Banks and gun permits

["B"]

Is it lawful to carry a concealed weapon into a bank if you also possess a concealed weapons permit?

[Paul]

^ why would even want to carry in a bank to begin w/...? you are asking for trouble.

["B"]

Not if it is legal. If it is legal there is no reason for trouble. I have done it a few times just because I forgot that I was carrying at the time. I am just wondering if it is lawful.

[staysideways]

of course it's lawful if you don't get caught. lol
but i do think that a bank is one of the locations prohibited.
not 100% on that though.

["B"]

of course it's lawful if you don't get caught. lol
but i do think that a bank is one of the locations prohibited.
not 100% on that though.
I am not asking if it is lawful if you don't get caught. I tried to find it on georgiapacking.org but I either overlooked it or it isn't there.

[Ed]

yo B just remember your friends when you suddenly get rich...

i let you drive the evo a few times... remember that...

[Jason..]

Is it lawful to carry a concealed weapon into a bank if you also possess a concealed weapons permit?No

[Killer]

yo B just remember your friends when you suddenly get rich...

i let you drive the evo a few times... remember that...


and also remember you and i are both white... and that this guy that i'm quoting is NOT!!!

hook me up b... i luh you...

["B"]

NoCan you link me to where it says it is unlawful?

Also, did you guys know that the city of Kennesaw requires the head of the household to have a firearm in the house?

["B"]

yo B just remember your friends when you suddenly get rich...

i let you drive the evo a few times... remember that...

I am not trying or wanting to rob a bank. I carry everywhere it is legal for me to do so.

[Ed]

and also remember you and i are both white... and that this guy that i'm quoting is NOT!!!

hook me up b... i luh you...

i hate you


Can you link me to where it says it is unlawful?

Also, did you guys know that the city of Kennesaw requires the head of the household to have a firearm in the house?

yes, thats why kennesaw is the safest city around here...

everyone there has a gun. what criminal is gonna try and do something?

[Ed]

I am not trying or wanting to rob a bank. I carry everywhere it is legal for me to do so.

i was just joking dude

[Dr.G35]

Is it lawful to carry a concealed weapon into a bank if you also possess a concealed weapons permit?
i dont believe it is because it is a govt building

["B"]

A bank is a government building? Is that some sort of Obama joke?

["B"]

yes, thats why kennesaw is the safest city around here...

everyone there has a gun. what criminal is gonna try and do something?
Ed, 2 weeks ago I had someone walk into my apartment at 2am. My wife must have left the door unlocked. Needless to say as soon as they heard me chamber a round I heard the door close. I checked the whole apartment and then went outside, but they were gone. We think it was just some drunk college kid coming home from a party and entering the wrong apartment. Needless to say, I doubt they make the same mistake twice.

[Ed]

Ed, 2 weeks ago I had someone walk into my apartment at 2am. My wife must have left the door unlocked. Needless to say as soon as they heard me chamber a round I heard the door close. I checked the whole apartment and then went outside, but they were gone. We think it was just some drunk college kid coming home from a party and entering the wrong apartment. Needless to say, I doubt they make the same mistake twice.

damn son. glad he was smart enough to walk away and you guys are ok.


ps. thanks for keeping my gf, shelby, safe. :D

[Dr.G35]

A bank is a government building? Is that some sort of Obama joke?
um no.

[Sam C.]

Yes, if have a GA firearms license read the back. It clearly states carrying is not allowed at public gatherings, such as sporting events, churches, political rallies, publicly owned/operated buildings, or establishments at which alchoholic beverages are sold for consumption.

Obviously it must be concealed and you must be licensed and have said license in your possession.

["B"]

um no.So how is a bank a government building?

["B"]

Yes, if have a GA firearms license read the back. It clearly states carrying is not allowed at public gatherings, such as sporting events, churches, political rallies, publicly owned/operated buildings, or establishments at which alchoholic beverages are sold for consumption.

Obviously it must be concealed and you must be licensed and have said license in your possession.
So it is legal?

[Sam C.]

Yes if you have a permit.

["B"]

Thank you, Sam C.

["B"]

I am still curious how a bank is a government building.....

[81911SC]

I would make a call and ask someone personally.

[BanginJimmy]

The banks I go to have signs on the door saying "No Firearms". I would imagine that that is pretty common.

[SiRed94]

A bank is not publicly funded or a government building. Yes, you can carry it in them, but honestly there are just some places you need to leave it in the car. A bank being one of them.

