someone stole my wheels

[GGPIS3]

last night i dropped my car off at batlground. this morning they called me and told me my car was sitting on the ground.. not only did they steal my wheels but they did alot of damage in the process.

if anyone hears of someone trying to sell a set of 18x8 and 18x9.5 SSR GT3's... please let me know.. im willing to give a reward.

thanks in advance...

heres a pic of the wheels on my car...

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/512/medium/211DCP_0080.JPG

[dereksi]

Thats why I ALWAYS request my car to be put inside at night. Sorry bro Ill keep my eye out

[GGPIS3]

yeah... i should have asked.... hindsight is always 20/20. i just cant believe this shit happened still... im still in shock...

[£G2♣]

damnn nice car and wheels sorry to hear ill be on the look out

[Tracy]

funny thing is, the car sat here for weeks without any problems. He took it for a week or so and dropped it back off last night and between then and when we opened this morning it happened. They didn't touch anyone elses cars. It doesn't look like they even tried to touch anyone else's cars.

There was damage on his car, but they didn't even break in the windows or anything. The only damage was caused from them taking the wheels off on the drivers side front quarter panel and the drivers side side skirt. Other than that the car is fine. Wierd!

I don't really get it. I think it was random. Either way, the car is inside now (and so are most of the rest of them).

Lucky for us we've been open 4.5 years with no issues like this. I think we are lucky for that.

I'm sorry this happened :(

[GGPIS3]

i know tracy... i could tell by the loss of words from everyone...

it just doesn't make sense... whoever it was knew my car was there and took what they wanted.. so sad we live in a society where people just take things they don't deserve nor worked for... i work 70 hours a week to buy the things i want and others just take 15 minutes to steal what i worked hard for.... its really f'in pathetic!!

if this were the first time something bad has happened to my car, i would brush it off as a learning experience... but now, i gotta start thinking whether or not to keep up this hobby.... this really sucks to say the least.

[Tracy]

i know tracy... i could tell by the loss of words from everyone...

it just doesn't make sense... whoever it was knew my car was there and took what they wanted.. so sad we live in a society where people just take things they don't deserve nor worked for... i work 70 hours a week to buy the things i want and others just take 15 minutes to steal what i worked hard for.... its really f'in pathetic!!

if this were the first time something bad has happened to my car, i would brush it off as a learning experience... but now, i gotta start thinking whether or not to keep up this hobby.... this really sucks to say the least.


Maybe 3 times is a charm :( OK so that doesn't help. Maybe this will. It'll be fast once we're done with it :)

[aaronfelipe]

that SUCKS. Im sure somebody will be stupid enough to try to sell them here

[GGPIS3]

the only good thing is that i would have had to buy new tires soon, so that would basically cover my $1,000 deductible...

and yeah, the damage wasn't too extensive considering... could have been alot worse... but for stealing just wheels and tires.... the drivers side fender needs to be replaced. the drivers side skirt is jacked up. theres a crease in the drivers door... a dent in the passenger fender and a nice sized foot print :2up: along with the front bumper not aligning well anymore...

thats quite a bit of damage for taking wheels. i just hope my insurance co. pays for my wheels/tires...

[aaronfelipe]

eff that

[djmaddmartin]

Sorry to hear about that dude. At least you still have your car. I had my EF hatch with a b16a/b hybrid stolen. Its long gone! Sorry to hear about your loss though.

[ruah_23]

i work 70 hours a week to buy the things i want and others just take 15 minutes to steal what i worked hard for



70 hrs a wk? :eek:
What do u do? Where do u work?
Sorry to hear abt that dude

[Repost Squintz]

gawd damnnnn wtf 70friggin hours? anyways, sorry bout your loss man. i hate fuggin thieves

[GGPIS3]

yeah... just about 70 hours a week.. i work in sales.

[The Ren]

Damn dude im sorry.. I have those wheels on my supra in 19s they are definatly hot.. I worry about that too... I would be pissed as hell... I will keep an eye out as well.. they arn't that easy to come by and they are expensive as fuck!

[GGPIS3]

thanks everyone... you never think something like this is going to happen.. especially if you've already had as much bad luck as me.. i really do hope the bastards that took them die a slow and painful death...

[The Ren]

Karma is a bitch.. these assholes will get whats going to them.. Have you had the car checked for fingerprints and did the shoe print help?

