$15,000 Coilovers

[Homer Simpson]

Sooo, I was browsing around looking at stuff at school when I stumbled upon these coilovers :eek:

http://www.gotuning.com/product_info.php?fPath=S2000_3_138&products_id=810

http://www.gotuning.com/images/products/ASM_SRE_3-Way_JapanB_01.thumb_medium

WHY?! That's a super nice used car!

I understand you get what you paid for and the ASM is a baller company, but there is NO way you can justify FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for coilovers! Racing or not....

[ash7]

sure you can - if you want to have the most expensive coilovers in the world, money is not a problem...

...and you're driving a civic/honda whatever these are for

then these are the jokers for you.
-jonathan

[mocha latte cupcake]

i for see a set in your future :ninja: baller.

johnathan you stay outta this ZEAL MASTA!

[jdm-civic]

man for 15000 dollars just for those ur car better be able to take a vertical incline and ride like a freakin maglev train

[Elbow]

Those are not even close to being the most expensive.

[ATL_EG]

god i could buy 3 of my car for that much :screwy:

[redrumracer]

if it helps you out by a couple 10ths of a sec then it is worth it if your a professional racer.

[Homer Simpson]

Those are not even close to being the most expensive.


if it helps you out by a couple 10ths of a sec then it is worth it if your a professional racer.

When I posted this, I knew ya'll were gonna say something along those lines. :D

And, Mr. Pure JDM, there is no way I would invest in those! Too baller for me to comprehend.

[Scotsman]

Sooo, I was browsing around looking at stuff at school when I stumbled upon these coilovers :eek:

http://www.gotuning.com/product_info.php?fPath=S2000_3_138&products_id=810

http://www.gotuning.com/images/products/ASM_SRE_3-Way_JapanB_01.thumb_medium

WHY?! That super nice used car!

I understand you get what you paid for and the ASM is a baller company, but there is NO way you can justify FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for coilovers! Racing or not....those damn things better come with a glory hole:goodjob:

[OnURleft]

Probably about the cost of one shock on many race cars you see on T.V

[speedminded]

That ASM name is everywhere lol! Say's they're Sachs Performance which is ZF.
http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/company/organization/powertrain_suspension_components/zf_sre/zf_sre.html

Autobacs ASM Yokohoma...
http://autobacs-asm.jp/blog/asm/index.php
http://www.e-bacs.com/asm/about_asm.htm

The springs are HYPERCO though:
http://www.hypercoils.com/

[4DrTeg]

you could by another s2000 for that price..

[DieselNuts]

does it come w/free blow jobs for life? If so, then still not sold...

[EJ25RUN]

Some on here have already said it. Those things arn't even close to the price of real racing parts. Check Sachs and Ohlins if you think i'm kidding.

edit...


That ASM name is everywhere lol! Say's they're Sachs Performance which is ZF.
http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/company/organization/powertrain_suspension_components/zf_sre/zf_sre.html


Wow, i didn't even see your post before i had to throw Sachs name out.

[ash7]

johnathan you stay outta this ZEAL MASTA!


TODA MASTA these days man. I sold the Zeals to Edlee. :goodjob:

-jonathan

[oaznbeasto]

wow if you got the money why not

[DB4LYFE ™]

Gangsta ish..

~DB4LYFE

[GSRteg®]

They better cook, clean, dance, take a shower, was the car, make love to me, and produce some sort of income for me.

[cm7k24]

not gonna lie, those are pretty bad ass.

wouldn't buy them though, unless i had dumb amount of money to throw around

[hondachik]

Those bitches better come with a car too. And already installed.

[NOCLUE]

Those bitches better come with a car too. And already installed.

LOL hell ya :lmfao:

[OTG Signs]

How much are remote-reservoir Ohlins for a 996?

[Cool Cat Racing]

Makes me laugh to see all the people saying they're too expensive all drive Hondas. If you're build a real race car stuff like this becomes a normal expense. Look a set of Penske's, expensive for most club racers and even those are $7k and up. If you want to really race and not just drive your street car and act like a racer shit gets expensive very quick. No one who makes stuff like this ever intends for it to be on anything short of a high end race car.

[speedminded]

How much are remote-reservoir Ohlins for a 996?MSRP is around $1,700-1,800 each for the front and $1,000 to $1,100 for each rear. http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Parts/996SUSOHLINS.html

If you're really serious about it send me a PM with your budget, I've been looking at them for BMW's and might have a connection.

[Cool Cat Racing]

I have a connection as well. I'm a direct Ohlins dealer.

[Elbow]

I have a connection as well. I'm a direct Ohlins dealer.

Me too.

[Big Baller]

Thats about what a really nice set of race coilovers cost, if you want really expensive then you can spend that much on each corner.

[aaronfelipe]

Ordered.

[Master Shake]

man, if i pay 15k for my suspension, i better be able to take a 90 degree curve at 90mph.

[EJ25RUN]

man, if i pay 15k for my suspension, i better be able to take a 90 degree curve at 90mph.

A test....before you reread entire thread....are you a Honda owner?

