K20 NSX...........

[1989_crx_si]

I wouldn't do it but I guess others will. I know it's alot cheaper to build a K20 but after fabrication it'll cost about the same as to turbo a NSX motor. It's to much work but hey it's something new.


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee149/thisnewdude/DSCF3139.jpg

[EJ25RUN]

um? Different. But yeah, i'd keep the 6 cylinder.

[Brian*]

That's a big why lol

[mocha latte cupcake]

lulz wut.

[Mr. Clean]

a sprayed turbo k series in an nsx.

:dunno:

i can't think of many LOGICAL reasons to do this.

[takume]

What?

[JDMJAYDC2]

maybe the nsx was a theft recovery and the k swap may be cheaper than a nsx motor only real reason i see someone would ditch the stock nsx motor

[jew_boy]

it a weird swap but creative

[SLOWR/T]

The motors lighter??? That could be my only guess. Other than that its like taking a LS1 out of a vette and putting a 4.3 in it. Makes no sence.

[Mr. Clean]

The motors lighter??? That could be my only guess. Other than that its like taking a LS1 out of a vette and putting a 4.3 in it. Makes no sence.

really?




tehehhe *runs*

[larossa9]

maybe the nsx was a theft recovery and the k swap may be cheaper than a nsx motor only real reason i see someone would ditch the stock nsx motor
i would hope so,


Or maybe its just a Really Bad Joke

[cactusEG]

why would anyone do this to an NSX ?

[Sammich]

THIS IS JUST GAY

[SLOWR/T]

really?




tehehhe *runs*

Yup. I was waiting on you to say something.

[Mr. Clean]

Yup. I was waiting on you to say something.

yu knowz im da grammer natzee

[xdavidscenex]

i like it.

really nice.

[jew_boy]

why would anyone do this to an NSX ?

well why would someone go SR over KA??

light weight.:goodjob:

dun dun dun!!!

and why would a fat boy like you dont get something with more power and tq.:tongue1:

[yerrow]

why not though? they swap 2jz's out for 3sgte's in supras for racing the for jgtc...why because of lighter weight and almost the same power potential

[DieselNuts]

is it just me or does that turbo look like its in the complete wrong place?

[jew_boy]

is it just me or does that turbo look like its in the complete wrong place?

:no:

research man. this is 2009. not everyone have LOG manifold anymore.

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/images/honda%20k%20series%20swap%20t3.jpg

[Bruce Leroy]

Makes sense to me, especially if you are paying a shop to do all your work.

Lets say they are starting with a bare chassis, with no motor or trans. A nsx motor and trans is going to cost like 8-10 grand. Then add another 5 or 6 grand for the motor build, and another 9 grand for a BASIC love fab kit. You are looking around 22 grand for ~400 whp. Thats not even counting instillation, a decent ems, and all the other shit that will nickel and dime you to death..... Se we will say 30k

I think you could have a reliable 500whp kseries for about half of that.



LoveFab also offers complete engine building through Elkins Race Engines to maximize the potential of the Staged Turbo systems! Prices range from $7500.00 Stage 1 engine build(pistons only, 3.0 motors only) to the Stage 3, 900+WHP capable build.
:eek:

[The BUCKY]

yea boost on those v6 are not cheap at all and they max out around 430hp u can get the same power outta the k series for alot cheaper and the weight savings would be nice

[C-loS109]

i want my money back

[CHADbee]

same reason they did this i guess.....

http://www.modified.com/sportculture/feature_nov01.html

[4DrTeg]

i like..its very different

[B00STedSvT]

same reason they did this i guess.....

http://www.modified.com/sportculture/feature_nov01.htmlUr the man Chad..I was just about to post something like this..I know of atleast 4 350z professional drift cars that have either Blown the motor or started without one and put sr20s in them..I know the Parts are Alot cheaper and still have almost the same Hp capabilities as the v6..Basically the same concept here..K20s can hold 400whp daily on stock internals..Spend 1000 on a Sleeve And Turn the Boost up!