[The Golden Child]

sry 2 hear about ur wheels ..

hope all dem die so my stuff wont get harmed .. * knock on wood *

gewd luck with the insurance thing ..

[Tank]

i just had to ask in this situation whos responsible cause i have a cousin in florida and he sued the shop and won cause they left his car outside and it got stolen im not sure of the details i think either it was the insurance companys lawyers or his own but anyhow he got paid cause of negligence thats just from what i know but sorry to hear it happened to you maybe you should look into the legal aspects of this again not trying to pry just wanted to share an experience to help

[Tank]

if you need any help let me know i have some friends who are lawyers in our jag office on base

[HiPSI]

i just had to ask in this situation whos responsible cause i have a cousin in florida and he sued the shop and won cause they left his car outside and it got stolen im not sure of the details i think either it was the insurance companys lawyers or his own but anyhow he got paid cause of negligence thats just from what i know but sorry to hear it happened to you maybe you should look into the legal aspects of this again not trying to pry just wanted to share an experience to help


from the sound of things he had dropped his car off at night after the business was closed, which would leave the owner liable. the only way a shop can truly be held liable for this is if it's locked inside and it happens, or if you can prove negligence on their part for leaving it outside, which clearly wasn't the case here.

[Tank]

hmm yeah if thats the case then yeah but if the shop excepted the car that means it was in there care at the time of the incident but like i said i dont know if the wants ill definitly find out for him but when i drop my car off at a shop i sign some paperwork which puts the shop liable but i dont know law crap so you might be right man

[GGPIS3]

i dropped the car off before they closed. it was sitting within their premises with 2 sets of fences surrounding it. i honestly don't know if i can hold them liable. i would ofcourse love to not have to pay out of my own pocket for this incident, but it seems that might be inevitable.

[Tank]

ill check on that for you man cause if you left it with them and they acknowledged that "for example the knew they was gonna be doin work to the car" then it was there responsiblilty to provide security for your vehicle ill look into this id ask your insurance claims adjustor also

[GGPIS3]

but in bg's defense.. they have you sign a preliminary invoice which states in small print that your car must be insured and they will not be held responsible for any theft, damage...etc... thats not word for word but regardless.. i signed it w/o reading the small print..

[COGCaviZ24]

note to self, get a set of locking/sercurity lugnuts

[GGPIS3]

so yeah... i dont know if that relieves them of all responsibility or not... but like i said before... i will probably end up paying for it...

[B16a2 Civic]

so yeah... i dont know if that relieves them of all responsibility or not... but like i said before... i will probably end up paying for it...

did you have a set of locking tuner lugz?
sorry for ya loss, im sure in teh end it will all work out

[ISAtlanta300]

so yeah... i dont know if that relieves them of all responsibility or not... but like i said before... i will probably end up paying for it...

I believe they still have to provide "reasonable" security though. It is not that they can just wash their hands on the matter. If it were so, an employee can just jack your shit and then say "read the fine print, buddy"... It all depends on the circumstances though.

Same thing with Valet parking. Even though it says they are not liable for damage to cars etc, if the Valet does not provide REASONABLE care, and just decide to peel out and sideswipe your rims, or back up into your car, they still have to cover for their mistakes.

I have had both happen to me in the past and on both account I was able to get SOMETHING back.. of course it all depends on the case itself. I would just look into it. Worst thing is that you just pay your deductible and plead to your insurance company on your knees to not raise your rates. Sometimes it helps.

[Tracy]

I believe they still have to provide "reasonable" security though. It is not that they can just wash their hands on the matter. If it were so, an employee can just jack your shit and then say "read the fine print, buddy"... It all depends on the circumstances though.

Same thing with Valet parking. Even though it says they are not liable for damage to cars etc, if the Valet does not provide REASONABLE care, and just decide to peel out and sideswipe your rims, or back up into your car, they still have to cover for their mistakes.

I have had both happen to me in the past and on both account I was able to get SOMETHING back.. of course it all depends on the case itself. I would just look into it. Worst thing is that you just pay your deductible and plead to your insurance company on your knees to not raise your rates. Sometimes it helps.