[Master Shake]

A test....before you reread entire thread....are you a Honda owner?yea i own a honda, and looking for another car as well.

i didn't read the entire thread. just the first few posts.

[speedminded]

A test....before you reread entire thread....are you a Honda owner?I LOVE it when people put on springs or coil-overs and say, "I can take turns at 90mph now"! 90mph in reference to what? any turn anywhere? lol! Now if they compared their old speed to their new speed through said turn or if someone said a X speed through turn 12 at Road Atlanta on street tires then sure it would be understandable and makes sense.

[EJ25RUN]

I LOVE it when people put on springs or coil-overs and say, "I can take turns at 90mph now"! 90mph in reference to what? any turn anywhere? lol! Now if they compared their old speed to their new speed through said turn or if someone said a X speed through turn 12 at Road Atlanta on street tires then sure it would be understandable and makes sense.

He did say 90 mph in a 90 degree.

The only way i could do that in my STI is if the turn is as wide as an airport runway. And even then i'd hold my breath.

[Master Shake]

you must of not have got the point where the exaggerations comes in.
if i spend the money on a set of 15k coil overs, then they better do their job. but what makes those c/o so much better than say, a 2k set with adjustable struts?

saying both are running same wheels/tires on the same type of vehicle.

[EJ25RUN]

you must of not have got the point where the exaggerations comes in.
if i spend the money on a set of 15k coil overs, then they better do their job. but what makes those c/o so much better than say, a 2k set with adjustable struts?

saying both are running same wheels/tires on the same type of vehicle.

Who on here said money determines how good suspension components are?

The point we are trying to make is RACE SPEC components. Not some TEINS
a person buys to brag about and never but to actual use, can cost a ton.

They are plenty on Bilsteins that are very good value for money and they are no where near $15 grand more like a couple hundred dollars.

In the racing world, contracts between companies could result in a team running one set of $15 grand components only to run a set of $18k or $5k only a month later if it doesn't sink with their setup. The most expensive parts are always the once run under contract to certain teams. You typically "rent" them instead of buying them. In racing, you spend whatever you gotta spend to win. Sometimes it means buying the tip of the top, sometimes it doesn't.

Seriously, research what it would cost to build a top level race car. Not some bargain basement nonsense but once similar to what DAZN's team could prepare.

[Master Shake]

Who on here said money determines how good suspension components are?

The point we are trying to make is RACE SPEC components. Not some TEINS
a person buys to brag about and never but to actual use, can cost a ton.

They are plenty on Bilsteins that are very good value for money and they are no where near $15 grand more like a couple hundred dollars.

In the racing world, contracts between companies could result in a team running one set of $15 grand components only to run a set of $18k or $5k only a month later if it doesn't sink with their setup. The most expensive parts are always the once run under contract to certain teams. You typically "rent" them instead of buying them. In racing, you spend whatever you gotta spend to win. Sometimes it means buying the tip of the top, sometimes it doesn't.

Seriously, research what it would cost to build a top level race car. Not some bargain basement nonsense but once similar to what DAZN's team could prepare.but would it really call for 15k parts, to do what some 2k parts could do with the setup of the right components?
especially if both parts do exactly what they were designed to do, and could be adjusted to fit well with the other components to do as well as a top notch race car performance parts?

i mean, if you buy a high-dollar car, i would understand the usage of 15k for the parts. but not many people actually build a street car with parts that are anywhere near the range of the typical "race" or "track" car. well, at least nothing that the average person would build.

on the side note, how many people actually build a full, all out, race cars to compete with to a point where 15k suspension would be needed?

[Master Shake]

i mean NASCAR or the Formula 1 races, thats a completely different story, so i would know the 15k parts would be need to fit with the whole setup of the car. but i'm not talking about those type of cars, just your average, everyday nissan/honda and possible even some porsches.

[EJ25RUN]

but would it really call for 15k parts, to do what some 2k parts could do with the setup of the right components?
especially if both parts do exactly what they were designed to do, and could be adjusted to fit well with the other components to do as well as a top notch race car performance parts?

The answer to that question rests with the team, their budget, and more importantly which one their car works better with irregardless of price.

You have this 15K number in your head like its the greatest thing in the world. Alms race teams could be looking at numbers that go $50K+.

You have a street car mind frame to this. No one in their right mind would drive $15,000 coilovers on a daily driver. There's no need to.



i mean, if you buy a high-dollar car, i would understand the usage of 15k for the parts. but not many people actually build a street car with parts that are anywhere near the range of the typical "race" or "track" car. well, at least nothing that the average person would build.

And that is most certianly why these are not for the average person. I'd give a strange look to a person that is on a beginner budget buying these. Most times, race teams have suspension engineers from the manufactuer on site to help set up the part.

Again, think about the people that need to win. You also said earlier how a 15K part is silimlar to a 2k part. It is in ways and different in others. Many times the 15K comes from what the actual tech is worth and not the part itself. I would not be surprised if i heard the parts selling for 15K and the part being worth north of 20K and being sold at a loss just to get the part on the track.

