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preferredduck
04-03-2009, 05:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeY4zHCA1d8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Einfowars%2Ecom%2Fanderson% 2Dcooper%2Dnotes%2Dgordon%2Dbrown%2Dobamas%2Dg20%2 Dnew%2Dworld%2Dorder%2F&feature=player_embedded

it doesn't exist, i thought i was crazy or something. comments, suggestion, etc.

NAMNORI
04-03-2009, 05:31 PM
oooooooops, did we just step into a big pile of doo? I think so look people besides wrestling fans already knew the NWO was coming (ha ha sorry couldn't help it). Get ready for the bumpy ride to come.

SL65AMG
04-03-2009, 10:40 PM
where and when does this bullshit stop??

NAMNORI
04-04-2009, 12:34 AM
never there will always be bullshit and the people who try to hide the truth from the public.

Total_Blender
04-05-2009, 10:00 AM
where and when does this bullshit stop??

When you guys stop posting Alex Jones content. :lmfao:

blacknightteg
04-05-2009, 10:26 AM
lol wtf. i didnt learn shit about a "new world order" except for when anderson cooper said it like 3 times. lol. all they were talking about was financial regulation. that doesnt mean a new world order.

SL65AMG
04-05-2009, 12:50 PM
lol wtf. i didnt learn shit about a "new world order" except for when anderson cooper said it like 3 times. lol. all they were talking about was financial regulation. that doesnt mean a new world order.

look a little deeper. its has been in the works since Bush Sr. AT LEAST!!

you think because you havent heard about it, its not true?


and thats why you shouldnt limit your "news" sources to biased Natl. news companies( CNN, FOX, NY Times, etc....)

plugsnet
04-05-2009, 01:34 PM
He is correct. A NWO are coming into play as we live. Watch how the north american amero will come to play. Anyone who bypasses this info is just too stubborn to believe that their government is selling them out and the Federal Reserver is gonna leave us with bills that we cannot afford as a country.

plugsnet
04-05-2009, 01:38 PM
Everytime there is something new that isnt common knowledge will be shot down by general public(the idiots) and blasphemied until the truth is shown. LOL deny it all you want.

But none of this mean stop living and go hide for cover. Just knowledge and awareness will allow one to handle the change better.

BanginJimmy
04-05-2009, 03:35 PM
and thats why you shouldnt limit your "news" sources to biased Natl. news companies( CNN, FOX, NY Times, etc....)

Yea, you should get your news from the tabloids and from conspiracy theory websites.

SL65AMG
04-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Yea, you should get your news from the tabloids and from conspiracy theory websites.

exactly.

also MTv News, and the National Inquirer are great sources also

preferredduck
04-05-2009, 06:27 PM
When you guys stop posting Alex Jones content. :lmfao:

dude watch lou dobbs tonight, ac360 or any major media outlet last week after the g20 and the term was mentioned 10 times in the first 5 minutes.

preferredduck
04-05-2009, 06:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Z1eKFme6c

bush sr, look at the date when addressing congress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tasAu_gkmDQ&feature=related

lou dobbs in early march

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfhqY8WG56E

lou dobbs again after g20 4/2/09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0

gordon brown speech

i'll keep finding more examples, i know bush jr said it a few times after 9/11, so this is straight from these folks mouths, not alex jone's radio show.

Elbow
04-06-2009, 08:46 AM
LMFAO OMG....

You all seriously make me lol. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE NEW ORDER IN THE WORLD, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR MADE UP YOUTUBE CONSPIRACY GUYS NWO. Any time anyone important says a word, you all FLIP...or sorry...just watch the videos of those who do and jump on the pussy bandwagon.

Elbow
04-06-2009, 08:48 AM
Yea, you should get your news from the tabloids and from conspiracy theory websites.

:lmfao:

Total_Blender
04-06-2009, 08:57 AM
Yea, you should get your news from the tabloids and from conspiracy theory websites.

And lets not forget youtube videos and myspace blogs. Because nothing says "journalistic credibility" like posting your content on the same site as 2girls1cup. :lmfao:

YoTa_BoX
04-06-2009, 10:26 AM
Iv said it once...ill say it again...