There is reasonable security. 2 locked gates:). He actually asked right before he left if it would be inside the 2nd set of lacked gates and we said yes. All of the customers are well aware that their car will be stored outside. We don't ask customers to drop their cars off here until we are ready to work on them. In fact, they usually plead with us to drop it off early "incase we can get started on it". There are several reasons we do not encourage people to drop their cars off before we are ready, theft being one of them, not enough space to store all of the cars on on 3 month waiting list and when people drop their cars off before we are ready to work on them, they have a false sense of how long the car has actually taken to work on because they left it here before we were ready. We never lead anyone to believe otherwise as far as where their cars will be stored or when they will be worked on.

Anything that I mentioned above is not directed toward or about any customer in particular. So don't take it personally anyone please :).

We made the waiver becuase we were informed to by our attorney years ago. The print is font size 9...not that small :D

Like I said, I'm sorry that this happened:(. Luckily for us this is the first time that anything like this has happened at either one of our shops.

[Tank]

hmm but thats kind of bad business not to knock on the shop but if i brought my car somewhere to be worked on i would like the peace of mine to know that my car will be there when i return cause like the guy said earlier then yall can steal something off a car and just say look at the fine print but i understand yall have to cover yourself if this shop would like to show a good side maybe they could atleast help the guy out hook him up thats a good show of customer care whats done is done so how would yall help him in the end again im not trying to pressure but i feel real bad for the guy and i dont even know his name

[Tracy]

hmm but thats kind of bad business not to knock on the shop but if i brought my car somewhere to be worked on i would like the peace of mine to know that my car will be there when i return cause like the guy said earlier then yall can steal something off a car and just say look at the fine print but i understand yall have to cover yourself if this shop would like to show good hear thmaybe they could atleast help the guy out hook him up thats a good show of customer care whats done is done so how would yall help him in the end again im not trying to pressure but i feel real bad for the guy and i dont even knwo his name

I think that after being open for almost 5 years without incident and the same employees since the beginning...we are trustworthy. He is getting the hook up. Don't you worry about that:). He was getting the hook up before this happened. I'm sure he will attest to that. His car is still here:). It seems like you are more worried about this than he is. I'm sure he appreciates your sympathy tho :)

So what are your suggestions? I'll gladly take them into consideration. I tell the customers where their car will be stored, I tell them when it will be worked on, we never suggest a person bring their car until we are ready to work on it and finally....we have a waiver drawn up by my attorney that all of the customers sign stating (I'll cut and paste for you) "I hereby authorize the above work to be done along with the necessary material and hereby grant you and/or Batlground's employees permission to operate the vehicle herein described on the street, highways or elsewhere for the purpose of testing and/or inspection. I also acknowledge that Batlground requires that I carry insurance for my own car. By signing this, I agree that I and/or my insurance will be held responsible for any damage to the car itself or its contents, including fire, theft or vanadalism." I think we covered all of our bases incase an incident like this ever happened. Our attorney seems to think so ;)

[b18hb]

i don't think a shop should be held accountable for theft (unless of course the shop is the theif). the shop doesn't say, hey, i think a theif should come steal some stuff today. it just happens and its not somethign that can be controlled.

[B16a2 Civic]

looks like BG has everything in order, and the owner isn't upset that the shop, he's upset at the thieves

[ISAtlanta300]

There is reasonable security. 2 locked gates:). He actually asked right before he left if it would be inside the 2nd set of lacked gates and we said yes. All of the customers are well aware that their car will be stored outside. We don't ask customers to drop their cars off here until we are ready to work on them. In fact, they usually plead with us to drop it off early "incase we can get started on it". There are several reasons we do not encourage people to drop their cars off before we are ready, theft being one of them, not enough space to store all of the cars on on 3 month waiting list and when people drop their cars off before we are ready to work on them, they have a false sense of how long the car has actually taken to work on because they left it here before we were ready. We never lead anyone to believe otherwise as far as where their cars will be stored or when they will be worked on.

Anything that I mentioned above is not directed toward or about any customer in particular. So don't take it personally anyone please :).

We made the waiver becuase we were informed to by our attorney years ago. The print is font size 9...not that small :D

Like I said, I'm sorry that this happened:(. Luckily for us this is the first time that anything like this has happened at either one of our shops.


