2012.....

[§treet_§peed]

So when that day comes what will happen? I have watched and read a bunch of stuffed back by good sources. Some say Christ comes back. Some say the world ends. Some say world will go thru so many changes it will wipe us out. Some say nothing. What do you think? I believe something big will happen. Not really sure. But here lately i have been thinking alot about life in general. I wonder what people would say if God, A God, The God, Or whatever greater power that may be comes. I for one, don't know what i would do nor how i would react. Yes i know people having saying the end of time is here for many many many generations. I am to where i don't know what to believe. Every one has opinions as to what will happen. I for one, have a strong feeling something will happen. I don't know what it will be but something. Only time can tell. For as said before, time tells all stories.

[zimabog]

Whats going to happen:
A bunch of retarded people are going to act like its Y2k, stock up on food and get gas masks and stuff.

Then nothing will happen.

[§treet_§peed]

ok so may i ask what makes you so confident in your opinion?

[Paul]

ok so may i ask what makes you so confident in your opinion?

b/c GOD isn't real and the Mayan prophecy of 2012 means a great change was coming... that didn't mean the end of the world. people have been predicting the end of the world since time began; millions of years have past and we are still here, and their "Savior" is still dead.

don't drink the juice. :goodjob:

[seriousb13]

So when that day comes what will happen? I have watched and read a bunch of stuffed back by good sources. Some say Christ comes back. Some say the world ends. Some say world will go thru so many changes it will wipe us out. Some say nothing. What do you think? I believe something big will happen. Not really sure. But here lately i have been thinking alot about life in general. I wonder what people would say if God, A God, The God, Or whatever greater power that may be comes. I for one, don't know what i would do nor how i would react. Yes i know people having saying the end of time is here for many many many generations. I am to where i don't know what to believe. Every one has opinions as to what will happen. I for one, have a strong feeling something will happen. I don't know what it will be but something. Only time can tell. For as said before, time tells all stories.

:gay:

[Sir_Christopher]

ill be the one on new years ever beating off at 11:59 so i can be the first ot beat off in 2012..... and even if the world does end, atleast i got mines haha

[soul]

2012 is in alot of different text, there is only one certain thing that is going to happen, a pole shift, and what that can bring no one knows yet. If we want to get biblical, Jesus said" i will be with you till the end of the AGE" not the end of the world. 2012 is also the end of an age, Pisces (the fish/jesus) ushering in a new age auqeries*sp, the water bearer, represnting a great flood, not of actual water, but of knowledge,understanding,spirituality,war etc...

But like i said the only true thing we know will happen is a pole shift.... only time will tell

[ash7]

b/c GOD isn't real and the Mayan prophecy of 2012 means a great change was coming... that didn't mean the end of the world. people have been predicting the end of the world since time began; millions of years have past and we are still here, and their "Savior" is still dead.

don't drink the juice. :goodjob:

...could go so many different directions with this one... hmm

any credible evidence to contradict your opinion that i brought up would just yield even more such postings like this one...

I'll make better use of my time instead. :goodjob:

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At any rate, I'm not worried about the "end of the world" [oh nooz] - what happens, happens. For those who don't believe in any type of "savior"... must really be depressing to think about what happens when you die. Better safe than sorry.

:2cents:
-jonathan

[MR2DR]

b/c GOD isn't real and the Mayan prophecy of 2012 means a great change was coming...

Obama becomes leader of the world, spreading socialism to all.

[BanginJimmy]

I have been hearing alot of talk lately about a coming ice age. I think that would be pretty cool. Load up on your weapons and ammo now cause its going to be interesting.

[dorin48]

The only other certanty is an odd galactic alignment. Heres an image ----->

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/2012-galactic-alignment-sun-earth-milky-way.jpg

[Gutling]

so if the world ends 2012, does it start ending in the first time zone? then every hour another piece of the world ends? does it take into daylight savings? or leap years? maybe its already 2012 and we lost track of time somewhere

[chava_rx7]

so if the world ends 2012, does it start ending in the first time zone? then every hour another piece of the world ends? does it take into daylight savings? or leap years? maybe its already 2012 and we lost track of time somewhere

LoL!!!!
Good question tho.... :thinking: :thinking:

[soul]

it doesnt say in all the reference in multiple cultures(mayans,chinese,egyptians,muslims all have refrences to this event) that it would happen instantly at say 2:00pm 2012 dec 21, it says it will be a gradual increase, and 2012 brings a overflowing a amplifications of things to come, i must say in this sense look over the past hundred years or so, you can say it is getting gradually worse, this is also a refrence to the flood as i mentioned early has started already( technology( huge leaps in technology over the past hundred years),wisdom, war....) so eh time will tell, so its better to be open minded and thinking, than closed an ignorant

[§treet_§peed]

lol me myself. i don't know about God being real, but i do believe in there being a higher power. i didn't say i thought the world would end Paul. I said i believe something big will happen. don't know what but something. lol just reread it and you will see that. o and serisousb13 lick my nuts. ;)

[§treet_§peed]

and about Obama, i believe he will try to pull a big stunt like that.

[Paul]

...could go so many different directions with this one... hmm

any credible evidence to contradict your opinion that i brought up would just yield even more such postings like this one...

I'll make better use of my time instead. :goodjob:

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At any rate, I'm not worried about the "end of the world" [oh nooz] - what happens, happens. For those who don't believe in any type of "savior"... must really be depressing to think about what happens when you die. Better safe than sorry.

:2cents:
-jonathancredible evidence of what... Jesus? lol

your last statement is typical of those who obviously are too blinded to face reality and your mortality. i don't believe in heaven/hell as well as god(s) those are all man made concepts to fill the void for the weak. to counter your statement it must be depressing to feel so empty that you have make up fictional characters to make it through the day.

if the end of the world comes in my lifetime you will see me laughing.

[BobbyFresco]

credible evidence of what... Jesus? lol

your last statement is typical of those who obviously are too blinded to face reality and your mortality. i don't believe in heaven/hell as well as god(s) those are all man made concepts to fill the void for the weak. to counter your statement it must be depressing to feel so empty that you have make up fictional characters to make it through the day.

if the end of the world comes in my lifetime you will see me laughing.


Well said.

[Paul]

2012 is in alot of different text, there is only one certain thing that is going to happen, a pole shift, and what that can bring no one knows yet. If we want to get biblical, Jesus said" i will be with you till the end of the AGE" not the end of the world. 2012 is also the end of an age, Pisces (the fish/jesus) ushering in a new age auqeries*sp, the water bearer, represnting a great flood, not of actual water, but of knowledge,understanding,spirituality,war etc...

But like i said the only true thing we know will happen is a pole shift.... only time will tell

when we were in the Yukatan to see the Mayan temples the guides their explained that many believe that the Mayan's thought 2012 would mark the end of the world but thats isn't correct. Their culture had done similar things before and they would build a new temples once the time came. It was supposed to signify change.

[4dmin]

In Islam, Jesus(prophet) will come back to earth. But he will only come when all the signs are apparent. Disease, death, homo's, killing. literally things will be REAL bad. The antichrist will also be present. Those who will follow the antichrist will live a good live, which will be the wrong life. Those that will be against him will live in famine, and poverty and have nothing good. But God(the unkown almighty) will protect those that follow him from the antichrist. Jesus(prophet) will descend from the heavens the ride the world of the antichrist. Once this is done. The world will start The Judgement Day.

There are lots of things leading up to this final stage. Its really in depth. I will try to scan a few pages that are very similiar in the Bible, Quran, Torah that explains the last stages of the end of earth. It is from the Quran though. Its very interesting whether you believe it or not. Hopefully I remember.

