The miata phase 2.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Well its finally time for the turbo to go on "Thunder." I'm doing quite a bit to deal with the heat both in the engine compartment and the rest of the car. Basically the new setup goes like this:
BEGi 3071 twin scroll turbo kit
Tial 38mm wastegate
Lots of DEI Gold foil heat shielding
3" stainless exhaust/DP all wrapped in DEI Header Wrap
Hydra Nemesis ECU with wideband
Springfield Dyno triple pass radiator
Synapse BOV
Begi short runner intake manifold
Flyin Miata Fuel rail
Flyin Miata cam gear
RC 750 injectors
Integral Cams billet steel custom ground turbo cams
16x8 Time Attacks with 245-45-16 Toyo R888's
Race On USA fender flares
ATI engine damper
Bethania Garage DOM roll cage
Ultra Shield Race seat with Halo
Cool Shirt Clubman driver cooling system
Main Engine Harness tuck
Lots of custom CCR goodness as well

It should be done probably next week and ready to head to Top Speed for its final tune and official dyno numbers. I'll be happy with anything north of 360whp but I'm hoping to break 400 on pump. Its first outing is the NASA RA event in March to see what it can do. Then I'm sure we'll have to change the rear end ratio if not the whole rear end since I'm sure it will run out of gear on the back straight which is only about 140mph. Here's some pics of the setup as its going together.
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[FlipKing]

DAMMMMN, nice miata. Do mine next for charity? lol

[scooby_snack]

Damn that's nice. You should sign up and post about it over on www.mx5atlanta.com :D

[Cool Cat Racing]

I have a profile over there. I may take it to the dyno day they're planning just to surprise a few people.

[redrumracer]

have you looked into the mazdaspeed racing gear set (http://miataroadster.com/mmd.html) 3.636 ratio

[Cool Cat Racing]

That's actually the one I was talking about. Right now I don't want to allow that kind of top speed till I can be sure the car will stay planted that fast. The car was never designed to go as fast as I'll be running it so I need to work up to those kinds of speeds. The car should be fine at the 140 the current gearing will allow and I can use that as a baseline to work from. The 3.6 gear will also help a lot since that kind of power will make the gears now seem pretty short.

[RotorNutFD3S]

Forged internals? Plans for coolant reroute?

[redrumracer]

I'd like to get those gears also, but right now there isn't any need for it with my stock car.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Forged internals? Plans for coolant reroute?
Nope, completely stock engine. J/K Its got Wiseco pistons and Carillo H-beam rods, ARP main/head studs, FM valvetrain, MLS head gasket, the works. I wasn't planning on running this kind of setup on a stock engine. I'm already running the Bell reroute with 180 Tstats in the front and rear housings so it pulls from the front and rear of the head for the most even flow possible. I've installed the 3.6 gears in several cars for better mileage but this will be the first time I did it for better performance. Its a great option with a 6 speed but I'll be keeping the stock 5 speed right now. I may change out to an MSM 6 speed or get the Quaife gearset if I frag this one. We'll have to see, my main concern right now is the PPF or the wings on the diff breaking first.

[RotorNutFD3S]

Gotcha. I was just hoping that this HP goal was not on OEM internals. lol
Sounds like a beast. Hope you do make it out to our dyno day.

[Cool Cat Racing]

This isn't my first rodeo with a Miata. I built the engine last summer and spent the rest of the year sorting out the aero and other cooling issues to insure that when the turbo went on I'd have things well in hand already. Now I just have to get it on track to start adjusting the suspension to compensate for all the changes. That will probably take ditching the Koni coilovers for some JIC TAR's but whatever. I'm still not sure the Wilwoods are going to keep up either but I think with a slightly more aggressive pad I'll be able to keep the brakes working, if not its back to the drawing board because those are the biggest ones available for a Miata.

