which car handles better??

[terrytowe22]

89-91 prelude si 2.0 with all wheel steering
or
mini cooper non-s

[MINI]

Mini Cooper Non-S lol



Edit: lol damn terry does anyone reply to your threads except me?

[terrytowe22]

i guess not lol i put non-s cause does'nt the supercharge ones have a upgraded suspension.

[green91]

im gonna go with the mini.

[MINI]

i guess not lol i put non-s cause does'nt the supercharge ones have a upgraded suspension.

Yeah but there extra weight kinda offsets it.

But yes, different springs and sway bars. Honestly, it doesnt matter because the Non-s is just as nimple.

I cant wait to install my H&R rear sway bar :D

[HypnoToad]

my car /thread

[EJ25RUN]

my car /thread
you change your name?

[HypnoToad]

you change your name?

some how my account got screwed up,and they are trying to fix it,so for now this is my name.

[EJ25RUN]

some how my account got screwed up,and they are trying to fix it,so for now this is my name.
Oh i see. I thought you vanished.

[HypnoToad]

Oh i see. I thought you vanished.

nah,im still here.....havent really been hitting up ur threads lately....i should get back to that:cheers:

[EJ25RUN]

nah,im still here.....havent really been hitting up ur threads lately....i should get back to that:cheers:
nice.

[MINI]

lol thread jack

Mini-2, Prelude-1

[EJ25RUN]

All wheel steering will make a car feel strange through a corner. It will take away a lot of the driver's instincts.

I say Mini.

[Elbow]

Mini for sure.

[MINI]

Mini-4, Prelude-1.

[Jecht]

All wheel steering will make a car feel strange through a corner. It will take away a lot of the driver's instincts.

I say Mini.


The all wheel steering on those Preludes is fully mechanical though. The all wheel steering Prelude is the only production car that has ever used mechanical all wheel steering. Its hard to say. The Prelude is an inch wider than the Mini, and several inches shorter with most of the weight lower to the ground. I'd say that theoretically the Prelude should definitely handle better than the Mini, but if you are competing in some form it entirely depends on the driver.

[amped4life33]

Mini Cooper Non-S lol



Edit: lol damn terry does anyone reply to your threads except me?

It's good to see you show a clean, non-biased opinion..

[DavidV]

the new bmw 7 series has 4ws i believe, but i think it cuts off at like 15 mhp. It's mainly for parking the sob.

[ludeguy420]

im going to say the prelude cuz i have one myself with the all wheel steering. and im hitting turns faster than alot of my friends an it has the stock springs an all.. but it does get scary when your going like 110 and the rear wheel still turn unlike the newer cars the real wheels stop turning at 40 mph

[Elbow]

^Where the fuck are you turning at 110 anyway?

[ludeguy420]

316 headed toward athens when i first got it. i wanted to see what it would do. i know it was dump to be going that fast on the highway but everybody has done it once or twice

[FlipKing]

Miata. Wait..thats not a choice. dammit. lol

[Revmaynard]

316 headed toward athens when i first got it. i wanted to see what it would do. i know it was dump to be going that fast on the highway but everybody has done it once or twice


lol, dump.

[ludeguy420]

shit my fault i just read that it was 'dumb'

[matthewAPM]

mini cooper. National autocross results in Stock class will prove this...

[01CDMLUDER]

I'm gonna say the prelude lol

[MINI]

Since preludes are known world wide for their handling right? Wrong, thats a Mini.

[HypnoToad]

i remember awhile back that the prelude SH was named best handling car under 30k

[MINI]

i remember awhile back that the prelude SH was named best handling car under 30k


In 1989? :lmfao:

[HypnoToad]

In 1989? :lmfao:

no that was the 5th gen prelude in 1997

also

"In 1987, Road & Track (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_%26_Track) published a test summary that shows the 1988 Honda Prelude 2.0Si 4WS outperforming every car of that year on the Slalom, including all Lamborghinis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini), Ferraris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari), and Porsches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche). It went through the slalom at 65.5 mph (105.4 km/h), an amazing result for the time. For reference, the 1988 Corvette took the same course at 64.9 mph (104.4 km/h)."

and its pretty unfair to compare these cars anyways

[Revmaynard]

In 1989? :lmfao:


ACtually is was like 1999.

[TypeRPersonality]

Wasn't the second generation Prelude considered one of the best handling cars world-wide? I'm sure they only improved upon it on the third generation.

The Prelude was the first to have Honda's double wishbone suspension. The Prelude had a mechanical 4WS system that was unmatched. The Prelude was also the first to have a torque-vectoring system. Prelude wins in my book.

[IndianStig]

Prelude for sure!

[andrewkd16]

if mini has that wing on that i sold him, i say him for sure i was racing a r1 through some turns where i live and we were going about 135 and i swear that was the only thing keeping my rear end stuck to the pavement cause i could feel the car slidding oh and i beat him through the turns he got me on the straight away though lol, gotta love my z though! so i am going to say mini

[Cool Cat Racing]

A reasonably setup car will always corner faster than a bike. As for the original post, the Mini will win hands down. As MatthewAPM said, numerous races/times have already proven this so there is no room for speculation.

[ludeguy420]

i think alot of people that think the mini has better handling are forgetting that this isn't the 2.0si prelude this is the 2.0si aws.. an the all wheel steering makes a big difference cuz i have drivin both makes of the prelude an the aws has way better control

[Sport1.3]

the Mini


"In 1987, Road & Track published a test summary that shows the 1988 Honda Prelude 2.0Si 4WS outperforming every car of that year on the Slalom, including all Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and Porsches. It went through the slalom at 65.5 mph (105.4 km/h), an amazing result for the time. For reference, the 1988 Corvette took the same course at 64.9 mph (104.4 km/h)."


Edmunds tested the New Convertible Mini at 64mph in the slalom....that's significantly heavier than a base model non convertible and 67mph for the Cooper S convertible.

Roadandtrack times
700ft slalom speeds
Cooper - 65.2mph
Cooper Conv. - 64 mph
Cooper S - 67.9
Cooper S conv - 67.1
Cooper Clubman S - 67.2
Cooper S WORKS - ???

So the BONE stock BASE MODEL mini is right there with the TOP of the line Prelude. Though i dont see any 88 preludes winning national titles and world praise specifically for their extreme ability to carve up the pavement.

[Sport1.3]

Mazda Protege MP3 ran the 700ft at 70.2 mph, only bested by the Lotus Elise (73mph) in 2002 and a 71.4mph in 2003 in the Mazdaspeed Protege....just saying

one of 3 production cars tested that year that broke 70mph speeds ( Porsche 911 turbo, Lotus Elise, Mazda MP3)

[MINI]

This is a very interesting thread, thanks everyone for their input.

[TypeRPersonality]

So the BONE stock BASE MODEL mini is right there with the TOP of the line Prelude. Though i dont see any 88 preludes winning national titles and world praise specifically for their extreme ability to carve up the pavement.

But when were those Mini's produced?

[MINI]

But when were those Mini's produced?


02+

So the OP is compareing early 90's technology to early 00's technology.

[HypnoToad]

02+

So the OP is compareing early 90's technology to early 00's technology.

thats like comparing a C6 to a C4,ofcourse the mini should handle better

[GodSon]

Neither. They both suck.

[Catnip]

thats like comparing a C6 to a C4,ofcourse the mini should handle better

The OP is comparing two different type of cars. It's not like comparing a C6 and a C4. In your logic a 2003 350z and a 2003 Z06 should handle the same and a 2009 scion xB should handle better than a 1997 corvette.

[HypnoToad]

The OP is comparing two different type of cars. It's not like comparing a C6 and a C4. In your logic a 2003 350z and a 2003 Z06 should handle the same and a 2009 scion xB should handle better than a 1997 corvette.

not really i mean,its two 4cyl FWD sports coupes....i mean i get what ur saying,but i just ment...its not fair to compare cars from two different time periods.

u know

[tdurr]

not really i mean,its two 4cyl FWD sports coupes....i mean i get what ur saying,but i just ment...its not fair to compare cars from two different time periods.

u know


He is on point.
but before i would vote, i would have to drive both on the same tires, on the same road. :yes:

[Sport1.3]

Neither. They both suck.


Says the civic owner :rolleyes:

[green91]

So old cars cant handle well? What about EF civics or tic-tac miatas?

Granted i know the question was about a prelude vs mini, but the stupidity in this thread is overwhelming.

http://www.soloatlanta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2009points_points.htm

Why dont you take a look how many EF civic/crx (88-91) are on that list compared to your "new technology" mini.

If you're ignorant, thats your business.. but please don't spread this false nonsense.

[matthewAPM]

So old cars cant handle well? What about EF civics or tic-tac miatas?

Granted i know the question was about a prelude vs mini, but the stupidity in this thread is overwhelming.

http://www.soloatlanta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2009points_points.htm

Why dont you take a look how many EF civic/crx (88-91) are on that list compared to your "new technology" mini.

If you're ignorant, thats your business.. but please don't spread this false nonsense.

STFU

[green91]

Who are you again?

[01CDMLUDER]

Since preludes are known world wide for their handling right? Wrong, thats a Mini.

Wrong. They're both known for handling. Had a 4th gen with 4ws and have 5th gen SH. Both cars has balls

[EJ25RUN]

But when were those Mini's produced?

What's the relevance to that question? You know exactly when they were produced.

[01CDMLUDER]

Check out this Prelude at a dirt track. A car flips right in front it... Just look at that handling

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=43942163

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=43939915

The lude is for sale on Craigslist lol

[TypeRPersonality]

What's the relevance to that question? You know exactly when they were produced.

I seriously didn't.