[soul]

In Islam, Jesus(prophet) will come back to earth. But he will only come when all the signs are apparent. Disease, death, homo's, killing. literally things will be REAL bad. The antichrist will also be present. Those who will follow the antichrist will live a good live, which will be the wrong life. Those that will be against him will live in famine, and poverty and have nothing good. But God(the unkown almighty) will protect those that follow him from the antichrist. Jesus(prophet) will descend from the heavens the ride the world of the antichrist. Once this is done. The world will start The Judgement Day.

There are lots of things leading up to this final stage. Its really in depth. I will try to scan a few pages that are very similiar in the Bible, Quran, Torah that explains the last stages of the end of earth. It is from the Quran though. Its very interesting whether you believe it or not. Hopefully I remember.
the similarities between multiple cultures and religions is quit interesting, there almost all the same when desicted down, with minimal difference( names,location, etc) only time will tell tho

[ahabion]

coincidence? I think not... I wonder what the Native American's have passed down in their belief system. What I find interesting is that nearly all societies "back in the day" believed in a higher being and yet today we deny the existence altogether. We say that we're smarter today than man was hundreds or thousands of years ago, but dare I say we take some of the greatest minds (hundreds or thousands), drop them off into Egypt with nothing but the clothes on their back and maybe a knife, and tell them to construct a pyramid with with no assistance of the construction equipment we have today nor use technology to assist them (CAD programs, etc). I think we've actually taken a step back compared to our ancestors before us.

[§treet_§peed]

we have become a lot more stupid to the real world. hell, 96% of the world couldn't grow or kill their own food. I learned how to field dress animals when i was about 11. not that hard. but what most people lack today is common sense. you might be book smart beyond the rest of the world, but if you got throwed back in time, you couldn't save your ass from a pissed deer. YOU DON'T TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE TO BE SMART OR SURVIVE. today life is a lot easier for everyone. we say its so bad, but think about it. how many of us would like to work from sun up to sun down 7 days a week? manual labor, gather food, wood, planting your food, killing the animals, etc.

[alpine_aw11]

Just looking at the state the world is in right now, it's easy to see why a lot of people are buying into this. I think around that time, possibly later, there is going to be some significant event(war, revolution, leadership changes....could be anything) that will change the course of history. Of course I don't look at it from the perspective of religious zealots trying to scare people with it, but with such high tensions between nations intensifying(look at us, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, etc) some shit is bound to happen eventually.

[Thighs]

At any rate, I'm not worried about the "end of the world" [oh nooz] - what happens, happens. For those who don't believe in any type of "savior"... must really be depressing to think about what happens when you die. Better safe than sorry.

:2cents:
-jonathan

i FUCKING hate people with this philosophy about religion. as ALL religious texts say, you are there to serve (insert name of your favorite diety) and shall do so in a way that is unselfish. may be worded differently in some ways, but its there. you saying that its better to be safe than sorry is basically saying you only believe in what you do because no matter what, you want a backup plan for the afterlife. its not depressing to think about what happens when you die, because you die. nothing happens except dying. if theres any sort of afterlife, i like to beleive its something more spiritual than going to heaven or hell. im in no hurry to find out, but its very interesting to me because its one of the only things that science cannot and will never be able to explain. but you saying that its better to have some sort of faith in order to be safe rather than sorry is very selfish and ignorant sounding. if youre gonna believe in something, more power to you. if you believe for the wrong reasons, you need to rethink your faith.

[Thighs]

coincidence? I think not... I wonder what the Native American's have passed down in their belief system. What I find interesting is that nearly all societies "back in the day" believed in a higher being and yet today we deny the existence altogether. We say that we're smarter today than man was hundreds or thousands of years ago, but dare I say we take some of the greatest minds (hundreds or thousands), drop them off into Egypt with nothing but the clothes on their back and maybe a knife, and tell them to construct a pyramid with with no assistance of the construction equipment we have today nor use technology to assist them (CAD programs, etc). I think we've actually taken a step back compared to our ancestors before us.

1. drop man into POWERFUL position in ancient egypt.
2. insert slavery
3. ???
4. PYRAMID!!!

its not like anyone built a pyramid on their own. it takes less than 1/4 of the manpower to erect FAR more technically advanced and well-engineered structures. they did very well considering the resources they had, but today we can build a structure of 100000x the complexity and ingenuity with probably 1/10th of the manpower, time, etc.

not saying they didnt do VERY well with what they had. the engineering skills it took to get everything right is VERY impressive given the time period.

[zimabog]

religion is not an insurance policy

[Maniacc]

So when that day comes what will happen? I have watched and read a bunch of stuffed back by good sources. Some say Christ comes back. Some say the world ends. Some say world will go thru so many changes it will wipe us out. Some say nothing. What do you think? I believe something big will happen. Not really sure. But here lately i have been thinking alot about life in general. I wonder what people would say if God, A God, The God, Or whatever greater power that may be comes. I for one, don't know what i would do nor how i would react. Yes i know people having saying the end of time is here for many many many generations. I am to where i don't know what to believe. Every one has opinions as to what will happen. I for one, have a strong feeling something will happen. I don't know what it will be but something. Only time can tell. For as said before, time tells all stories.
The calender is inaccurate, the real forecast is October 2010.

Seriously though, in the year 2012 a bit of plaster will probaly fall off my ceiling onto the top of my head and I will look up and think - is that it?

Bottom line is this: This planet is millions upon millions of years old. We can fuck it up all we want, but it will surely outlast us. You know what's going to kill us all?

NOT the Sun
NOT the Asteroids
NOT the LHC
NOT Lucifer

You know what will kill us all? Us!
Our stupid fucking selves who think we can nuke who we want and cut down all the trees and dump shit into our waters. Once we're gone, then the earth will just swallow our remains up and the cycle will start all over again. You think that shit from the movies is made up?
It is in our nature to kill ourselves. Which is quite ironic since our main primal instinct is to procreate for the survival of the species.

[Starrfire]

Truly I'd rather Laugh with the "Sinners" than cry with the "saints"...

"Sinners" are people who live their lives, however they want, not relying on some invisible force to "guide" them through life. What was before all your large established religion? People have been around a lot longer than a couple of thousand years. And this as itself, depending on how said person, may or may not grant merit depending on how said person lives, thinks, how they treat their fellow man because they think it's right, not because someone said to, and if you don't you'll burn forever, whatever. I guess I'll find out just like the rest of you. Mainly because these "Saints" are closet hypocrites, and all these "Sinners" are just a way for the "Saints" to look down upon people, other religions, and to point the finger and say, "you are wrong, and as so, you will go to hell." Why, because they said so and apparently there MUST be a right religion, according to said hypocrites. Why make it a point to single out other religion, and say that they are wrong? I believe in an after life or sorts, but also believe that ALL religion is wrong. But hey, whatever makes you sleep at night...:yumyum:

[Gorilla Eg!]

why worry about it? bec. even if it will be the end its not like we could do anything about it anyway!

[SPOOLIN]

2012 is in alot of different text, there is only one certain thing that is going to happen, a pole shift, and what that can bring no one knows yet. If we want to get biblical, Jesus said" i will be with you till the end of the AGE" not the end of the world. 2012 is also the end of an age, Pisces (the fish/jesus) ushering in a new age auqeries*sp, the water bearer, represnting a great flood, not of actual water, but of knowledge,understanding,spirituality,war etc...

But like i said the only true thing we know will happen is a pole shift.... only time will tell

There is no evidence that a pole shift will happen on earth, because here its not on a regular schedule. At the time of dec 21, 2012, the SUN will reverse its magnetic poles, BUT that already has happened 2 or 3 times in your lifetime depending on how old you are on a very short cycle. The Sun will come between the earth and the center of the galaxy on that day as well...that already happens on a smaller scale for the past couple of years as it gets closer and closer, nothing has changed.


as for the pyramids, everyone knows that the predators came down to oversee the construction of those!!

[soul]

There is no evidence that a pole shift will happen on earth, because here its not on a regular schedule. At the time of dec 21, 2012, the SUN will reverse its magnetic poles, BUT that already has happened 2 or 3 times in your lifetime depending on how old you are on a very short cycle. The Sun will come between the earth and the center of the galaxy on that day as well...that already happens on a smaller scale for the past couple of years as it gets closer and closer, nothing has changed.


as for the pyramids, everyone knows that the predators came down to oversee the construction of those!!
thye have t train against the aliens

[Maniacc]

There is no evidence that a pole shift will happen on earth, because here its not on a regular schedule. At the time of dec 21, 2012, the SUN will reverse its magnetic poles, BUT that already has happened 2 or 3 times in your lifetime depending on how old you are on a very short cycle. The Sun will come between the earth and the center of the galaxy on that day as well...that already happens on a smaller scale for the past couple of years as it gets closer and closer, nothing has changed.


as for the pyramids, everyone knows that the predators came down to oversee the construction of those!!
This guy is correct! See for yourself - The Sun does a flip (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm)

This is more proof that a lot of IA fucks have no idea what 2012 or anything is actually about. They just see random bullshit videos and automatically assume shit and decide that it'll be a good idea to post up their 'facts' online only to end up looking like total fucking retards.

[Thighs]

^ x2.

i wanna be the first to post a thread about the END OF THE WORLD on whatever day you retards are freaking out about in 2012. in fact, im gonna stay up til 12:01 on the night of the 11th just so i can LOL at you guys. same with all the martial law and other conspiracy type bullshit.

[SL65AMG]

b/c GOD isn't real and the Mayan prophecy of 2012 means a great change was coming... that didn't mean the end of the world. people have been predicting the end of the world since time began; millions of years have past and we are still here, and their "Savior" is still dead.

don't drink the juice. :goodjob:


GASP!!!! God isnt real??? NO WAY

you mean ive been giving all my money to the church for nothing??? NOOOOO


haha..... the Church is the biggest business in the world.....



i agree with you on this Paul....Admin....whatever

[SPOOLIN]

lol, wonder how much money laundering goes on in a church.

[ahabion]

lol, wonder how much money laundering goes on in a church.

Depends on which church you go to. I'm sure that there are stories out there that people have taken/stolen money, I wouldn't doubt it. They are afterall, people. But like any money handling situations, there are safeguards, checks and balances and auditing that are put in place to try to minimize on anything of the sort.

Like I said, I'm sure it happens occassionally but I wouldn't generally say all churches launder money. (not saying you or anyone else said it, just sayin')

[green91]

At the time most of these 2012 prophecies were written, man still believed the world was flat.

[89BluIrocZ]

Truly I'd rather Laugh with the "Sinners" than cry with the "saints"...

"Sinners" are people who live their lives, however they want, not relying on some invisible force to "guide" them through life. What was before all your large established religion? People have been around a lot longer than a couple of thousand years. And this as itself, depending on how said person, may or may not grant merit depending on how said person lives, thinks, how they treat their fellow man because they think it's right, not because someone said to, and if you don't you'll burn forever, whatever. I guess I'll find out just like the rest of you. Mainly because these "Saints" are closet hypocrites, and all these "Sinners" are just a way for the "Saints" to look down upon people, other religions, and to point the finger and say, "you are wrong, and as so, you will go to hell." Why, because they said so and apparently there MUST be a right religion, according to said hypocrites. Why make it a point to single out other religion, and say that they are wrong? I believe in an after life or sorts, but also believe that ALL religion is wrong. But hey, whatever makes you sleep at night...:yumyum:

damn. i couldnt have said it better myself. i can go ahead and tell you exactly what will happen on that day if a god, the god, whoever comes back. every so called "saint" will get on their knees, and beg for forgiveness for the bad they have done, hell there will be a lot of people who find a religion that day to try and save themselves from whatever might follow their actions in life. i'm not religious. if it happens then damn i was wrong, but there is no sense in freaking out and living your life a certain way because a bedtime story someone made up to scare people into living right said so. you live life, everyone hass the ability to do right and at a certain age you have the ability to judge what is right//wrong. its up to you to make that choice and deal with any consequences that come from it. i agree i will be laughing to the end with the sinners because i will not be weak enough to fall to my knees and cry with the saints. i live my life my way. i will not be a hypocrit in my words.

[SPOOLIN]

At the time most of these 2012 prophecies were written, man still believed the world was flat.


good point, thank goodness we aren't falling into the abyss at the edge of the sea lol.

[Frög]

Not this shit again..

You read a lot of stuff backed by good sources? What are those? UFO.com or the bible..

[SPOOLIN]

I mean come on theres still people that really DO BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT.

ROFLCOPTERS. Check this FAQ out!!

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=acb33a5a17ecc2ab22c36aa45e5009 0a&topic=11211.0

[§treet_§peed]

welll no one ever said you had to live a perfect live to be a religious person. just saying to all those who say i'd rather live and laugh with the sinners than live a life like a christian or whatever. no one is perfect no matter what they say or want you to believe.

[§treet_§peed]

Not this shit again..

You read a lot of stuff backed by good sources? What are those? UFO.com or the bible.. how about you go suck my cock

[§treet_§peed]

but srsly. you don't think there are other things out there you narrow minded fuck

[krisjun2002]

If there is a god, it is said ol' YHVH forgives all (but 1 sin) when asked... so party until its time to take an eternal nap.... then if your worried... say your sorry and ask for forgiveness and climb those stairs

[preferredduck]

The only other certanty is an odd galactic alignment. Heres an image ----->

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/2012-galactic-alignment-sun-earth-milky-way.jpg

think of us being on the equator of earth here. it's hottoer on the equator=more energy from the direct sun to that point. well our galaxy gives off energy the same way. it takes 26,000 years for us to around our galaxy once. and now we are in the equator where there is more energy, radiation , and other forces at work. i think it will cause a poll shift b/c the sun already does it and scientists have notices these changes in it's patterns. it has been proven on our earth that it has happened before. there is a place in bolivia i think where rocks were cut in a way that our machines are not capable of, and this place is 17000 years old and has the same figures for head shape as easter isles. mankind might get screwed pretty badly by a pole shift. this would also explain global warming and why mars and other planets in our solar system are melting too.

[SPOOLIN]

hold up now if the sun is aligned like that, the energy or whatever we "already get from the center of the galaxy" will be blocked for that period of time. That's been covered before as well.

also, the sun has been aligning with the equator of the galaxy for the past 15 years and will continue to do so until about 2030 when it completly passes it. its just that in 2012 the center alignment will occur, but its plus or minus about a year also. lol

[preferredduck]

hold up now if the sun is aligned like that, the energy or whatever we "already get from the center of the galaxy" will be blocked for that period of time. That's been covered before as well.

also, the sun has been aligning with the equator of the galaxy for the past 15 years and will continue to do so until about 2030 when it completly passes it. its just that in 2012 the center alignment will occur, but its plus or minus about a year also. lol

it has not been directly lined up with the center of the galaxy, we have been in like the "tropics around the equator" for some time but not lined up. there will also be several other galaxies lined up with us at the same time. so nobody knows what will really happened.

[SPOOLIN]

it has not been directly lined up with the center of the galaxy, we have been in like the "tropics around the equator" for some time but not lined up. there will also be several other galaxies lined up with us at the same time. so nobody knows what will really happened.


you just told me exactly what i said in the post that you quoted of mine.

We're all going to turn in to Tranformers. Cybertron is coming!

[dabuilding]

i dont believe it my friend thinks its true but i think its another thing just like shit was supposed to go down in 2000

[SPOOLIN]

nah, 1999 was THE end lol

[RedEj8]

OMG people still think the world is flat?? lololol

They must not watch tv..or look at pics on the internet. Or the aids taking effect on their brains.

[SPOOLIN]

rofl, you gotta read the FAQ on that site man i fell outta my chair and people on there are hardcore. There is also some "RE'ers" on there too that fight there reason for the earth being round, then theres the "FE'ers" :) :) :)

[BallerDave04]

Alright everyone, check it. Here is the deal. If it's not what you believe then don't bash me please. I have been a Christian for a while but have recently started going to a church that has taught me much. It is a Charismatic church which freaked me out a bit at first because I was accustomed to Lutheran services. I continued to go there and The Spirit of God can be felt in this church. I have become closer to God and my faith is ever becoming stronger. If you are one of the people that think God is imaginary, I can tell you from experience that He is real and He is working in our lives. Not just my life, but yours as well. He wants you to stop persecuting Him. He loves you and wants you to walk with Him.

I have seen many blessings not just in my life, but also in the lives of others. By listening to God and being led by The Spirit you can accomplish much. We have become a country who rely on men to lead us and guide us. That is our first mistake. Christians are not all hypocrites. I really want to help others and I don't believe in using a scare tactic. I believe we should use Jesus' example in the Bible to minister to others. He was a man led by compassion for the poor and wounded. That is why He died for us all. He bears all of our sins, pains and griefs.

As for modern times, all of the stuff that happened in the New Testament of the Bible is still happening today. Healing, Prophecy, Miracles, they all still happen. Whether you believe it or not is your decision. Do I believe that something will happen in 2002? It's possible, the signs of the times point to it. When you live your life like God wants you to live it, it really doesn't matter. For all that don't believe me read Matthew 24. Do some studying and ask God what He thinks and what He wants for you.

Thanks,
-Dave

PM me if you would like.

[Thighs]

you know whats gonna happen when the sun lines up with the galactic equator? its gonna line up with the galactic equator.

street speed, you need to get out more.

[claybird]

In Islam, Jesus(prophet) will come back to earth. But he will only come when all the signs are apparent. Disease, death, homo's, killing. literally things will be REAL bad. The antichrist will also be present. Those who will follow the antichrist will live a good live, which will be the wrong life. Those that will be against him will live in famine, and poverty and have nothing good. But God(the unkown almighty) will protect those that follow him from the antichrist. Jesus(prophet) will descend from the heavens the ride the world of the antichrist. Once this is done. The world will start The Judgement Day.
Truest Fricken paragraph in this thread!!!!

[imbatman]

dude, everybody said the world would end on year 2000....what happened??!! some guys just didnt get laid thats all. and its still a normal day.

[Maniacc]

Alright everyone, check it. Here is the deal. If it's not what you believe then don't bash me please. I have been a Christian for a while but have recently started going to a church that has taught me much. It is a Charismatic church which freaked me out a bit at first because I was accustomed to Lutheran services. I continued to go there and The Spirit of God can be felt in this church. I have become closer to God and my faith is ever becoming stronger. If you are one of the people that think God is imaginary, I can tell you from experience that He is real and He is working in our lives. Not just my life, but yours as well. He wants you to stop persecuting Him. He loves you and wants you to walk with Him.

I have seen many blessings not just in my life, but also in the lives of others. By listening to God and being led by The Spirit you can accomplish much. We have become a country who rely on men to lead us and guide us. That is our first mistake. Christians are not all hypocrites. I really want to help others and I don't believe in using a scare tactic. I believe we should use Jesus' example in the Bible to minister to others. He was a man led by compassion for the poor and wounded. That is why He died for us all. He bears all of our sins, pains and griefs.

As for modern times, all of the stuff that happened in the New Testament of the Bible is still happening today. Healing, Prophecy, Miracles, they all still happen. Whether you believe it or not is your decision. Do I believe that something will happen in 2002? It's possible, the signs of the times point to it. When you live your life like God wants you to live it, it really doesn't matter. For all that don't believe me read Matthew 24. Do some studying and ask God what He thinks and what He wants for you.

Thanks,
-Dave

PM me if you would like.
Your post had nothing to do with 2012 just your point of view on religion.

Kinda pointless.

Here's mine. Lemme know what you think.


I get asked this question so many times. Why do you think the way you do, Maniac? Why don't you have faith? And I never care to explain myself but I think I will right now since I'm pretty fucking bored.

...

Okay, as a kid I would go to Sunday school as most of us latinos do. I was too young to exactly know the influence and power that was being slipped into my young, unwilling, and unknowing mind. This period I have little memory of, but this is when the bonds of religion make their biggest impact - when you are young and soaking up all of this 'information' they put in your head as 'fact' in an attempt to prevent questioning it afterward.

So many people just 'go along with it' because it's what they have done since they were a child. Don't get me wrong though. Sunday school was fun - during lunch break and recess that is haha. Oh, and flirting with all the girls. :p

So after a couple years went by I grew and continued feeling this way. After a while all these thoughts, and others, I came to the conclusion religion was not for me. Too many things didn't add up, and I just did not have this 'faith' that basically ignorantly tied together loose ends with a make believe bond. To further explain what I mean by that - there are many things that do not make sense, at all, in regards to the Bible, religion, God, etc. How are those things addressed? You just have to have faith, is what they say. So, faith is this invisible bond that puts together these loose ends, not answers, but faith. Two completely different things, but in religion they are looked at with the same purpose.

The longer I went with that the more I realized that God is simply an emotion.

Marinate on this for a min.

When things go bad - people turn to God.
When things go well - people praise God.
When someone is lost - they talk to God.
When someone is hopeful - they pray to God.
When someone is lonely or afraid - they talk to God.

It took me awhile to fully realize all of that, but the more I realized it, the faster the truth came to me. It all came down to this: God is simply an emotion one creates to deal with uncertainty. The human mind does not like leaving things at 'I don't know.' It's frustrating to try and come to terms that you literally do not know something. You can't guess, can't lean more to one side than the other - you just straight up do not know. And how do you deal with that? You put God in it's place. Instead of not knowing you just say God is responsible.

It's just a constant trend.

For serious things such as death it puts one at ease to actually trick themselves to thinking they DO know and it, of course, has to deal with God. It's much easier to say 'I will go to heaven when I die and meet God' than it is 'I have no idea what is going to happen when I die.'

For less serious things, such as being alone/going through hard times/etc, it's comforting to think there is something out there listening, so it again all deals with God. It is much easier to pray and talk to God with this notion that he is listening, than it is to sit in a room and admit to yourself that you have no one else to talk to.

Again, it's just such a trend. So many people and celebrities go to rehab or jail and come out with some huge religious experience, and it's like why? It's because they were alone, afraid, and in a bad position. It's much easier to believe God is there and will help you instead of facing the fact that you are a heroin junkie with no one to talk to in your room at a rehab clinic.

All that's left for my thoughts are to simply sum them up to such a simple and short message: God is an emotion. From this I can say: Man created God - not the other way around.

This is just how I think and view religion. All the smartass/sarcastic comments are just put there to keep things spicy. It's cool to have something - if it's God then good for you. But placing a truth stamp on the bible to me is just ridiculous. I don't like to hide my emotions when it comes to this so if I've offended some people with some of my posts' then all I can say is; grow the fuck up.

[SPOOLIN]

you know whats gonna happen when the sun lines up with the galactic equator? its gonna line up with the galactic equator.

street speed, you need to get out more.

exactly lol

[BallerDave04]

Sure, when people talk to God it makes them feel better. Most people don't take the time to listen. God will give you direction if that is what you are looking for. I was not the first to bring Spiritualism into it. I was simply telling you my experience. It hard to explain so much in just a short time. The Bible is not just a story. If you actually read it and study it you will realize that it is still relevant today. It is a guide for how we should live and how we should treat others. It is a guide for how we should live our lives.

All I can tell you is there is no way to express what I have witnessed. You would just have to experience yourselves. You all say that none of it is real. How do you explain one of my best friends being healed of HIV? How do you explain a baby being brought back to life after an hour of it being dead? Man can not explain it, it is all God's power. He can do anything if you have faith for it. These things happen everyday. I just want everyone to experience it for themselves.

[SPOOLIN]

quit talking about religion, this thread is about astronomical events. lol.

[BallerDave04]

This thread is in the Religion section. Move it or don't read it if you don't want to hear about it. 2012 has a lot to do with it anyway.

[DarwinsA32]

This thread is in the Religion section. Move it or don't read it if you don't want to hear about it. 2012 has a lot to do with it anyway.


so, all of you that believe the world will end and your magic jesus man will come save you, why the fuck continue living? what's the damn point if we're all dead in 3 years? fuck god, it's a damn lie, there is no one out there, no entity nothing. You're taking a dirt nap right next to my "heathen" ass.

http://fuckjesus.net/jesus_motivational_poster.jpg

[DarwinsA32]

this 2012 and the whole "end of the world" thing pisses me off, it's like people can't wait to die. not only that, they seem not to mind that the god that "LOVES" them can't wait to come to earth and raze it of life.

Some loving god.

[BallerDave04]

this 2012 and the whole "end of the world" thing pisses me off, it's like people can't wait to die. not only that, they seem not to mind that the god that "LOVES" them can't wait to come to earth and raze it of life.

Some loving god.

Dude, chill out a bit. You must not understand.

First, how do you just straight up tell me there is no God? Didn't you read my last post? How can you explain some of the things God does? It's something only God can do.

Second, the reason for the end of the world, maybe there is something better after we die. Did you ever think of that? Maybe you should think outside of the box a little. The end of this life for me means moving on to something great and beautiful. I'm not saying that I can't wait to die. I am using this life the best I can in service to God. God does love us and wants a relationship with us.

[preferredduck]

you just told me exactly what i said in the post that you quoted of mine.

We're all going to turn in to Tranformers. Cybertron is coming!

i was clarifying that it would not be an instant thing, if it's happening in our whole solar system does that mean us driving here is killing mars. lol i think mankind has had to start over many times, there was a show i saw recently of a 17000 year old village that the rock is so hard it has to be cut with diamond and we do not have the technology to create what they did that long ago, we cannot recreate it, thier explanation is aliens. also notice most ancient pyramids have featres that mimics our 9 planet solar system and things were built to scale for it in a way. even the giza pyramid is in a perfecrt lat/long line on the earth. it's even seen at easter island. it has been proven before that the polls on the earth shift, when we don't know, but it happens. we also know that the earth and galaxy go through several cycles so we don't know if the polls will shift now, or in 50000 years. it has also been proven the earth gets hot and cold while moving through these cycles, now global warming is blamed and we are looking at 30 new taxes for it, and on a natgeo article it said we needed more co2, which is what plants breathe.

[SPOOLIN]

i have no doubt that something or someone guided the people thousands of years ago to what they accomplished, think of star wars, they all drive around in hover crafts, and have light sabers, but yet they still live in stone huts LOL

[DarwinsA32]

Dude, chill out a bit. You must not understand.

First, how do you just straight up tell me there is no God? Didn't you read my last post? How can you explain some of the things God does? It's something only God can do.

Second, the reason for the end of the world, maybe there is something better after we die. Did you ever think of that? Maybe you should think outside of the box a little. The end of this life for me means moving on to something great and beautiful. I'm not saying that I can't wait to die. I am using this life the best I can in service to God. God does love us and wants a relationship with us.

What god has done? Let the world go to shit, terrible diseases to form, birth defects, war, pop music, plagues, evil. keep your god, and go ahead and serve your absent savior.

I'll wait till there is concrete evidence before i devote the only life i know exists for sure to something that has no evidence of being real.

[Maniacc]

The 2012 Enigma by David Wilcock (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908)

Although the guy looks like a complete faggot he's actually pretty smart.

[BallerDave04]

What god has done? Let the world go to shit, terrible diseases to form, birth defects, war, pop music, plagues, evil. keep your god, and go ahead and serve your absent savior.

I'll wait till there is concrete evidence before i devote the only life i know exists for sure to something that has no evidence of being real.


First, all evil comes from Satan. It says that in John 10:10. ALL good things come from God. If you would have read my post a couple of times ago you would have seen some examples of the awesome power of God. There is evidence of Him being real: Healing, Miracles, Prophecy, etc. Like I asked before, how can this be explained? Only by the power of God.

[preferredduck]

First, all evil comes from Satan. It says that in John 10:10. ALL good things come from God. If you would have read my post a couple of times ago you would have seen some examples of the awesome power of God. There is evidence of Him being real: Healing, Miracles, Prophecy, etc. Like I asked before, how can this be explained? Only by the power of God.

so did satan just put dinosar bones there to mess with us b/c that is the crap my ex wife's family used to say. more blood has been shed in history of man over christianity, and i fell it's a way to control the masses, well not so much anymore but back in the day it worked for sure.

[SPOOLIN]

so did satan just put dinosar bones there to mess with us b/c that is the crap my ex wife's family used to say. more blood has been shed in history of man over christianity, and i fell it's a way to control the masses, well not so much anymore but back in the day it worked for sure.

yeah i can't stand the people that just can't believe there was dinosaurs and that they and the earth was around 65ish million years ago. The proof is in the science there. They refuse the findings. I mean thats like refusing to believe that water is wet, and the sun is hot.

[Starrfire]

Also, good can be viewed differently from others peoples eyes. Like say if I was in a fire fight, and some rag head was shooting at me, and I cleaved his head off, I would think it as a good thing that I wasn't getting shot at, but it sure was bad in his eyes. Just an example. Not all good comes from this "God" you speak of, and to think some fuck head in hell is just scheming away all damn day, for all eternity, to make you have a bad test score, or a bad wreck, or make someone kick your ass because they don't like something small about you. Good and evil's lines are blurred, just like an opinion, just like I think you guys who believe the sun comes up because some celestial being wills it to be so, which is LUDACRIS!!!LOL!!!111!!!

[BallerDave04]

yeah i can't stand the people that just can't believe there was dinosaurs and that they and the earth was around 65ish million years ago. The proof is in the science there. They refuse the findings. I mean thats like refusing to believe that water is wet, and the sun is hot.

I don't deny that dinosaurs existed. It actually mentions existence of animals that fit the description of dinosaurs in the Bible. I happen to believe that Dinosaurs did exist. They were around with man. I assume they all died when God sent the flood. It would have been rather difficult to fit them all on the Ark, don't you all agree?

The way I see it, if dinosaurs existed soooo long ago, wouldn't their bones be buried deeper then we are finding them? Wouldn't they be like in the inner crust? Seems to me that they existed about the time of the creation, about 4000-6000 years ago. It only makes LOGICAL sense. The word Dinosaur was not invented until the 1800s. So it obviously would not be in the Bible. The Bible does use words such at tanniyn, which I believe is Greek for dragon, behemothas you probably know means a very large repilian animal and the word Leviathan. These word are actually in the Word of God. Crazy to think that man and "dinosaurs" lived at the same time isn't it?

Fact of the matter is, you can not disprove the existance of God. I have personally experienced Him in my life. Whether you believe it or not is your decision. I just pray that you would research a little bit more before you make that decision. If you don't decide to believe that you have a Savior that loves you, please don't bash it and say that He doesn't exist. You are ruining His blessings for other people. Any other questions, feel free to message me.

