Straight line races only rule

[On_Her_Face]

Vote.

[SmackedInATL]

Who the fuck has called someone to twisties?

[OnURleft]

This is the most homo pole ever. The killsforum has always enjoyed video's of road racing and what not when they do show up. No one would deny wanting to see Nicks Evo lapping Road A, or one of the E46's/360 I drive, or any of the Z06's. There is no question there, it's entertaining when you are board....

Why don't you make a real poll, like ""Ban O.T motherfuckers who bring up road racing in drag racing threads" poll. That actually makes sense.

[whatever210]

i ask to tandem? no one wants to go

[On_Her_Face]

This is the most homo pole ever. The killsforum has always enjoyed video's of road racing and what not when they do show up. No one would deny wanting to see Nicks Evo lapping Road A, or one of the E46's/360 I drive, or any of the Z06's. There is no question there, it's entertaining when you are board....

Why don't you make a real poll, like ""Ban O.T motherfuckers who bring up road racing in drag racing threads" poll. That actually makes sense.

Listen here shit lips, its bored.

[tdurr]

This is the most homo pole ever. The killsforum has always enjoyed video's of road racing and what not when they do show up. No one would deny wanting to see Nicks Evo lapping Road A, or one of the E46's/360 I drive, or any of the Z06's. There is no question there, it's entertaining when you are board....

Why don't you make a real poll, like ""Ban O.T motherfuckers who bring up road racing in drag racing threads" poll. That actually makes sense.

good post. u get reps.

[DirtyMechanic]

i ask to tandem? no one wants to gopssttt drifting isnt racing... its a competition:goodjob:

[IndianStig]

A kill is a kill wheather its on a road course or on a drag strip.

[whatever210]

pssttt drifting isnt racing... its a competition:goodjob:
true but its all about having fun while doing it

[DirtyMechanic]

A kill is a kill wheather its on a road course or on a drag strip.mtns.... fool mtns....

[IndianStig]

mtns.... fool mtns....

drifting in the mtns?????? :crazy:

[DirtyMechanic]

drifting in the mtns?????? :crazy:unless its a 4-wheel drift then no...

[On_Her_Face]

Mehul, you have never had a RWD car, don't talk about drifting.

[DirtyMechanic]

Mehul, you have never had a RWD car, don't talk about drifting.1st rule of drifting... dont talk about drifting. geez fuckin' noobs:lmfao:

[OnURleft]

Listen here shit lips, its bored.

Read my avatar, I exempted 2nd year English for a reason homie. I don got time to proof read dis shit

[IndianStig]

Mehul, you have never had a RWD car, don't talk about drifting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMQkMvRG3I

Ask Rocky, I had the prelude sideways on blood mtn.....in the wet.

[Vteckidd]

Overruled, the kills forum is for all types of racing. Roll , Dig, Drag, Mountain, Time Attack, whatever.

Anyone caught deleting someones post of a thread because its not "drag racing" is not going to like the consequences

Thacker you can moderate this forum but you abide by the SITE RULES and the FORUM RULES. You dont get to change them

[OnURleft]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMQkMvRG3I

Ask Rocky, I had the prelude sideways on blood mtn.....in the wet.

lol you were plowing that ish sideways

[On_Her_Face]

Overruled by Mr. Kidd, however, I'm not giving the password out to people that will do that shit in the KF.

Mr. Kidd put something in the rule pertaining to not mentioning take it to the mountains as an excuse for not racing in a straight line.

[IndianStig]

Yeah, but I will change it to not using lets run in the mountains as an excuss or something along those lines.


Yah, that excuse is a bitch.

[Vteckidd]

Yeah, but I will change it to not using lets run in the mountains as an excuss or something along those lines.
Yeah of course thats gay, but let the man post some videos, who cares about that.

[On_Her_Face]

No that is not what I was aiming at. I told onurleft in a PM i was going to change it so they could post all that bs.

I don't think threads about challenging people to a race in the mountains should be allowed.

[IndianStig]

I don't think threads about challenging people to a race in the mountains should be allowed.

Why not? Just cause you don't like to race in the twisties doesn't mean there aren't people on IA that do. I mean shit, if they are stupid enough to do it then why not let us laugh our asses off as one of them slides off the road?

[OnURleft]

Why not? Just cause you don't like to race in the twisties doesn't mean there aren't people on IA that do. I mean shit, if they are stupid enough to do it then why not let us laugh our asses off as one of them slides off the road?

It's off topic when you post about it in a different type of racing thread and it's very annoying..

Billy, was referring to this..

6) No talk of any racing except of some type of straight line racing. First offense 1 week ban, Second 2 week ban, Third Permaban from KF.

Which needs to be removed and changed and that's all I have been talking about

[On_Her_Face]

Why not? Just cause you don't like to race in the twisties doesn't mean there aren't people on IA that do. I mean shit, if they are stupid enough to do it then why not let us laugh our asses off as one of them slides off the road?

I like spirited driving, hell I live 20 minutes from the dragon, but I just don't think it should be allowed.

[IndianStig]

I like spirited driving, hell I live 20 minutes from the dragon, but I just don't think it should be allowed.

Well shit, you're the mod, not any of us...make it happen lol.

[DirtyMechanic]

No that is not what I was aiming at. I told onurleft in a PM i was going to change it so they could post all that bs.

I don't think threads about challenging people to a race in the mountains should be allowed.why not. its a change of terms of the callout. weather the first person calls out someone in the mountains or in a 1/4 strip. the person can say naw id rather do it "___________." weather it be in the mtns or on the 1/4 strip or street. its a term of a race. now weather its accepted or denied is all up to the person who calls someone out and the person who gets called out. its a term nothing more nothing less. like a dig or roll or street or strip.

[DirtyMechanic]

I like spirited driving, hell I live 20 minutes from the dragon, but I just don't think it should be allowed.:goodjob: :no: :2up: :taun:

[IndianStig]

why not. its a change of terms of the callout. weather the first person calls out someone in the mountains or in a 1/4 strip. the person can say naw id rather do it "___________." weather it be in the mtns or on the 1/4 strip or street. its a term of a race. now weather its accepted or denied is all up to the person who calls someone out and the person who gets called out. its a term nothing more nothing less. like a dig or roll or street or strip.


:smackass:

[DirtyMechanic]

Why not? Just cause you don't like to race in the twisties doesn't mean there aren't people on IA that do. I mean shit, if they are stupid enough to do it then why not let us laugh our asses off as one of them slides off the road?if you dont know your limits and fall off trying to keep up with someone faster.. then you deserve to fall off. simple as that.

[NAMNORI]

if you dont know your limits and fall off trying to keep up with someone faster.. then you deserve to fall off. simple as that.

x2. skill is needed in the mountains i mean come on who wouldn't want to see a prius do a four wheel slide???

[btstone]

Yeah of course thats gay, but let the man post some videos, who cares about that.


sniff..sniff, i knew i smelled smome bitch in here. whats up big baller. heard u can post 40k to emabarass an 18 yr old...lol....king of IA..lol

[Vteckidd]

sniff..sniff, i knew i smelled smome bitch in here. whats up big baller. heard u can post 40k to emabarass an 18 yr old...lol....king of IA..lol
LOL funny picking on a 18 year old, its too easy.

Every get your car back running?

