Sold the ITR for this...

[Benefit]

had to have it

so far:
carbon 20% tint all around
flat black/gloss the wheels
debadged
blacked out grill surrounds tomorrow
MOAR PICS TOMORROW

[Fr33way]

Don't paint the stock wheels, it looks classy as is. If you want black I think it would look much better with a/m wheels such as BBS etc...

[Benefit]

picking up the extra set of BBS wheels this weekend!

i already did paint them and it looks SICK with the tint...

[BITCHING]

dam a down grade

[Benefit]

dam a down grade

LOL thats all i been hearing...downgrade or upgrade...

[STI101]

nice bro

[jrhatcheh2]

nice.....i say you upgraded imo

[f22 a1]

very nice

[wannab20hatch]

dam a down grade

just another itr fan boy

[dexsohcvtec]

Its ok

[_Christian_]

dam a down grade
:umno:

Painting factory wheels is trashy.

[speedminded]

325 or 328? Wanna boost it? What BBS wheels?

[JITB]

mean i hope u didnt paint the wheels..:(

[K20Z1]

got a ride in it today, sickk!!..


but still slow afterall.

[sogood]

325 or 328? Wanna boost it? What BBS wheels?

IIRC it's a '96 328is, it was owned by a guy on bf.c and it was on craigslist, too. Seemed like a pretty decent car, but it has lots of miles (to me, anyways).

OP, sounds like you're already off to a bad start with the car. Good luck with it, seems as if you'll need it...

[speedminded]

:umno:

Painting factory wheels is trashy.lol!

Trash huh?

http://www.mz3.net/articles/images/245-mcoupe_b.jpg

http://www.mz3.net/articles/images/245-mcoupe_a.jpg


How about my Land Rover? I painted the roof rack and wheels ;) (and the black on the hood to prevent glare)

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n393/speedminded/Land%20Rover/Rover_painted_wheels_rack.jpg

[_Christian_]

lol!

Trash huh?

YUP!!! Wheels look 10x better stock. Car is :boobies:



How about my Land Rover? I painted the roof rack and wheels ;)


I'll give it to you on the Discovery.

I said that as a general rule of thumb. It's like saying "Banging prostitutes is bad," and then someone chimes in "Well I never got HIV from that hooker in Atlantic City."

[OTG Signs]

What is carbon tint?

I usually get metal tint, but have never heard of carbon.

[Kamikaze]

I would have left it tintless. But nice car though.

[Ol' Gregg]

wow i like the car.... but i do like ITR's too.... hard choice

[Brian*]

CLEAN!! I like it*

[4uh8ers]

So you primed the wheels black is what your saying??? Cause that is what everyone does when they say they flat blacked something. They will look horrible in about a week, or after the first time you wash them

I would have gotten a m3 and left it alone.

[FasTech]

I think it looks good, but I think I would rather have the ITR instead.

[Sammich]

nice upgrade bone man

[BobbyFresco]

Downgrade fo sho...You should held out for an M3, at the very least.

[Got Milk?]

nice car, PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE EXTERIOR LOOKS AWESOME.

[EJ25RUN]

gotta admit. Great pick up.

edit....

read your planned mods.......:slap:


Downgrade fo sho...You should held out for a M3, at the very least.



M3 Sellers think they have gold when they're selling so a good shape 325/328 is not a bad buy.

[Dirty Octopus™]

had to have it

so far:
carbon 20% tint all around
flat black/gloss the wheels
debadged
blacked out grill surrounds tomorrow
MOAR PICS TOMORROW
is you fuckin nuts? :thinking:
you SOLD the Honda remember?!! :rant:

[VooDooXII]

Very nice...though I don't think painting the stock wheels would look very good. Silver on a silver car looks nice as it is.

[twinj]

Upgrade def IMO. That type R is definately respectable,but its limited IMO compared to that E36.

OP: Do plan on swapping or any plans for the motor???

Eitherway nice pick up. I also want one!! This just motivated me more to get one.

[speedminded]

Downgrade fo sho...You should held out for an M3, at the very least.Why? For 40 more hp, different bumpers, and thicker molding? Depending what version M3 it may even have the exact same interior lol!

Put M3 cams and valve train in it and you have 220hp engine, halfway the difference to an M3. OBD1 conversion intake manifold and will out even more out. If you're doing suspension upgrades anyways you can get something better than M3's oem setup and still be thousands ahead.

The 328's M52 takes boost far better than the M3's S50/S52 and is reliable up to 25psi with stock internals, just needs a 0.140 Cometic head gasket and v2.0 ARP studs. You can make this car a reliable daily driven 500whp yet it's capable of well over 600 stock.

For insurance purposes I'd rather have a 318/325/328 and put a boosted M52 in it with a complete high end suspension set up. Turn the boost down for 300-350whp and you have a mean road course track day play car...500whp with a GT35 and you have a sub 12 second car, 600whp with a GT40 and it's in the 10's on slicks.

[BobbyFresco]

Why? For 40 more hp, different bumpers, and thicker molding? Depending what version M3 it may even have the exact same interior lol!

Put M3 cams and valve train in it and you have 220hp engine, halfway the difference to an M3. OBD1 conversion intake manifold and will out even more out. If you're doing suspension upgrades anyways you can get something better than M3's oem setup and still be thousands ahead.

The 328's M52 takes boost far better than the M3's S50/S52 and is reliable up to 25psi with stock internals, just needs a 0.140 Cometic head gasket and v2.0 ARP studs. You can make this car a reliable daily driven 500whp yet it's capable of well over 600 stock.

For insurance purposes I'd rather have a 318/325/328 and put a boosted M52 in it with a complete high end suspension set up. Turn the boost down for 300-350whp and you have a mean road course track day play car...500whp with a GT35 and you have a sub 12 second car, 600whp with a GT40 and it's in the 10's on slicks.


Not that I know the OP's intentions but with all due respect, I doubt he is going to sink that much money into this car however, I could be wrong.

Personally, I would start with a good platform and build upon it. When it's all said and done with your hypothetical mod list and the costs associated, the M3 is just a smarter buy, IMO.

[TypeRPersonality]

How about my Land Rover? I painted the roof rack and wheels ;) (and the black on the hood to prevent glare)

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n393/speedminded/Land%20Rover/Rover_painted_wheels_rack.jpg

That seems like a brilliant idea painting the hood!

BMW over an Acura is a definite upgrade. An upgrade I hope to make soon!

[speedminded]

That seems like a brilliant idea painting the hood!

BMW over an Acura is a definite upgrade. An upgrade I hope to make soon!I can't fully take the credit for it though, the rare XD version of the Discovery [off-road rally race version] has the same painted hood. I believe the Disco I XD only came in yellow though. I'm 6'-3"+ and the seats force you to sit upright so the glare is an issue, on the hood and the windshield. When I did it years ago I'm positive I was the only silver Land rover with it but if I did it again I'd use a flat black vinyl instead of paint! Even though I did it properly and even put a thin matching silver pin stripe around the edge to make it seamless.

Link only to not clutter up the thread:
http://www.landroversonly.com/forums/images/xd4.jpg

[matthewAPM]

Nice!

[speedminded]

Not that I know the OP's intentions but with all due respect, I doubt he is going to sink that much money into this car however, I could be wrong.

Personally, I would start with a good platform and build upon it. When it's all said and done with your hypothetical mod list and the costs associated, the M3 is just a smarter buy, IMO.He should have enough left over from the ITR sale to do most if not all of it, I don't know what this car cost though.

You can boost it your self for well under $5k, especially if you get a cast or cheaper header vs. one from 666 Fabrication that will run $1,200-1,400. ODB1 conversion and the stock DME/ECU can be tuned for multiple boost settings...or go standalone. Not a difficult process, just $$$.

[TRDwasiq]

Why? For 40 more hp, different bumpers, and thicker molding? Depending what version M3 it may even have the exact same interior lol!

Put M3 cams and valve train in it and you have 220hp engine, halfway the difference to an M3. OBD1 conversion intake manifold and will out even more out. If you're doing suspension upgrades anyways you can get something better than M3's oem setup and still be thousands ahead.

The 328's M52 takes boost far better than the M3's S50/S52 and is reliable up to 25psi with stock internals, just needs a 0.140 Cometic head gasket and v2.0 ARP studs. You can make this car a reliable daily driven 500whp yet it's capable of well over 600 stock.

For insurance purposes I'd rather have a 318/325/328 and put a boosted M52 in it with a complete high end suspension set up. Turn the boost down for 300-350whp and you have a mean road course track day play car...500whp with a GT35 and you have a sub 12 second car, 600whp with a GT40 and it's in the 10's on slicks.he already has, M3 front & back Bumper..
they who owned it.. he had work to the engine.already. its also tuned with sharp injection..Software

[speedminded]

he already has, M3 front & back Bumper..
they who owned it.. he had work to the engine.already. its also tuned with sharp injection..Softwareha! They are aren't they, didn't really even look at the pic before lol!

[OnURleft]

Nice buy. A set of M3 cams for $300 and a custom OBD2 tune (TRM has it now) will get you near or above 210whp depending what's done to the car.

Oh yeah...
ITR> M3, M5 M6 or in your case I guess a 328is... Right?

[singhondeck]

i loove it..thas gna be my next car after im done with the altima

[FliPPYFloP]

really nice

[RL...]

honda to bmw is always an upgrade

although ITR's are great cars...

[AnthonyF]

To ME....downgrade. I dont find it that appealing.

-Ant.

[Elbow]

^Aww look at the old Panoz banner.

[AirMax95]

The E90 wheels do not look good on that car.

[EJ25RUN]

^Aww look at the old Panoz banner.
Omg...is his running......properly ;) ?

[Catnip]

LOLOLOL


ITR > M3/M5/M WHATEVER

and you didn't even get an M car...

[Benefit]

wow, great feedback everyone...

the car has alot of work done to it

s52 cams...shark injector software...dr.vanos stage 1 kit...m3 bumpers and what not

m50 manifold swap...

alot more i cant think of right now...

but the blacked out wheels look straight up sick with the tint...wait for pics in this thread

and remember, im not gunna be keeping just those wheels on it

its my car, im gunna mod it MY way, just wait for pics everyone, shits mad gangstEr

[Catnip]

wow, great feedback everyone...

the car has alot of work done to it

s52 cams...shark injector software...dr.vanos stage 1 kit...m3 bumpers and what not

m50 manifold swap...

alot more i cant think of right now...

but the blacked out wheels look straight up sick with the tint...wait for pics in this thread

and remember, im not gunna be keeping just those wheels on it

its my car, im gunna mod it MY way, just wait for pics everyone, shits mad gangstEr

Any plans to pick up some wheels with a lip? I think that's all that's lacking. Looks and sounds like a really decent car.

[Benefit]

Any plans to pick up some wheels with a lip? I think that's all that's lacking. Looks and sounds like a really decent car.

yessir...exterior/interior mods is all ill be doing, hunting for black front and rear seats right now...

might boost in the future

[TRDwasiq]

Boost my ass/ post the pics up!!

[RL...]

Oh yeah...
ITR> M3, M5 M6 or in your case I guess a 328is... Right?

This has to be the biggest crock of shit ever.

An ITR, a fwd 4 banger 210 hp car better then rwd v6,v8,v10 coupes/sedans. Honda's are fine but if you believe that then....you apparently have the connect on the fire dank

[RL...]

LOLOLOL


ITR > M3/M5/M WHATEVER

and you didn't even get an M car...

lol, have you ever even driven an m3, m5 or an m6.

I've driven them and in stock form they offer more of a fun driving experience than any honda I've driven, in addition to being a luxury car, in addition to being NICE. 325-335's are great cars. I really wonder why honda ppl think they're teg/civic/accord is teh best thing ever.

[Catnip]

lol, have you ever even driven an m3, m5 or an m6.

I've driven them and in stock form they offer more of a fun driving experience than any honda I've driven, in addition to being a luxury car, in addition to being NICE. 325-335's are great cars. I really wonder why honda ppl think they're teg/civic/accord is teh best thing ever.


Stop running your cock sucker.

We were quoting the OP. He went on a little rant a while back about how his ITR was SOOOO superior to any M series car...

[Benefit]

bad camera phone pic...but u get the idea

[OnURleft]

This has to be the biggest crock of shit ever.

An ITR, a fwd 4 banger 210 hp car better then rwd v6,v8,v10 coupes/sedans. Honda's are fine but if you believe that then....you apparently have the connect on the fire dank

They don't make V6 Bmw's.



O.P if you do in fact have brain cells you'll get a custom obd2 tune and not the shark injector. There is much better stuff out now.

[Benefit]

if you were even smart enough to read what i had written , you would know it already HAS shark injection software

[OnURleft]

if you were even smart enough to read what i had written , you would know it already HAS shark injection software

Shame. Does virtually nothing.

[BobbyFresco]

This has to be the biggest crock of shit ever.

An ITR, a fwd 4 banger 210 hp car better then rwd v6,v8,v10 coupes/sedans. Honda's are fine but if you believe that then....you apparently have the connect on the fire dank\


Bmw makes an inline 6, not a v6.

[Catnip]

\


Bmw makes an inline 6, not a v6.


Repost.

[DeeAOne]

definite upgrade. now boost it.

[Dev]

all in all sweet ride.

[speedminded]

This has to be the biggest crock of shit ever.

An ITR, a fwd 4 banger 210 hp car better then rwd v6,v8,v10 coupes/sedans. Honda's are fine but if you believe that then....you apparently have the connect on the fire dankYou said V6. You shall have a smoldering hot BMW roundel branded on your face for such a defiling statement.

[jamesb18c1]

downgrade. but hey if your happy with it thats all that matters.

[speedminded]

downgrade. but hey if your happy with it thats all that matters.lulz...couldn't be more wrong. Busted ass ITR to this semi built BMW. Yes please.

[msanch24]

definitely a more mature car. who doesnt want a bmw?

[Benefit]

lulz...couldn't be more wrong. Busted ass ITR to this semi built BMW. Yes please.

no man..my itr was an amazing car too...

but im saying this is ALOT of car...im real happy with the purchase

[TRDwasiq]

So .. We rollin To varsity tonight or wht?>

[_Christian_]

LOLOLOL


ITR > M3/M5/M WHATEVER

and you didn't even get an M car...

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[ackrite1]

very nice upgrade

[bigdare23]

Dude, wasn't you bashing bmws a few months back and now you own one?!?

LAME

[Me86Rob]

i feel sorry for whomever got our ITR

[Benefit]

he drove it almost 1200 miles 24 hour drive without a hitch..stfu

the new owner also works at a body shop so fixing that little tiny ass dent should be no problem

oh and it sold for 8k cash...still getting pm's/calls/texts on it

[K20Z1]

i drove his ITR, it was fine to me.

[2rotor]

downgrade?
wtf? a 'performance' honda/acura (unless its an NSX or S2k, then its more of a lateral move :) ) to a BMW is a DOWNgrade?
you guys dont know then...
it may or may not be as fast/faster, but the materials and luxury of even a base model (e36 318) is just better.
not to mention the prestige of a tuned BMW over everybody and their brother's honda... even people not in the scene, like your grandpa or neighbor think BMW > honda.

dont get me wrong, i can get down with an ITR, i can respect honda engineering, nothing against it. but honda (acura) ITR to bimmer 3 is nothing LESS than a sideways move.

[98blackcivic]

lol sami nice car
and shutup chuptoos!

[Benefit]

LOL umair...


the 2 cars (itr/bmw) are in a completely different league, i dont think a comparison can be made only because of the itr's rarity factor and and the look of the car

i do miss vtec but the torque is fun to play with...^.^

but overall, the bm's ride quality is unmatchable

[Thighs]

LOL umair...


the 2 cars (itr/bmw) are in a completely different league, i dont think a comparison can be made only because of the itr's rarity factor and and the look of the car

i do miss vtec but the torque is fun to play with...^.^

but overall, the bm's ride quality is unmatchable

dont fucking call it a BM. its a BMW. call it a bmw, bimmer, e36, 328, ANYTHING but fucking BM.

DEFINITE upgrade. itr's are great cars, but not on the level or this car.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I don't know how his ITR ran but I have drove some ITR's before and I have also driven numerous of E36's and I think the ITR is a much better car then the E36. I like the corners and stuff, and that's just what the ITR was built for. That E36 sure wasn't built for that. And I'm only speaking for that trim. This opinion has NOTHING to do with E36 M3's.

I think it's a downgrade but everyone will have their opinions.

[Benefit]

lol i took a 90 degree turn today at about ~40mph....UNDERSTEER!!! need some strut bars :)

would of ate that turn in the honda

[OnURleft]

I don't know how his ITR ran but I have drove some ITR's before and I have also driven numerous of E36's and I think the ITR is a much better car then the E36. I like the corners and stuff, and that's just what the ITR was built for. That E36 sure wasn't built for that. And I'm only speaking for that trim. This opinion has NOTHING to do with E36 M3's.

I think it's a downgrade but everyone will have their opinions.

Your lack of experience shows.

Stock 325is with bilsteins/H&R/weight reduction vs a FIELD of M3's or E30's with M3 motors.
This car does 44's on Road Atlanta with street tires. To give you a perspective there are two guys who do BMWCCA track days with ITR's on coil overs, R comps and they run 48's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQ9S2XtcZY
That car was running 1:08's. It would take a field of mods to get an ITR within seconds of that


lol i took a 90 degree turn today at about ~40mph....UNDERSTEER!!! need some strut bars :)

would of ate that turn in the honda

try the driver mod sometime

[Vteckidd]

yessir...exterior/interior mods is all ill be doing, hunting for black front and rear seats right now...

might boost in the future

in for "BMW SHELL FOR SALE, BLOWN MOTOR, EBAY TURBO KIT" thread in few months time

[speedminded]

I don't know how his ITR ran but I have drove some ITR's before and I have also driven numerous of E36's and I think the ITR is a much better car then the E36. I like the corners and stuff, and that's just what the ITR was built for. That E36 sure wasn't built for that. And I'm only speaking for that trim. This opinion has NOTHING to do with E36 M3's.