Some of you guys need to start an IA Cult...put you snuggies and purple sneakers on and wait for the god damn comet to come by...

And remember.... Drink the fruit punch, don't mind the funny taste it will all be better soon.


Better yet...dont wait at all... DRINK THE FRUIT PUNCH!!!!!

BanginJimmy
04-06-2009, 12:51 PM
It wasnt Fruit Punch, it was purple Kool-Aid and it was really yummy in my tummy.

F8d2Blk
04-06-2009, 01:35 PM
There is always a possibility for something. Just keep your guns close by and keep your family even closer. But honestly all these things happening, I think are being controlled. Controlled by the government and controlled by the Fed's. It's the cause and effect theory. To say that the government didn't know there was going to be a housing meltdown, to say the government didn't know 9/11 wasn't going to happen, to say the government didn't know about the bonuses at AIG, to say the government didn't know about stuff is a bunch of bull. They knew and they have an agenda, lets just wait and see what happens. You will get your proof one day. ;)

F8d2Blk
04-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Oh and BTW, everyone ask themselves this question,
does the government really care about the people? I know they don't.
They are really showing there asses right now.

NAMNORI
04-06-2009, 01:44 PM
Even if they get thier proof they are going to deny that we knew it ahead of time. Non believers will continue to keep thier head in the sand and you better belive if martial law comes into play they won't say a word to defend themselves, because they will be too busy shitting themselves. I love my life i love my freedom but i will die to protect the frredom and lives of others, no i'm not loony i'm a fucking proud american who knows the cost of freedom first hand. Freedom is not free it costs more than anything else on earth and is the one thing worth your life. All gave some, some GAVE ALL!

Total_Blender
04-06-2009, 02:23 PM
I have yet to see any of this "proof" presented in a manner that does not involve Alex Jones, or some Alex Jones owned media outlet.

F8d2Blk
04-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I have yet to see any of this "proof" presented in a manner that does not involve Alex Jones, or some Alex Jones owned media outlet.

Just watch Glenn Beck or Hannity's America. Its all over Fox News.
Try the www.drudgereport.com
www.politico.com

PSINXS
04-06-2009, 03:26 PM
dead horse.

you either get it or you dont. why waste time convincing ppl. just let it happen.

Elbow
04-06-2009, 03:30 PM
LMFAO, keep talking people, you all are making my day.

LOLOL @ mentioning Martial Law. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Freedom isn't free...what comes to mind...America...FUCK YEAH...so lick my ass and suck on my balls.

Total_Blender
04-06-2009, 03:44 PM
Just watch Glenn Beck or Hannity's America. Its all over Fox News.


Glenn Beck... you mean this limp-wristed funnyboy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHuJ6jZmOY&feature=PlayList&p=B95111A28127EE57&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43

Watch him start crying at 3:44

And in this video he starts crying right after his intro at 1:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related

Boo hoo hoo lets all cry with Glenn. :(:(:(:(:rolleyes:

Edit: I see now why he left CNN... I think he got tired of Anderson Cooper beating him up and taking his lunch money. :lmfao:

BanginJimmy
04-06-2009, 04:23 PM
I cant really stand Beck either but he does make some very good points. I dont believe any of this conspiracy theory BS, but there are unrelated things going on that I dont like.

I dont like Obama apologizing to Europeans for Americans being Americans.
I dont like Geithner not being in jail for tax fraud.

NAMNORI
04-06-2009, 04:27 PM
Glenn Beck... you mean this limp-wristed funnyboy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHuJ6jZmOY&feature=PlayList&p=B95111A28127EE57&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43

Watch him start crying at 3:44

And in this video he starts crying right after his intro at 1:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related

Boo hoo hoo lets all cry with Glenn. :(:(:(:(:rolleyes:

Edit: I see now why he left CNN... I think he got tired of Anderson Cooper beating him up and taking his lunch money. :lmfao:

Yeha but AC is also starting to prove that there is some weight behind some of these theories

Total_Blender
04-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I dont like Obama apologizing to Europeans for Americans being Americans.
I dont like Geithner not being in jail for tax fraud.