[Total_Blender]

A bank is not publicly funded or a government building. Yes, you can carry it in them, but honestly there are just some places you need to leave it in the car. A bank being one of them.

I think any privately owned building should be able to prohibit people from entering with firearms if they want. If I were running a business like a restaraunt, a bar, or a bank... I wouldn't want people shooting up my place. :rolleyes:

["B"]

I think any privately owned building should be able to prohibit people from entering with firearms if they want. If I were running a business like a restaraunt, a bar, or a bank... I wouldn't want people shooting up my place. :rolleyes:


According to state law, all the owner of the busines can do is ask you to leave. You can not get arrested unless you refuse to leave.

[JConner]

... I wouldn't want people shooting up my place. :rolleyes:


WOW, do you not realize that people with a CCW are law abiding citizens? I would welcome people with a CCW to carry in my place. Just wait till the day the psycho walks in with a gun "shooting up your place" and no one has a weapon to defend themselves because u wouldnt allow people with a permit to carry in your place of business.

[Atlblkz06]

Ed, 2 weeks ago I had someone walk into my apartment at 2am. My wife must have left the door unlocked. Needless to say as soon as they heard me chamber a round I heard the door close. I checked the whole apartment and then went outside, but they were gone. We think it was just some drunk college kid coming home from a party and entering the wrong apartment. Needless to say, I doubt they make the same mistake twice.

It would have been unfortunate if he ends up dead. Guns are a double edged sword especially if people are reckless with them - and most people are way too trigger happy.
I'm not against guns (I want one), but it sucks when you can get killed for making an honest mistake. I don't know where to draw the line with guns.

[Atlblkz06]

I am still curious how a bank is a government building.....

Don't worry about that, it's not. Its a freakin business.

[FlipKing]

Yeah, what if that bank gets robbed while you are inside? Shoot that mofo.lol As soon as I hit 21(if Obama doesnt fuck it over by then) I'm buying a .40 cal and getting my permit.

[Jaimecbr900]

Wow, some of you guys need some serious help.

#1. A bank is NOT a "gov't" anything, so that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

#2. Most banks that I've walked into have clearly posted signs at the door that say they don't want you in there with any weapons. BTW, so does Wal-Mart. True, technically the worst that can happen is they ask you to leave, but why take a chance? If you're running in for a sec and don't look like some thug, then that may be one thing. If you'll be in there for a long time and make people feel uncomfortable, you're running a chance IMO. 50/50 chance.

#3. Any private business can ask you not to patron there for any reason just about. It is a misconception that you have to have all these warnings or considerations. If they tell you to go, you gotta otherwise you're trespassing. Very black and white in the law.

With all that said, if you don't act like a fool then 99% of the time you'll go unnoticed and unbothered. Act like a grown human and you'll stay away from trouble. Half of you that have met me face-to-face never even realized that I had atleast one weapon on me 99.9% of the time. ;)

The element of surprise is a powerful ally. Remember that. The element of using your noodle is an even more powerful one. Remember that too.

:2cents:

[81911SC]

I've never seen a wal mart with a posted sign. I've looked when I carry in there too.

[Jaimecbr900]

I've never seen a wal mart with a posted sign. I've looked when I carry in there too.

Look for them at the entrance doors. I've seen them before. Maybe they've changed now, hopefully, but I've seen it. I still carry in there, but that's just me.

[ShooterMcGavin]

it's fine. trust me.

[ShooterMcGavin]

but if you open carry then you're just an idiot.

[81911SC]

I've only seen the sign posted at Taco mac in kennesaw and my local abc stores.

[81911SC]

but if you open carry then you're just an idiot.And drawing way too much attention to yourself. :no:

[BanginJimmy]

I've never seen a sign at walmart either and I carry in there all the time

[Total_Blender]

According to state law, all the owner of the busines can do is ask you to leave. You can not get arrested unless you refuse to leave.

You are right that they have to ask you to leave. But if I own a business, and I ask you to leave and you refuse, then I call the cops and tell them theres someone tresspassing in my building with a gun who refuses to leave. They will send the swat team to get you out if necessary. :lmfao:

And if you are in a bank thats getting robbed, its not your responsibility to do anything about it. Nowhere in the "terms of service" agreement for a checking account does it say that you are obligated to engage robbers.