[scooby_snack]

Definitely take this on the dyno, I would love to see it. I also like seeing how many of our members are currently viewing this thread at the bottom.

scooby_snack, RotorNutFD3S, Silver280zx, noodle, ftjandra, Roadster, Acro, metalman

[nickt93]

Wow - your build is stout. Nice work! Looking forward to seeing the car.

[SpecV_Scott]

Awesome.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Thanks fellas. The cams are in so the top end comes apart tomorrow so I can install/degree those and then the last bits of motor stuff can go on and see if it still starts. Then its on to the cage and fender flares.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Well here's some of the progress from the last few days. I have to remake the NASCAR bars since they come in too far and hit the new seat. The motor doesn't want to run with the new computer but I'll see what's up with that tomorrow. Its been one issue after another since all these parts weren't really designed to work together. Of course I like it when the cams have too much lift and I have to clearance the head more. That's a good feeling. lol And yea its a race car with a DVD based component stereo.
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Pile of useless shit.
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High tech seat spacer to set the height.
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[Cool Cat Racing]

So its ready to drive and ready for some light testing before it hits the dyno next week. Here's the final pics of how it looks. I've still got to cut the baffling for the radiator and some ducting for the intercooler but otherwise its done.
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[DVSRX-7]

Looks fucking sick! Doesn't a FC rearend fit a MX-5? If u might need one pm me, but either way nice looking Mazda..

[Cool Cat Racing]

Well got back from Top Speed a bit ago and after a long day I'm a little disappointed but happy. For some reason the alternator got an internal short and killed our dyno session since we couldn't maintain solid voltage anymore. Got it all smoothed out and perfect running on 14psi and that netted 330whp and 250wtq. The best part is it had 243wtq at 4800rpm and nearly flat all the way to 7k when it started to taper to about 235 at redline. I'm running the redline up from 7500 to 8k since the power barely even began tapering at redline. It made peak hp at the soft redline so there's more to make and its breathing better than any of us expected. It mad 280whp on 12psi and 330 on 14 psi with no major changes to the map. I'm shooting for 19psi but that will have to wait till next time. With those numbers my goal of near 400whp won't be hard with 19psi. I'll post the actual graph when I either scan the printout or I get the email from Doug with the files on it. Gonna drive it tomorrow and see what it feels like. Power is very linear from 3500rpm when it really starts boosting all the way to 7500 so it should be fairly easy to drive even with that kind of power. And yea the FC rear ends fit but if I change it I'll be using a Cadillac CTS rear end since I want to kill the PPF as well.

[redrumracer]

anymore updates on it?

not sure if your cam grinds are secret or what not but what kind of grind do you have? I was looking at there cams also, but I find it hard to spend that much money on a set of cams.

[Cool Cat Racing]

The cams we're using aren't listed on the site but they're standard grinds. We're using the billet steel blanks but the offer cast versions as well. I had limited options with the cams we needed since the stock cams wouldn't run anywhere near the power I'm shooting for. As for the money, if you want the power you've got to pay for it.

[redrumracer]

The cams we're using aren't listed on the site but they're standard grinds. We're using the billet steel blanks but the offer cast versions as well. I had limited options with the cams we needed since the stock cams wouldn't run anywhere near the power I'm shooting for. As for the money, if you want the power you've got to pay for it.
Yea I know you gotta pay to play. When I first found those cams they were right under $600 now they are $700+. Might need to get a pair before they decide to raise there prices yet again. Then my luck would be that they would lower the price.

[Cool Cat Racing]

The cast cams are cheaper than that. Give them a call since I learned much of what they offer isn't listed on the website.

[Cool Cat Racing]

So here's the final numbers. Not bad for a girl car. lol
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[redrumracer]

wow good numbers. think i can get a ride in it if your able to oneday when im arount macon? lol cant hurt to ask.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Sure, it will probably spending most of its time chilling at the shop since none of us have garage space for it.