Likewise, I was not pointing fingers either at your shop etc... like I said.. it all depends on circumstances... I would say good luck to both of you :)

[GGPIS3]

yeah.. im not mad at bg... if i had asked for my car to be parked inside the shop and they didn't, i would be furious, but that wasn't the case. im more upset at myself for not reading the small print.. if i had read it, i would have only left my car there if they promised to keep it indoors at night which is where its being kept now.

i don't expect bg to help out with this situation more than they already have... but ofcourse, since this is the first time anything like this has happened at their shop, it would be nice if they offered to help out with my deductible seeing that i've spent a decent amount of money with them in a short period. that would definitely show some major customer support and appreciation in such a terrible situation as this....

[Tracy]

yeah.. im not mad at bg... if i had asked for my car to be parked inside the shop and they didn't, i would be furious, but that wasn't the case. im more upset at myself for not reading the small print.. if i had read it, i would have only left my car there if they promised to keep it indoors at night which is where its being kept now.

i don't expect bg to help out with this situation more than they already have... but ofcourse, since this is the first time anything like this has happened at their shop, it would be nice if they offered to help out with my deductible seeing that i've spent a decent amount of money with them in a short period. that would definitely show some major customer support and appreciation in such a terrible situation as this....

I understand. But the money you spent was because another shop messed up your car, true? :) but that's neither here nor there right now (except for the fact being brought up about how much money you spent here). You're getting a deal already whether you realize it or not. And I'm not trying to throw that in your face. It's just to hope that you understand that Dan spent a lot more time on your car then was charged. Dan usually short changes himself since he doesn't have to pay a tech when he works on the car. There was no way that anyone besides Dan would have been able to sort out the mess going on.

Unfortunately, we don't make as much money as I think everyone thinks we do. If we have to worry about paying for things that may happen like this, then we have to raise our rates to be able to come out of pocket incase of things like this. Right now we just make enought to cover our bills most of the time. Don't think that because we have a few fast cars that we are balling out of control. The cars are a necessary evil for the advertising of the shop. We do what we can to cover our behinds and I think we did in this case. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the 2 g's to give you for the wheels, but unfortunately I don't. The best I can do is use it as a lesson for the future and help you in anyway that I can in dealing with the insurance company. We already discussed that. I think that our customer support is the best it can be. I mean we got your car running in 2 days when the other shops couldn't do it in months. We even bumped it to the front of the line because we felt bad for your situation. None of that had anything to do with your wheels getting stolen (obviously this before the occurance)...that's just how we do.

It's kind of like a gas station or a grocery store. Just like the grocery store prices go up if people keep stealing the carts. There's a sign right on the carts that say this "in order to help us keep our prices low, please return the carts back to their proper place...blah blah blah"

I mean this sucks! Ya know? I'm sorry this happened...I'll say it over and over. It's not like I'm happy that this made it onto a public forum, although I knew it would. I just have to have faith that I'm doing the best I can with the situation given.

[BTEC]

STFU, EVERYBODY!!!!
C YAWL L8ER

[Tank]

i understand that tracy and i was looking into shops for my supra i hear this and that and no incident for that long is good im glad to hear everything is being worked out

[GGPIS3]

It'll be fast once we're done with it :)

so tracy... what happened to this claim?? thought my car was gonna be fast once it left your shop??? it went to ur shop with about 5.5 lbs of boost and it left with about 7 lbs of boost... oOoOOOOOoOOOooOoOOoOOoOO WOW!!

it cost me almost $2,000 for an extra 1.5 lbs of boost! can i get big :2up:






ps. speedmonkey says hi. xoxoxo






ps ps. as much as i've disliked you from the beginning... even Dan can attest to that... cuz i told him so when i first came there and met you... i can honestly say i've kept a tight lip.. .dont know what you've heard, dont really care... but in my eyes... i've been more than fair about our situation.

but you have to always have a big ass mouth and run it all the damn time. they can close that last thread where we tore you apart and then you and dan (sorry dan, i still like you, but u need better taste in women and business partners) go and make FOOLS of yourselves going off about the wrong damn oil pump!! LMFAO..... but you crossed the line when you insinuated i stole my own wheels. thats just FUCKED UP!

you think i dont have eyes and ears all over the place? i know alot more then you think i do... this is far from over.... i was gonna let bygones be bygones and take my losses.... guess thats not gonna happen anymore...


i do believe in karma, and a wanna be bitch like you will get hers in the end!