If we want to maintain our alliances we will have to give a little bit, especially as stretched thin as we are. I just read this morning that the last British forces are pulling out of Iraq. The GWB policy of "unilateralist foreign policy at any cost" isn't going to cut it much longer... its driven us to the poorhouse.

As far as Geithner, he's not the only tax cheat in D.C. he's just the only one who happens to be working for the president. I really hope Boehner and his lackeys don't wast any taxpayer money investigating scandals like Gingrich and Bob Barr did during the Clinton presidency.

YoTa_BoX
04-06-2009, 04:52 PM
Would yall drink the damn fruit punch already.... @_@




and fuck no im not bringing any constructive criticism to this thread...because its like every other psycho babel thread....

theres been corrupt politics sense the beginning of time..with every government in history. As small as corrupt cops all the way up to the president ...but behind every corrupt politician there is a psycho coming up with fucked up conspiracy theories about the world ending....Blowing every thing out of proportion.


So please Drink the Fruit punch and end it all so we could at least have one less retarded Doom sayer on this planet linking fake and half truth bullshit getting every one els worried over fucking nothing.



FUCKING DIE!!!

Total_Blender
04-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Yeha but AC is also starting to prove that there is some weight behind some of these theories

I saw the clip you posted, its an edited portion of AC's report hosted on an Alex Jones site. You are seeing the part that Alex Jones wants you to see. I'd have to see the whole report unedited to comment.

YoTa_BoX
04-06-2009, 05:04 PM
It wasnt Fruit Punch, it was purple Kool-Aid and it was really yummy in my tummy.

Damn it i told that women to not make anything els other that fruit punch...


Remind me to kill her the next tim.....wait nvm shes already dead..


Alright everything is a go with the purple Kool-Aid as well..




* Working as intended *

BanginJimmy
04-06-2009, 05:07 PM
If we want to maintain our alliances we will have to give a little bit, especially as stretched thin as we are. I just read this morning that the last British forces are pulling out of Iraq. The GWB policy of "unilateralist foreign policy at any cost" isn't going to cut it much longer... its driven us to the poorhouse.

But where does it stop? Obama's budget cuts the DoD budget by more than 10%. That is a direct attack on national security. Why would any country that is profiting Billions of dollars a year help us remove a dictator that is giving them the money?


As far as Geithner, he's not the only tax cheat in D.C. he's just the only one who happens to be working for the president. I really hope Boehner and his lackeys don't wast any taxpayer money investigating scandals like Gingrich and Bob Barr did during the Clinton presidency.

Maybe not investigate, but how about kick out the self confessed tax cheats? I simply use Giethner because of his position. He is either too dumb for his position, or he is too corrupt for his position. There is no other possible explanation. Personally I am not against an investigation into anyone suspected of tax fraud from any party. If they do not have the integrity to pay their taxes, then they dont have the integrity to hold their current position.

If I cheated on my taxes, should I expect the same treatment that Giethner got?

preferredduck
04-06-2009, 11:54 PM
LMFAO, keep talking people, you all are making my day.

LOLOL @ mentioning Martial Law. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Freedom isn't free...what comes to mind...America...FUCK YEAH...so lick my ass and suck on my balls.

freedom isn't free, no there's a heavy fuckin fee!!! hey there was a congressman who came out on TV after the "closed door meetings the night before the bailout" and said they were threatened that martial law would be declared if they voted no, and on that subject obama promised he would make congress wait 5 days for the people and congress to read the entire bill. thus far we have spent like 3 trillion and he broke every promise b/c it was intoduced and passed 10 hours later.

F8d2Blk
04-07-2009, 08:43 AM
Here's another website:
www.campaignforliberty.com

Elbow
04-07-2009, 09:47 AM
Conspiracy THEORIES make me LOL, I bet most of you still believe those "FEMA coffins" are for martial law as well right?

SL65AMG
04-07-2009, 10:59 AM
Conspiracy THEORIES make me LOL, I bet most of you still believe those "FEMA coffins" are for martial law as well right?

no, but what are they for?