[btstone]

LOL funny picking on a 18 year old, its too easy.

Every get your car back running?

helll naw, its at inline pro so they can figure whats wrong with the tranny, the tranny is prob going back to PPG. i think i got a lemon tranny and they are gonna give me another because the some dumb shit on it keeps breaking and no one can figure out why

[Vteckidd]

helll naw, its at inline pro so they can figure whats wrong with the tranny, the tranny is prob going back to PPG. i think i got a lemon tranny and they are gonna give me another because the some dumb shit on it keeps breaking and no one can figure out why
That sucks man, but you know thats the name of the game when you make a shitload of power lol

Did you have just a "stronger" gearset in your car or was it like a dogbox tranny/straight cut gears etc?

Surprises me no one makes like an adapter to bolt a supra tranny up with all the 2JZ S2000s around.

[btstone]

That sucks man, but you know thats the name of the game when you make a shitload of power lol

Did you have just a "stronger" gearset in your car or was it like a dogbox tranny/straight cut gears etc?

Surprises me no one makes like an adapter to bolt a supra tranny up with all the 2JZ S2000s around.

i didnt get the dog box,,,,i was told its too hard to drive on the street by PPG. i got titanium syncros, straight cut. with a titanium reduction gear....its not the gears that are breaking....its these little thin pieces of metal that sit between the gears...they are wleded to the gear to help move the gears around because the gears are made slightly larger than stock.....but that is what actually keeps breaking. and when they break they cut into the main shaft.

supposed to handle 900-1000hp. its the strongest suncro set you can get...inline pro just broke their dog box when they did the wheel stand...so it isnt indestructable

[Vteckidd]

wow yeah that sounds like a pretty custom gearset. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$

They should stand behind it , PPG is a pretty good company

[Evolunchbox]

This is the most homo pole ever. The killsforum has always enjoyed video's of road racing and what not when they do show up. No one would deny wanting to see Nicks Evo lapping Road A, or one of the E46's/360 I drive, or any of the Z06's. There is no question there, it's entertaining when you are board....

Why don't you make a real poll, like ""Ban O.T motherfuckers who bring up road racing in drag racing threads" poll. That actually makes sense.

lol reps!

[GGPIS3]

this thread is gay... anyone who thinks straight line racing is the only form of racing is also gay. yes i said it. do something about it! :D

[On_Her_Face]

this thread is gay... anyone who thinks straight line racing is the only form of racing is also gay. yes i said it. do something about it! :D

When was the last time your car saw the track? hahaha

[antiv6]

ive never seen anything posted on the kf that actually happens besides strait line racing. Every callout to do mountain runs ends up being a 5 page thread where nothing happens but a bunch of people bitching. Even if there was a section dedicated mountain runs and road coarse call outs it would see less action than the American car section lol. I dont see why anyone cares about the strait line racing rule

[GGPIS3]

When was the last time your car saw the track? hahaha


wrong question... the right question would be, when was the last time my car saw pavement lol

[bowdown201]

Shit would be alot more simple if you just mad a sub forum with road racing. If anyone trys bringin that shit into the straight line forum do what you say and 1 week ban etc. etc.

[On_Her_Face]

wrong question... the right question would be, when was the last time my car saw pavement lol

Hahaha, I wasn't sure if I missed something.

[Thighs]

This is the most homo pole ever. The killsforum has always enjoyed video's of road racing and what not when they do show up. No one would deny wanting to see Nicks Evo lapping Road A, or one of the E46's/360 I drive, or any of the Z06's. There is no question there, it's entertaining when you are board....

Why don't you make a real poll, like ""Ban O.T motherfuckers who bring up road racing in drag racing threads" poll. That actually makes sense.

lol... he said homo pole...

[OnURleft]

lol... he said homo pole...

you're probably the only one that caught that

Edit: that careful choice of words that is

[Frög]

Straight line racing is gay..

[Evolunchbox]

Straight line racing is gay..

Oh Jesus! I knew you would chime in...:rolleyes:

[AnthonyF]

A kill is a kill wheather its on a road course or on a drag strip.
I thought it would have been when some1 stops breathing...:thinking:

-Ant.

[On_Her_Face]

Straight line racing is gay..

Explain.

[Evolunchbox]

Explain.

He has a loud Porsche that he thinks is fast... and definitely not in a straight line.:lmfao: :boobies:

[Lankhoss]

I have no idea what the vote is about, so I'll just state my opinion.

The types of races this forum is typically about, is straight line racing. By no means does that mean people here believe straight line racing is the ONLY way to race. However, when you're on the street, that's about the only type of race to setup. 99% of the people who mod their cars, are modding them to go faster in a straight line. Even when you have a car that can handle really well, MOST of your driving on the street caters to the acceleration aspect of its performance, not the handling part of it. I have always driven cars that were pretty good at handling, since I was 19......and while I LOVE the feeling of ripping through a turn with no body roll or sliding, the fact of the matter is, I get to "play" with the throttle way more than I do the steering wheel.

I have no problem with people making callouts for mountain runs, and I certainly have no problem with people posting videos of road racing. However, these need to be separated....be it either by a RULE or a separate forum. Drag racers don't need to be calling out NSX's and talking about how they're a waste of money, and guys driving Boxters don't need to be calling out fox bodies to Road Atlanta.

Typically the guys who get all fired up are the idiots who can't appreciate BOTH as a form of racing. The guys who have cars that can't turn for shit are usually the ones calling road racing gay, and the ones with slow ass cars that handle well are ripping on the drag racers. Get over your fucking issues, and quit acting like dumbasses.

By the way, an old car site that my friends and I started years ago has pretty much turned into a road racing site, so if anyone is interested, just PM me and I'll give you the address.

[GGPIS3]

Typically the guys who get all fired up are the idiots who can't appreciate BOTH as a form of racing. The guys who have cars that can't turn for shit are usually the ones calling road racing gay, and the ones with slow ass cars that handle well are ripping on the drag racers. Get over your fucking issues, and quit acting like dumbasses..


so you're basically calling thacker a dumbass? i have to concur. :yes: but i prefer the term ignorant. ;)

[Frög]

Explain.

I am sure you already read my posts on its stock.. I don't need to explain again..

I am also sure you were expecting me to chime in here..



and definitely not in a straight line.:lmfao: :boobies:

That goes without being said.. Unless you know nothing about cars..

I don't think my car is fast in a straight line, I know it isn't..

And in general I don't think its fast! For gods sake, I have my slow 1/4 mile time posted on my profile, and I have fucking 295 HP! Its a BASE C2 911..

Jesus..

But drag racing is soooo gay.. I will say that again the day I have me a GT2..

[Evolunchbox]

I am sure you already read my posts on its stock.. I don't need to explain again..

I am also sure you were expecting me to chime in here..




That goes without being said.. Unless you know nothing about cars..

I don't think my car is fast in a straight line, I know it isn't..

And in general I don't think its fast! For gods sake, I have my slow 1/4 mile time posted on my profile, and I have fucking 295 HP! Its a BASE C2 911..

Jesus..

But drag racing is soooo gay.. I will say that again the day I have me a GT2..

Reply to your reps, which I tried to give back with a smart ass answer...but I hit the button too fast! :( LOL Would have been this: Let me de-tune the Evo and put a road course supsension on it and I will run you anywhere you want! Please don't make this a challenge! I need my focus elsewhere.