[2turbo4u]

wouldn't you want more weight since its mid engine that shit would loose traction in a minute?

[AnthonyF]

:no:

research man. this is 2009. not everyone have LOG manifold anymore.



Lol, yeah. They do this to make it fit but also performance with the equal length tubes. So it serves as a few purposes.

-Ant.

[eYezs1ck]

disgrace

[B00STedSvT]

disgraceWhats such a disgrace about it? Whats special about the nsx motor besides 2 more cylinders? Didnt mahdavi build a Nsx-Crx that ran like 14s-15s? K20 is an awesome motor and should Hardly be considered a "Disgrace"

[LIKEG6]

It's alright if they didn't have a motor to begin with. I mean if you have the money then you can do whatever you want.

There is an NSX is this months modified I think makin like 6 or 700hp with the V6.

[eYezs1ck]

Whats such a disgrace about it? Whats special about the nsx motor besides 2 more cylinders? Didnt mahdavi build a Nsx-Crx that ran like 14s-15s? K20 is an awesome motor and should Hardly be considered a "Disgrace"
2 cylinders.

[CHADbee]

Ur the man Chad..I was just about to post something like this..I know of atleast 4 350z professional drift cars that have either Blown the motor or started without one and put sr20s in them..I know the Parts are Alot cheaper and still have almost the same Hp capabilities as the v6..Basically the same concept here..K20s can hold 400whp daily on stock internals..Spend 1000 on a Sleeve And Turn the Boost up!
when i had my 350z i was thinking about doing a SR swap. people said i was stupid :rolleyes:

people will say the K series NSX is stupid too. id rather have a K24 with type S head thats boosted in a NSX over a C30A or C32B. cheaper and alot easier to make power.

a K24A1 from the CRV has 9:6:1 factory compression, toss a type s head on that bitch and some boost and you got semi-decent TQ for a honda and can make 450whp stock block with a lighter motor. how much will it take to get a C30A to 450whp? bang for the buck baby!

[B00STedSvT]

Its already been proven that U dont need a bigger motor to be faster...Unless u have something u need to compensate for...

[B00STedSvT]

a K24A1 from the CRV has 9:6:1 factory compression, toss a type s head on that bitch and some boost and you got semi-decent TQ for a honda and can make 450whp stock block with a lighter motor. how much will it take to get a C30A to 450whp? bang for the buck baby!:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: +Repped for taking the words right out of my mouth

[FliPPYFloP]

i like it

[Axix23]

i think its a great move. k20 has hondata kpro ems and its nasty tunable.. k20 will make a hella lot of more power too...

[K20Z1]

wtf?

[Axix23]

wtf?

i think its sick.. More and easier parts to obtain for a k20.. Makes total sense.. :)

[K20Z1]

i know.. but wen i first look at it, my first though was "wtf"

[Axix23]

i think it looks nasty :) sidwinder manifold FTW :)

[K20Z1]

i have a k20, give me that setup lol

[CHADbee]

~starts looking for NSX shell~

[Vteckidd]

Theres prob a good reason for it. Weight , availability of parts, power potential, Cost, etc.

Sure the INITIAL cost is alot, but if this is some road racing car, he could potentially be going through 3-10 motors a season.

Its MUCH cheaper and economical to replace the K20 than it is an NSX motor.

[CHADbee]

Theres prob a good reason for it. Weight , availability of parts, power potential, Cost, etc.

Sure the INITIAL cost is alot, but if this is some road racing car, he could potentially be going through 3-10 motors a season.

Its MUCH cheaper and economical to replace the K20 than it is an NSX motor.
you dont know what your talking about n00b :lmao:

call me when you get a chance, if you can post something up for me it would be appreciated.

[Vteckidd]

and think about it, its a V6, so theres 2 OF EVERYTHING. 2 Headgaskets, 2 Manifolds, 2 heads, etc.

Its much simpler to eliminate all that down to a single 4 cylinder engine.

I dunno makes perfect sense to me

[Thighs]

Theres prob a good reason for it. Weight , availability of parts, power potential, Cost, etc.

Sure the INITIAL cost is alot, but if this is some road racing car, he could potentially be going through 3-10 motors a season.

Its MUCH cheaper and economical to replace the K20 than it is an NSX motor.

i think the big bottle of nitrous rules it out as a dedicated road racing car... lol. unless some time attack classes let you spray?

[Vteckidd]

i think the big bottle of nitrous rules it out as a dedicated road racing car... lol. unless some time attack classes let you spray?
man its a bottle just hanging out no lines or anything. Could be a prop.

Maybe its someones drag car?

Maybe its just a play toy

[CHADbee]

maybe its there to spool the turbo....

[greasemunkey]

if your not all caught up in OMG its an nsx keep it oem! then its a sweet idea. id be like wtf? that's cool. you wouldn't see it anywhere else

[Mike Lowrey]

That swap is pure fail.

[Jecht]

Interesting... lol

[eg mike]

neat.


wish I had tons of money to blow away

[B00STedSvT]

That swap is pure fail.^^That post is Pure Fail

[matthewAPM]

Dont rule out the Time Attack thing yet. There are some TA cars in UK that have the bottle.

As for the K20, its a great idea. Im sure it weighs less then the 6 that came in it, they can mount it lower in the car being that they had to use custom motor mounts, and its way cheaper to build a K20 then the original motor

[CHADbee]

That swap is pure fail.
Now back up, put the gun down, and get me a pack of Tropical Fruit Bubblicious

[greasemunkey]

Now back up, put the gun down, and get me a pack of Tropical Fruit Bubblicioushaha

[BAHHHHHH!!!!]

thats strange

[csmiths]

i can see someone doing this if it was one of the older models with the relativly weak hp 3.0, but idk if you have an nsx then you should have the money to do whatever the hell you want to it.

[VTECking]

Maybe the picked up the NSX w/no motor? Thats the only excuse I could think for them doing this.

[1989_crx_si]

The only thing I got from the owner was that it was a track car. For someone to do this it should be weight savings and a cheaper build. I've seen NSX basically stripped to about 2400 lbs as track cars so how much lighter is this setup? Maybe a a few hundred pounds lighters? I need to find out how much these two motors weigh.

[yeaiwonder88]

Not much at all....this is pointless the hp turbo hit made 600 hp on stock nsx motor...so yea..

[redrumracer]

MAYBE for more engine space. just a thought.

[Axix23]

Not much at all....this is pointless the hp turbo hit made 600 hp on stock nsx motor...so yea..

tuning cability on a k20 with hondata is far superior than a stock nsx motor :)

[mirz833]

wow

[2turbo4u]

Maybe the owner was tired of dropping the motor to fix things?

[Got Milk?]

lol wut?

why swap in a k20? wtf. who ever did that burn in hell bitch

[speedminded]

I posted this idea years ago on here lol! Can't search for the thread because NSX and K20 are both less than 4 characters. I'm glad somebody has FINALLY did it.

Eventually somebody's going to figure out how to build a sub-frame from scratch and mount an LSX in one...I've researched the dimensions on just about every mid engine V8 production car built, studying the gear boxes of each to see if it would be possible to work in an NSX. fail lol!

[TallGuy]

Not my thing but looks good

[speedminded]

Not my thing but looks goodI want your car with an LS7, BBS LM's, JIC Coil-overs, & synthetic suede interior. :boobies:

[WalkS]

Cool! I would do it, If I had money to waste. But building a k series is much cheaper than the v6. I say it's probably a 35r turbo, so maybe the hp range will be in the 400-500 range and plus the nitrous.