BanginJimmy
04-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Because it makes sense that FEMA would have coffins. That is like asking why the military would have guns.

F8d2Blk
04-07-2009, 02:03 PM
http://tvshack.net/documentaries/The_Obama_Deception/

Elbow
04-07-2009, 02:29 PM
Because it makes sense that FEMA would have coffins. That is like asking why the military would have guns.

No it HAS TO MEAN that we are all about to die. Why be prepared? :???: :lmfao:

BanginJimmy
04-07-2009, 02:32 PM
No it HAS TO MEAN that we are all about to die. Why be prepared? :???: :lmfao:


You are right. I will start to fortify my house against the World Bank's murder squads that are roaming the streets and net in search of those that threaten their power.

Elbow
04-07-2009, 03:38 PM
LOL

BTW you live in Hiram? Cool, my girlfriend does for a little while longer, I am up there sometimes.

BanginJimmy
04-07-2009, 03:41 PM
Yea I live in this hell hole. If I get this job at lockheed me and the wife are planning to move into the Cartersville area and build a new house.

YoTa_BoX
04-07-2009, 03:50 PM
@_@ I live in Hiram as well.. well...Dallas...but ya same diff


should stop in and check out the shop some time :P

BanginJimmy
04-07-2009, 03:53 PM
what shop is that?

Elbow
04-07-2009, 03:58 PM
Yeah what shop I will be up there tomorrow lol.

Total_Blender
04-07-2009, 04:11 PM
http://tvshack.net/documentaries/The_Obama_Deception/

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/efm8041/menInFilm.jpg

Here we have a movie about Barack Obama and about how him and those big, evil, sweaty, banker mens from the tri-lateral commission and builderberg are trying to install a one world government.
Hated it!!

Seriously though, we have all seen "The Obama Deception" theres no need for you to keep re-linking it. Its just the same Alex Jones crap that gets busted apart in every other thread.

YoTa_BoX
04-07-2009, 04:13 PM
PM'ed both of you.

preferredduck
04-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Conspiracy THEORIES make me LOL, I bet most of you still believe those "FEMA coffins" are for martial law as well right?

they are for you actually!!! there are many reasons they are made, but if they are for coffins, do they go outside the coffin or inside of it cuz i don't see it going in the coffin. i did find some info on mass grave sites and certain things reported there but have not seen anything that strikes me as it's real.

preferredduck
04-07-2009, 06:41 PM
hey make fun of the "bankers" all you want, what's our national debt again, and we owe it to a private bank. hmm i see a problem there. woodrow wilson apologized for selling out his country to the federal reserve. now after the G-20 meetings all countries are borrowing another 1trillion from the IMF/World Bank, who is going to pay that back exactly. The Fed also has a direct link to the housing bubble, deregulation of mortages, control of the interest rates, money flow, etc. actually bernake made a statement recently that pretty much made it clear what happened, i do not remeber exactly but i was a loan officer for several years so i know how housing works. another thing FDR did exactly the same thing that bush/obama are doing for the economy and guess what it did not work. infrastructure projects, capital infusion, gov't spending are all things FDR did and we are following his road map that did not work. what worked was war b/c half the younger population was at was so unemployment went down and war=$$, and this is not "alex jones" material this was actually on the history channel last night and i'll be damned obama is following in FDR's footsteps. there is a movie called money masters that's really good and explains in more detail on how our "credit" system works b/c the way i see it the US is about tapped out and bankrupt. look at GM, too much debt= bankrupcy and our debt is spiraling out of control now. we spent 3 trillion and had less than 10 hours to read the bill and the public never got a chance so we were lied to, and that doesn't sit well with me.

NAMNORI
04-07-2009, 08:26 PM
nothing is being done as promised by the new messiah for america. We are forever screwed with people that can't tell the truth to them selves muchless the general public.

preferredduck
04-07-2009, 08:43 PM
nothing is being done as promised by the new messiah for america. We are forever screwed with people that can't tell the truth to them selves muchless the general public.

i agree with that. the only campaign promise he made that he is sticking to is the civilian army(militia) that he wants. and if you don't believe me go to obama's own website and it's there, it's also running on tv commercials now. coming to a town near you a 19yr old w/a nightstick praising obama.