[i4_garage]

^^shop should take some sort of responsibility if the car is parked inside the gate or fence.......but anything outside the shop under owner responsibilities then its all on the owner of the vehicle.....but this incident is very fuked up.....i curse the Thieves that did this....they should go to hell......u can never succeed in life if u take other people shit

[fight club]

in before the lock.

[CSquared]

in because i didnt want to go through the process of subscribing.

[rolling_trip]

but you crossed the line when you insinuated i stole my own wheels.


huh? who would do that to their own car?

[CSquared]

huh? who would do that to their own car?

Someone trying to make a quick buck if the shop was going to reimburse them or someone just trying to make the shop look bad... not saying that is the case because i've never dealt with any of these people on a personal basis, but those would probably be the "reasons" if any.

[Speedm0(\)key]

Someone trying to make a quick buck if the shop was going to reimburse them or someone just trying to make the shop look bad... not saying that is the case because i've never dealt with any of these people on a personal basis, but those would probably be the "reasons" if any.

yeah, i guess you have to know dan, he wishes death upon the bugs that land on his car.

when they took the wheels, car was dropped on floor, fenders kicked in a bit, and sideskirts were cracked ETC.

[iloveboost]

I don't understand why anyone would clear two fences to steal one set of wheels and not touch anything else.

[Ninety Four]

I know shops say they aren't liable for mishaps like this, but considering it was their mistake for leaving the car outside, you'd think they would at least offer to cut you a deal on whatever work you were having done...

What are they going to do to make it right?

[ct9a gsr]

I know shops say they aren't liable for mishaps like this, but considering it was their mistake for leaving the car outside, you'd think they would at least offer to cut you a deal on whatever work you were having done...

We're talking about BG, el oh el!


What are they going to do to make it right?

Overcharging him, making false promises, and hinting that he may have stole his own wheels are just some of the things they've done to make it "right."... at least BG's version of "right."

[Vteckidd]

ill let this remain open, but EVERYONE tread lightly. Watch an choose your words wisely.

I will say one thing, OBJECTIVELY.


i am willing to bet if you call around, 99.9% of ALL SHOPS/DEALERSHIPS operate this way. We would all go out of business if we covered everything that happens to a customers car. Now, we have never had a problem with breakins because of our security measures an because Powder Springs Police is right next door an they patrol this area regularly at night. If someone broke into our building an stole his car, then i would file a police report, an he would have to go through the proper channels to get his car back through HIS insurance. I would NOT come out of pocket $30,000 an buy a new car. sorry , i dont have that kinda scratch. Now, everytime you claim an incident on your insurance, your premiums go up, an it gets EXPENSIVE. so you must choose wisely when you "eat it" an when you should "claim".

Now, if his car was left in our parking lot an his wheels were stolen, then, i would probalby cover half his deductable out of good "faith". if he is spending money on his car, its worth it to me to spend $250-500 deductible to make sure he is happy an ill make it back when he comes in to get more work done. That instance i would prob bite the bullet, but it would ultimetly be up to our owner.

but we do have a strict "we do not cover" your car policy. We will be responsible for any scratches, dings, dents to his body, but i cant cover theft of property. its a shitty situation, everyone pretty much gets screwed the shop an the customer.

Best thing i can say is this issue is over with. Batlground will not pay for his wheels, thats already been said. Batlground has their own policy which he signed. ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT, ITS THERE FOR A REASON. Negligence on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. you guys are the CONSUMERS, protect yourself an know what is happening with your car. BAtlground has a policy that they have had for YEARS, an you must sign it. Dan signed it, an unfortunetly, it was a bad situation for everyone.

If you have a problem, take it up with Batlground personally, or, call them on thee phone. THIS WILL NOT TURN INTO ANOTHER SHOP BASHING THREAD. IM SICK AN TIRED OF SEEING BOTH SIDES ACT LIKE CHILDREN. IF I SEE ANY REFERENCE TO TOPSPE-ED vs BATLGROUND i will delete this thread like the other.

last warning

[Big Baller]

Topsp eed is gay

[Big Baller]

In before the lock

[Vteckidd]

Topsp eed is gay
the line is here ____________________________________


your over here------->

that means you crossed it :tongue: