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SilviaK93
09-24-2005, 12:26 PM
Now this has to be the most interesting and $hit talking race I have been in thus far. I just got to one of the local meeting spots and this group of guys asked me if I would run a red Trans Am. I was cool with it, then asked what the car had. "It's stock with a 4.10 gear and exhaust" was their response. I called BS as it wouldnt even be worth my time. I asked what about the bottle and they denied a bottle on the car. Whatever!! We talk about where to go and really cant come to a conclusion. All this time the owner of the car was not saying anything as his buddy did all the talking. Pablo then showed up and witnessed all the aftermath. The owner of the car then blows his top and says, "I will run that car anywhere from any mph and drag that $hit down the road, and show you how slow that Z06 really is!" I was pissed. I said ok and agreed to his location and mph- let's see you drag my $hit I said.

We get to the meeting spot EVENTUALLY, and his buddy then starts checking out my car. Keep in mind they were talking all this BIG GAME earlier. His buddy spots the bottle and yells out "he's got a bottle." That's not fair.......:blah: I told them it wasnt my problem, they were the one's saying they were going to drag my $hit so bring it. I told them I hope you got a big shot on that STOCK WS6! So now they wont run unless I disconnect the bottle. I did so I can see him drag my a$$, as he says. We line up at 20mph while others line up down the street at the end. I hit off the honks and he jumps the gun early before the third honk so I just hit it. He gets a .5-1 car jump b/c of this. Mid-top of third I start reeling him HARD! He let's off right as I am about to pass. I ask if he wants to run again and he does.

We line up again from 20mph and we get a dead even take off. I put a fender off the jump. Spin second gear to redline, SHIFT, spin going into third and car gets squirly and catches now I am .5 ahead. Top of 3rd going into 4th and bye bye I go. It was all over at 105. Cant say the gap, but it was getting nasty if we had more room. 3.42 gear>4.10 from 100+mph :D

We get back to the parking lot and discuss the run. He admits the first run I was coming hard, and second I won. We were cool and start talking about the cars, here's what this "STOCK" WS6 had.....

Heads and Cam
Long tubes, etc
TB
Lid
4.10
Forged 346ci- pistons, rods, etc
last dyno numbers were- 417rwhp/400rwtq (says probably making alittle more b/c of some recent changes)

Didnt know they came like this from the factory...:eek: He gave props to the Z and he saw under my hood. Made it worst for him to know I disconnected the bottle and won with just 3 bolt-ons. :D

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 12:29 PM
nice...the gears and extra weight of the fbody owned him.

benwaballs
09-24-2005, 12:37 PM
i don't understand why ppl get so worked up over racing... its for fun. i had a gto get all pissy w/ me cause i beat him w/ a vw he wanted to see in my trunk cause he "KNOWS I HAVE NOS" i showed him he said B.S and riped out of the parking lot. oh well, some ppl cant enjoy them selfs... opps didnt mean to jack your thread again nice kill
:goodjob:

HiPSI
09-24-2005, 12:41 PM
hmmm... guess i should've hung around last night instead of just driving through.

SilviaK93
09-24-2005, 01:07 PM
hmmm... guess i should've hung around last night instead of just driving through.

definately, I called you but you were sleepy.;) I am sure he would have under estimated your little 4 banger........ :goodjob:

SilviaK93
09-24-2005, 01:10 PM
nice...the gears and extra weight of the fbody owned him.

I dont know why many Z owners go to a higher gear. I love the stock 3.42....it is somewhat strong from down low b/c of the weight and amazing on the highway- 180mph (6800 rev limiter:D)

Big Rick
09-24-2005, 01:10 PM
lol good kill

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 01:25 PM
I dont know why many Z owners go to a higher gear. I love the stock 3.42....it is somewhat strong from down low b/c of the weight and amazing on the highway- 180mph (6800 rev limiter:D)

yeah,maybe they are more into running 1/8 mile or something. A lot of stang guys are like that too. I have 3.27s gears in my coupe but i don't need a lot of gear to accelerate my car. :D

tony
09-24-2005, 02:34 PM
damnit marshall you've been busy.. I'm going to start following you to these spots from now on. nice kill

Nyteryder
09-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Wow I missed that, I guess I came up there to late

AznTraitor
09-24-2005, 04:33 PM
bleh.


edited.