NAMNORI
04-07-2009, 09:34 PM
he will be wielding more than just a nightstick, that's not a change i want!

SL65AMG
04-07-2009, 10:12 PM
he will be wielding more than just a nightstick, that's not a change i want!
:rly:

why is this "army" even necessary?

Total_Blender
04-07-2009, 10:34 PM
Money masters = more alex jones drivel.

Seriously... I've seen several of his films and I'm unimpressed. The Obama deception, money masters, the one about the freemasons and the templars (I forget what it was called), Zeitghiest (I know thats not his but it falls into the same category).

As far as unemployment going down during WWII, that was all deficit spending (made possible by people buying war bonds). Soldiers do not generally fight wars for free, they have to be trained/equipped/paid just like every other federal employee. I really wish the gov't would issue bonds nowadays instead of just borrowing from China. Why not keep the the intrest paid on bonds here in our economy, instead of filling the pockets of our main economic rival?

http://www.olive-drab.com/gallery/photos/daisymae_warbonds_poster_sm.jpg

BanginJimmy
04-07-2009, 10:43 PM
you can buy govt bonds here in the US, but you are right. There has never been an effort by the govt to sell them domestically.

NAMNORI
04-07-2009, 10:47 PM
Money masters = more alex jones drivel.

Seriously... I've seen several of his films and I'm unimpressed. The Obama deception, money masters, the one about the freemasons and the templars (I forget what it was called), Zeitghiest (I know thats not his but it falls into the same category).

As far as unemployment going down during WWII, that was all deficit spending (made possible by people buying war bonds). Soldiers do not generally fight wars for free, they have to be trained/equipped/paid just like every other federal employee. I really wish the gov't would issue bonds nowadays instead of just borrowing from China. Why not keep the the intrest paid on bonds here in our economy, instead of filling the pockets of our main economic rival?

http://www.olive-drab.com/gallery/photos/daisymae_warbonds_poster_sm.jpg




yes it would be nice if they did offer bonds to help stimulate the economy but if it keeps getting worse those aren't going to be worth the paper they are printed on.

preferredduck
04-08-2009, 02:46 AM
yes it would be nice if they did offer bonds to help stimulate the economy but if it keeps getting worse those aren't going to be worth the paper they are printed on.


ok this one is a long one and some points have baffled me so help me out here and critsize away.
yep i agree on all the points here. in some of the videos i've mentioned some stuff can be backed up though and is public record and some is put in how the creator wants it to be, i have noticed that so i'm not sold on their ideas. it's public record on who wrote the federal reserve act and has been clear on who the interests were for, and it wasn't the people. i liked the gold backed system instead of a credit system b/c as i have said we are pretty much bankrupt esp if the economy isn't stimulated(and some top economic folks say it's a temp stilmulation) then what do we do borrow more money or wind up like zimbabwee going bankrupt. zeitgeist actually had some good info and a lot of the things could be backed up but you would have to do some digging. rockafeller made a fortune financing both sides of the war, and the bush family made it's $ the same way and was more involved embezzling nazi $ and was caught and charged with war crimes and had assets frozen until a friend unfoze them a few years later. rockafeller with standard oil should have been charged with trading with the enemy b/c hitlers planes could not fly without a patented additive. so onto current events i can't say 100% 9/11 was an inside job but something is really fishy about it. and in barbara bush's book she admitted that marvin bush's last day being head of security at WTC was 9/10, so the man is in charge of security and could pretty much cover anything. those buildings, all three of them fell at free fall speed which would be impossible if there was resistance from a "pankake effect". listen to the firefighters tapes recently released and you will here them on the floor the plane hit talking about sending three hoses up to put it out quick. if it was sooo hot to melt the steel structure of the whole building then how could a firefighter be on that floor, and the people coming out of the hole where the plane hit, wouldn't they have cooked? WTC 7 had a lot of information for the FBI, stocks, very vital info, a lot of gov't agencies were based there, and a german company claims to have recovered data from 7 regarding insider trading of the airlines stocks for put out options which made those sgareholder lots of $$ and these were people in high places. Another note is the man who owned the buildings made 2.4 billion on his insurance agreement which was modified 6mos earlier to include being hit by a plane(public record) and a couple of years later he admitted to having WTC 7 pulled and we all know it takes months of planning to pull a bulding properly. Also no plane found at the pentagon, no rolls royce engine found, just 1 part to an engine and it didn't match what a jet has, and less than a week later a crime scene is cleaned up. if they could not FIND THE PLANE THEN HOW COULD THEY ID HUMAN REMAINS FOR THE PASSENGERS, that makes no sense b/c the body is cremated at a lesser TEMP than a Rolls royce motor would melt. there was nothing left of flight 93 at all again bodies were id'd with nothing there and the county coronr even left shortly after arrival b/c there were no remains, and even the plane crash in buffalo you could ID that a plane hit a house and burned for a long time. look at every plane crash in history and you can alwyas tell it was a plane clearly. shortly after the patriot act is passed which took away a lot of our rights(you were declared a terrorist if you were against it), and if you look back in history hitler had a similar law after the reichstag fire(cant spell it) a while before he started his world domination campaign. so everyone pick out the questions here that you may be able to solve b/c some things go against the laws of physics here and it baffles me on what is really going on. who dod it i don't know, but something doesn't sit right with me. it took several years of people prying to get the firefighters tapes released and some info still is not given even though it goes against the freedom of information act, and on that note two places are suing the gov't b/c of that act and the fact that the FED will not give the banks names and amounts of money that were loaned along with the terms and this is taxpayers $$$. i'm done with the book here guys so fire away. i have looked at all sides of the fence on these subjects with an open mind but it just doesn't make sense