Thanks,
Dave

[BallerDave04]

Also, good can be viewed differently from others peoples eyes. Like say if I was in a fire fight, and some rag head was shooting at me, and I cleaved his head off, I would think it as a good thing that I wasn't getting shot at, but it sure was bad in his eyes. Just an example. Not all good comes from this "God" you speak of, and to think some fuck head in hell is just scheming away all damn day, for all eternity, to make you have a bad test score, or a bad wreck, or make someone kick your ass because they don't like something small about you. Good and evil's lines are blurred, just like an opinion, just like I think you guys who believe the sun comes up because some celestial being wills it to be so, which is LUDACRIS!!!LOL!!!111!!!:blah:

Good and evil are basically the same for people with a conscience. You would agree that killing is bad? Whether is it your enemy or someone you don't even know. It says in the Bible you pray for your enemies. Not to "cleave their head off." The fact of the matter is, if we would pray more we wouldn't be in situations where we would have to cleave someone's head off.

Another thing is there is some fuck head in hell just scheming away all day. The devil wants everyone to suffer and have a terrible life. Then He wants you to not believe that Jesus Christ paid the ultimate price for your sins so Satan can torment you for eternity. He is the prince of darkness. No good comes from him. All bad things come from the devil. All of the destruction in the world, all of the death, all the disease comes from the depths of hell.

Anyway, the truth is good and evil are blurred. The reason is because the devil has influenced the world soo much that we do not realize what we do sometimes. Example: Think about in the 80s. T.V. was much cleaner, not its acceptable to swear and have nudity on T.V. Now the government is thinking about making gay marriage ok... That's not good according to the Bible, but it is in the eyes of most Americans.

Fact of the matter is, the Bible should be our guide for Good and evil. The problem is the vision has been skewed.

[DarwinsA32]

First, all evil comes from Satan. It says that in John 10:10. ALL good things come from God. If you would have read my post a couple of times ago you would have seen some examples of the awesome power of God. There is evidence of Him being real: Healing, Miracles, Prophecy, etc. Like I asked before, how can this be explained? Only by the power of God.

Satan was a fallen angel cast out of heaven by god, therefore god is responsible for evil. FAIL!

All good things huh?

http://en.novayagazeta.ru/ai/article.517/pics.4.jpg

Tell him how cancer "which was created by god" is a good thing... oh wait you can't he died, let's all take a moment to thank god for Leukemia.

How about another one of god's miracles ?

http://atp.caeds.eng.uml.edu/ATP/pictures/pic18.jpg

Cerebral Palsy! That's a good one, thanks lord.


Fuck your jesus, you are ignorant because you refuse to acknowledge that by your logic god is responsible for all bad things too. Fuck you.


http://www.justourimages.com/main/images/humor/fuck%20god.jpg

[BallerDave04]

Hey brother, you still have not answered my question...How do you explain all the healings, miracles, etc? God didn't create sickness...All evil comes from Satan. He was the one that chose to rebel against God. God created free will. Satan Chose to fall away from being and angel. He was the one the caused us to fall into sin in the first place. He was the one that cause Cain to kill Abel. Who told you that cancer was created by God?

The Bible says we create with the words of our mouth. Somewhere along the way someone created cancer and other sicknesses. The good news? Jesus took 39 lashes on His back before He was crucified for you. Did you know that every sickness that is in existence today can be traced back to 39 root causes? The fact is that Jesus has already paid for our illnesses. Healing is real and has already happened. You just have to accept it and believe with faith that it will happen. Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that? It's God brother.

[BallerDave04]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[DarwinsA32]

Hey brother, you still have not answered my question...How do you explain all the healings, miracles, etc? God didn't create sickness...All evil comes from Satan. He was the one that chose to rebel against God. God created free will. Satan Chose to fall away from being and angel. He was the one the caused us to fall into sin in the first place. He was the one that cause Cain to kill Abel. Who told you that cancer was created by God?

The Bible says we create with the words of our mouth. Somewhere along the way someone created cancer and other sicknesses. The good news? Jesus took 39 lashes on His back before He was crucified for you. Did you know that every sickness that is in existence today can be traced back to 39 root causes? The fact is that Jesus has already paid for our illnesses. Healing is real and has already happened. You just have to accept it and believe with faith that it will happen. Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that? It's God brother.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A normal T-cell reading isn't unheard of with a good cocktail. It's modern medicine not your ghost man.

He was crucified for being a nutjob who claimed to be the savior of man and "Rex Judei" (king of the jews) a dumb fuckin thing to do given the time frame in which he chose to.

don't try to educate me with Old testament quotes, that book is a book of stories not to be literally translated like you're doing. I was raised catholic until 15 after my confirmation when it was my choice to follow or not. i chose not, because it's all bullshit.

I tell you what, when we both have cancer, you can take the bible and your crucifix, i'll take the Chemo and interferon. We'll see who wins.

[DarwinsA32]

haha
http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/30ryber.jpg

[BallerDave04]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A normal T-cell reading isn't unheard of with a good cocktail. It's modern medicine not your ghost man.

He was crucified for being a nutjob who claimed to be the savior of man and "Rex Judei" (king of the jews) a dumb fuckin thing to do given the time frame in which he chose to.

don't try to educate me with Old testament quotes, that book is a book of stories not to be literally translated like you're doing. I was raised catholic until 15 after my confirmation when it was my choice to follow or not. i chose not, because it's all bullshit.

I tell you what, when we both have cancer, you can take the bible and your crucifix, i'll take the Chemo and interferon. We'll see who wins.

I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.

I normal T cell count? He had HIV for 5 years, that's not just bull. He no longer has it. If modern medicine is your answer then why is there no cure?

[DarwinsA32]

I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.

I normal T cell count? He had HIV for 5 years, that's not just bull. He no longer has it. If modern medicine is your answer then why is there no cure?


Why don't you ask god?

[BallerDave04]

Why don't you ask god?

Dude, really...God is the cure.

[DarwinsA32]

Did god tell you yet?

Because you know, billions of people are waiting, if he's such a good god why the fuck can't he be so kind as to share with the ones he lets suffer.

[Starrfire]

Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that? It's God brother.

Because it progressed to AIDS now, or it was a false positive, or not HIV, it doesn't go away, and if it did, they need to get his DNA because his DNA would be quite valuable in the fight for a cure. BTW was your friend gay by any chance, or just had loose morals?

[BallerDave04]

That's our job brother. We must share the good news. There is a radical movement about to happen. Look around you.

If you don't have anything positive to say, please just keep your opinion to yourself. You are interfering with the work God has put on my life. If you aren't saying anything positive, it is automatically negative. The fact is, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. I know the truth and the truth is you can NEVER disprove that God exist. So keep trying if you wish to, it will be in vain.

I think a lot of people don't believe in God or have there indifferent opinions because they feel it justifies their actions. The ones that think this life is just supposed to be lived and then you die. There is more to it. I think those people just don't want to answer to a higher power. It's sad really. Being a Christian is not easy, I'm not gonna lie. It's hard overcoming temptations everyday. In the end, I know it's worth it. God shows His many blessings now and I will walk with Him after I pass. Makes life worth living knowing that I am doing something right. I live a life of serving others. Get right with the One that made you.

Have a good night,
Dave

[BallerDave04]

Because it progressed to AIDS now, or it was a false positive, or not HIV, it doesn't go away, and if it did, they need to get his DNA because his DNA would be quite valuable in the fight for a cure. BTW was your friend gay by any chance, or just had loose morals?

Had it for 5 years and was tested many times. Not a false negative. Tested many times after he was healed and its not there anymore. NO HIV or AIDS in his body. NOTHING is impossible with God.

[zimabog]

I'm just going to throw out some thoughts of mine to you, Dave, in a casual non-threatening way.