Furthermore, businesses have insurance and shit to cover robberies. In the event that someone gets hit by a stray bullet, a ricochet, or something its just more trouble than its worth. Losing 10k in a robbery is better than losing 100k or more in a lawsuit from an innocent bystander who got hit by a vigilante on accident. Most places where I have worked have a policy of compliance. Just give the robbers the money in the till and let the cops handle it. They don't expect anyone to be heroes.

[81911SC]

I think any privately owned building should be able to prohibit people from entering with firearms if they want. If I were running a business like a restaraunt, a bar, or a bank... I wouldn't want people shooting up my place. :rolleyes:I hope you don't always post without knowing wtf you're talking about.

[81911SC]

There

[Total_Blender]

I hope you don't always post without knowing wtf you're talking about.

Easy now, Tinkerbell. If you can't even cash a check without packing heat then you have problems of your own to worry about. :lmfao:

["B"]

It would have been unfortunate if he ends up dead. Guns are a double edged sword especially if people are reckless with them - and most people are way too trigger happy.
I'm not against guns (I want one), but it sucks when you can get killed for making an honest mistake. I don't know where to draw the line with guns.

I wouldn't have ran out of the bedroom shooting, but my daughter's bedroom door is the closest thing to the front door so I would be VERY protective over that direction. He would have had 1-3 seconds to decide whether he lives or dies though.

["B"]

Wow, some of you guys need some serious help.

#1. A bank is NOT a "gov't" anything, so that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

#2. Most banks that I've walked into have clearly posted signs at the door that say they don't want you in there with any weapons. BTW, so does Wal-Mart. True, technically the worst that can happen is they ask you to leave, but why take a chance? If you're running in for a sec and don't look like some thug, then that may be one thing. If you'll be in there for a long time and make people feel uncomfortable, you're running a chance IMO. 50/50 chance.

#3. Any private business can ask you not to patron there for any reason just about. It is a misconception that you have to have all these warnings or considerations. If they tell you to go, you gotta otherwise you're trespassing. Very black and white in the law.

With all that said, if you don't act like a fool then 99% of the time you'll go unnoticed and unbothered. Act like a grown human and you'll stay away from trouble. Half of you that have met me face-to-face never even realized that I had atleast one weapon on me 99.9% of the time. ;)

The element of surprise is a powerful ally. Remember that. The element of using your noodle is an even more powerful one. Remember that too.

:2cents:


That would be why it is concealed and not out in the open. Anyone who carries in the open is not too bright IMO and is looking for trouble. The bank wouldn't even know I had one.


The only time I carry out in the open is from my vehicle to my house and that is only because it would be a waiste of time to conceal it just to take it back out again once inside.

Also, just because a place has a sign that says "firearms not permitted" or whatever doesn't mean you can't enter with a concealed weapon. You just have to leave if asked. I can't even count the number of times I have been in Walmart with a concealed weapon.

["B"]

Furthermore, businesses have insurance and shit to cover robberies. In the event that someone gets hit by a stray bullet, a ricochet, or something its just more trouble than its worth. Losing 10k in a robbery is better than losing 100k or more in a lawsuit from an innocent bystander who got hit by a vigilante on accident. Most places where I have worked have a policy of compliance. Just give the robbers the money in the till and let the cops handle it. They don't expect anyone to be heroes.

I could care less about the bank and I don't usually carry to protect myself unless I am on a business trip or going to a bad part of town. I carry to protect my family and I assure you that if I feel my families lives are in danger someone is getting shot.

I would rather be judged by tweleve than have my 2 year old daughter carried by six. But that's just me.

["B"]

Easy now, Tinkerbell. If you can't even cash a check without packing heat then you have problems of your own to worry about. :lmfao:


Yeah, that's what the kids at VT thought; "I am just attending class, what could happen?"


People who carry aren't expecting trouble or even looking for it. Some carry for the "just in case" factor and others carry just because it is their Consitutional right to do so.

[Total_Blender]

If more people with guns on the streets is supposed to reduce violence, then why have 48 people been killed in mass shootings in March alone? And not one of those shooters was stopped by a vigilante bystander, despite the fact that gun ownership/concealed carry is at an all time high.

[81911SC]

If more people with guns on the streets is supposed to reduce violence, then why have 48 people been killed in mass shootings in March alone? And not one of those shooters was stopped by a vigilante bystander, despite the fact that gun ownership/concealed carry is at an all time high.But it takes time for CC's to pass. I don't have time to explain common sense right now but I'll find some time tonight.

[Total_Blender]

But it takes time for CC's to pass. I don't have time to explain common sense right now but I'll find some time tonight.

Not more than a week or two from the time you hand in the paperwork if I'm not mistaken. If you were to draw a graph of gun ownership, it would be pretty much a vertical line since November when Obama was elected.

So if you have more guns legally on the streets in the hands of law abiding citizens, why are these mass shooting even happening? Where are the vigilante bystanders when it comes time to take these mass shooters out?

I don't think any of these shooters bought their weapons with the intentions of killing themselves and their families. They probably bought them for the same reasons everyone else buys guns... protection.

[BanginJimmy]

I don't think any of these shooters bought their weapons with the intentions of killing themselves and their families. They probably bought them for the same reasons everyone else buys guns... protection.

I have mine for my personal protection, not to become a part of the law. I am not a cop, nor do I want to be, so I will leave them to do their job. That obviously changes if I have any reason to believe my life, or the lives of my family are in danger.

["B"]

Not more than a week or two from the time you hand in the paperwork if I'm not mistaken. If you were to draw a graph of gun ownership, it would be pretty much a vertical line since November when Obama was elected.

So if you have more guns legally on the streets in the hands of law abiding citizens, why are these mass shooting even happening? Where are the vigilante bystanders when it comes time to take these mass shooters out?

I don't think any of these shooters bought their weapons with the intentions of killing themselves and their families. They probably bought them for the same reasons everyone else buys guns... protection.



So because a SMALL percentage of the population goes postal no one should be able to carry a gun?

I hate libral idiots.

[TheGodfather]

Shouldn't you know this if you have a permit?

Fucking idiot. You are the reason gun owners face scrutiny.

["B"]

Shouldn't you know this if you have a permit?

Fucking idiot. You are the reason gun owners face scrutiny.

Look here you little cock tease, I tried to find it in the statues but could not. I know a lot of people on IA carry, so I decided to ask the community. Just because you gave yourself the name Godfather doesn't mean you are untouchable, faggot.

[Total_Blender]

I hate libral idiots.

And I hate people who can't spell. If you're trying to insult someone, at least use spell check. :D

You have a lot of anger B, I don't want to be around when you nut up and start shooting people in the bank. Just make sure you get it right when you shoot yourself. :lmfao:

["B"]

And I hate people who can't spell. If you're trying to insult someone, at least use spell check. :D

You have a lot of anger B, I don't want to be around when you nut up and start shooting people in the bank. Just make sure you get it right when you shoot yourself. :lmfao:

I don't have anger issues. I just hate the fact that LibErals are destroying this country 1 day at a time.

[Total_Blender]

I don't have anger issues. I just hate the fact that LibErals are destroying this country 1 day at a time.

Get used to it because you have 4 more years of it ahead. Woot Woot!!

["B"]

Get used to it because you have 4 more years of it ahead. Woot Woot!!

And you are proud that people who think like you are destroying this country from within?





:no:

[SL33P3R]

I think its funny the blackies think obmama is gonna pay their house payment... HAHAHAHAH

BYE!

[Jaimecbr900]

I've never seen a wal mart with a posted sign. I've looked when I carry in there too.

Guys, I'm old, but not senile.....YET.

I knew I'd seen them, and I'm not alone. Here you go, a quick google search netted this:


Wal-Mart's Policy About Concealed Weapons on Their Premises


For those of you who have encountered "NO CONCEAL CARRY" signs on your local Wal-Mart front doors. The reason why the signs are up is because they are in the computer. When a store manager orders new signs, if that manager is anti-gun, he can order those signs and put them up. The Wal-Mart corporate policy goes against these managers. You can call up Wal-Mart and tell them that said manager is going against the corporate policy and the signs will be taken down. I know because this has happened a couple of times here in South Carolina and it has been pursued and the signs have been removed.


wal mart corp hq 800-925-6278 - legal dept 479-273-4505 legal department


Walmart stores
702 south wewt 8th St
Bentonville Arkansas
72716-0215


Below is the letter I received from corporate HQ to confirm what I am referring to:





Subject: RE: Firearms

Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-Mart was founded by Sam Walton on three basic principles. Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.

The following is our policy......If a Wal-Mart customer has been awarded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property, With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-Mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than law enforcement personnel wearing or carrying a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.

