I'm drunk enough to say this....

[james]

This is an open apology to all those whose thread I have "shat" in with criticism. Look - I go to school for photography. The things my teachers say to me with bad pictures is far FAR FAR worse than the things I have ever said to anyone on here. I am sorry if you can't take criticism, but that is not what this thread is about. This thread is more about the fact that the teachers at my school critique a photo until it is dissected to a point of no return. I think I am tainted by this. I have gone through some old threads and realize that maybe it wasn't the right way of approaching it. People want constructive criticism, and thats fine by me, but without regular criticism in general, I really don't think people learn from anything. When I post something -rare, I know- I want people to tear it apart so that I learn from my mistakes and I honestly take it in so that I know what people want to see. Art and photography and paintings and everything is totally SUBJECTIVE. This means when someone likes something and says "yo dawg sweet pics +reps" yeah they may like it but someone else may not. You have to take it with a grain of salt. That is what critique is all about. When people as for C&C, you have to dig in and tear it apart until you get to the bottom of it - otherwise nobody learns shit.

I really hate to read old threads where people hate to see what I write, or others write. It is YOUR work. Take pride in that. That is all you CAN do. I read some old threads of Hotshot and Kamikaze where I didn't care for the work. That is where the subjective form comes in. Just because I didn't like it doesn't mean that you don't or do like it. Please accept this. This past weekend I met both Hotshot and Kamikaze for the first time. They are some really nice people. REALLY nice people. We had a good time shooting, and I hope we can do it again sometime. So I hope I and anyone else that has critiqued an image has come across as a positive force and not a negative one.

james

[NewGen33]

What are you sippin on...

[james]

What are you sippin on...

lol. $2 high lifes. you can imagine that I didn't have just one. ;)


but that needed to be said... I hope it came across as what I wanted to say. Hopefully tomorrow I won't totally regret it like all the rest of the stuff I say on the internet when I've been drinking.

[NewGen33]

LOL I feel you...You can always delete it in the morning when you realize what you did. Either way you got some green from me.

[NewGen33]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to james again. Sorry man next time...

[Bus Driver J]

This is an open apology to all those whose thread I have "shat" in with criticism. Look - I go to school for photography. The things my teachers say to me with bad pictures is far FAR FAR worse than the things I have ever said to anyone on here. I am sorry if you can't take criticism, but that is not what this thread is about. This thread is more about the fact that the teachers at my school critique a photo until it is dissected to a point of no return. I think I am tainted by this. I have gone through some old threads and realize that maybe it wasn't the right way of approaching it. People want constructive criticism, and thats fine by me, but without regular criticism in general, I really don't think people learn from anything. When I post something -rare, I know- I want people to tear it apart so that I learn from my mistakes and I honestly take it in so that I know what people want to see. Art and photography and paintings and everything is totally SUBJECTIVE. This means when someone likes something and says "yo dawg sweet pics +reps" yeah they may like it but someone else may not. You have to take it with a grain of salt. That is what critique is all about. When people as for C&C, you have to dig in and tear it apart until you get to the bottom of it - otherwise nobody learns shit.

I really hate to read old threads where people hate to see what I write, or others write. It is YOUR work. Take pride in that. That is all you CAN do. I read some old threads of Hotshot and Kamikaze where I didn't care for the work. That is where the subjective form comes in. Just because I didn't like it doesn't mean that you don't or do like it. Please accept this. This past weekend I met both Hotshot and Kamikaze for the first time. They are some really nice people. REALLY nice people. We had a good time shooting, and I hope we can do it again sometime. So I hope I and anyone else that has critiqued an image has come across as a positive force and not a negative one.

james
He can delete all he wants in the morning but hes been quoted :ninja:

For those of you who dont really know James, hes not a dickhead at all. Hes a homo from time to time but his criticism of pictures isnt the "normal" him.
I luv you James (all homo :))

[james]

He can delete all he wants in the morning but hes been quoted :ninja:

For those of you who dont really know James, hes not a dickhead at all. Hes a homo from time to time but his criticism of pictures isnt the "normal" him.
I luv you James (all homo :))

nah man its cool. i mean it. i've been wanting to say it for a long time. honestly sometimes i wish i never went to college. I think that most mornings.
but seriously, im not a dickhead. and im not a homo at all.

for those of you that don't know bus driver j- hes not a dickhead at all, but i will DESTROY him in a game of pool.

lol. jk. or am i?

[Bus Driver J]

That shouldnt be hard. I suck at pool. I lost to a chick last night... FML

[james]

That shouldnt be hard. I suck at pool. I lost to a chick last night... FML


well no deleting this tomorrow. :crazy:

[Bus Driver J]

No delete necessary. Not the first time Ive lost to her but Ive betten her many times before so no big deal. Youd be surprised how good some of the chicks in the league are.

[.blank cd]

sweet pics dude. +reps!

[Mr. Clean]

lulz ^


but good criticism is awesome. in my creative writing class we had full critiques of a lot of our work and it was really good to hear the nitty gritty shit. what people REALLY think of your work. i mean if you just get an ass pat all through your life then you'll think you're the shit all the way until someone finally tells you the truth. it's in everyone's best interest to hear peoples' honest opinions. take the opinion how you will, but if the consensus is that your shit sucks.... then no matter how awesome you think it is... it probably needs polishing.

keep criticizing... just don't be a dick about it. be objectively honest.