It would have been rather difficult to fit them [dinosaurs] all on the Ark...

Wouldn't it be rather difficult to fit most creatures on the ark in the firstplace? Also considering the fact that there are many many species of creature. And did Noah take plants onto the ark as well? Because a lot of plants will die if they are suspended underwater.



I have personally experienced Him in my life.

How? And how to do know its "Him"?



It says in the Bible you pray for your enemies.

How come in the Bible God says to do horrible things to people?



the Bible should be our guide for Good and evil.

Psalm 137:9

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Is that in the "guide"?



How do you explain all the healings, miracles, etc?


What healings, miracles? Specifically.
"Only what can happen, does happen."



Jesus took 39 lashes on His back before He was crucified for you.

how does that work?



Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that?


If you had HIV and now he doesn't, does that mean he has AIDS now? Because there the only documented cases of HIV curing is through use of bone marrow transplants, transfusions, heavy medicine, stem cells. Not god.



I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.

You can get cancer if you try hard enough.

[BallerDave04]

I'm just going to throw out some thoughts of mine to you, Dave, in a casual non-threatening way.


Wouldn't it be rather difficult to fit most creatures on the ark in the firstplace? Also considering the fact that there are many many species of creature. And did Noah take plants onto the ark as well? Because a lot of plants will die if they are suspended underwater.


How? And how to do know its "Him"?


How come in the Bible God says to do horrible things to people?


Psalm 137:9

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

Is that in the "guide"?



What healings, miracles? Specifically.
"Only what can happen, does happen."


how does that work?






You can get cancer if you try hard enough.

Ok, I was just joking about the dinosaurs on the Ark, I understand it wouldn't have happened like that. The dinosaurs probably died before that time. I can't say what happen for sure, I do know that these creatures were mentioned in the Bible.

How do I know it's God? I feel His presence. He makes me feel great. He does what He says He's going to do. He blesses the people that follow His direction. That's how I know.

You can't take the Bible out of context like that. If you look at the Psalm you are referring to I will direct you to Isaiah 13:16 which is referring to a prophecy about Babylon. You have to look at the Old Testament and New Testament a little different from one another. The OT is a very violent book. The NT is a guide for how we should live. Don't take the Bible out of context or you will get pwned.

The Healings and Miracles. The ones that my church experiences all the time. People being healed of sicknesses. Not having to take medicine anymore because God has healed them. Be being obedient He is blessing us.

"If you had HIV and now he doesn't, does that mean he has AIDS now? Because there the only documented cases of HIV curing is through use of bone marrow transplants, transfusions, heavy medicine, stem cells. Not god."

Like I said, He never had AIDS and doesn't now. He had HIV and doesn't now. He didn't have any transfusions or transplants. It was all God and His power to do the "impossible."

I won't get cancer, why would I want to try? That's not a very smart statement.

-Dave

[DarwinsA32]

You can't take the Bible out of context like that. If you look at the Psalm you are referring to I will direct you to Isaiah 13:16 which is referring to a prophecy about Babylon.

How convenient, a quote to contradict another.

Indicators of a delusion

(Munro, 1999)



The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of his psyche.
The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
Individuals who know the patient will observe that his belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.





You should try masturbating every once in a while.

[Starrfire]

This is getting out of hand, NOTHING can be proven, TARDS. But wishful thinking won't change anything for the better if say you have cancer.Yes, it can just go away. The human psyche is a very powerful tool but there and it will actually help someone pull out of a rut, and sickness and depression can also be evaded buy such, but don't press your luck. Your Congregational Holiness tail is a bit more simple minded than you think MR. Macon. And as for 2012, don't get your hopes up. I can't prove anything, but at the same time neither can you and I'm not expecting anything. Hope for the best but expect the worst.

[zimabog]

I can logically prove that Heaven/Hell can't exist without referring to anything related to religion or metaphysical (except for heaven/hell)

Also,
"I won't get cancer, why would I want to try? That's not a very smart statement."

But you must understand that you are physically capable of developing cancer. You most likely wont get it if you have no recent family history of it, and you keep your body clear of cancerous stuff. But you are capable of getting it. Don't tell me you can run naked through a highly radioactive area smoking cigars on a hot sunny day while drinking toxic liquids without getting cancer.

[Frög]

but srsly. you don't think there are other things out there you narrow minded fuck

How am I narrow-minded? I have lived in more countries than you have visited (if you have ever left the U.S.).. I have visited 5 countries in South America, 4 in Central America, at least half the countries in Europe and Asia, and this summer I am going to Tahiti..

Not believing in the ridiculous is narrow-minded? People said the world was going to end in 2000..

You believing that the world is going to end in 2012, believing that Aliens visit the earth in their Alien Spacecrafts, and ignoring common sense, logic, and science IS narrow-minded..

And in the quoted post, if you are referring to "other life forms out there" I already answered that question more than once.. Yes, there is life out there! Just 20+ million light years away.. How does that not click in your head? Do you grasp what 20+ million light years away means?

I don't think you do, because if you did, you wouldn't think aliens come visit earth in their Alien spacecrafts..

[preferredduck]

wow this is supposed to be about 2012, and as far as religion goes you can go back 20000 years and throughout times there have been several different saviors. they all have the same birth date, same number of deciples(astrology reference) dies, resurected blah blah bla. all of it is astrology references. the story of christ can also be found at the pyramids in eqypt, same story but his name aws horace. the moral of the story is all of them relate to the SUN. the sun is what brings us life and goes through cycles and a new cycle starts on dec 21st 2012. there have been many ancient civilizations with great technology and all of them have important messages about our SUN, but they all mysteriously vanished. you guys can stay here and wait for god, im gonna go make sure the fucks with all the knowledge don't start another bad cycle like we are in now. did you know that our presidents/rulers/kings/bankres bloodlines can be traced back to babylon, they have always been in power and there are symbols of this and the importance of the sun everywhere, we are just to stupid as a population to figure it out.

[preferredduck]

also dave and others, do you have a jesus fish on your car, if you do it stands for jesus is in the age of pisces, its amazing how it all points to the sun and stars.

[§treet_§peed]

quit talking about religion, this thread is about astronomical events. lol.lol thats what i intended the thread to be about. but of course everyone is gonna associate it with religion. cause i believe something is gonna happen. never did i once say anything about god. just said i think something is gonna happen. might be like day after tomorrow, who knows.

[§treet_§peed]

How am I narrow-minded? I have lived in more countries than you have visited (if you have ever left the U.S.).. I have visited 5 countries in South America, 4 in Central America, at least half the countries in Europe and Asia, and this summer I am going to Tahiti..

Not believing in the ridiculous is narrow-minded? People said the world was going to end in 2000..

You believing that the world is going to end in 2012, believing that Aliens visit the earth in their Alien Spacecrafts, and ignoring common sense, logic, and science IS narrow-minded..

And in the quoted post, if you are referring to "other life forms out there" I already answered that question more than once.. Yes, there is life out there! Just 20+ million light years away.. How does that not click in your head? Do you grasp what 20+ million light years away means?

I don't think you do, because if you did, you wouldn't think aliens come visit earth in their Alien spacecrafts..forgive me for being born without a silver and gold spoon up my ass. mommy and daddies money is nice to have i bet. I just thought 20 million light years means its the time it would take light to travel from a one place to another. you have no imagination is your problem. imagination is what created everything you know today jack ass.