We appreciate your concern and trust that this message has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.

Thank you,

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

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How many times have I told yall young grasshoppers to NOT question me????? :ninja::lmfao:JP.





I knew I'd seen it several times, but as I said, I still carried anyway. ;)

["B"]

But their policy is to allow it. So what is the problem? I already stated that ANY business can ask you to leave if they see your concealed weapon.

[_Christian_]

But their policy is to allow it. So what is the problem? I already stated that ANY business can ask you to leave if they see your concealed weapon.
They respect your right to carry, but they don't want their liberal customers to wet their panties. So concealed carry=no problem, same with the bank.

[Jaimecbr900]

You are right that they have to ask you to leave. But if I own a business, and I ask you to leave and you refuse, then I call the cops and tell them theres someone tresspassing in my building with a gun who refuses to leave. They will send the swat team to get you out if necessary. :lmfao:

They won't if the person doesn't act like an idiot. It happened to me at Malibu Grand Prix when some little teenage kid who was soooo proud of his Asst. Mgr. badge called Gwinnett Co. when mine happened to peek out the bottom of my shirt while I played a video game. He tried to act all billy bad ass when the Police showed up, and the officer told him to quit over reacting. They simply told me that mgmt didn't want me there, so I left. No big deal to me.....I was out of tokens anyway....:lmfao:;)


And if you are in a bank thats getting robbed, its not your responsibility to do anything about it. Nowhere in the "terms of service" agreement for a checking account does it say that you are obligated to engage robbers.

You're right it's not your job, but then again I guess that's why this world is going down the drain as fast as it is. People who think just like you that turn a blind eye and coward in the corner instead of standing up and doing the right thing. Oh well, to each their own.

Question: If YOUR mother or sister needed someone to come to their rescue in a situation, would YOU want someone like YOU who needs a "terms of service" permission slip to act, or someone like those of us who don't need any piece of paper to do the right thing????? ;) Think about that and get back to me.


They don't expect anyone to be heroes.

Maybe if there were more people who acted like "heroes", this world would be much easier for everyone to live in. :thinking:


If more people with guns on the streets is supposed to reduce violence, then why have 48 people been killed in mass shootings in March alone? And not one of those shooters was stopped by a vigilante bystander, despite the fact that gun ownership/concealed carry is at an all time high.

Ok, I'll bite.

Name the shootings. All of them. Name when, where, and how it happened. You googled the number of dead in March, now finish the equation. Don't just take bits and pieces that agree with your anti-gun view. Report the WHOLE story.

Here, I'll do it for you:

April 4, 2009, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania: 23 year-old Richard Poplawsk opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police official said.

April 4, 2009: Binghamton, N.Y: Jiverly Voong aka Jiverly Wong?13 people in a shooting rampage inside a New York State immigration services centre

March 29, 2009: Robert Stewart, 45, shot and killed eight people at Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, North Carolina, before a police officer shot him and ended the rampage.

March 29, 2009: Indian techie Devan Kalathat, 42, shot and killed his two children and three other relatives, then killed himself in an upscale neighbourhood of Santa Clara, California. Kalathat’s wife was critically injured.

March 21, 2009: Lovelle Mixon, 26, shot and killed four Oakland, California, police officers after a traffic stop. Mixon was killed in a shootout with SWAT officers.

March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people - including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff’s deputy - across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.


_____________________________________________

I highlighted the information YOU failed to take into consideration. Things like WHERE, WHO, and WHY explain very clearly, atleast to me, WHY no "vigilante with a gun" didn't fix the situation.

Now, I'm going to turn the tables on you with FACTS. As directly quoted from an extensive study conducted by a professor with a PHD in Criminology from FSU:

"The new survey, conducted by random sampling of 4,978 households in all the states except Alaska and Hawaii, yield results indicating that American civilians use their firearms as often as 2.5 million times every year defending against a confrontation with a criminal, and that handguns alone account for up to 1.9 million defenses per year. Previous surveys, in Kleck's analysis, had underrepresented the extent of private firearms defenses because the questions asked failed to account for the possibility that a particular respondent might have had to use his or her firearm more than once."

"Readers may be interested to know that Kleck is a member of the ACLU, Amnesty International USA, and Common Cause, among other politically liberal organizations. He is also a lifelong registered Democrat. He is not and has never been a member of or contributor to the NRA, Handgun Control Inc., or any other advocacy group on either side of the gun-control issue, nor has he received funding for research from any such organization."

