Why with today's job market?

[stillaneon]

As some of you know, I manage a Sprint Store.

About once a week or so, I have someone come in looking for a job. That's understandable, I'm not hiring, but I don't mind keeping resumes on file. Here recently though, I have seen an increase in people coming in dressed in:

Sweat pants
Ripped Jeans
T-shirts
Un Shaven
Bracelets
Tennis Shoes
Flip Flops

and even worse, reeking of cigarette smoke.

Now, I have nothing against smokers. But at some point, did no one ever tell you not to smell like smoke.

I just had a guy walk out of here in his torn designer jeans, nike shox and a short sleeve t-shirt with a hoodie, smelling like a 3 day old ashtray after asking for a job. I almost choked on the stench of the smoke, and I was just astounded at the courage.

Can anyone explain this to me, why if you really needed a job, why you wouldn't dress professionally and maybe not smoke a cigarette right before you walked in to ask for a job.

Does anyone think this is acceptable. Would you hire anyone who did this?

[Paul]

that doesn't sound that bad i normally don't wear any pants to interviews...

http://www.crusheddreams.com/roy/albums/NoPantsDay2004/NoPantsDay2004_IMakeBoysCry.jpg

[Sammich]

did he have a slightly proud/snobbish demeanor?


that doesn't sound that bad i normally don't wear any pants to interviews...

http://www.crusheddreams.com/roy/albums/NoPantsDay2004/NoPantsDay2004_IMakeBoysCry.jpg

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Jimmy B]

shows the respect and knowledge of the kids today.. none

parents just stopped caring i guess.. they didnt tech the new generation a thing

[Greddypacked]

WOW, that is some BS. When i go looking for a job, i wear upper attire clothes, clean shaven, smell clean, smile on my face w/ a resume in hand. To answer your question no i wouldnt hire anyone that would do what you stated above.

[Type-R]

Yup, that is today's youth. Not a clue!

[SL33P3R]

People come in like that because they dont think those rules apply. And they believe that you owe them something. haha

I had a lady come in my car lot the other day asking me If I had any cars for $100 a month. I politely said "Ma'am my cell phone bill is $150 a month, so no we dont have a car that cheap. No dealership would"

People these days always thinking people owe them something...damn

a bit off topic but needed to rant

[BanginJimmy]

I went into autozone looking for a job and i was wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, and a tie to go along with a fresh haircut and shave. I was only going in asking for an application too.

[oneSLOWex]

I went into autozone looking for a job and i was wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, and a tie to go along with a fresh haircut and shave. I was only going in asking for an application too.

Exactly the way it should be done. I know people who go into a place wearing torn jeans and tshirts and wonder why they dont get called about the job :thinking:

[BanginJimmy]

Exactly the way it should be done. I know people who go into a place wearing torn jeans and tshirts and wonder why they dont get called about the job :thinking:


I never said I got any calls back, but I do go in looking professional.

[stillaneon]

that doesn't sound that bad i normally don't wear any pants to interviews...

http://www.crusheddreams.com/roy/albums/NoPantsDay2004/NoPantsDay2004_IMakeBoysCry.jpg

Most companies make exceptions for the mentally challenged...

[SampaGuy]

You should say something next time.

[Sammich]

Most companies make exceptions for the mentally challenged...

bi-lo for instance...teh bi-lo i worked for...i swear to god all they did was hire retards for like the last year i worked there

[Crazy Asian]

hire me stillaneon. And you'd have the most hardest work....by logging onto IA. LOL

[stillaneon]

People come in like that because they dont think those rules apply. And they believe that you owe them something. haha

I had a lady come in my car lot the other day asking me If I had any cars for $100 a month. I politely said "Ma'am my cell phone bill is $150 a month, so no we dont have a car that cheap. No dealership would"

People these days always thinking people owe them something...damn

a bit off topic but needed to rant

I used to sell cars. Its not that we owe them, people just want something for nothing. It's human nature. I worked for numerous different dealers and it doesn;t matter whether or not I worked for dodge or lincoln or BMW, people wanted 100 a month payments.

[oneSLOWex]

I never said I got any calls back, but I do go in looking professional.
I know...but actually looking like you care can make a huge difference.

[stillaneon]

You should say something next time.

I did once, and it didn't even phase the person. I just think it comes down to ignorance.

I wont ask for an application to a place unless I look decent enough to work immediately.

[AirMax95]

Can anyone explain this to me, why if you really needed a job, why you wouldn't dress professionally and maybe not smoke a cigarette right before you walked in to ask for a job.

Does anyone think this is acceptable. Would you hire anyone who did this?

You would be surprised at the amount of people that just DO NOT KNOW.

From young to old, there has been a severe disconnect in job etiquette.

Of course you do have the lazy stupid people that just do not care.

It is not acceptable at all, but I would point them in the right direction if they are willing to listen.

[SL33P3R]

Its starting to get to the point that people covered in tattoos, people who think not shaving is cool, and people who have hoola hoop gauges in their ears are just gonna be fucked. Its getting desperate, not employer is going to want someone looking like that working for them. Period

[stillaneon]

I was always taught to dress appropriately. I went and applied at a land survey company and wore a suit. the owner joked about how I needed to dress down for the job, but that he appreciated the fact that I was willing to dress up to come meet him.

I've had interviews with friends of the family and never wore less than a button down and slacks.

And I NEVER smoke before an interview. Once my cologne or aftershave goes on, I do not do anything else until after the interview.

[AirMax95]

Its starting to get to the point that people covered in tattoos, people who think not shaving is cool, and people who have hoola hoop gauges in their ears are just gonna be fucked. Its getting desperate, not employer is going to want someone looking like that working for them. Period

Employers are beefing up the requirements outside of your experience. They want the most dedicated worker they can find, so your personality and image is going to weigh as much as your brains.

People need to get it together or find themselves jobless AFTER the economy picks up.

[Sammich]

I was always taught to dress appropriately. I went and applied at a land survey company and wore a suit. the owner joked about how I needed to dress down for the job, but that he appreciated the fact that I was willing to dress up to come meet him.

I've had interviews with friends of the family and never wore less than a button down and slacks.

And I NEVER smoke before an interview. Once my cologne or aftershave goes on, I do not do anything else until after the interview.

i was joked on too even when i came in for my interview and started working where i am now. i came to work with tie, nice dress shirt and slacks, and didnt stop wearing ties until i was told it wasnt company policy to HAVE on a tie. if i didnt, i would probably still be wearing ties and wearing suits and the such to work.

[stillaneon]

Its starting to get to the point that people covered in tattoos, people who think not shaving is cool, and people who have hoola hoop gauges in their ears are just gonna be fucked. Its getting desperate, not employer is going to want someone looking like that working for them. Period

I'm covered in tattoos, but my boss didn't even know. He was extremely suprised to find out that my right arm is almost completely sleeved.

Its not the tattoos. It's presentation. I wear long sleeves because I think it looks nicer. I could get a job as a mechanic or whatever doing manual work and not give a shit about my tattoos. But I knew before i got them that I was planning on working in a field where I would wear long sleeves.

[SL33P3R]

Employers are beefing up the requirements outside of your experience. They want the most dedicated worker they can find, so your personality and image is going to weigh as much as your brains.

People need to get it together or find themselves jobless AFTER the economy picks up.


Thats what Im saying. Especially in sales, your appearance is the biggest key.

[Paul]

Most companies make exceptions for the mentally challenged...

your right i even get a blue parking spot upfront at work :goodjob:

[SL33P3R]

I'm covered in tattoos, but my boss didn't even know. He was extremely suprised to find out that my right arm is almost completely sleeved.

Its not the tattoos. It's presentation. I wear long sleeves because I think it looks nicer. I could get a job as a mechanic or whatever doing manual work and not give a shit about my tattoos. But I knew before i got them that I was planning on working in a field where I would wear long sleeves.


Exactly. But you wear longsleeves to work everyday Im sure. But with tattoos on your neck, hands etc is not going to cut it. I will have a full sleeve when Im all down also, But you would never be able to tell when Im at work

[AirMax95]

i was joked on too even when i came in for my interview and started working where i am now. i came to work with tie, nice dress shirt and slacks, and didnt stop wearing ties until i was told it wasnt company policy to HAVE on a tie. if i didnt, i would probably still be wearing ties and wearing suits and the such to work.

I dressed for interviews like I was posing for the cover of GQ :lmfao:

My office now is very casual, but we are relocating next week, merging 2 offices. Since my VP will see me everyday, I am breaking out the ties and dress shirts all day long. Oh, and I get to see all the cute females FINALLY!

Dress to impress people cause you NEVER know who may be watching.

[stillaneon]

your right i even get a blue parking spot upfront at work :goodjob:


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That just means VW parking. :doh:

[Sammich]

I dressed for interviews like I was posing for the cover of GQ :lmfao:

My office now is very casual, but we are relocating next week, merging 2 offices. Since my VP will see me everyday, I am breaking out the ties and dress shirts all day long. Oh, and I get to see all the cute females FINALLY!

Dress to impress people cause you NEVER know who may be watching.

lol x2 when i left out for the interview i felt like i just stepped off the runway. my office is casual as well..so casual that i remember seeing shorts around here. i wear jeans on thursday sometimes (last day of my work week) but am in khakis, polo shirt, button up shirt or sweater or something dressy when i come in. hell i dress better than my boss 90% of the time when i dress up

[Killer]

I did once, and it didn't even phase the person. I just think it comes down to ignorance.

I wont ask for an application to a place unless I look decent enough to work immediately.

for sure the way to do it!!! :goodjob:

[stillaneon]

for sure the way to do it!!! :goodjob:

the only way I know how

[flak_monkey]

I like it when people ask if we are hiring installers. Of course they are never certified and their cars/systems always look like complete shit. Friends don't let friends install car audio.

[Jimmy B]

Its starting to get to the point that people covered in tattoos, people who think not shaving is cool, and people who have hoola hoop gauges in their ears are just gonna be fucked. Its getting desperate, not employer is going to want someone looking like that working for them. Period

As a buisness owner, I would NEVER hire someone that had there ears streached, visable tattoos, or there apperiance didnt look professional, and with my buisness you only see clients once every 3 weeks or so.



Dress to impress people cause you NEVER know who may be watching.
This is somethign to ALWAYS remember...
I am im a great place in my industry, and have alot of people watching me, and I never fully realize it until that e-mail comes through about somethign i did for some child, or a complement that I gave.. It really makes you feel good..

Remember that quote,.. if nothing else

[stillaneon]

As a buisness owner, I would NEVER hire someone that had there ears streached, visable tattoos, or there apperiance didnt look professional, and with my buisness you only see clients once every 3 weeks or so.


This is somethign to ALWAYS remember...
I am im a great place in my industry, and have alot of people watching me, and I never fully realize it until that e-mail comes through about somethign i did for some child, or a complement that I gave.. It really makes you feel good..

Remember that quote,.. if nothing else

Just out of curiousity.

What do you do?

[Jimmy B]

Design and manufacture, sports footware,... cycling shoes, inline speed skate boots, and ice speed skating boots

[b.a.d. s2000]

I own a Quiznos and i have a lot of applicants walk through the door looking for a job. Some of them had tank top on, cigs in their hands. One guy was talking on his bluetooth while asking for an application!!!! There is one guy that just blows my mind, he came in and said, "hey, let me get an application" while talking on his phone, had blue jeans, tank top and flip flops on. He was extremely rude, so when i told him no, he had the nerve asking me why? I just don't understand what people think now a days.

[hondachik]

And they wonder why they are jobless :thinking:

[stillaneon]

I own a Quiznos and i have a lot of applicants walk through the door looking for a job. Some of them had tank top on, cigs in their hands. One guy was talking on his bluetooth while asking for an application!!!! There is one guy that just blows my mind, he came in and said, "hey, let me get an application" while talking on his phone, had blue jeans, tank top and flip flops on. He was extremely rude, so when i told him no, he had the nerve asking me why? I just don't understand what people think now a days.

Where is your store?

[SL33P3R]

I own a Quiznos and i have a lot of applicants walk through the door looking for a job. Some of them had tank top on, cigs in their hands. One guy was talking on his bluetooth while asking for an application!!!! There is one guy that just blows my mind, he came in and said, "hey, let me get an application" while talking on his phone, had blue jeans, tank top and flip flops on. He was extremely rude, so when i told him no, he had the nerve asking me why? I just don't understand what people think now a days.


Quiznos FTW. Do you have any free sub coupons? I seriously eat at the one on thornton rd EVERYTHING (Im serious) and one day it was $8.02 and i had a $20 and they gave me $11.92 back. That pisses me off. I mean I come there everyday and you cant spot me .02? haha sorry for my rant.

[stillaneon]

Quiznos FTW. Do you have any free sub coupons? I seriously eat at the one on thornton rd EVERYTHING (Im serious) and one day it was $8.02 and i had a $20 and they gave me $11.92 back. That pisses me off. I mean I come there everyday and you cant spot me .02? haha sorry for my rant.

sounds like they shorted you .06 anyway

[SL33P3R]

Whoops, haha. typo. I meant $11.98. fuck

[Julio]

Its a catch 22 .. I agree with what some of you are saying.. But don't let appearance full you...

Because you are dressed up all nice, you think that means you work ? That can be a cover up and just because you come in wearing jeans and maybe looking a little rough doesnt mean you suck at life...

Is a 50/50 deal.. Once you done alot of hiring or worked with a H&R department before, you will understand what Im saying.....

Peace.

["B"]

lol


The last time I went for a "job interview" was at an IA meet at Sidelines in Marietta.



bwahahaha

[BanginJimmy]

Its a catch 22 .. I agree with what some of you are saying.. But don't let appearance full you...

Because you are dressed up all nice, you think that means you work ? That can be a cover up and just because you come in wearing jeans and maybe looking a little rough doesnt mean you suck at life...

Is a 50/50 deal.. Once you done alot of hiring or worked with a H&R department before, you will understand what Im saying.....

Peace.


but you still want to make that good first impression. If you come in unshaven, no recent haircut, and dirty then the impression you are giving is that you are going to come ino work looking like that too.

[b.a.d. s2000]

Where is your store?

Hwy 120 and lawrenceville swuanee road.. in the same shopping center as hooters.

[_Christian_]

I'm glad so many people are clueless, it puts me even farther ahead.

[Arm&hammer]

I'm glad so many people are clueless, it puts me even farther ahead.

x2 lol.
even though i wont be looking for a job in a long time.

[stillaneon]

Its a catch 22 .. I agree with what some of you are saying.. But don't let appearance full you...

Because you are dressed up all nice, you think that means you work ? That can be a cover up and just because you come in wearing jeans and maybe looking a little rough doesnt mean you suck at life...

Is a 50/50 deal.. Once you done alot of hiring or worked with a H&R department before, you will understand what Im saying.....

Peace.

Umm my point was, why, if you really need a job, would you come in looking like you are going to hang out at a friends house. I will be more apt to hire someone that comes in dressed well, than someone who isn't. Common sense.

Of course I try not to let people FOOL me either;)

[Jason..]

Umm my point was, why, if you really need a job, would you come in looking like you are going to hang out at a friends house. I will be more apt to hire someone that comes in dressed well, than someone who isn't. Common sense.

Of course I try not to let people FOOL me either;)Yuo should see the people that come in here lol.

[stillaneon]

LOL

Just had another guy come in with Shorts, an Abercrombie T-shirt, and Flip Flops asking if I was accepting applications.

When I told him I would take a resume, he asked me what that was.

[AirMax95]

LMAO.....classic!

[stillaneon]

Just dont understand how you could not know what a Resume is.

[Sammich]

my personal update...

even w/ my current job situation...even going to see someone i know that works at a place that has a possibility of getting me a job i wear khakis, polo/button up, or if i wear jeans, they are clean and not wrinkled. i look professional when i walk in and hand in resumes and applications (or check on applications). if you want/need a job, you have to dress appropriately to each job. i mean hell if you have one place you need to go that requires dress up, go to all of the places you are checking out that day dressed up, they will respect you and know you mean business. dont go in looking like a retard.

[C-loS109]

LOL

Just had another guy come in with Shorts, an Abercrombie T-shirt, and Flip Flops asking if I was accepting applications.

When I told him I would take a resume, he asked me what that was.

bwahaha did he not go to school or what??? lol

everything u guys are saying is so true. i went to get a job at frontera, to get the application i went in with a polo, dress pants and some nice shoes. as i walk into the frontera i go to the front cashier and the manager was talking to a guy that had just asked for an application, guy was looking bad. i mean he had a beard of atleast a week. hoodie, and swimming trunks or atleast they looked like they wear cause they were all colorful and shit and flip flops. manager said they werent hiring. im glad i still asked for an application anyways because he gave me one, even though i hadnt fill it out he had already asked me when i could come in for an interview.

looks matter.

[DJ Maestro]

my personal update...

even w/ my current job situation...even going to see someone i know that works at a place that has a possibility of getting me a job i wear khakis, polo/button up, or if i wear jeans, they are clean and not wrinkled. i look professional when i walk in and hand in resumes and applications (or check on applications). if you want/need a job, you have to dress appropriately to each job. i mean hell if you have one place you need to go that requires dress up, go to all of the places you are checking out that day dressed up, they will respect you and know you mean business. dont go in looking like a retard.

Doesn't always work this way either though. I went in for an interview a couple years ago for a job. Dressed in khakis, nice polo shirt, and nice shoes. When I got to the interview the two guys interviewing me were in tailored suits and ties. They looked at me as if I was a bum off the street. Then the guy I "would" have been working directly for walks in to ask me some questions and he is wearing khakis and a polo shirt. My point is that I learned that day you have to pretty much overdress for the interview, and then get comfortable after you have the job. First impressions are everything because people in authority are shallow. :goodjob:

[stillaneon]

Doesn't always work this way either though. I went in for an interview a couple years ago for a job. Dressed in khakis, nice polo shirt, and nice shoes. When I got to the interview the two guys interviewing me were in tailored suits and ties. They looked at me as if I was a bum off the street. Then the guy I "would" have been working directly for walks in to ask me some questions and he is wearing khakis and a polo shirt. My point is that I learned that day you have to pretty much overdress for the interview, and then get comfortable after you have the job. First impressions are everything because people in authority are shallow. :goodjob:

Overdressing is the key.

I applied at a Survey company, went in with dress slacks and a button down shirt and tie. Boss said, "well, you are the best dressed surveyor I've seen, but I appreciate you dressing for the interview. Most younger applicants don't have the self-respect to do so." Needless to say I got the job.

My current job, I dressed in a suit, my boss interviewed me in jeans and a polo. He told me he was impressed thar I would dress to that extent, but that I didnt have to from that point on.

[aguynamedpat]

I always go in in slacks, dress shoes, and AT LEAST a polo, usually a full button down, and if I feel the need sometimes a tie. First impression goes a long way, I am always saying yes sir/yes ma'am and maintaining eye contact with the interviewer. I do not smoke so I dont have to worry about that, but I always make sure I have on some cologne and fresh breath too.


"hey, let me get an application" while talking on his phone, had blue jeans, tank top and flip flops on. He was extremely rude, so when i told him no, he had the nerve asking me why?

Oh, and correct me if I am wrong here, but isnt it illegal to deny giving someone an application? Because they can say you were discriminating by not giving them an application. That is what I have always been told at my jobs where I personally handed out applications, that you cannot deny giving someone an application due to equal opportunity employment.

[Sammich]

Doesn't always work this way either though. I went in for an interview a couple years ago for a job. Dressed in khakis, nice polo shirt, and nice shoes. When I got to the interview the two guys interviewing me were in tailored suits and ties. They looked at me as if I was a bum off the street. Then the guy I "would" have been working directly for walks in to ask me some questions and he is wearing khakis and a polo shirt. My point is that I learned that day you have to pretty much overdress for the interview, and then get comfortable after you have the job. First impressions are everything because people in authority are shallow. :goodjob:

thats true as well. as far as i can i usually scope out the prospective place i will work/get an application and take a hint from what they wear to what i should wear when i go in and get an application or go in for an interview. for instance i dropped of a resume this week, i saw that the atmosphere is the same way it is here where i still work. khakis and polo/button up, would be more than sufficient for that place as well. it depends on where u go..another example, i went to drop off an application at the adidas outlet, i know they are sports gear oriented so i wore my regular 'street' clothes, just made sure it was all ironed and clean...u have to make sure where you go of what you should wear

[03RCode]

It's all because they can't afford to pay the water bill to shower/wash their clothes.

[stillaneon]

thats true as well. as far as i can i usually scope out the prospective place i will work/get an application and take a hint from what they wear to what i should wear when i go in and get an application or go in for an interview. for instance i dropped of a resume this week, i saw that the atmosphere is the same way it is here where i still work. khakis and polo/button up, would be more than sufficient for that place as well. it depends on where u go..another example, i went to drop off an application at the adidas outlet, i know they are sports gear oriented so i wore my regular 'street' clothes, just made sure it was all ironed and clean...u have to make sure where you go of what you should wear

Even at Adidas, I still would dress up.

That's me, I am though, more comfortable in my slacks and button downs at this point than my "street clothes" for work.

Unless Adidas told me I had to wear jeans and their shoes, I would probably wear slacks every day

[Sammich]

Even at Adidas, I still would dress up.

That's me, I am though, more comfortable in my slacks and button downs at this point than my "street clothes" for work.

Unless Adidas told me I had to wear jeans and their shoes, I would probably wear slacks every day

I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I CAN AGREE. EVEN THOUGH THE DRESS ATMOSPHERE THERE ARE BALL SHORTS, SNEAKERS AND T SHIRT, I STILL WISH I WENT AT LEAST WITH MY KHAKIS AND BUTTON UP/POLO. I KNOW WHEN I GOT THIS JOB I HAVE NOW, I CAME IN JSUT FOR THE INTERNSHIP, I CAME IN WITH A TIE, BUTTON UP, GREY PANTS...STARTED WORK WITH THE SAME STYLE OF DRESS UNTIL I WAS TEASED FOR COMING IN LOOKING LIKE AN EXEC LOL

[stillaneon]

I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I CAN AGREE. EVEN THOUGH THE DRESS ATMOSPHERE THERE ARE BALL SHORTS, SNEAKERS AND T SHIRT, I STILL WISH I WENT AT LEAST WITH MY KHAKIS AND BUTTON UP/POLO. I KNOW WHEN I GOT THIS JOB I HAVE NOW, I CAME IN JSUT FOR THE INTERNSHIP, I CAME IN WITH A TIE, BUTTON UP, GREY PANTS...STARTED WORK WITH THE SAME STYLE OF DRESS UNTIL I WAS TEASED FOR COMING IN LOOKING LIKE AN EXEC LOL

Dress for the Job you want!

[Sammich]

Dress for the Job you want!

GREAT CLIFFS:D

[AirMax95]

Suit...Always, unless I am TOLD otherwise.

[DJ Maestro]

Dress for the Job you want!

You mean I can be a dancer too?!?!?! :eek:

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/chippendale280x390.jpg

[stillaneon]

got another one.

Guy comes in today. Unwraps a burrito from taco bell and sits down at a desk and asks how to apply for a job