[Lankhoss]

I am sure you already read my posts on its stock.. I don't need to explain again..

I am also sure you were expecting me to chime in here..




That goes without being said.. Unless you know nothing about cars..

I don't think my car is fast in a straight line, I know it isn't..

And in general I don't think its fast! For gods sake, I have my slow 1/4 mile time posted on my profile, and I have fucking 295 HP! Its a BASE C2 911..

Jesus..

But drag racing is soooo gay.. I will say that again the day I have me a GT2..

Bench racing cars you don't own yet is totally "gay"

[DirtyMechanic]

Bench racing cars you don't own yet is totally "gay"lank? where is the bench racing. GT2 is for turns. and has a healthy straight line too

[Lankhoss]

Alright, so I guess he wasn't officially bench racing. But the "when I have my..." comments have been officially sissy gay for years now.

Add to the fact that saying other types of racing that you aren't interested in are gay is full of bukkake veggie wrap as well.

That whole post may have well been written in pink, with a rainbow boarder around it.

[DirtyMechanic]

Alright, so I guess he wasn't officially bench racing. But the "when I have my..." comments have been officially sissy gay for years now.

Add to the fact that saying other types of racing that you aren't interested in are gay is full of bukkake veggie wrap as well.

That whole post may have well been written in pink, with a rainbow boarder around it.hey im ok with pink ya know:idb: ... but the rainbow shit... thats:gay: ....

[Frög]

Reply to your reps, which I tried to give back with a smart ass answer...but I hit the button too fast! :( LOL Would have been this: Let me de-tune the Evo and put a road course supsension on it and I will run you anywhere you want! Please don't make this a challenge! I need my focus elsewhere.

That's not a smart ass comment, that's was the whole point of my comment..

I mean, one can make any car fast at drag racing, I could make mine..

So don't go saying its slow, when it will blow your doors off at road atlanta..

[Frög]

I have no idea what the vote is about, so I'll just state my opinion.

The types of races this forum is typically about, is straight line racing. By no means does that mean people here believe straight line racing is the ONLY way to race. However, when you're on the street, that's about the only type of race to setup. 99% of the people who mod their cars, are modding them to go faster in a straight line. Even when you have a car that can handle really well, MOST of your driving on the street caters to the acceleration aspect of its performance, not the handling part of it. I have always driven cars that were pretty good at handling, since I was 19......and while I LOVE the feeling of ripping through a turn with no body roll or sliding, the fact of the matter is, I get to "play" with the throttle way more than I do the steering wheel.

I have no problem with people making callouts for mountain runs, and I certainly have no problem with people posting videos of road racing. However, these need to be separated....be it either by a RULE or a separate forum. Drag racers don't need to be calling out NSX's and talking about how they're a waste of money, and guys driving Boxters don't need to be calling out fox bodies to Road Atlanta.

Exactly, isn't it funny that people talk shit about my car being "slow", and try to drag race me? Every time I get called out by a redneck to race drag, and then get told that my car is slow.. :rolleyes:


Bench racing cars you don't own yet is totally "gay"

And what I said, was not gay.. I guess you missed the point.. You said:


Typically the guys who get all fired up are the idiots who can't appreciate BOTH as a form of racing. The guys who have cars that can't turn for shit are usually the ones calling road racing gay, and the ones with slow ass cars that handle well are ripping on the drag racers. Get over your fucking issues, and quit acting like dumbasses.

And I responded in saying that this has nothing to do with what car I drive, but the mere fact that drag racing is gay, regardless of anything else.. If I had a car that was both fast in a straight line and around turns, I would still hate on drag racing.. I picked the GT2 because I am a Porsche fan boy and that that car excels in both aspects.. It was a randomly (somewhat) selected example.. I could of said a Z06 (which I could easily own), regardless that isn't the point.. So that being said, your comment is void..


But drag racing is soooo gay.. I will say that again the day I have me a GT2..

Now what you said on the other hand, THAT was gay:


Alright, so I guess he wasn't officially bench racing. But the "when I have my..." comments have been officially sissy gay for years now.

Add to the fact that saying other types of racing that you aren't interested in are gay is full of bukkake veggie wrap as well.

That whole post may have well been written in pink, with a rainbow boarder around it.

CLIFF NOTES FOR YOU:

1. You said people that say drag racing is gay say it BECAUSE those people have cars that are slow in straight line

2. I responded and proved that comment wrong by saying that if I had a car that was fast in both, I would still say drag racing is gay.

:goodjob:

[Evolunchbox]

CLIFF NOTES FOR YOU:

1. You said people that say drag racing is gay say it BECAUSE those people have cars that are slow in straight line

2. I responded and proved that comment wrong by saying that if I had a car that was fast in both, I would still say drag racing is gay.

:goodjob:

No... all of your reply's are :gay:

You show absolutely no depth in racing and are fixated on belittling something you have NO idea about. Well done, you just earned yourself the DB of the year award. :goodjob:

[Frög]

No... all of your reply's are :gay:

You show absolutely no depth in racing and are fixated on belittling something you have NO idea about. Well done, you just earned yourself the DB of the year award. :goodjob:

Drag racing is the lowest breed of racing.. I do have an idea about what I am talking about, I gave it a try, went to multiple drag events, raced multiple cars (not all fast)..

I mean, it really takes no skill.. How hard is it to perfectly launch a car and perfectly shift? Its not.. I do it, all the time.. And people sit around and watch this?

DB of the year, what an honor! Ill gladly take that!! Thank you!

[On_Her_Face]

Drag racing is the lowest breed of racing.. I do have an idea about what I am talking about, I gave it a try, went to multiple drag events, raced multiple cars (not all fast)..

I mean, it really takes no skill.. How hard is it to perfectly launch a car and perfectly shift? Its not.. I do it, all the time.. And people sit around and watch this?

DB of the year, what an honor! Ill gladly take that!! Thank you!

I challenge you to run a drag time as fast as the professionals did during the road test with your car. Until then, stop talking about what you can and can't do.

I think road racing is gay because I can just get a GTR and it will drive the course for me. :lmfao:

[Frög]

I challenge you to run a drag time as fast as the professionals did during the road test with your car. Until then, stop talking about what you can and can't do.

I think road racing is gay because I can just get a GTR and it will drive the course for me. :lmfao:

I did.. Genuis..

[On_Her_Face]

I did.. Genuis..

Post the timeslip then.

[Frög]

Post the timeslip then.

I have it in my glove box.. I went with sicstang03, Christian, anthony, and kayfunk..

I ran with over 150lbs of extra shit in my car (silver dollar has a scale to weight the car) and was on Continental sport contact 2 that were BALD.. Ask them..

They know how fast I ran, and I think I still have the time slip in my glove box..

So yeah.......... You were saying?

[Frög]

Might I also add that I ran the same times as professionals, without being familiar with my car yet..

This was 2 weeks after buying it..

[On_Her_Face]

I have it in my glove box.. I went with sicstang03, Christian, anthony, and kayfunk..

I ran with over 150lbs of extra shit in my car (silver dollar has a scale to weight the car) and was on Continental sport contact 2 that were BALD.. Ask them..

