at 12) was then put at the bottom of turn 4 and they filled over the top of it and repaved everything. I can't remember the exact amount but I am thinking it's in the range of several hundred truck loads of fill and debri under where turn 4 is today...

Turn 4 as in the entry of the esses? I've never heard that, why would they have?

[speedminded]

Turn 4 as in the entry of the esses? I've never heard that, why would they have?Motorcycles mostly. Remember the HUGE amount that was cut out of 12 to make that turn safer? They took the outside wall of 12 and moved it all the way back to the road in front of the helicopter pad. That concrete wall and all that dirt was all trucked over to turn 4 leveling out the low spot then they paved over it. This was all done AFTER they repaved the entire track otherwise they would have lost the account for the 2 largest motorcycle races.

That's why all the pics of the essess that are over a year old look so different.

[chuck]

They leveled off the area at turn 4. Most of the old asphalt that got dug up when they rearranged the track (and i think everything they cut out at 12) was then put at the bottom of turn 4 and they filled over the top of it and repaved everything. I can't remember the exact amount but I am thinking it's in the range of several hundred truck loads of fill and debri is under where turn 4 is today...it was completed at the beginning of last year with a few of the earlier season events having to be postponed or canceled.


oooooooooooooook, now i get it...thanks man, didn't know any of that history...knew something was off.

guess now i can go with the masses... "duh, looks JUST LIKE forza!!!" ('cept it doesn't ;) )

[speedminded]

Here's after they cut the outside of turn 12 out (what you see today)...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TW0J2ESWowA/R-PPF6mt-QI/AAAAAAAAARg/g9FdGAcg91Y/s400/SchwantzSchoolMar08005.jpg


This is what it looked like before a year and a half ago ago...

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/7737736.jpg


Here's after they repaved it but before the outside of 12 and pit lane was changed...with the new pavement the bikes would be going too fast through 12 and the outside was already too dangerous as it was. A couple go-kart riders, one being female, died hitting the outside wall at 12.

http://blarneyquick.info/images/kieron_mooney_trackday/road_atlanta_turn_11.jpg

[Elbow]

Motorcycles mostly. Remember the HUGE amount that was cut out of 12 to make that turn safer? They took the outside wall of 12 and moved it all the way back to the road in front of the helicopter pad. That concrete wall and all that dirt was all trucked over to turn 4 leveling out the low spot then they paved over it. This was all done AFTER they repaved the entire track otherwise they would have lost the account for the 2 largest motorcycle races.

That's why all the pics of the essess that are over a year old look so different.

Yeah I know the motorcycle additions, such a STUPID turn in the esses. :lmfao:

OK, so you mean they added it where they put the new chicane in there? That makes sense.

[speedminded]

Yeah I know the motorcycle additions, such a STUPID turn in the esses. :lmfao:

OK, so you mean they added it where they put the new chicane in there? That makes sense.yeah, the entire pit lane and the hill on the outside of turn 12 was dug up and trucked over to the lowest part of the esses starting at turn 4 (technically the entire area between 4 and 5 was raised).

[Elbow]

BUT added at the new chicane? Not on the actual real course?

The new chicane in 4 was the biggest fail I have seen. We had so many offs in the AMA test day last year, then last years first AMA practice we had over 40 offs before lunch, then decided to use the old esses.

[speedminded]

BUT added at the new chicane? Not on the actual real course?

The new chicane in 4 was the biggest fail I have seen. We had so many offs in the AMA test day last year, then last years first AMA practice we had over 40 offs before lunch, then decided to use the old esses.They moved the walls back away from the esses, all the fill and debri from 12 was used under the new barriers that is further from the track. I was told the esses were raised but from the photos i can't tell. The exact quote from a director while they were doing the changes was, "they were straightening the barriers and leveling the esses with the fill from 12".

[Elbow]

Weird, I don't remember them doing that, and the dip at the bottom of the esses is still a mud pit lol. I know they moved the wall back, I figured you meant made the new chicane in the esses level, even though it's still off camber.

[bbuba]

well if you look at the picture properties the pic name has RA in it
DUH

[blacknightteg]

this is definitely road atl before panoz bought it and began renovation

[Black4DrEK]

My pic of Road Atlanta on Forza 2... cant wait for the third one...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp135/black4drek/17ebc2c0-4297-4aed-bab1-77ae3c6747d.jpg

[GSRteg®]

Like everyone else said YUP!

[Elbow]

this is definitely road atl before panoz bought it and began renovation

I thought that too, which it may be. I was looking for the high dirt walls.

[speedminded]

this is definitely road atl before panoz bought it and began renovationNegative, Don Panoz bought it in '96 and the bike is a Buell XB9R...first built in 2002. The only changes to the track until it was paved in 2007/08 was the 10a/10b chicayne to make it FIA approved ('97), the infield paddock, and the drift loop ('05). Then after it was repaved the walls were moved at Turn 12 and 4 in 2008.


Another view of the bike as it sits in turn 4 looking down the esses towards 5:

http://www.motorbikestoday.com/gallery/images/Buell-XB9R-track.jpg

[chuck]

how'd we look out there this weekend simon??

[Elbow]

What were you in? lol

[chuck]

What were you in? lol

the dark green e36...the slow one.
chris had his z4 out between brake issues.

here are my "forza" pictures, :D :
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1oGXD6qBYgg/SjbYz11VimI/AAAAAAAABa8/UE-paF5I22I/s576/DSC_5678.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1oGXD6qBYgg/SjbP5am03yI/AAAAAAAABNA/JGN1R6w7RWk/s576/DSC_5491.JPG

[Elbow]

Yeah! I knew that was Chris I didn't know what you were driving though. Did you enjoy it? I'll be back out with NASA next time I hope, I haven't been on track with them in a while.

[chuck]

Yeah! I knew that was Chris I didn't know what you were driving though. Did you enjoy it? I'll be back out with NASA next time I hope, I haven't been on track with them in a while.

tons of fun, felt bad for holding up the high hp cars between the straights but oh well...i was giving her all she had, its just the 318, 4-bangin...was enough to pull away from chris through the esses there. DE1 is tons of fun but i wish we could pass in corners, that's my only real advantage with that car is out braking the bigger cars...deff not a bit of straight line power, lol.

you gonna be driving your mazda out there??

[Elbow]

As long as you had fun who cares how fast the car is. :goodjob:

I actually got rid of the Miata. :( It was a blast out there. I got a Porsche 914 but sold that now have an E30 I am throwing together as a track rat.

[chuck]

As long as you had fun who cares how fast the car is. :goodjob:

I actually got rid of the Miata. :( It was a blast out there. I got a Porsche 914 but sold that now have an E30 I am throwing together as a track rat.

i could care less about going fast....being quick on the other hand, that's my goal...having fun is always good too, won't be out there when i stop having fun

...big 2:00 lap times, lol.

[AnthonyF]

thats not RA.
that looks like silver dollar, after Ive had a couple. :D:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao ::lmfao:

-Ant.