(For that explanation, dont specifically think about the part from the OP.)




on the side note, how many people actually build a full, all out, race cars to compete with to a point where 15k suspension would be needed?

So few that this past winter, the economy dropped many championship winning teams from their series.

Racing is for the boys that want to play and pay hard for it. Don't forget that to get above the grassroots level as a driver, YOU ARE PAYING FOR YOUR SEAT.

An extreme example could be Jenson Button giving half his salery to Brawn GP this year to have a better chance at this years championship.


i mean NASCAR or the Formula 1 races, thats a completely different story, so i would know the 15k parts would be need to fit with the whole setup of the car. but i'm not talking about those type of cars, just your average, everyday nissan/honda and possible even some porsches.

As i said earlier. street cars that see the track every once in awhile don't need to have 15K parts.

The only times it matters is in a professional series with professional competition.

For the last time, those of us justifing 15K parts are not justifing the set in the op but we know the costs of building a top level competition car/bike.

[Master Shake]

The answer to that question rests with the team, their budget, and more importantly which one their car works better with irregardless of price.

You have this 15K number in your head like its the greatest thing in the world. Alms race teams could be looking at numbers that go $50K+.

You have a street car mind frame to this. No one in their right mind would drive $15,000 coilovers on a daily driver. There's no need to.



And that is most certianly why these are not for the average person. I'd give a strange look to a person that is on a beginner budget buying these. Most times, race teams have suspension engineers from the manufactuer on site to help set up the part.

Again, think about the people that need to win. You also said earlier how a 15K part is silimlar to a 2k part. It is in ways and different in others. Many times the 15K comes from what the actual tech is worth and not the part itself. I would not be surprised if i heard the parts selling for 15K and the part being worth north of 20K and being sold at a loss just to get the part on the track.

(For that explanation, dont specifically think about the part from the OP.)




So few that this past winter, the economy dropped many championship winning teams from their series.

Racing is for the boys that want to play and pay hard for it. Don't forget that to get above the grassroots level as a driver, YOU ARE PAYING FOR YOUR SEAT.

An extreme example could be Jenson Button giving half his salery to Brawn GP this year to have a better chance at this years championship.



As i said earlier. street cars that see the track every once in awhile don't need to have 15K parts.

The only times it matters is in a professional series with professional competition.

For the last time, those of us justifing 15K parts are not justifing the set in the op but we know the costs of building a top level competition car/bike.very well put, i was just using 15k just as a set point of reference of cost for the part. but i was also assuming that the only ones who would be purchasing these parts would be for actual race teams, and not the average consumer.

i know with a full out race car, the teams are gonna needs parts that are gonna have to go thru some extreme conditions, which, the reliability and perfomance of the parts, i'm sure can add up to be well over 15k, and like you said, even up to 50k+

but when i read the OP, i was thinking the person was trying to put parts like these onto your everyday car, which is not needed in any way, shape, or form of any sort. but more of mainly for some extremely high dollar, and outstanding perfomance machines, which are far from being made for the street.

[DinanM3atl]

I'd go with Moton :)

[speedminded]

very well put, i was just using 15k just as a set point of reference of cost for the part. but i was also assuming that the only ones who would be purchasing these parts would be for actual race teams, and not the average consumer.

i know with a full out race car, the teams are gonna needs parts that are gonna have to go thru some extreme conditions, which, the reliability and perfomance of the parts, i'm sure can add up to be well over 15k, and like you said, even up to 50k+

but when i read the OP, i was thinking the person was trying to put parts like these onto your everyday car, which is not needed in any way, shape, or form of any sort. but more of mainly for some extremely high dollar, and outstanding perfomance machines, which are far from being made for the street.The ironic part is you will rarely see a competitive S2000 on a track in the US, mainly because of the way they are classed.

The OP said, "but there is NO way you can justify FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for coilovers! Racing or not...." That's where he was incorrect. Granted that is a stretch for an S2k since they aren't a very competitive race car because of the classes they get put in here. Now a spec s2000 race would be an incredible event!! :ninja:

[Master Shake]

The ironic part is you will rarely see a competitive S2000 on a track in the US, mainly because of the way they are classed.

The OP said, "but there is NO way you can justify FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for coilovers! Racing or not...." That's where he was incorrect. Granted that is a stretch for an S2k since they aren't a very competitive race car because of the classes they get put in here. Now a spec s2000 race would be an incredible event!! :ninja:it is very justifiable for 15k coilovers, but not for a street car.

i guess the OP didn't take into consideration what kind of money it takes to build a GT500 series or F1 race car.

i absolutely LOVE s2k's, one of my all time fave cars, i do whatever i could to go see a spec s2k race. but with the right setup and build of the car, it would be made into a very respectable race car, just not many people have done it.

[Cool Cat Racing]

All the races I've been to and all the TT's I've been in I haven't seen an S2k competitive past what could still be used as a street car. None of them need coilovers like these, there are a few JDM cars that would be able to use something like these but I haven't seen any running here in the states.