BCRAFTY
09-24-2005, 05:45 PM
:bowdown: Z06.... If the WS6 had a h/c swap.. he should of pulled on you by at least a 1 car.. the 4.10 slowed it down alot but it still should of.. I think it was the driver ,not the car.. I've seen a 2000 WS6 with a 75 shot pull a Z06 three times in a row with two different drivers in the Z06(both were good).. But i guess you get cocky when you drive a 380 rwhp car.. LOL

BCRAFTY
09-24-2005, 05:49 PM
but nice kill if it really happen that way... PS i love corvettes.. No hate meant.. I'll see everyone tonight.. i'm riding out that way with luv2speed.

Pablo
09-24-2005, 07:06 PM
but nice kill if it really happen that way....
it really did happen that way.

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:13 PM
I am the owner of this H/C Trans-am that you ran last night and I can add to the story. You did not want to race from a dig, which is what I normally race from and everyone wanted to see a race so I agreed to go from a roll.

1st race 20 roll, I won by 3/4 car. I did not let off, I hit my limiter in 4th @ 120.
2nd race 30 roll, dead even until 120, ran out of gear(4th). Yes, you were coming around.

I thought it was a great race all things considered, 3750 Raceweight TA against a 3200# Z06. 417RWHP T/A VS. 388RWHP Z06

We shook hands and gave each other props for good racing and nice cars. It was nice to finally come out and do some racing instead of the big car show it normally is.

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:16 PM
oh shit that was mikes red ws6 you ran? I could never imagine mike being a big shit talker. I wonder if Henry was the buddy who was whining about the bottle?

haha whats up mike.

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:19 PM
I think everyone was talking a little trash just to get a race going instead of watching the big carshow @ PNR. :) We all just wanted a fair race, I told him I would run him from a dig if he wanted to use the bottle, which was declined. :)

We tried to get him to run's Henry's car, but his buddy kept complaining about it had a blower ZzZzzZzz... I don't blame him, it would have been ugly.

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:22 PM
I think everyone was talking a little trash just to get a race going instead of watching the big carshow @ PNR. :) We all just wanted a fair race, I told him I would run him from a dig if he wanted to use the bottle, which was declined. :)

yeah,i've heard there a lot of fbodies up there for the car show. I know your car is pretty nasty from a dig. I guess you got a decent rear end in it now though right?

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:23 PM
Nah I was running on the whining 10-bolt, I've been at the lake this summer riding my Waverunners, so I haven't dedicated any time to the TA. Last night was the first time I cranked it up in over a month. LOL

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:28 PM
I dunno henrys car vs that zo6 on the spray would be pretty close i think?

BCRAFTY
09-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Mike... i've only come across ONE vette that had the balls to get it from a dig.. Most vette drivers know they don't have sh*t from a stop..

BCRAFTY
09-24-2005, 07:29 PM
What does henry drive

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:31 PM
What does henry drive

93 red fox body coupe with a vortech blower and other bolt ons.

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:32 PM
I dunno henrys car vs that zo6 on the spray would be pretty close i think?

No way, but theres only one way to find out! :)

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:33 PM
No way, but theres only one way to find out! :)

heh,for sure. I know from a dig henry will win since hes a good driver but a roll run would be interesting.

BCRAFTY
09-24-2005, 07:34 PM
No way, but theres only one way to find out! :)


Get that race set up!!!!!!!!!!

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:37 PM
I still don't understand why people don't like racing from a stop. I believe it's because it takes more skill to hook up a high TQ car, especially on street tires. But it's all about the combination. Racing from a roll is very dependant of gearing, with my 3.42's back in the car it would be great racing from a roll, no wheelspin.

WINDSOR
09-24-2005, 07:39 PM
I still don't understand why people don't like racing from a stop. I believe it's because it takes more skill to hook up a high TQ car, especially on street tires. But it's all about the combination. Racing from a roll is very dependant of gearing, with my 3.42's back in the car it would be great racing from a roll, no wheelspin.

A lot of people don't like breaking parts. I know you know all about that. Racing from a kick is usually a lot less stress on the drivetrain. Also a lot of people just can't get a very high hp car to hook up on radial tires

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:42 PM
True true. Breaking drivetrain sucks. Hopefully in a few weeks I'll get back into working on the TA. I just need to get that 9" ordered. I still indecisive on going with a detroit locker b/c it clunks a lot, or go with the tru-track (posi-style but weaker).