Total_Blender
04-08-2009, 06:34 AM
wall of text

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I made some punctuattion and caplitlization for you to add to your wall of text. Maybe consider breaking it up into smaller sections too.

BRB gotta go get some visene and an asprin. :crazy:

SL65AMG
04-08-2009, 11:17 AM
ok this one is a long one and some points have baffled me so help me out here and critsize away.
yep i agree on all the points here. in some of the videos i've mentioned some stuff can be backed up though and is public record and some is put in how the creator wants it to be, i have noticed that so i'm not sold on their ideas. it's public record on who wrote the federal reserve act and has been clear on who the interests were for, and it wasn't the people. i liked the gold backed system instead of a credit system b/c as i have said we are pretty much bankrupt esp if the economy isn't stimulated(and some top economic folks say it's a temp stilmulation) then what do we do borrow more money or wind up like zimbabwee going bankrupt. zeitgeist actually had some good info and a lot of the things could be backed up but you would have to do some digging. rockafeller made a fortune financing both sides of the war, and the bush family made it's $ the same way and was more involved embezzling nazi $ and was caught and charged with war crimes and had assets frozen until a friend unfoze them a few years later. rockafeller with standard oil should have been charged with trading with the enemy b/c hitlers planes could not fly without a patented additive. so onto current events i can't say 100% 9/11 was an inside job but something is really fishy about it. and in barbara bush's book she admitted that marvin bush's last day being head of security at WTC was 9/10, so the man is in charge of security and could pretty much cover anything. those buildings, all three of them fell at free fall speed which would be impossible if there was resistance from a "pankake effect". listen to the firefighters tapes recently released and you will here them on the floor the plane hit talking about sending three hoses up to put it out quick. if it was sooo hot to melt the steel structure of the whole building then how could a firefighter be on that floor, and the people coming out of the hole where the plane hit, wouldn't they have cooked? WTC 7 had a lot of information for the FBI, stocks, very vital info, a lot of gov't agencies were based there, and a german company claims to have recovered data from 7 regarding insider trading of the airlines stocks for put out options which made those sgareholder lots of $$ and these were people in high places. Another note is the man who owned the buildings made 2.4 billion on his insurance agreement which was modified 6mos earlier to include being hit by a plane(public record) and a couple of years later he admitted to having WTC 7 pulled and we all know it takes months of planning to pull a bulding properly. Also no plane found at the pentagon, no rolls royce engine found, just 1 part to an engine and it didn't match what a jet has, and less than a week later a crime scene is cleaned up. if they could not FIND THE PLANE THEN HOW COULD THEY ID HUMAN REMAINS FOR THE PASSENGERS, that makes no sense b/c the body is cremated at a lesser TEMP than a Rolls royce motor would melt. there was nothing left of flight 93 at all again bodies were id'd with nothing there and the county coronr even left shortly after arrival b/c there were no remains, and even the plane crash in buffalo you could ID that a plane hit a house and burned for a long time. look at every plane crash in history and you can alwyas tell it was a plane clearly. shortly after the patriot act is passed which took away a lot of our rights(you were declared a terrorist if you were against it), and if you look back in history hitler had a similar law after the reichstag fire(cant spell it) a while before he started his world domination campaign. so everyone pick out the questions here that you may be able to solve b/c some things go against the laws of physics here and it baffles me on what is really going on. who dod it i don't know, but something doesn't sit right with me. it took several years of people prying to get the firefighters tapes released and some info still is not given even though it goes against the freedom of information act, and on that note two places are suing the gov't b/c of that act and the fact that the FED will not give the banks names and amounts of money that were loaned along with the terms and this is taxpayers $$$. i'm done with the book here guys so fire away. i have looked at all sides of the fence on these subjects with an open mind but it just doesn't make sense


good points here. it does make sense.....


for one, those buildings fell the same way that 99% buildings fall that are blown up to be removed- straight down. If the planes hit the top of the building then why did the bottom of the building collapse first. the structure was designed to handle some serious weight and support itself. the plane probably made it weaker of course but not enough to make the building collapse entirely. why didnt the top portion of the building fall or shear off of the base of the building? why did they fall in a straight line??? it was hit on the top and the top would be the weak point because it was where the fires were located- heat, and it had the brunt of the impact - stress.


9/11 was BS

BanginJimmy
04-08-2009, 11:32 AM
good points here. it does make sense.....


for one, those buildings fell the same way that 99% buildings fall that are blown up to be removed- straight down. If the planes hit the top of the building then why did the bottom of the building collapse first. the structure was designed to handle some serious weight and support itself. the plane probably made it weaker of course but not enough to make the building collapse entirely. why didnt the top portion of the building fall or shear off of the base of the building? why did they fall in a straight line??? it was hit on the top and the top would be the weak point because it was where the fires were located- heat, and it had the brunt of the impact - stress.


9/11 was BS

All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

NAMNORI
04-08-2009, 01:29 PM
All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

Yeah but really come on now the government chose which people were talking to the media and who wasn't. No it's not an Alex Jones vid it's from the history channel, they explained how 9/11 was an inside job not only our country but some leaders of middle eastern countries actually supplied money to the terrorists and when it was brought up in front of the 9/11 commision the excuse for not investigating those payments was "There was no reason to investigate". Now that's just fucked up!

BanginJimmy
04-08-2009, 01:35 PM
Everyone knows that al-Queda has govt sponsorship in the middle east. At the time it was mainly Afghanistan and Iran, now it is mainly Iran. Some things are not advertised to the general public because it could reveal intelligence gathering processes, that doesnt mean it isnt investigated though.

What makes you think the govt can control who the press talks to? You really are an idiot that will believe anything you read on those retarded websites. We have this thing called freedom or speech and freedom of the press. Both of those guarantee that the govt did not stop anyone from talking to the press.

SL65AMG
04-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Everyone knows that al-Queda has govt sponsorship in the middle east. At the time it was mainly Afghanistan and Iran, now it is mainly Iran. Some things are not advertised to the general public because it could reveal intelligence gathering processes, that doesnt mean it isnt investigated though.

What makes you think the govt can control who the press talks to? You really are an idiot that will believe anything you read on those retarded websites. We have this thing called freedom or speech and freedom of the press. Both of those guarantee that the govt did not stop anyone from talking to the press.


we also have something called the patriot act which violates ones right to privacy, among other things.... in the name of safety

we also have the 2nd amendment which gets stepped on constantly and is repeatedly being attacked by politicians.... in the name of safety

we also have posse comitatus which prohibits us forces from being deployed/ used against the citizens on US soil..... that has also been violated numerous times in the past few months..... in the name of safety


the list goes on....


are you noticing a trend here????


im beginning to think this this administration doesnt give a damn about the constitution

BanginJimmy
04-08-2009, 03:21 PM
give me a credible sourse that says US military was used in a law enforcement capacity. That road block in that was supposedly canceled in TN doesnt work as there is no proof that the military was going to be used in a law enforcement capacity. Bama doesnt work, they were not acting in a law enforcement capacity.

SL65AMG
04-08-2009, 04:13 PM
give me a credible sourse that says US military was used in a law enforcement capacity. That road block in that was supposedly canceled in TN doesnt work as there is no proof that the military was going to be used in a law enforcement capacity. Bama doesnt work, they were not acting in a law enforcement capacity.


70000 troops deployed during katrina (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17359) - DOD


Troops to deploy In USA (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/?rss) -Army Times

Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana ( http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9900E2D6173EE033A25750C1A9609C946897D6CF) -New York Times


Troops in Alabama (http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=45206) - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances (http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000567_Posse_Comitatus_police_state_Pentagon. html) - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)



i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...

BanginJimmy
04-08-2009, 04:29 PM
70000 troops deployed during katrina (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17359) - DOD


national guard units in an federal disaster area



Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana ( http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9900E2D6173EE033A25750C1A9609C946897D6CF) -New York Times

National Guard troops doing security at a road race. Not exactly busting down doors and arresting people for drug possession is it?



Troops in Alabama (http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=45206) - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate

not patrolling the streets, directing traffic for 3 hours while sheriffs got something to eat.


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances (http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000567_Posse_Comitatus_police_state_Pentagon. html) - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)[/quote]
hasnt happened yet and if you think that site looks legitimate then I wont bother talking to you anymore.



i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...

I'm not supportive of it, but I am more against conspiracy theories and nut jobs with access to computers.

preferredduck
04-09-2009, 12:50 AM
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I made some punctuattion and caplitlization for you to add to your wall of text. Maybe consider breaking it up into smaller sections too.

BRB gotta go get some visene and an asprin. :crazy:

hahaha sorry man i thought about editing it a bit but went to bed!!! i was ranting too so it would have been an edit afterwards. :blah:

preferredduck
04-09-2009, 01:23 AM
70000 troops deployed during katrina (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17359) - DOD


Troops to deploy In USA (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/?rss) -Army Times

Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana ( http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9900E2D6173EE033A25750C1A9609C946897D6CF) -New York Times


Troops in Alabama (http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=45206) - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances (http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000567_Posse_Comitatus_police_state_Pentagon. html) - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)



i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...


katrina the governor gave permission, along with indiana, that second articlewas disturbing towards the end with the things they are training for. these are also people who have been in wars. in alabama the govorner didn't call them which is proper procedure, the state has to ask for help they don't just show up.

as far as the 20000 troops go i think i actually saw that a while back on the mainstream media and ever since then we have had more "drills" involving these people invading towns near you. All of a sudden we have a need for a massive roit control brigade along with the obama civil army to control the population if there were to be an "attack or disaster". Hmmm seems to me somebody knowa something. you wanna know a new link to the people who control our tax money.

AIG had the money come in the front door and went out the back to "goldmans sachs" a place that every person in that department has a connection to. henry paulson, geithner(and some of his staff), bernake. An older AIG exec spoke up last night and pretty much explained the trail and how to make the system right and pumping out money was not an option.

preferredduck
04-09-2009, 01:29 AM
All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

no it has not. several people spoke up right after 9/11 but a week later their story changed and they had a different attitude. free fall speeds mean absolutely no resistance, and most models i've seen and the actual designers of the building talking about how the steel was structure there would have had to be steel still in the air afterwards. there is a building that burned for 48 hrs of more in i think south america and the steel frame was all that stood. it should have melted and collaped. metal just does not melt and rolls royce engines for planes don't just "melt"either.