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Julio
09-22-2005, 02:59 PM
when People Buy car with more power then a honda .. They start bashing on Hondas right way ?

ahh Honda sucks ahh Vtec sucks, fart cans .......

Almost "any" car out there is faster then a honda.

Or is it because theres actually faster Hondas (built) Then almost anything else out there?
Or is it because it has a huge aftermarket support?

Or is it because Most ricers love hondas?


So why is it? Why as soon as you buy a fast car... You start bashing on hondas?

Curious.

Xrated O.G.
09-22-2005, 03:00 PM
Hell I was bashing Honduhs when I owned a couple of them. Nothing new from me...LOL........

The Ren
09-22-2005, 03:01 PM
hey hey i love my honda..

Tiff-O-Bitties
09-22-2005, 03:01 PM
cause it's fun!

mocha latte cupcake
09-22-2005, 03:03 PM
most ricers own hondas.... but i bash them b/c i have that thing called Torque. But believe me i still got love and give respect where it is due.

4dmin
09-22-2005, 03:04 PM
when People Buy car with more power then a honda .. They start bashing on Hondas right way ?

ahh Honda sucks ahh Vtec sucks, fart cans .......

Almost "any" car out there is faster then a honda.

Or is it because theres actually faster Hondas (built) Then almost anything else out there?
Or is it because it has a huge aftermarket support?

Or is it because Most ricers love hondas?


So why is it? Why as soon as you buy a fast car... You start bashing on hondas?

Curious. com'on julio you know you want a dub :D

na its b/c most people buy a honda and don't do anything to it to make it fast, but then they buy a new car w/ more power and they have to talk about it...

still if you want FAST and CHEAP the only way to go is HONDA... i wish my vw was as inexpensive to work on as a civic... shit under 3k for a turbo on a honda and you can buy new motors left and right for them for cheap... shit i'm gonna put a honda in my dub and call it a day ;)

Julio
09-22-2005, 03:08 PM
Mods for hondas are expensive.. Regular maintance or regular wear and tear is not as expensive as other brands out there. (depending what you compare it to)

On the other hand,,,, One of the best cars out there are made by honda as far as durability and quality is not to shabby either.

The Ren
09-22-2005, 03:09 PM
I love my civic.. its my daily and reliable as hell.. The supra is my fun/weekend/show care only.. I will never dogs hondas I love em :D

Julio
09-22-2005, 03:10 PM
wow... I just saw a VTEC SUCKS avatar? why you changed it? bhwhahaha

The Ren
09-22-2005, 03:11 PM
I have been changing it for awhile now.. trying to figure out which one i like the best...

dereksi
09-22-2005, 03:12 PM
cause its cool to bash hondas :jerkit:

Speedm0(\)key
09-22-2005, 03:12 PM
i dont know anyone who bashes hondas, then again.. i dont hang out with idiots

Julio
09-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Your Civic Might last longer then your Supra.. lol

Lets see wich one breaks down 1st.. ( knock on wood)

But this would be a great example...

dereksi
09-22-2005, 03:13 PM
VTEC rules the world.

YokotaS13
09-22-2005, 03:14 PM
com'on julio you know you want a dub :D

na its b/c most people buy a honda and don't do anything to it to make it fast, but then they buy a new car w/ more power and they have to talk about it...

still if you want FAST and CHEAP the only way to go is HONDA... i wish my vw was as inexpensive to work on as a civic... shit under 3k for a turbo on a honda and you can buy new motors left and right for them for cheap... shit i'm gonna put a honda in my dub and call it a day ;)
wrong, DSM is cheapest bang for buck IMO

The Ren
09-22-2005, 03:14 PM
Shit I wouldnt doubt it.. I said my civic was reliable.. but it wont be mine much longer.. the boyfriend is buying it from me... But in all seriousness.. yes my civic is slower than my supra.. but i love my cars both the same..

Julio
09-22-2005, 03:16 PM
wrong, DSM is cheapest bang for buck IMO

SO How come you dont see more DSM's On the rd? Running at the tracks? Running at anything?


You dont see many...

The Ren
09-22-2005, 03:16 PM
DSM's- POS's... man talk about matience..

YokotaS13
09-22-2005, 03:19 PM
a car runs as well as its history. If you get a well taken care of DSM, then you will have a well runnign track car.

And the reason you dont see so many of them, poor routine maintenance, and people that dont know what they are doing lead to a large number of ricers, blowing up turbos and engines, overheating, tranny mihaps and need i go more.

But the fact is, for 3,000 i can be in the 12s reliably. With a honda, that same 3,000 (retail not with deal) will get you 13s questionably.
Ive seen it, witnessed, and helped on both hondas, and built many dsms for people on budgets. DSM is still the tried and true way to go.

And a turbo AWD or even FWD in good condition is a rare sight these days and fetch a pretty penny becuase they are worth it.

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:20 PM
I hate honduhs because of most honda owners,it isnt generally the car itself.

B16a2 Civic
09-22-2005, 03:21 PM
Hondas are fun...ya'll need to stop hating
dont see many people bashing ISP cars ...why...cause they are built with more power that what your probably driving.


Julio= tha truth






you bitches.

but im tired of my car :(, it was fun when i first started hookin it up

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:22 PM
SO How come you dont see more DSM's On the rd? Running at the tracks? Running at anything?


You dont see many...

Because there were alot less turbo much less AWD dsm's made then honda civics.;)

plus alot of people that have owned themhave destroyed them :(

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:23 PM
Hondas are fun...ya'll need to stop hating
dont see many people bashing ISP cars ...why...cause they are built with more power that what your probably driving.


Julio= tha truth






you bitches.

but im tired of my car :(, it was fun when i first started hookin it up

Peter and the other folks arent the honda drivers i hate :D

B16a2 Civic
09-22-2005, 03:25 PM
Peter and the other folks arent the honda drivers i hate :D


Lol but see Nick, i understand your answer cause i too hate most honda drivers cause they make the good ones look bad

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:27 PM
Lol but see Nick, i understand your answer cause i too hate most honda drivers cause they make the good ones look bad

Its just hard to be a cool normal person in a few of the car clicks that are out there.. honda is one of them. its like driving a mustang a few years ago... it just came with an image.

HyPer50
09-22-2005, 03:27 PM
still if you want FAST and CHEAP the only way to go is HONDA... i wish my vw was as inexpensive to work on as a civic... shit under 3k for a turbo on a honda and you can buy new motors left and right for them for cheap... shit i'm gonna put a honda in my dub and call it a day ;)

I'm gonna have to argue with ya there... Dollar for Dollar = 5.0 mustang = the cheapest to go fast. I've seen the prices on alot of the aftermarket parts on honda's, and 5.0 parts are alot cheaper, and usually give ya a bit more output = )

Anyways, on the topic.. I dont make fun of the average everyday Honda... I think Honda's (civics) are great for what they are, but i just love making fun of kids who throw a wing and a gay exhaust on there moms civic and saying they got a sports car... I just find that hilarious.

Jon00
09-22-2005, 03:30 PM
most ricers own hondas.... but i bash them b/c i have that thing called Torque. But believe me i still got love and give respect where it is due.

u got TQ lol didnt know that j/p

4dmin
09-22-2005, 03:32 PM
dollar for dollar hondas are still cheaper... you can get 500$ hondas all day long... 1500$ motor swap + 3000$ turbo = 5000$ 12sec car

i think the main difference than a DSM or a Mustang is honda are 100x more accessible... you can find them everywhere, as well as the parts, and the shops to work on them.

Jimmy B
09-22-2005, 03:39 PM
i like my 83 HP mazda b2200.. :) talk about some HP! wwooo hoo!!

Xrated O.G.
09-22-2005, 03:41 PM
i like my 83 HP mazda b2200.. :) talk about some HP! wwooo hoo!!



Yeah well dont go blasting through any sheetrock with all of that power...LOL>..

Jimmy B
09-22-2005, 03:43 PM
HAAHHAHHAAHA it would stop me in my tracks!!!

i was telling that story to someone the other day.. i drove down that road.. they almost didnt believe it! crazy times..

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:44 PM
Yeah well dont go blasting through any sheetrock with all of that power...LOL>..

focker sign on AIM on occasion ;)

HyPer50
09-22-2005, 03:44 PM
dollar for dollar hondas are still cheaper... you can get 500$ hondas all day long... 1500$ motor swap + 3000$ turbo = 5000$ 12sec car

i think the main difference than a DSM or a Mustang is honda are 100x more accessible... you can find them everywhere, as well as the parts, and the shops to work on them.

parts? hmmm.... 5.0 mustangs have one of the biggest aftermarkets out of ANY car. maybe not so much in exterior, but just about everyone makes 5.0 mods. Only reason I'd ever buy a Honda over a v8 would be gas prices, no other reason I could imagine.

Xrated O.G.
09-22-2005, 03:46 PM
focker sign on AIM on occasion ;)



Yes mam... I can now but its through my phone which is as slow as your VW... So take it easy on me with quick replies...

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:46 PM
parts? hmmm.... 5.0 mustangs have one of the biggest aftermarkets out of ANY car. maybe not so much in exterior, but just about everyone makes 5.0 mods. Only reason I'd ever buy a Honda over a v8 would be gas prices, no other reason I could imagine.

and a hondais more reliable.dont be a moron and argue that.. :)

Xrated O.G.
09-22-2005, 03:47 PM
focker sign on AIM on occasion ;)



Im signed on now focker...

Spyder
09-22-2005, 03:49 PM
Yes mam... I can now but its through my phone which is as slow as your VW... So take it easy on me with quick replies...

Damn that must be slow then!

HyPer50
09-22-2005, 03:50 PM
and a hondais more reliable.dont be a moron and argue that.. :)

Never had any problem with either one of mine... Seen some unreliable honda's in my shops as well = P But yes, in general I will give the "reliable" crown to imports, but thats not reason enough for me to buy one... when i've had pleny of domestics and "Fix or repair dailys" and they haven't given me any trouble.

Xrated O.G.
09-22-2005, 03:52 PM
HAAHHAHHAAHA it would stop me in my tracks!!!

i was telling that story to someone the other day.. i drove down that road.. they almost didnt believe it! crazy times..


Hell I still have a hard time believing it myself.... But that shit was back when we all had some GREAT times..... Damn I miss those days..

Scrappy
09-22-2005, 03:53 PM
I always have honda love! EG FO LYFE!

civic95
09-22-2005, 04:12 PM
Well if you want a fast car, and you buy a honda then your buying the wrong car (excluding the S2000, NSX, and TL). Unless you like the challenge in turning and economy car into something fast.

There are several reasons I have a civic. When I was in highschool I always liked the 5th gen coupes shape. It's easy for me to do all my own work, it's reliable, gets good MPG, parts are endless, they are easy to sell, and they are low emissions. I've made it faster, look better (IMO), and handle better than stock. It's fun for me. If I only cared about making a 10 sec. straight line beast I would of chose something else. All around it's fun, and most importantly it's paid for. I can't justify buying a car that depreciates $300-$500 dollars a month.

Anyway people that bash Hondas don't really understand what Hondas are designed for. It's not about being the fastest. Although if Honda wanted to throw everything else out, I'm sure they could be the fastest. But it would hurt sales. They are a business, and the #1 goal in a business is to make money. They know exactly what they are doing, and they are doing it as well as anyone else is. The day mitsubishi sells more cars than Honda is a day we'll never see in our lifetime.

Chuckster
09-22-2005, 04:38 PM
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Kevykev
09-22-2005, 05:29 PM
I can't hate on hondas i've owned like 7 of them total so i can't hate. Hondas are pretty convenient cars. The parts are relatively inexpensive and easily attainable.

No bashing here!

RandomGuy
09-22-2005, 05:38 PM
hell yeah those foxbodies= MAD CHEAP... Moreso than DSMS, at least from the people I know. DSMS and 5.0's id say as far as bang:buck ratio. Hondas still have a really high bang:buck ratio too, but DSMS and 5.0s = BANG.

AWD TURBO DSMs > HONDAS.... BUCK FOR BUCK.