AznTraitor
09-24-2005, 07:46 PM
hold the f-up....is this porkchop???

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 07:51 PM
Yesser! You guys didn't tell him he was racing a celebrity. hehehe j/k :)

mike's02ls1
09-24-2005, 07:52 PM
hold the f-up....is this porkchop???
Yeah that B porkchop!!

mike's02ls1
09-24-2005, 07:53 PM
YUP YUP. :) Who's this?That is Pete..

AznTraitor
09-24-2005, 08:01 PM
Porkchop...this is Peter! how the heck have you been? last I heard you got married and moved out to BFE!

I did the same, minus the marrying part.

AznTraitor
09-24-2005, 08:02 PM
Yesser! You guys didn't tell him he was racing a celebrity. hehehe j/k :)


celebrity is right....everyone knows you.

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 08:05 PM
I got married last july and bought a house in Snellville, GA. Still working for "the man". Where did you move to? Where are you working these days?

AznTraitor
09-24-2005, 08:06 PM
I got married last july and bought a house in Snellville, GA. Still working for "the man". Where did you move to? Where are you working these days?


I'll PM you...I dont want to take away from marshall's post :D

m1key99ws6
09-24-2005, 08:07 PM
I'll PM you...I dont want to take away from marshall's post :D

LOL :rolleyes:

SilviaK93
09-25-2005, 01:26 PM
A celebrity you are Mike.:D It was good meeting you and it was some very close racing. I can agree with your reply to the first race as it is basically what I said. Second race I would have to say I did have the fender on you. Regardless a fender makes for a damn near even race. You got a very impressive Trans there. I knew you were famous last night as when I went back up there some were commenting on our race. Basically trying to take away the fact that you and I are about a dead even heat. Then they go on to comment- oh you should run bottle to bottle and he will stomp your car.....:blah:. I just laughed and agreed. A forged 346 on the bottle vs. a stock 346 on bottle is a hands down contest. I was happy that you and I were able to walk away with good words and a hand shake although I stick with my fender lead....:goodjob:!

We should hook up again as many people are coming out wanting to play it seems. Would be nice to see your car in action once again- running someone else next time though.

boosted1jz
09-25-2005, 02:31 PM
ooooooooooooooo i wanna be at the next race :D

i think u should run henry!!! :D that car is SLLLLOOOOWWW haha

maybe if im lucky my old rust bucket will be up and running again and i can play too :D

all i got is a hair dryer

chris

AznTraitor
09-25-2005, 03:14 PM
race mike from a dig.


race henry....his mustang is piss poor slow....then you can say you handed a supercharged mustang his lunch.

m1key99ws6
09-25-2005, 04:42 PM
I have a forged 346, but I have not yet put the bottle on it. I've had a lot of problems keeping a good rear in the car since it weighs so much leaving on slicks. I've broken a gazillion 10 bolts and ripped all the welds on my 8.8" 31 splined rear. I was in the process of getting a 9" early this summer until I picked up a couple of wave runners, and put the car on the back burner.

We went riding on the lake today and it's about time to put the ski's back up for the winter :(

Luv2spd
09-25-2005, 07:41 PM
A celebrity you are Mike.:D It was good meeting you and it was some very close racing. I can agree with your reply to the first race as it is basically what I said. Second race I would have to say I did have the fender on you. Regardless a fender makes for a damn near even race. You got a very impressive Trans there. I knew you were famous last night as when I went back up there some were commenting on our race. Basically trying to take away the fact that you and I are about a dead even heat. Then they go on to comment- oh you should run bottle to bottle and he will stomp your car.....:blah:. I just laughed and agreed. A forged 346 on the bottle vs. a stock 346 on bottle is a hands down contest. I was happy that you and I were able to walk away with good words and a hand shake although I stick with my fender lead....:goodjob:!

We should hook up again as many people are coming out wanting to play it seems. Would be nice to see your car in action once again- running someone else next time though.

Hey marshall there are 2 Trans am's here he can run ones even a girls car :lmfao: Then he can run the HAWK :D

Luv2spd
09-25-2005, 07:43 PM
I have a forged 346, but I have not yet put the bottle on it. I've had a lot of problems keeping a good rear in the car since it weighs so much leaving on slicks. I've broken a gazillion 10 bolts and ripped all the welds on my 8.8" 31 splined rear. I was in the process of getting a 9" early this summer until I picked up a couple of wave runners, and put the car on the back burner.