[preferredduck]

yeah i can't stand the people that just can't believe there was dinosaurs and that they and the earth was around 65ish million years ago. The proof is in the science there. They refuse the findings. I mean thats like refusing to believe that water is wet, and the sun is hot.


btw dinosaurs are still alive today, they are just damn birds. the university of wisconsin stumbled on this a few years ago, but they can actually add protien to the dna while forming and the chicken has t-rex teeth. there is also a chicken in china that has the same feathers as a velociraptor. a chicken actually looks like a dinosuar while it's in the egg, they just evolved like every other creature on this planet. if you get a flu shot you believe in evolution, we are getting taller and bieng born without organs both, or one parent had removed.

[§treet_§peed]

btw dinosaurs are still alive today, they are just damn birds. the university of wisconsin stumbled on this a few years ago, but they can actually add protien to the dna while forming and the chicken has t-rex teeth. there is also a chicken in china that has the same feathers as a velociraptor. a chicken actually looks like a dinosuar while it's in the egg, they just evolved like every other creature on this planet. if you get a flu shot you believe in evolution, we are getting taller and bieng born without organs both, or one parent had removed.http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i4/dinosaurs.asp

[SPOOLIN]

lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!

A light year is the distance light travels in one year. Its a lot. LOL.

If something is going to happen, I don't believe its going to be of the light switch variety, i believe it will be something that we can adapt to as it happens. I feel for the people that are near major faults and such.

I knew birds are the descendants of dinosaurs.

[preferredduck]

http://hubpages.com/hub/Will-Man-Ever-See-a-Living-Breathing-Dinosaur-Again

photos of some funky chickens.

http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/Morality/Biology/GenesisTake2.htm

chickens with tails, embryos

http://biotechfiles.com/2008/06/theropod-raptors-the-retro-chicken-genome/

and the tooth buds. btw i liked the article you posted. ever watched monster quest? lol i don't think we know everything about our planet and i think the knowledge structure keeps us from knowing whats up

[preferredduck]

lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!

A light year is the distance light travels in one year. Its a lot. LOL.

If something is going to happen, I don't believe its going to be of the light switch variety, i believe it will be something that we can adapt to as it happens. I feel for the people that are near major faults and such.

I knew birds are the descendants of dinosaurs.

im with you on that every ancient culture says a time of dna evolution, etc, so we won't like just die instantly, has anybody seen the commercial for a star being seen in the sky day or night and that its the savior coming back, could be planet X instead. lol. no bs i really have seen that commercail on cnn.

[preferredduck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gkCTHvW0y0&eurl=http://jfthomas.typepad.com/thewordproject/2009/02/look-for-a-bright-star-shining-in-the-sky-night-and-day.html

this is what im talking about, its all major religions

[Frög]

lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!

LOL

[DarwinsA32]

also dave and others, do you have a jesus fish on your car, if you do it stands for jesus is in the age of pisces, its amazing how it all points to the sun and stars.

No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's

[preferredduck]

No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's

a lot of things from most religions, including ancient ones got there crap filled lies from astrology. like the birth dates, died and ressurected 3 days later, all relates to the winter solstice and the coming of spring. it's all based on the SUN. we can trace this back like thousands of years. as george carland said its the best bullshit story ever.

[ahabion]

No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's

Well at least acknowledging God is a start :goodjob:

The fish sign you see on people's cars was use as a message to other members of the early church.

[zimabog]

yes, it told other members that they had a car.

jk


if you ever watch the Travel Channel you would know that reptile tastes exactly like chicken.

[RL...]

2012 is in alot of different text, there is only one certain thing that is going to happen, a pole shift, and what that can bring no one knows yet. If we want to get biblical, Jesus said" i will be with you till the end of the AGE" not the end of the world. 2012 is also the end of an age, Pisces (the fish/jesus) ushering in a new age auqeries*sp, the water bearer, represnting a great flood, not of actual water, but of knowledge,understanding,spirituality,war etc...

But like i said the only true thing we know will happen is a pole shift.... only time will tell

very true, many of the bible's notions, prophecy's, stories, and even characters are all astrological personification/references. but the Age of aquarius doesn't start until about 2050. 2012 means nothing.

[§treet_§peed]

http://www.geocities.com/astrologyages/ageofaquarius.htm
http://www.mazzaroth.com/InsertSeven/AquariusStarChart.htm

[§treet_§peed]

http://www.aquarian-age.net/index.shtml

[DarwinsA32]

Istanbul... not Constantinople

[OnURleft]

I think the complexity behind this is to much to simply chat about over a computer screen. If your interested in it, go to a discussion group or talk to some philosophers. You'll learn a lot and I guarantee you'll have a new outlook if your not very familiar with the subject. I had a room mate who was quite smart and literally dropped out of school because all he did was research Myan philosophy. I have a feeling if he ever grows up he may change his habits so he can succeed with his education and balance the time he spends on his interests instead of constantly talking about it.
I am a very "by the fact" type of person, so his extremely open mind and my way of thinking brought together some great conversation..

What I can tell you is simple......
Based on the Myan calendar, what's "known" evidence and my beliefs, I think around the year 2012 there will be significant change. It may not be obvious, and probably not anything life threatening (for now), but something in the universe and the world is going to change that's going to alter how we view our current future. It probably won't affect us much, or our kids, or our kids kids but it may be something that'll eventually lead to a different Earth or a lack there of, maybe thousands of years from now. I don't believe in an "end of the world" or an "antichrist" or "global destruction" because there just isn't enough evidence to support it (that I know of). However, I do believe there may be a "change" that'll occur do to their amazingly successful studies in astronomy in the past and I think it's a theory that's reasonable to consider true.

[preferredduck]

I think the complexity behind this is to much to simply chat about over a computer screen. If your interested in it, go to a discussion group or talk to some philosophers. You'll learn a lot and I guarantee you'll have a new outlook if your not very familiar with the subject. I had a room mate who was quite smart and literally dropped out of school because all he did was research Myan philosophy. I have a feeling when he grows up he may change his habits so he can succeed in his education and balance the time he spends on his interests.
I am a very "by the fact" type of person, so his extremely open mind and my way of thinking brought together some great conversation..

What I can tell you is simple......
Based on the Myan calendar, what's "known" evidence and my beliefs, I think around the year 2012 there will be significant change. It may not be obvious, and probably not anything life threatening (for now), but something in the universe and the world is going to change that's going to alter how we view our current future. It probably won't affect us much, or our kids, or our kids kids but it may be something that'll eventually lead to a different Earth or a lack there of, maybe thousands of years from now. I don't believe in an "end of the world" or an "antichrist" or "global destruction" because there just isn't enough evidence to support it (that I know of). However, I do believe there may be a "change" that'll occur do to their amazingly successful studies in astronomy in the past and I think it's a theory that's reasonable to consider true.

i like your thoughtsw on that, very good. i dont think the earth is going to blow up and jesue is coming back but something is up. i noticed that throughout history several wars and other events were done a certain astrological times. hte universe has a pulse which is connected to us. we have seen the science behind the cycles of the earth and one thing that gets me in ancient civilizations just dissapeared but left us clues or what not. i keep an open mind b/c in my eyes thats the only way to be. i hate hard core cosed minded people that even if you have a valid point they cry BS, like extreme christians for example.. i laughed when i heard abt donations for bibles for iraq, big waste of $$ if you ask me. that and everything on the planet is made on energy, where does it come from and where does it go. next jehova's witness that comes to my house is gonna be told planet X is coming to get them. lol i love messing with some people. i will never tell someone what to believe in but throwing around theories never hurts either. after 15 yrs of these types of conversations(sometimes on LSD when younger) i keep an open mind on what people say, but i got annoyed at a few christians at athens tech who tried to ram it down my throat. you know according to new info given to the LEO's christians are actually labeled as a form of militia/domestic terrorist these days. good post man.

[RL...]

Nothing will happen. And if there is a catastrophe and the world ends, so be it. I am not afraid of death as it is inevitable. Although I do not wish to die, I merely accept it for whenever it should come for me.