[redrumracer]

Im still in awe at this build, combine your motor/hard top/wheels plus my turbo and car, and dopplegangers roll bar and that would be what I want lol

and I'll deff stop by when I head down that way for my finals.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Well it just got even better. We popped the motor in turn 3 at Roebling running nearly 100mph and 1.24g's. So now the new motor is getting some stainless valves, Huffaker 9qt dry sump system, 3qt Accusump, some new pistons, knife edged crank, tubular steel control arms, and some AFCO coilovers. I think I'll make my speed goals at RA since it was running just under 150mph on Roeblings straight and that was with it only coming off turn 9 at 100mph. Still gotta get used to the new traction abilities and then it should be able to swing 120mph exit speeds.

[redrumracer]

why did it pop? oil starvation?

[matthewAPM]

What size wheels and tires are you running?

[JITB]

any old parts u trying to get rid of, off the motor?

[redrumracer]

any old parts u trying to get rid of, off the motor?
lol that was going to be my next question once he responded.

[JITB]

lol that was going to be my next question once he responded.

Im at the mercy of the miata guys.... my ole outdated BP needs some miata mechanics.. :(

I need a head/pistons.. :ninja:

[redrumracer]

Im at the mercy of the miata guys.... my ole outdated BP needs some miata mechanics.. :(

I need a head/pistons.. :ninja:
well im just in need of pistons, rods, valve springs, cams, t manifold, etc, etc, etc. already have a decent head.

[Cool Cat Racing]

It starved for a second and at nearly 8k it didn't take long. I have a set of Wiseco 9:1 pistons that is coming off with light normal wear but since its apart I'm just putting new ones in it. I also have a good set of used 99 pistons/rods, a set of stock valves, oil pan with turbo drain/nearly new pump, ACT Xtreme organic disc (Barely used), probably selling the 99 head/intake, stock injectors/rail, I also have a good 95 complete engine and trans. Matt, we're running 16x8's with 245-45-16 Toyo R888's.

[FlipKing]

Lol, if I had the cash I wouldnt mind the 95 motor and tranny. Nothing like having a spare.lol

[mocha latte cupcake]

roebling road claims another oil starved victim. sorry to hear it guys. can't wait for the come back tour though :goodjob:

[SampaGuy]

This car is fucking awesome. I wish I had money to spend on mine.

[matthewAPM]

It starved for a second and at nearly 8k it didn't take long. I have a set of Wiseco 9:1 pistons that is coming off with light normal wear but since its apart I'm just putting new ones in it. I also have a good set of used 99 pistons/rods, a set of stock valves, oil pan with turbo drain/nearly new pump, ACT Xtreme organic disc (Barely used), probably selling the 99 head/intake, stock injectors/rail, I also have a good 95 complete engine and trans. Matt, we're running 16x8's with 245-45-16 Toyo R888's.

you should be able to stuff a little more tire under for sure. Some of the CSP guys ran 265s at Nats last year

[JITB]

It starved for a second and at nearly 8k it didn't take long. I have a set of Wiseco 9:1 pistons that is coming off with light normal wear but since its apart I'm just putting new ones in it. I also have a good set of used 99 pistons/rods, a set of stock valves, oil pan with turbo drain/nearly new pump, ACT Xtreme organic disc (Barely used), probably selling the 99 head/intake, stock injectors/rail, I also have a good 95 complete engine and trans. Matt, we're running 16x8's with 245-45-16 Toyo R888's.


id be interested in the 99 head/piston/rods/valves, comp in the 99 pistons are 9:5?

[redrumracer]

id be interested in the 99 head/piston/rods/valves, comp in the 99 pistons are 9:5?
stock 99 pistons are 9.5 comp ratio and earlier na's were 9.0.