They know how fast I ran, and I think I still have the time slip in my glove box..

So yeah.......... You were saying?

Hmm, I'm not calling you a liar but proof would be nice. I posted a time .6 under what some professionals did.

All I'm saying is because you don't like drag racing does not mean it is the lowest breed. If you have actual proof of it being the lowest breed, please enlighten us. It is definitely not a hard sport but try driving something in the 8s range, I'm sure you or I would do great.

[Frög]

Hmm, I'm not calling you a liar but proof would be nice. I posted a time .6 under what some professionals did.

All I'm saying is because you don't like drag racing does not mean it is the lowest breed. If you have actual proof of it being the lowest breed, please enlighten us. It is definitely not a hard sport but try driving something in the 8s range, I'm sure you or I would do great.

ill look through my glovebox.. But I know you know justin (sickstang), I think kayfunk might even have the video..

No proof, I think drag racing is gay.. I surely upset a lot of people saying this, but when I say the same with the guys that road race at Road Atlanta, they all seem to agree..

Being good at racing around Road Atlanta deff requires more skill than these "drag racers"..

[On_Her_Face]

ill look through my glovebox.. But I know you know justin (sickstang), I think kayfunk might even have the video..

No proof, I think drag racing is gay.. I surely upset a lot of people saying this, but when I say the same with the guys that road race at Road Atlanta, they all seem to agree..

Being good at racing around Road Atlanta deff requires more skill than these "drag racers"..

I can agree to that due to more variables. Also if you ask most people who race at the drag strip a lot will agree that road racing is "gay".

[Frög]

I can agree to that due to more variables. Also if you ask most people who race at the drag strip a lot will agree that road racing is "gay".

Not surprising!

Getting the apex right, heal toe, rev matching, downshifting, controlling over/understeer, braking! I mean there is soo much to racing beyond the launch and the shifting.. Anyone good will launch perfectly and shift perfectly as well..

[ILOVEKIDDRACING]

Not surprising!

Getting the apex right, heal toe, rev matching, downshifting, controlling over/understeer, braking! I mean there is soo much to racing beyond the launch and the shifting.. Anyone good will launch perfectly and shift perfectly as well..

I can't believe you are serious.

Carry on people, I think he's just fucking with us. No one is this dumb.

[tdurr]

I can't believe you are serious.

Carry on people, I think he's just fucking with us. No one is this dumb.

wait wut?

he has a legit point.
finding the apex right, heal toe, rev matching, downshifting, turning, controlling over/understeer, braking > launching hard, powershifting, and.. oh braking at the end of the strip.
:ninja:

[_Christian_]

Drag racing has such a limited skill set compared to road racing. That is a fact. If you're trying to argue for drag racing you might be better off sticking to subjective points. Drag racing TO ME is not as fun for all the above stated reasons, plus you only get to "race" for a few seconds at a time. Endurance racing is where it's at.

[slow_hatch]

What is the first thing that road racers do in a race?? Drag race to turn 1

[Lankhoss]

That's not a smart ass comment, that's was the whole point of my comment..

I mean, one can make any car fast at drag racing, I could make mine..

So don't go saying its slow, when it will blow your doors off at road atlanta..

Wow dude, just WOW. Your ignorance is astonishing. Anyone can make a car fast around a road course, too. You know how? Put a set of tires on any moderate performance vehicle and BAM you've just taken 4 seconds off your RA lap time.

There are stripped down Miatas with less than 10k into them tearing up RA just like there are 9 second POS Fox Bodies at Commerce. Quit with your snobby fucking attitude just because you have a fancy car and prefer a form of racing that has more variables in it.

[Lankhoss]

Frog posted this stupid shit for pages and pages on IS.

Unfortunately, he's too dumb to realize that this isn't a drag racing vs. road racing debate.

Thing is, it doesn't matter what form of racing you PREFER....if your mind isn't big enough to understand and respect other people for having a different taste in things, then you don't deserve to procreate.

And seriously dude - "....when I have a GT2" "A Z06 (which I could easily own)" The more you type, the only thing you prove is how much of a stupid douchebag you are.

Please stop heel/toe'ing and rev matching, and maybe pick up a book or go back to school or something and work on being a more intelligent and productive member of society before getting back out to the road courses.

[Frög]

Frog posted this stupid shit for pages and pages on IS.

Unfortunately, he's too dumb to realize that this isn't a drag racing vs. road racing debate.

Thing is, it doesn't matter what form of racing you PREFER....if your mind isn't big enough to understand and respect other people for having a different taste in things, then you don't deserve to procreate.

And seriously dude - "....when I have a GT2" "A Z06 (which I could easily own)" The more you type, the only thing you prove is how much of a stupid douchebag you are.

Please stop heel/toe'ing and rev matching, and maybe pick up a book or go back to school or something and work on being a more intelligent and productive member of society before getting back out to the road courses.

Ok, ok.. Ill admit, drag racing is sooo cool! I can't get enough of the rush from seeing a car take 12 seconds to RACE down a 1/4 mile stretch..

I wish I could launch my car and shift, you elitists are so smart, open minded, and most off all; such good racers! And I am sorry for such preposterous accusations, ignorance does not reign here, not in GA..

I wish I could have such exemplar educations as you all, travel as much as you do, and experienced as many things as you have.. I also wish I could run the drag strip and get on my first couple tries: professional times.. That is SO hard.. :rolleyes:

Now, I will try to learn how to read, and maybe one day, learn how to put my car in 1st gear and be able to make it move..

I bow to you all, and hope to one day become one of you..

Anyway, preach all that noise to this guy:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/ll_shprelude_ll/THAKC.jpg

I joined IS understanding and respecting other peoples preferences.. Until my preference (road racing), which is a superior form of racing, got bashed on..

You guys have no better comebacks than calling me stupid?


What is the first thing that road racers do in a race?? Drag race to turn 1

Exactly my point.. By definition, anyone who is a good road racer is good at launching and shifting.. Drag racing requires little skill..

Now back to the OP.. Im off to sleep before finals.. :goodjob:

[Lankhoss]

Sorry Frog, don't really know what else to call you.

You're just...a stupid human being. Your brain just doesn't work very well.

Just like right now....you think that I'm calling you stupid because you road race. You think that what type of racing you like determines your educational level, apparently.

The thing is, no matter what kind of car you drive, what kind of racing you do, how good you are at it, how much money you make, or whatever else.....you're still too stupid to even be able to have a conversation. And obviously your mind is way too small to appreciate more than 1 thing at a time.

[Frög]

Sorry Frog, don't really know what else to call you.

You're just...a stupid human being. Your brain just doesn't work very well.

Just like right now....you think that I'm calling you stupid because you road race. You think that what type of racing you like determines your educational level, apparently.

The thing is, no matter what kind of car you drive, what kind of racing you do, how good you are at it, how much money you make, or whatever else.....you're still too stupid to even be able to have a conversation. And obviously your mind is way too small to appreciate more than 1 thing at a time.

Nowhere do I think you are calling me stupid because I road race.. And nowhere do I think what type of racing determines my education level.. If that is what you deciphered from my post, I don't think your brain is working very well, or might just be too small..

But again, preach all that noise to this guy:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/ll_shprelude_ll/THAKC.jpg

I joined IS understanding and respecting other peoples preferences.. Until my preference (road racing), which is a superior form of racing, got bashed on..

You guys have no better comebacks than calling me stupid? I can't believe grown man have to resort to this..

[Frög]

And obviously your mind is way too small to appreciate more than 1 thing at a time.

LOL I don't like drag racing, that means I only appreciate one thing? HAHAHAH girls, food, cars, wine, travel, flying etc.. etc.. What a retarded statement..

Unlike your assumption, I am going to attempt to make my own:


you're still too stupid to even be able to have a conversation.

I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

[The Creeper]

If you could easily own a z06, then why aren't you driving a c6z right now. Anyone in their right mind would take a c6z over the porsche you currently drive, no offense to the 911, they are fun cars too.

[SPOOLIN]

drag racing requires very little skill. Wow, so shallow.

I would pay to see you take an 800whp civic and put it into the mid 9's in the 1/4 mile, i think i would also buy pop corn and a drink while you TRY.

[Evolunchbox]

I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

This is the MOST conceded statement that anyone has made on this site to date, of my knowledge... You shit must really not stick, Frog!? These types of statements really show your true colors of arrogance and closed mindedness. It's a shame that you had the opportunities in life to be a "gold member" by the age of 12, but yet you still act like someone that has lived under a rock his entire life. Hats of to your parents :screwy:



We all love different types of racing. End point. To say that one is better than the other is like a horse wearing blinders...Surely they taught you how to accept other views in your many years abroad... but I doubt you were listening. :yes:

[btstone]

i think drag requires a diff type of skill. i mean the entire point of drag racing is to squeeze every once of power out your car, then take that power and maintain it down a 1320ft strip. it may not be 3-footing the clutch and brake, and hitting the apex just right, but it does take lots of practice and time and tuning.
think of it as football. you give all you got for only a few seconds then take a break. when the car gets out of control you have to regain it. kind of like when the the play breaks down
autox is more like basketball. constant motion the entire time. lots of finess(spelling) and control are involved.

[Frög]

This is the MOST conceded statement that anyone has made on this site to date, of my knowledge... You shit must really not stick, Frog!? These types of statements really show your true colors of arrogance and closed mindedness. It's a shame that you had the opportunities in life to be a "gold member" by the age of 12, but yet you still act like someone that has lived under a rock his entire life. Hats of to your parents :screwy:



We all love different types of racing. End point. To say that one is better than the other is like a horse wearing blinders...Surely they taught you how to accept other views in your many years abroad... but I doubt you were listening. :yes:

I think the proper saying is: " your shit must really not stink"


Like said in the referred post:

Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

Im not the one calling people stupid..

This is a waste of time and energy..

[Evolunchbox]

I think the proper saying is: " your shit must really not stink"

That's the best you've got.... FAIL:cheers:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r283/evolunchbox/baby-fail.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r283/evolunchbox/1471507331_931a90ca9e.jpg

FAIL, FAIL, your just FULL OF FAIL.... And I'm out:boobies: :bump:

[Frög]

That's the best you've got.... FAIL:cheers:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r283/evolunchbox/baby-fail.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r283/evolunchbox/1471507331_931a90ca9e.jpg

FAIL, FAIL, your just FULL OF FAIL.... And I'm out:boobies: :bump:

Must of not read the whole post..

Fuck this, I'm out..

NO ONE CAN ARGUE THIS:

Drag racing requires a lot less skill that road racing..

[SPOOLIN]

no you fuck tard, all different version of racing can be argued upon what difficulties are involved. I'm narrow minded when it comes to LIKING other versions of motorsports like drifting or road racing but holy shit your are just fucking blind.

[Frög]

EvolunchBox-Hope I am living up to the Douche Bag Nomination

LankHoss- You call me stupid because (a) I think drag racing is gay and (b) because it requires less skill?

Well it can't be (a) because that goes against what you preach.. I respect and understand (somewhat) why some men are gay.. Doesn't mean I appreciate them.. I still think they are gay..

And (b) is true, it requires less skill..


no you fuck tard, all different version of racing can be argued upon what difficulties are involved. I'm narrow minded when it comes to LIKING other versions of motorsports like drifting or road racing but holy shit your are just fucking blind.

Still requires less skill.. I don't have time to write anything right now, I have a final in 30 minutes.. But when I get to work tonight, I will go in depth why it is that way..

[SPOOLIN]

well i can sit here and be a dumbass like you and talk about how road racing is gay and less skillful because you are pretty much in a constant state of consistent motion with accels and decels and taking turns through the same outside-inside-outside method whether it be up and down waiting for a dumbass to slipup so you can pass them only because they are the moron.

but i wont..because both take a comparable and considerable amount of skill.

I hope someone of your age isn't a representation of all the up and coming 20 somethings.

[The Creeper]

well i can sit here and be a dumbass like you and talk about how road racing is gay and less skillful because you are pretty much in a constant state of consistent motion with accels and decels and taking turns through the same outside-inside-outside method whether it be up and down waiting for a dumbass to slipup so you can pass them only because they are the moron.

but i wont..because both take a comparable and considerable amount of skill.

I hope someone of your age isn't a representation of all the up and coming 20 somethings.

Most people my age (I am 21) are complete fucktards, it's a sick sad world out there.

Also, he dodged my comment about how he said he could "easily" own a z06. He said this to Lank, who owns a C6Z. I would love to know how someone my age can easily own a c6z insurance and all. And if you can afford all that, why are you driving a old 911 and not a turbo 911?:goodjob:

[SPOOLIN]

probably because hes just a damn nut swinger for other guys and doesnt do anything for himself

[Lankhoss]

LOL I don't like drag racing, that means I only appreciate one thing? HAHAHAH girls, food, cars, wine, travel, flying etc.. etc.. What a retarded statement..

Unlike your assumption, I am going to attempt to make my own:



I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

Holy crap, you've got all of that stuff under you're belt and you're STILL this fucking stupid?

Good God. Did you suffer a head injury or something?

Edit: Just saw your second post. And I don't think you're stupid because you like road racing better, I think you're stupid because even when I type it out for you as plain and simply as I can, you still don't know WHY I think you're fucking stupid. You also can't see that everyone else thinks you're a fucking retard, and your only response is "but..but...road racing takes more skill!" Like Evo said, your parents probably tried to teach you other things in life but you just didn't listen.

And no, don't come back later and try to explain your response....not only will it make people dumber if they happen to read it, but not a single person gives a shit.

Just stop posting, and get a vasectomy.

[The Creeper]

Holy crap, you've got all of that stuff under you're belt and you're STILL this fucking stupid?

Good God. Did you suffer a head injury or something?

Edit: Just saw your second post. And I don't think you're stupid because you like road racing better, I think you're stupid because even when I type it out for you as plain and simply as I can, you still don't know WHY I think you're fucking stupid. You also can't see that everyone else thinks you're a fucking retard, and your only response is "but..but...road racing takes more skill!" Like Evo said, your parents probably tried to teach you other things in life but you just didn't listen.

And no, don't come back later and try to explain your response....not only will it make people dumber if they happen to read it, but not a single person gives a shit.

Just stop posting, and get a vasectomy.

Owned. End thread/:goodjob:

[OnURleft]

All in all I just think it's funny how people are so avidly against road racing when they have never even been on a track, and no a parade lap or a PDX does not count and in the BMW C.C.A, P.C.A, N.A.S.A, Chin, A.C.N.A world, neither does little Talladega

[Lankhoss]

All in all I just think it's funny how people are so avidly against road racing when they have never even been on a track, and no a parade lap or a PDX does not count and in the BMW C.C.A, P.C.A, N.A.S.A, Chin, A.C.N.A world, neither does little Talladega

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.

[SPOOLIN]

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.


well you could, but you have a 99.9% chance that someone WILL DIE.

[Frög]

Most people my age (I am 21) are complete fucktards, it's a sick sad world out there.

Also, he dodged my comment about how he said he could "easily" own a z06. He said this to Lank, who owns a C6Z. I would love to know how someone my age can easily own a c6z insurance and all. And if you can afford all that, why are you driving a old 911 and not a turbo 911?:goodjob:

Because I DD my 911! I put close to 20k miles a year on it! Don't worry, I will have a 911 turbo :goodjob:

I said a Z06, referring to the c5.. Who said anything about c6z? I ignored your post because you are retarded..

[Frög]

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.

You must of not read the IS thread.. Fuck you are fucking stupid! You want me to link you dip shit?

BRB

[Frög]

LankHoss, I don't think you remember, but your buddy thacker WAS talking shit about road racing and also said, and I quote: "Porsche = Fail"

Because his shit mullet mobile was faster in a straight line!

BUAHAHAHAH this is hilarious!

[Frög]

http://**************/forums/showthread.php?t=343

Everyone, look through that thread..

Edit: Ah fuck.. Well you know what to type in the censored part

[Frög]

I am sorry if I offended or hurt anyone's feelings.. But all this is in response to that thread on IS where thacker ran his mouth about how shitty my car is and how much better his GTO was because it was faster in a straight line, when my car is made for everything but straight line.. Who sin't respecting the other's form of racing, huh lank?

Lets compare the actual SPORT, motorsport, at the professional level.. If there is a proven difference of skill between these, the same applies to the level of skill at the amateur level..

Drag racing isn't my cup of tea because I feel that drag racing requires too little skill.. Lets compare racing, a little racing 101 for some of you (some of you already mentioned the difference in skill, we are on the same page).. Nascar is like drag racing to a degree.. Both take a VERY limited skill-set and refining it to a VERY high degree.. In drag racing, it is ALL and only about launching the car and being able to shift quickly.. In Nascar, it is all about knowing when it's time to draft someone (knowing that once you pull up you draft, and once you pass they can draft you).. There really isn't much skill involved in knowing about traction and how hard you can push in turns, because they are all one big pack and are rolling around the track together.. You just stick with the pack..

It is laughable to compare the skill level of Nascar (or drag racing, for that matter) with rally, F1 driving, etc.. Lets take F1 driving, F1 is about being able to do lots of different things and do them well, not taking one or two things and taking them to a very high degree of skill.. If you want to be a good F1 driver, you have to be on the verge of crash because that is the fastest.. You have to be a excellent braker, good at starting, good at high speed turns, good at passing, good at protecting your position, good at tire management, good at lots and lots of other things.. Thacker is good at one thing, launching and shifting through.. I am a relatively accomplished drag racer (ran same as the factory time executed by pro driver).. I am not saying in anyway that average joe can Drag race ( because average joe cannot parralel park into a parking spot), but I have absolutely no doubt that if you took a group of people, trained them , put them in the needed equipment, that over some amount of time you could develop a winning Nascar driver, a winning Drag racer, BUT you could NEVER develop a winning F1 driver unless that person already had "that extra something" that is required to be great..

Look at the father/son teams who do very well in both Nascar and Drag racing.. We're supposed to believe the kids just have "it" the way the dads do? Statistically impossible........ It's because it is possible to breach the highest ranks of Nascar and Drag racing without some high level of innate skill, but it is not possible to do so in F1.. That's just how it is..

Its really pitiful that some had to resort to shit arguments..

Drag racing is gay.. Who can argue that it isn't the lowest breed of automobile racing? That is why it isn't really popular anywhere else in the world.. Racing at a drag strip can't even compare to taking your car to the limits around Road Atlanta..

The average American cannot parallel park.. When the average European driver (including women) have to do it on a daily basis.. No wonder Drag Racing is so popular here and no wonder most F1 drivers are European..

[Frög]

Unfortunately, he's too dumb to realize that this isn't a drag racing vs. road racing debate.

If this is what you are referring to, NONE of your points are valid.. Because it has become a debate.. Read other peoples posts..

Now, there are no other reasons to call me stupid.. Go ahead, if there is any other reason, SPELL IT OUT..


Owned. End thread/:goodjob:

LOL 404 ownage not found.. Him calling me stupid and telling me to get a vasectomy.. I remember owning kids in middle school like that..

[SPOOLIN]

lol drag is racing pretty big in other parts of the world, look at the middle east where they have very nice drag racing facilities built within world class road race facilities. Hell even in Europe they have a very large drag racing group...hell even Australia, but anyways what the other parts of the world do actually don't matter at all.

Drag racing is not all about shifting. Drag racing involves almost all of the same shit except "maintaining position" and "passing"

You have to set the car up suspension wise to be able to hook up that power that you just "shift good through" You have to tweak the alignments of the tires to get them strait at a certain point of the run to make maximum traction which takes days of work to get right, you have to be able to adjust the engine power per DAY to make up for weather and track conditions to be able to be consistent.

NASCAR is retarded, they don't even race in the rain which would totally be possible and safe with the right tires...that is a terrible group of rednex. If you look at 90% of drag racers that are serious about what they do, they are not redneck bastard Americans, they are hard working people who have payed their dues to be where they are. Drag Racing is obviously not safe on a wet surface...no argument is allowed there.

I've seen people buy pro stock drag racing chassis that ran 6.60's in the 1/4 and they could NEVER get them that fast in a years time because its DIFFICULT and not EASY. There so much involved in chassis setup and alignments, clutch settings and timing everything perfect.

Like i said before, I will PAY to see you take my car and run it as fast as i have in one days time. I would love to see you easily make it do it, ill put all of the suspension back to zero and the tune to zero and LOL at you because you are such a dumb ass when it comes to motor sports and the versions that other people love besides you.

You need to go ass fuck some guys at Road Atlanta or something, go make out with some dudes from Europe and follow them back there so you can make love to the cars at Nurburgring in the exhaust.

You sir, Are A LOAD YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE SWALLOWED.

[On_Her_Face]

I disagree with NASCAR racing in the rain. If you can picture a car doing around the track at full speed and if a person could touch the car with their hand on the inside quarter panel and give it a slight push the car would spin out. With that being said I still don't think a rain tire for this application would work.

[JITB]

lol whats the point in these rules.. No one races!!

[On_Her_Face]

lol whats the point in these rules.. No one races!!

You don't contribute, so why respond? Just curious.

[Incontt]

juan pablo montoya said nascar is harder than f1. he has done both. drag racing is one of the easiest forms of racing to do. sure there is plenty to setup if you dont have a crew doing it for you but imagine nascar or f1 without a crew and all the shit they have to adjust. the driving part of circle track racing is much harder than drag racing.....once you do it you will respect the small margin of error. ill try to find the article where juan pablo compares the two of f1 vs nascar.