JITB
09-22-2005, 06:33 PM
dollar for dollar hondas are still cheaper... you can get 500$ hondas all day long... 1500$ motor swap + 3000$ turbo = 5000$ 12sec car

i think the main difference than a DSM or a Mustang is honda are 100x more accessible... you can find them everywhere, as well as the parts, and the shops to work on them.

THe problem is the necessity to have to do a swap to make it be as quick as most cars that already come with good motors that make nice power. If u have to do a swap to a car to make it worth anythign at the track i cant mess with it. You can go alot faster with alot other cars than a honda for alot less...its been proven..hondas just popular.

It depends what your into and what u know, the longer u mess aroudn with a type of car the cheaper everythign gets. Ive been messin with mazdas, and for 500$ and 5k$ , id go get a 90-93 escort Gt/protege in some old ladies yard and bust ass all year. im sure dsm/mustang/honda guys can do the same.....i just wish more people would do what they want to do instead of doin what everyone else does.. i hate that

hondas aint for me, i dont think theres nothin left to do to them..

Shawn
09-22-2005, 06:59 PM
Honda is the best bang for the buck. I had a CRX, 700-car, 1000-LS swap, 1400- used turbo kit, 400-random shit=3500. Julio saw this car. I would stay right next to a modded 04 Cobra. Definetly the best bang for the buck, reliability wise, mod wise, everything

Leisa
09-22-2005, 07:51 PM
when People Buy car with more power then a honda .. They start bashing on Hondas right way ?

ahh Honda sucks ahh Vtec sucks, fart cans .......

Almost "any" car out there is faster then a honda.

Or is it because theres actually faster Hondas (built) Then almost anything else out there?
Or is it because it has a huge aftermarket support?

Or is it because Most ricers love hondas?


So why is it? Why as soon as you buy a fast car... You start bashing on hondas?

Curious.


I dont know.. fucking bastards.... :2up:

JITB
09-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Honda is the best bang for the buck. I had a CRX, 700-car, 1000-LS swap, 1400- used turbo kit, 400-random shit=3500. Julio saw this car. I would stay right next to a modded 04 Cobra. Definetly the best bang for the buck, reliability wise, mod wise, everything

but u can do the same to about 10 other cars minus the engine swap....and be faster or jsut as fast.

TranceDJ06
09-23-2005, 09:37 PM
HONDAS SUCK! ..hahaha j/k I got a teg so its sorta a honda name..;)

quickdodgeŽ
09-23-2005, 09:40 PM
I never really bashed on them. I just always laughed because everyone has one and no one is different about them. And most Honda owners think theirs is fast as hell, when.....well, you know. Later, QD.

twkg
09-23-2005, 09:55 PM
dont think i could ever hate hondas. every day that prelude puts a smile on my face lol.

mp5o
09-23-2005, 10:10 PM
Overall... Honda is a great company... So who cares what people say.

On a side note... No one mentioned how ugly some of those old dsm's are compared to the old rex's and eg's that are just as fast. ;)

WINDSOR
09-23-2005, 11:15 PM
AWD Dsms are the best bang for the buck car hands down. My car ran 13.7s with just a boost controller and a gutted cat. Thats one $20 mod. I've spent some more money on it (less then 250 bucks total) and have run 13.5@102 ish in hot weather. All it takes to run 12s in an AWD is a 16g turbo,2.5 inch turboback exhaust,boost controller,hacked maf,and some good gas and driving. I may actually put something other then the stock turbo on my 91 talon and actually put it in the 12s.

Julio
09-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Honda is the best bang for the buck. I had a CRX, 700-car, 1000-LS swap, 1400- used turbo kit, 400-random shit=3500. Julio saw this car. I would stay right next to a modded 04 Cobra. Definetly the best bang for the buck, reliability wise, mod wise, everything


That Ride was hot shit...

I hear good things about the old School DSM's... (early 90's) because after that They were terrible according to all the shit and reviews I read.. But what Do I know.


The 240 Mods supposdly are also pretty decent in price? I hear.. Not sure.. SR Swap make some good power also for the price...

But One thing about domestic cars.. they make power more easy I think.. I know a few cats with camaros and stang with not many Mods or money spend and are running 13's to high 12's...