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allmotoronly
04-20-2009, 04:21 PM
This time I'm going back to my car tuning roots. I've decided to build a budget V8 "muscle car" for mostly track use. I've thought over the options. For extra fun and to make it a challange I'm going to give myself a $10k budget for the whole thing. I guess the only two cars that meet my requirements are the GM F-body (Camaro/Firebird) and the Ford Mustang. The next question is which body/engine combination should I choose?
Answer the poll and please reply with why you made that choice.
reps given for USEFUL information
IndianStig
04-20-2009, 04:24 PM
definetly go with an LT1 camaro/ta with an STS rear turbokit
Get what you want. Cause ultimately, it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. Don't let the internet pursued your decision. Just do you, man.
allmotoronly
04-20-2009, 04:30 PM
ok poll is up. My top choice at the moment would be the 94-95 Mustang GT 5.0L for two reasons. One: IMO they are better looking than fox body mustangs. Two: A 302 SBF can be made into a monster with the $6k+ I would have left over after buying the car.
The $10k budget is just for the initial build. I will of course do a few other necessary upgrades to make the car track worthy (rebuild transmission, suspension work, etc)
allmotoronly
04-20-2009, 04:32 PM
Get what you want. Cause ultimately, it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. Don't let the internet pursued your decision. Just do you, man.
Ok that was a typical generic IA response.
I didn't post a thread saying "what car should I buy?", knowing there are thousands of different cars out there to choose from. I gave my top two choices and was looking for some input from people who may have more knowledge or hands on experience about either of these cars than I. I have no problem picking my own cars. Thats why I have built countless differrent types of cars over the years. I don't have any experience with newer F bodies (I own a 78 Trans Am, but it has pretty much nothing in common with newer F bodies), and I only have a little experience with mustangs (my brother in law had a 98 GT and now has a 97 cobra that I have done some work on). I have probably forgotten more about honda's than you will ever know, but I'm tired of spending huge amounts of money on a honda just to make it as fast as a stock or bolt ons only V8 car.
SampaGuy
04-20-2009, 05:24 PM
All of those cars drive about the same way lol. I would get a camaro for the T-tops.
allmotoronly
04-20-2009, 05:44 PM
All of those cars drive about the same way lol. I would get a camaro for the T-tops.
T tops might compromise the structural integrity. I just want a plain hard top.
HypnoToad
04-20-2009, 05:51 PM
cant get any bettter for a project than a foxbody
okra1981
04-20-2009, 08:07 PM
'94-'95 because I can picture it on a road course, the Fox body seems more ridiculous in my mind, don't get me wrong, they look good in a straight line. I bet a Camaro like Hypno's would be a pretty good track car as well, but it wasn't listed.
pr0x3n3ta
04-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Get an rx7 if you want some real bang for the buck
Bruce Leroy
04-21-2009, 11:46 AM
Turbo bmw... e36 325i's can be had for dirt cheap. And they make good power when boosted.
heres one,
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/1124874491.html
If you bought this, and spent the rest on mods, you would have a fast ass car.
87 Turbo II
04-21-2009, 12:37 PM
Get an rx7 if you want some real bang for the buck
Anyone who want's these cars isn't going to appreciate the Rx-7, even the turbocharged ones aren't as torquey as a V8.
allmotoronly
04-21-2009, 04:42 PM
Anyone who want's these cars isn't going to appreciate the Rx-7, even the turbocharged ones aren't as torquey as a V8.
I appreciate the RX-7... I've just been through that stage already. I wouldn't know where to start with a rotary engine. And I'm pretty sure a FD with a LS swap would completely blow my budget. I really want a car I can mostly build myself, including the engine, which I plan to only send out for machine shop work. This is a budget build. I want the most bang for the buck. Thats why I've picked these otherwise shitty american cars to build. The enigines are simple to work on and they make a shitload of power if built right. If my budget was a little higher I may consider something else, but I've already bought too much shit this year as it is...
eraser4g63
04-21-2009, 08:39 PM
As an RX-7 owner I can attest to have Torque just depends on how it is put together. I voted for the fox body, build the motor and turbo charge the shit out of it with a lil bit of Nitrous, There is a car that will haul ass.
ksniperfox
04-22-2009, 10:17 AM
foxbody. like you said, easy engine to work on and easy to make power. build the bottom a little, with some aluminum heads and boost it, or throw some nitrous at it. there is a plethora of aftermarket parts to support you. the bodies can be had for a dime a dozen...
add some good tires and whatnot for the track and youre set.
HypnoToad
04-22-2009, 11:06 AM
foxbody. like you said, easy engine to work on and easy to make power. build the bottom a little, with some aluminum heads and boost it, or throw some nitrous at it. there is a plethora of aftermarket parts to support you. the bodies can be had for a dime a dozen...
add some good tires and whatnot for the track and youre set.
well u could do one better and get a foxbody and put a sbc in it:D
wannab20hatch
04-22-2009, 01:47 PM
none of the above
www.pacificroadster.com
cobra kit car. cant be had for 10k and you just need a cheap ass foxbody donor car. talk about coolness factor. if i had 10k its what i would do.
atlxpat
04-22-2009, 09:11 PM
none of those, 280z drop in an LS1
i heard you can get near 50/50 weight ratio with an ls1 in it with light weight parts
03RCode
04-22-2009, 09:14 PM
For power/money ratio its hard to beat a 96-98 GT. Do a PI head swap (port the heads while before install), small cams (XE262's for example), PI intake, plenum, TB, CAI, gear, tune. That will make plenty of power for a fun street car, get decent mileage, as well as still be VERY reliable. With just a PI swap without porting, cams, etc. I ran a 13.090 in my 96 GT.
IndianStig
04-22-2009, 09:24 PM
LT1+STS Rear Turbo would not blow your budget.
http://www.ststurbo.com/camaro_lt1
$4000 car
$4095 Turbo Kit
$500 tuning
__________
$8595+shipping for kit and installation which is not hard on a rear turbo kit i hear
allmotoronly
04-22-2009, 11:58 PM
For power/money ratio its hard to beat a 96-98 GT. Do a PI head swap (port the heads while before install), small cams (XE262's for example), PI intake, plenum, TB, CAI, gear, tune. That will make plenty of power for a fun street car, get decent mileage, as well as still be VERY reliable. With just a PI swap without porting, cams, etc. I ran a 13.090 in my 96 GT.
Yea, but for the same amount of money I could get a 94-95 and build the 302 (331 striker kit, alum heads, comp roller cam, efi to carb conversion, victor or intake manifold, holley 750 carb, msd ignition, 75-125 shot of spray, etc). It would make more power. I don't want a 13 sec car, I want a sub 12 sec car.
03RCode
04-23-2009, 12:00 AM
Thats why I said port the heads, cam, gear, etc. My car ran a 13.090 on street tires, 3.23 gear, stock shifter, stock air intake tube, and on stock cams. No porting at all on the heads either.
allmotoronly
04-23-2009, 07:03 AM
Yea but trying to make over 400hp on a 2 valve 4.6 is going to cost a lot more in the long run than on a 5.0...
primespark22
04-23-2009, 08:27 AM
drop an ls1 on a civic and your set then just do 1500 on mods and your set
lol
allmotoronly
04-23-2009, 09:44 AM
drop an ls1 on a civic and your set then just do 1500 on mods and your set
lol
I'm pretty sure it would cost more than $1500 just in parts to put a rwd ls1 engine into a fwd car.... Besides, I'm done with honda's for a while.
what the fuck is a V8 :thinking:.........im just kidding i say go with the 94-94 5.slow only because i had one loved every min. of it and wish i had never gotten rid of it
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