We went riding on the lake today and it's about time to put the ski's back up for the winter :(

Are you up to running a couple of trans ams?????????

boosted1jz
09-25-2005, 07:45 PM
give me a few weeks to get broken in and tuned and im up 4 running some T/A's :D and HAWKs and vettes and whatever :D

but be nice! cause i have a OOOOOOLD supra that might rattle itself aparthttp://www.mustangmods.com/data/13194/hahano.gif

Luv2spd
09-25-2005, 08:01 PM
give me a few weeks to get broken in and tuned and im up 4 running some T/A's :D and HAWKs and vettes and whatever :D

but be nice! cause i have a OOOOOOLD supra that might rattle itself aparthttp://www.mustangmods.com/data/13194/hahano.gif

Sounds good man. Let me know when the car is up and running and we can have some fun.

SandM
09-25-2005, 08:25 PM
i really need a faster car so i have something to hang out for...

m1key99ws6
09-25-2005, 09:20 PM
Are you up to running a couple of trans ams?????????

Are you the owner of one of the T/A's your speaking about, or just a cheerleader for them?

SilviaK93
09-25-2005, 11:20 PM
Are you the owner of one of the T/A's your speaking about, or just a cheerleader for them?

Since I am on I will answer your question
He is the boyfriend of the TA the girl drives, and he is the owner of the Hawk.

SilviaK93
09-25-2005, 11:25 PM
race mike from a dig.

Peter---- what's my name? I dont race from a dig;)- I know my weaknesses. That 4.10 would own me from a dig:(, I think the 20 roll was a fair comparison enough.

Luv2spd
09-26-2005, 01:56 AM
Are you the owner of one of the T/A's your speaking about, or just a cheerleader for them?

What marshall said.

AznTraitor
09-26-2005, 08:49 AM
Peter---- what's my name? I dont race from a dig;)- I know my weaknesses. That 4.10 would own me from a dig:(, I think the 20 roll was a fair comparison enough.


come on now man....you can only get better when you learn to race from a dig...and I'm sure that your rearend is gonna hold up nicely! I dont know how many times I've done like a 5k-7k drop on my old 8.8 and it never gave out on me. 4.10 can be your own worst enemy too, I went from a 3.27 to a 4.10 and if you dump it all on a 4.10, without good tires, all you do is spin...and if you are making decent power, and have good tires, you still gotta kinda baby it a little....

technically speaking, you have the better advantage at the line....it's alot harder to launch at the line with a steeper gear it takes some finessing.

Wedge
09-26-2005, 09:13 AM
good kill to a fast car

nothing like beating someone down after they trash talk

m1key99ws6
09-26-2005, 10:34 AM
Since everyone wants to run everyone why don't we make a trip down to reynolds for the street-lethal BS stops here race Oct 16th. I will bring my slicks with me and make some 11 second motor passes and see if this 10 bolts holds out. :) Nothing like leaving @ 6700 off the line! I'm sure Henry is game for it.

Jason, Mikey, Conrad, T/A people?

Just get all of the PNR people together to come up and actually "run" their cars and we'll probably have a good turn out?

Anyone interested?

boosted1jz
09-26-2005, 01:33 PM
sounds like fun :D


btw mikey this is chris.....wades buddy with the old supra :D


i wanted to race henry last year even though i knew id get my shit handed to me but i just wanted to see that car go :D but never got the chance :( damn commerce lines damn them to hellllll

m1key99ws6
09-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Sup chris! I heard you've got a big turbo and built motor these days!

AznTraitor
09-26-2005, 04:14 PM
Sup chris! I heard you've got a big turbo and built motor these days!


hahaha, be careful when racing near him....you never know what can break off or come flying from the car.

m1key99ws6
09-26-2005, 05:14 PM
hahaha, be careful when racing near him....you never know what can break off or come flying from the car.

No need to worry about that, the LS1 will be way ahead of the supra hehehe :D

boosted1jz
09-26-2005, 06:27 PM
whats a turbo?!

im alll broken!

WINDSOR
09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
I hear 1jzs are pretty slow. 2jz is the shit! Thats the big block of toyotas i think! 3.0 liters!

boosted1jz
09-26-2005, 09:13 PM
i dont have a 1jz or a 2jz :tongue:

i have a MUT :)