Obama to adopt "Preventitive Indefinite Detention"

[warpd]

Obama is going to adopt "Preventitive Indefinite detention". Holding people that they feel will commmit crimes in the future.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/22/preventive_detention/index.html

[The Ninja]

Part of the new Pre-Crime division of DARPA.

[ShooterMcGavin]

minority report here we come...

[mocha latte cupcake]

minority report here we come...

took the words right outta my mouth.

[Total_Blender]

(1) What does "preventive detention" allow?

It's important to be clear about what "preventive detention" authorizes. It does not merely allow the U.S. Government to imprison people alleged to have committed Terrorist acts yet who are unable to be convicted in a civilian court proceeding. That class is merely a subset, perhaps a small subset, of who the Government can detain. Far more significant, "preventive detention" allows indefinite imprisonment not based on proven crimes or past violations of law, but of those deemed generally "dangerous" by the Government for various reasons (such as, as Obama put it yesterday, they "expressed their allegiance to Osama bin Laden" or "otherwise made it clear that they want to kill Americans"). That's what "preventive" means: imprisoning people because the Government claims they are likely to engage in violent acts in the future because they are alleged to be "combatants."




Did you guys even read the article? Or did you just see the title and come up with some negative shit about Obama and post? I know most of you conservo-bots support GITMO so I assume that you are all in favor of detaining the suspected terrorists untill they can be tried in the proper fashion.





The article says that right wing groups have been pushing for this since at least 2004, and the support among right wingers has been evident as Dick Cheney is now the new hero of the party. I really see this as Obama giving you guys what you want.




Do I agree with it myself? Hell no, I don't. But when I look at it within the context of the GITMO issue at large and the pressure Obama is under for Cheney and the "Fox News" crowd, I see this as him caving in to them.

[ShooterMcGavin]

lol so instead of the previous policy of detaining ppl actually LINKED to terrorism, he's now allowing a new policy allowing the detention of ppl who they THINK could be linked to terrorism? i mean damn, freedom of speech be damned i better watch what i say bc it doesn't seem like it'd take a lot to be considered "likely to engage in violent acts". :rolleyes:

[Total_Blender]

I think people under the previous administration were "suspected" of terrorism as well, with little if any hard evidence. I know some of the folks they tried have been found innocent. It seems to me that nothing has really changed as far as detaining the suspects indefinitely, only that they made it the official policy instead of the unofficial policy.