_____________________________________________

The following came directly from his interview with a journalist about his book which details, in FINE DETAIL, all the data he collected during his study which was written to be released to the American Society of Criminology:

"SCHULMAN: Let's break down some of these gun defenses if we can. How many are against armed robbers? How many are against burglars? How many are against people committing a rape or an assault?

KLECK: About 8 percent of the defensive uses involved a sexual crime such as an attempted sexual assault. About 29 percent involved some sort of assault other than sexual assault. Thirty-three percent involved a burglary or some other theft at home. Twenty-two percent involved robbery. Sixteen percent involved trespassing. Note that some incidents could involve more than one crime.

SCHULMAN: Do you have a breakdown of how many occurred on somebody's property and how many occurred, let's say, off somebody's property where somebody would have had to have been carrying a gun with them on their person or in their car?

KLECK: Yes. We asked where the incident took place. Seventy-two percent took place in or near the home, where the gun wouldn't have to be "carried" in a legal sense. And then some of the remainder, maybe another 4 percent, occurred in a friend's home where that might not necessarily involve carrying. Also, some of these incidents may have occurred in a vehicle in a parking lot and that's another 4 percent or so. So some of those incidents may have involved a less-regulated kind of carrying. In many states, for example, it doesn't require a license to carry a gun in your vehicle so I'd say that the share that involved carrying in a legal sense is probably less than a quarter of the incidents. I won't commit myself to anything more than that because we don't have the specifics of whether or not some of these away-from-home incidents occurred while a person was in a car.

SCHULMAN: All right. Well, does that mean that approximately a half million times a year somebody carrying a gun away from home uses it to defend himself or herself?

KLECK: That's what it would imply, yes."
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Any questions? Let me know. :goodjob::rolleyes:

People need to be more self-informed rather than eat up what the 6'oclock news feeds you. It sells newspapers and TV shows to sensationalize "mass shootings" with "automatic weapons", but when was the last time you heard a news article about Joe Smith the civilian saving someone's life because he wasn't too SCARED to do the right thing and step in to someone's aid?????? :goodjob:;):rolleyes:

[Jaimecbr900]

But their policy is to allow it. So what is the problem? I already stated that ANY business can ask you to leave if they see your concealed weapon.

I don't know why you're trying to argue with me. I'm actually on your side. But you also have to respect a private business or prohibited place to also have their own policies too. It's not that big a deal really. My personal choice is that I carry EVERYWHERE that I KNOW I'm not going to get into trouble for carrying. It's a judgement call in some places, just as it's clear cut in others. Use your best judgement and you usually don't have any issues. Act a fool and you'll likely not fair the same.

:2cents:

["B"]

For the record, I only counted 27 POSTED deaths in March.





JaimeCBR- agreed

[81911SC]

Jamie is the damn man.
I didn't disagree, just stating I've never seen them.
Thanks for the info though, I've heard multiple things about wal mart in the past and am glad to have some solid info.
Thanks again.

[BanginJimmy]

a couple of those half million


Jan 9, 2009 Orlando FL
http://www.wesh.com/news/18451432/detail.html

March 25, 2009 Miami, FL
http://krmg.com/blogs/the_krmg_morning_news_blog/2009/03/diner-with-concealed-handgun-s.html

April 1, 2009 Orlando FL
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-loc-pharmacy-robber-killed-040109,0,550904.story

Thats just 1 page of a google search with the search "man kills armed robber", and I also only mentioned crimes in this country and this year.

["B"]

^^^That is good stuff right there.

[Total_Blender]

I didn't say it doesn't happen, I just said that its rare when it does.

[incawarrior]

good information itt.

[Jaimecbr900]

I didn't say it doesn't happen, I just said that its rare when it does.

Probably due to 2 main reasons:

#1. The media doesn't report it.
#2. Some situations don't "allow" us to be in the position to take action, i.e. they happen in places where we're NOT "allowed" to carry in the first place.

Trust me, it's happened to me on more than one occassion and noone ever knew about it. Maybe the guy(s) that had to change their underwear afterwards, but it didn't make the 6 o'clock news, BUT it did happen.

Remember, we don't hear about "street racing" until someone gets killed and it sells newspapers. Does that mean that's the only time it happens? We all know the answer to that. ;)