I think it's a downgrade but everyone will have their opinions.At what point do facts supersede opinion? If you really think that then you're scared of the e36 and simply don't know how to drive it. Even stock the car is so neutral not to mention I'm sure the e36's you drove had broken rear trailing arm bushings. You ever driven an M3? What's the difference? 40hp and a more rigid suspension? You can buy stock m3 shocks and springs for a few hundred $$$.

I've been involved with the extreme end of both Honda's and BMW's. Put an added$15k+ into the ITR/Civic/Del Sol and you can have a car that will out maneuver the BMW. Put that $15k into the BMW...holy :eek:


lol i took a 90 degree turn today at about ~40mph....UNDERSTEER!!! need some strut bars :)

would of ate that turn in the hondaYou think strut bars are going to prevent understeer? LOL!!! It's called turn in and gently lift the throttle to get it to rotate then get back in it.

Also helps if the car has a proper alignment.

[CopyRight]

in for "BMW SHELL FOR SALE, BLOWN MOTOR, EBAY TURBO KIT" thread in few months time


all new "forged" internals too!

[Benefit]

i see we still have haters

[Me86Rob]

i see we still have haters

yup

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Your lack of experience shows.

Stock 325is with bilsteins/H&R/weight reduction vs a FIELD of M3's or E30's with M3 motors.
This car does 44's on Road Atlanta with street tires. To give you a perspective there are two guys who do BMWCCA track days with ITR's on coil overs, R comps and they run 48's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQ9S2XtcZY
That car was running 1:08's. It would take a field of mods to get an ITR within seconds of thatDude....I'm talking here about a STOCK ITR and a STOCK E36......You're throwing in a 325 with modifications to it. Move aside fan boy.


At what point do facts supersede opinion? If you really think that then you're scared of the e36 and simply don't know how to drive it. Even stock the car is so neutral not to mention I'm sure the e36's you drove had broken rear trailing arm bushings. You ever driven an M3? What's the difference? 40hp and a more rigid suspension? You can buy stock m3 shocks and springs for a few hundred $$$.

I've been involved with the extreme end of both Honda's and BMW's. Put an added$15k+ into the ITR/Civic/Del Sol and you can have a car that will out maneuver the BMW. Put that $15k into the BMW...holy :eek:Damn didn't know I drove 5 different ones with the same problem. I don't understand why everyone on IA has to have sand in their vaginas when someone gives their opinion. I mean, I saw E36's ALL DAY EVERY DAY...BORING !!! ITR are rare and are becoming even more rare with all the thefts and accidents. Like I said.....I would rather drive a ITR ANY DAY than a E36 325. Don't get me wrong I love me a BMW and I've been in search of a clean E30 for a while now but I just think the ITR was better.

[Benefit]

itr is fun but bmw is more practical

[Me86Rob]

itr is fun but bmw is more practical , end of discussion!

stfu

[Benefit]

bitch who the fuck u tellin to stfu

[Me86Rob]

bitch who the fuck u tellin to stfu


uh. you. jackass

[TRDwasiq]

wtf is goin ? on

[speedminded]

Damn didn't know I drove 5 different ones with the same problem. I don't understand why everyone on IA has to have sand in their vaginas when someone gives their opinion. I mean, I saw E36's ALL DAY EVERY DAY...BORING !!! ITR are rare and are becoming even more rare with all the thefts and accidents. Like I said.....I would rather drive a ITR ANY DAY than a E36 325. Don't get me wrong I love me a BMW and I've been in search of a clean E30 for a while now but I just think the ITR was better.Too bad this car is a 328, about the same power but more torque...not to mention the upgrades.

BMW used natural rubber for all their bushings. Natural rubber deteriorates much faster than synthetic bushings. There's a good change 4/5 or even 9/10 e36's you drive need the bushings replaced, especially the RTABS. As long as the e36 has good condition bushings it will out handle the ITR in EVERY aspect stock for stock.

If you're accustomed to FWD's then you won't be able to drive the e36 to its full potential, not even close.

[Benefit]

put 800 miles on it in 5 days lol

[Humphrizzle]

I would have kept an ITR but I guess i can see why you got this.

looks great. keep it up.

[jfman]

OMFG! Epic thread! You made my day Benefit.

Enjoy your "piece of shit" BMW :goodjob:

[Logan]

this thread is one big face palm. I cannot even begin quoting some of the stupid shit said in here.

[KevinT707]

Ehh..