[1989_crx_si]

I wouldn't do it and I got 2 sitting in my garage. The only reason that will even cross my mind is if I found a cheap chassis. It's about $10k for a 3.2 litre and 6 speed tranny and a little cheaper for a 3.0 and 5 speed. Say if it didn't have a motor I'll probably put $10k into the fabricating a K series/turbo into the chassis I might consider doing. If the NSX has a motor already it'll cost $10k for a lovefab kit (450 WHP) or $8k HP kit (600 WHP) to make an NSX a 10 second 1/4 dragster and a great track car. Overall you will not be able to sell a K20 NSX the same price as a stock NSX.

[Ol' Gregg]

BALLIN!!! you can make 400-600 hp reliable hp with a k motor...... With the 6 you can only make about 350-400 and have a good amount of problems with the car..... and its alot more to fix. The k motor is lighter and face it, easier to work on

[bigdare23]

LAME! K is the swap of the decade in integra and civic chassis, not NSX chassis.

Just why? The NSX is already a pretty balanced car, therefore throwing the K in it could jeopardize the handling of the car. If money is problem, get out of the game! Don't buy a car, you can't maintain.

[LongLiveH2b]

i think the nsx's were made 50/50 weight and i think throwin in a K series just threw it off, well wouldnt be bad if it was just a drag car by lightening it up, but still somethin diff. is always nice to see

[DieselNuts]

:no:
research man. this is 2009. not everyone have LOG manifold anymore.
my bad, I don't like Hondas anyway, so why would I do research on them?

[JITB]

the sound?
The displacement?
the torque?
:( :(

i dont approve... but its a nice plan..

[matthewAPM]

i think the nsx's were made 50/50 weight and i think throwin in a K series just threw it off, well wouldnt be bad if it was just a drag car by lightening it up, but still somethin diff. is always nice to see

yep, 50/50. BUT if you can move some stuff around and keep the 50/50 with less weight....well then you did something worth doing.

Its things like this that win races...

[speedminded]

LAME! K is the swap of the decade in integra and civic chassis, not NSX chassis.

Just why? The NSX is already a pretty balanced car, therefore throwing the K in it could jeopardize the handling of the car. If money is problem, get out of the game! Don't buy a car, you can't maintain.How many NSX's have you seen on a road course? How many NSX's do you see successful on road courses? They're twitchy just like the S2k and cost ALOT to maintain. Like VTECKIDD said, two of everything on the engine. You can get them for under $20k. I almost bought a one owner '91 with all maintenance records in '03 with 99k miles for $18k, immaculate condition. There was no way I could get a loan on a 13 year old car and I wished I traded my Land Rover in on it!

I can promise you reducing weight near the CENTER of a car is not going to jeopardize anything...it is a mid-engine car remember? lol! I've seen chassis' go for under under $10k years ago so it's really nothing that special other than a really nice aluminum unibody to start a project with.

[Bigt8aford]

let the man finish his work before we judge... but good luck with that, kinda like the new direction, maybe post up some more info on the project

[FasTech]

I bet its still going to be fast and lighter while doing so. But I'm sure their's alot more to it than just taking the NSX motor out for a K-swap. I''m sure it was theft recovery or salvage title and they had a hook up on the K or decided to build a race car and wanted something lighter but yet still being fast. Oh and if that has already been stated, forgive me for not reading all 4 pages...lolol

[CHADbee]

I want your car with an LS7, BBS LM's, JIC Coil-overs, & synthetic suede interior. :boobies:
theres a guy out here in covington with a nice LS1 Z32 and i want it sooo hard :idb:

[ATL_EG]

a part of me just died :no:

[SRlude95]

interesting....... i bet it's still quick

[Humphrizzle]

The motors lighter??? That could be my only guess. Other than that its like taking a LS1 out of a vette and putting a 4.3 in it. Makes no sence.


how?

less expensive motor, parts, and turbo'd for the same price as a stock motor that makes less power.



K20 rated ~ 220.

C30 rated ~ 270-290

K20 + turbo ~ 400.

which is a better deal?