[On_Her_Face]

I LOVE YOUR T/A. Carry on.

[Incontt]

thanks!! i love the vette....just couldnt afford one AND the mods i want.....but i still wish i had a vette

[SPOOLIN]

i respect all forms of racing unlike the douche in this thread. i however dont care for watching or participating. i do believe that they could race in the rain if they had to of course it wouldnt be at 180 plus. noone can deny that nascar is full of redneck mentality.

[Incontt]

what pray tell is redneck mentality? i look at the top 20 drivers in nascar and dont see the rednecks......other than Jr

[SPOOLIN]

thats just how i feel, and this is beside the point that is trying to be made, All forms of racing require SIGNIFICANT skill to perform properly. none is superior to others in terms of difficulty at all points of the versions of the sport. It doesn't matter the number of teams, given that all types of sports require lots of testing...TO GET IT ALL RIGHT AND PERFECT for race day no matter the number of people participating in the team effort. All of this testing takes skill to learn what works and what does not for any type.

Frog basically said its impossible to learn over a period of say 18 years what your father did before you to be as good as he was in a nut shell. Its called a brain and it learns what is repeatedly observes. So if you grow up with a father that races formula 1 or Indy car, then you are probably going to be able to be just as good if you follow that direction in life because you LEARN. Look at the Andretti family.

[On_Her_Face]

thats just how i feel, and this is beside the point that is trying to be made, All forms of racing require SIGNIFICANT skill to perform properly. none is superior to others in terms of difficulty at all points of the versions of the sport. It doesn't matter the number of teams, given that all types of sports require lots of testing...TO GET IT ALL RIGHT AND PERFECT for race day no matter the number of people participating in the team effort. All of this testing takes skill to learn what works and what does not for any type.

Frog basically said its impossible to learn over a period of say 18 years what your father did before you to be as good as he was in a nut shell. Its called a brain and it learns what is repeatedly observes. So if you grow up with a father that races formula 1 or Indy car, then you are probably going to be able to be just as good if you follow that direction in life because you LEARN. Look at the Andretti family.

The way it should be looked at is by other sports. Look at Micheal Jorden, amazing basketball player but shitty baseball player. Each sport is not for every driver, does not mean one is tougher than the other.

[Lankhoss]

http://**************/forums/showthread.php?t=343

Everyone, look through that thread..

Edit: Ah fuck.. Well you know what to type in the censored part

I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.

[DirtyMechanic]

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/Wrong_internet.jpg

[JITB]

You don't contribute, so why respond? Just curious.


i contributed when it counted, and when people actually ran. instead of discussing shit for 3 weeks..and never racing. Its not rocket science, most of the races arent for money... just go and run and have fun and go home. This forums complicates shit..and makes it LAME!

and do you even race?

[Incontt]

"That is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap" ........ what an authority



I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.

[Lankhoss]

Thacker isn't the authority on Porsche, I never made that claim.

You know as well as I do that car forums are FILLED with people trashing certain car companies...everyone has their opinion, that's why we all drive DIFFERENT cars.

I was just saying that......in the link that was posted, Thacker wasn't talking about racing at all, just ragging on his CAR.

[Incontt]

ok.....itscock.net....yeehaw

[DirtyMechanic]

really like really really

[_Christian_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqDl1s99QOU

[DirtyMechanic]

i see your audi and raise you a Suzuki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VafUiWtjH-Q&feature=related

[On_Her_Face]

i contributed when it counted, and when people actually ran. instead of discussing shit for 3 weeks..and never racing. Its not rocket science, most of the races arent for money... just go and run and have fun and go home. This forums complicates shit..and makes it LAME!

and do you even race?

Why yes, yes I do thank you. I have never seen you contribute to this forum since I have been here.

[On_Her_Face]

I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.

The 2010 Camaro went faster around Nurburgring than a Caymen S :lmfao:

Actually that is false, I just double checked. Guess the first time I saw the times it was from a unreliable sorce. :(

Camaro 8:20
Caymen S 8:11

[The Creeper]

Because I DD my 911! I put close to 20k miles a year on it! Don't worry, I will have a 911 turbo :goodjob:

I said a Z06, referring to the c5.. Who said anything about c6z? I ignored your post because you are retarded..

Well when you are arguing with someone with a C6Z, and talk about how you could easily own a z06, one might think you meant the c6z.

So because you daily drive a 911, that of course = easily afford a z06. :blah:

That explains it all.

What makes me retarded with my question?

[OnURleft]

I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.


Let me start by saying I am not being biased and I am trying to make a clear point with these examples based on my own experience....

The C5 vette is probably the best bang for the buck track car, excluding a Miata or an E36/E30, the problem is you will have a hard time learning how to drive in them, same with a 911 but for completely different reasons. I have a car with <300whp and I have done in between 4000-5000 flat out track miles and I have NEVER been passed by a student in any Vette with any mod while driving at speed, this includes modified C6Z's. I actually sent a C5Z into the wall on turn 12 at Road A when he tried to stay with me after not letting me come around for 3 lapa..Het tried to match my turn in speed and went sideways and straight into the wall(mind you my car has 235's, not 345 Hoosiers) and you'd of been suprised no one was hurt, it was terrible. My point is the general consenscious is they typically have lots of mods and they get tossed by cars with 1/3rd as much. The first thing I heard from his friend was "yeah I was trying to stay with that supercharged M3." My car is 251whp N/A
Now the reason....
My point is, for a performance car a Vette is nice and an incredible value but i'd say 9/10 Vette drivers driving with people with the same experience as them with less than 15 track weekends go out there with 345 Hoosiers, bolt on's and what not and get their shit tossed by little 160hp Miata's, shit ugly old BMW's, Caymans with 295hp and cars of that sort. The reason being, the chassis just does not communicate like other sports cars, such as a 911. Some will learn how to adapt to it and other drivers will always be slow for what they have...Keep in mind i'm speaking in terms of a relatively inexperienced track driver, not someone like an instructor/pro who has pent extensive time in the car learning their "different" behavior.. Anyhow in somewhat straightforward terms that Vette owners won't like, you are apart of a 911, M3, NSX, properly built Miata, but a Vette is still a brute and not exactly the best car for a driver/car relationship on a track, especially for a newb. They are a challenging car to start off in, which is why if and when you go to track day you will see Vette's getting torn up by little cars with not near the tire or power, but you'll also see experienced drivers (instructors and club racers) tearing it up as they are drivers who can adapt to their shortcomings, or what they lack that inexperienced racers have a hard time with (chassis communication)....


Now to be biased...this is my perspective
A ZR1 has 638hp, monster tires, monster brakes (good lord are they huge), and ran 7:22.6 on a track with 170+ turns with the best Corvette driver in the world, 7:26 with a professional driver
A 998 GT3 has the same weight, 415hp, 285's (IIRC), and much smaller brakes. It was driven sub 7:40 with the Porsche test driver claiming there was "room left", not the best Carrera driver in the world and in an N/A car. Mind you this was a 6 speed, not a PDK, which Porsche said would cut 4-10 seconds.
In my opinion the Corvette is still offering what it always has, brute force, a great price and more but while doing LESS, but the price makes up for it in some respects and they are great cars...


The 2010 Camaro went faster around Nurburgring than a Caymen S :lmfao:Br

Actually that is false, I just double checked. Guess the first time I saw the times it was from a unreliable source. :(

Camaro 8:20
Caymen S 8:11

This is what I love, stereotypical GM owners talking about how fast they can go. LOL Billy i'm not trying to rag you I have just been hearing this talking since I was 15. My Vette, your Carrera or whatever...

Stop looking at it from a cockswinging perspective that you read from a magazine and just look at what's obvious, a Camaro has Brembo's, 285's (IIRC) all the way around, 436HP, LSD and still runs 9 seconds slower then a car with less than 300hp and an open diff, and less hp per lb

Two words, chassis development. You are getting what you pay for, less that does more..errr at a cost though.

[redrumracer]

racing is racing, no matter if it involves turns or going straight seeing how fast you can shift gears.

[On_Her_Face]

Let me start by saying I am not being biased and I am trying to make a clear point with these examples based on my own experience....

The C5 vette is probably the best bang for the buck track car, excluding a Miata or an E36/E30, the problem is you will have a hard time learning how to drive in them, same with a 911 but for completely different reasons. I have a car with <300whp and I have done in between 4000-5000 flat out track miles and I have NEVER been passed by a student in any Vette with any mod while driving at speed, this includes modified C6Z's. I actually sent a C5Z into the wall on turn 12 at Road A when he tried to stay with me after not letting me come around for 3 lapa..Het tried to match my turn in speed and went sideways and straight into the wall(mind you my car has 235's, not 345 Hoosiers) and you'd of been suprised no one was hurt, it was terrible. My point is the general consenscious is they typically have lots of mods and they get tossed by cars with 1/3rd as much. The first thing I heard from his friend was "yeah I was trying to stay with that supercharged M3." My car is 251whp N/A
Now the reason....
My point is, for a performance car a Vette is nice and an incredible value but i'd say 9/10 Vette drivers driving with people with the same experience as them with less than 15 track weekends go out there with 345 Hoosiers, bolt on's and what not and get their shit tossed by little 160hp Miata's, shit ugly old BMW's, Caymans with 295hp and cars of that sort. The reason being, the chassis just does not communicate like other sports cars, such as a 911. Some will learn how to adapt to it and other drivers will always be slow for what they have...Keep in mind i'm speaking in terms of a relatively inexperienced track driver, not someone like an instructor/pro who has pent extensive time in the car learning their "different" behavior.. Anyhow in somewhat straightforward terms that Vette owners won't like, you are apart of a 911, M3, NSX, properly built Miata, but a Vette is still a brute and not exactly the best car for a driver/car relationship on a track, especially for a newb. They are a challenging car to start off in, which is why if and when you go to track day you will see Vette's getting torn up by little cars with not near the tire or power, but you'll also see experienced drivers (instructors and club racers) tearing it up as they are drivers who can adapt to their shortcomings, or what they lack that inexperienced racers have a hard time with (chassis communication)....


Now to be biased...this is my perspective
A ZR1 has 638hp, monster tires, monster brakes (good lord are they huge), and ran 7:22.6 on a track with 170+ turns with the best Corvette driver in the world, 7:26 with a professional driver
A 998 GT3 has the same weight, 415hp, 285's (IIRC), and much smaller brakes. It was driven sub 7:40 with the Porsche test driver claiming there was "room left", not the best Carrera driver in the world and in an N/A car. Mind you this was a 6 speed, not a PDK, which Porsche said would cut 4-10 seconds.
In my opinion the Corvette is still offering what it always has, brute force, a great price and more but while doing LESS, but the price makes up for it in some respects and they are great cars...



This is what I love, stereotypical GM owners talking about how fast they can go. LOL Billy i'm not trying to rag you I have just been hearing this talking since I was 15. My Vette, your Carrera or whatever...

Stop looking at it from a cockswinging perspective that you read from a magazine and just look at what's obvious, a Camaro has Brembo's, 285's (IIRC) all the way around, 436HP, LSD and still runs 9 seconds slower then a car with less than 300hp and an open diff, and less hp per lb

Two words, chassis development. You are getting what you pay for, less that does more..errr at a cost though.

I understand all of this, however if I were comparing the Caymen S to a Corvette, the Corvette is faster around a track. I could careless about less hp per lb, per liter, or any comparison like this. Only thing that really matters in the end is what gets the job done better. That is all I am pointing out. Yes the Caymen is faster than a Camaro but at what price? Either way this whole thread is stupid nor do I care. lol.

[Lankhoss]

Good post, OnURLeft. I wasn't trying to make a GM vs. Porsche post. In fact, I don't share the same opinion of Porsche as Thacker does. If I were to road race, and money wasn't an option, I'd take a Porsche over a Vette. With money being a factor, I'd take a Vette over a Porsche.

I agree with you on the chassis comments, my Z scares the shit out of me because I have no idea when it's going to break loose. Best thing I ever did was take it around a road course a couple times, and I got way more comfortable in it. I know I am still nowhere near the limits with it, but I'm not quite as scared in corners as I used to be.

Bottom line is, Corvettes have been considered the best bang-for-buck sports cars in the world for several years, and there's a reason for that. GM usually puts out great "performance per dollar" cars all around. Back when the big rivalry between WS6, SS, and Cobra was out, the SS took 1st place pretty much everytime. Even right now, the new Camaro SS is blowing the Mustang and Challenger away in performance tests, and I believe it's one of the cheapest cars (don't quote me on that, I've gotten mixed information). I think this is why you get so many GM nutswingers. To be honest with you, I have always liked GM styling better than comparable cars as well, so they're pretty much the perfect car manufacturers for someone like me. But when it comes to car purchasing, it is always opinion....and opinions are never wrong. I could have spent half the money I did and had a car go as fast in a straight line as my car does now, and still been a pretty nice all 'round vehicle....but I chose the Z06 BECAUSE I LIKE THE CAR. Same goes for others, Porsches are awesome cars and still much cheaper than other vehicles with similar performance numbers. You can't argue the fact that GM consistantly puts out some of the best performance cars for the cost, but that doesn't mean that everyone should like them!

[btstone]

i cant believe this thread still is in existance

[iEvo]

i cant believe this thread still is in existance

so why post in it?

[Camrazy2102]

this is some good sh1t reading...lot of hostility up in here lol.

[Lankhoss]

this is some good sh1t reading...lot of hostility up in here lol.

Yeah, brand loyalty is nothing short of brilliant.

[oleblue]

I think both are fun but I like strait line racing better. Just my opinion. Dud saying it is gay is the one that is GAY, this thread has gone to far and should be locked.

This whole thread is fucked up all due to one guy.....................................

[Lankhoss]

I think both are fun but I like strait line racing better. Just my opinion. Dud saying it is gay is the one that is GAY, this thread has gone to far and should be locked.

This whole thread is fucked up all due to one guy.....................................

Fucking Frenchies....

[Camrazy2102]

^ lol, btw don't forget mayonnaise.

[whatever210]

tandems are fun

[Frög]

Yeah, brand loyalty is nothing short of brilliant.

I already said I liked your corvette.. Who are you referring to genius?

Now Pontiac, that is a different story..

[On_Her_Face]

Die thread die.

[SmackedInATL]

Die thread die.

My pleasure.