[Cool Cat Racing]

you should be able to stuff a little more tire under for sure. Some of the CSP guys ran 265s at Nats last year
Once I go full slicks its getting a set of 949 racing 6ULR's 15x9 and some Hoosier R6 275's. Right now I want to be able to run it wet/dry as it is and even drive it to the track if I feel like it. As I get everything dialed in and comfortable with the speeds it will achieve now I'll worry about going faster. I also want to make sure everything is up to the task and finish all the suspension before I push anything as hard as tires that size will do. I'll be perfectly honest, it scared me a bit as it is right now, so I don't need the car to go any faster till my nuts get a bit bigger. I don't see it ever really running autox much anymore, well anything past our local events. As it is even on 12psi it will take TOD pretty easily. My focus now is to get it stable at 150+ and work the aero to keep it planted. Until I can make sure its safe and stable I don't care if it will go any faster than it can right now.

[matthewAPM]

That seems like not a lot of wheel for that tire. I would try a set of kodiak (sp?) or something in a 16x9.5.

What suspension setup are you running? rates etc.

[Cool Cat Racing]

I had thought about running Kodiaks but Hoosier makes the size I want in a 15 that fits pretty well on the 6UL's. Right now we're running the same Koni coilovers that were on it and the spring rates are hopelessly inadeqate. The new parts will be AFCO coilovers with around 750/575 rates and some 949racing tubular control arms.

[matthewAPM]

I had thought about running Kodiaks but Hoosier makes the size I want in a 15 that fits pretty well on the 6UL's. Right now we're running the same Koni coilovers that were on it and the spring rates are hopelessly inadeqate. The new parts will be AFCO coilovers with around 750/575 rates and some 949racing tubular control arms.

Im guess everything poly or alum?

I have just never liked stuffing tires onto the wheel as you lose predictably in the car front the sidewall flex.

What are you doing swaybar wise?

Also, have you considered trying some motons?

[Cool Cat Racing]

I've thought about some Motons and some Koni Race coilovers. I still haven't ordered the coilovers since I'm not totally sure which I want quite yet. The sway bars are currently a hollow 1.25" and a solid 5/8th rear. Gonna keep them till I can see exactly what will work best. The 275's aren't too stuffed, nearly even sidewall, the 245's are a little stuffed, would prefer them on a 8.5 or a 9 but they work for the testing I wanted them for. All the bushings right now are Mazda Comp bushings but the new control arms use a pretty high durometer poly bushings. I'm going to try those and see if I need Delrin. Emilio at 949 has run them on some serious cars and doesn't feel Delrin is necessary since these are a good bit stiffer than standard poly bushings.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Im at the mercy of the miata guys.... my ole outdated BP needs some miata mechanics.. :(

I need a head/pistons.. :ninja:
Will the 99 miata head swap into a transverse setup? I don't really follow much on that end so I'm not sure. I know most early 1.8 things do but I don't know what on the NB's transfers as well. I've got some 1.6 heads and the early 1.8 head as well but I'd rather sell the whole motor for that setup. If you want the stock pistons I'll sell those for $60 with the rods. They've got about 27k miles on them.

[matthewAPM]

I've thought about some Motons and some Koni Race coilovers. I still haven't ordered the coilovers since I'm not totally sure which I want quite yet. The sway bars are currently a hollow 1.25" and a solid 5/8th rear. Gonna keep them till I can see exactly what will work best. The 275's aren't too stuffed, nearly even sidewall, the 245's are a little stuffed, would prefer them on a 8.5 or a 9 but they work for the testing I wanted them for. All the bushings right now are Mazda Comp bushings but the new control arms use a pretty high durometer poly bushings. I'm going to try those and see if I need Delrin. Emilio at 949 has run them on some serious cars and doesn't feel Delrin is necessary since these are a good bit stiffer than standard poly bushings.

Well if you have a lot of on track experience, I would go with the motons. If not, just get the koni's because most of your time will be spent on learning the car.

So im guess that is the racing beat front bar? Adjustable endlinks?

I would try to run a bigger rear spring and no rear bar. This will help the car get off the corners and a little more feel mid corner

[JITB]

Will the 99 miata head swap into a transverse setup? I don't really follow much on that end so I'm not sure. I know most early 1.8 things do but I don't know what on the NB's transfers as well. I've got some 1.6 heads and the early 1.8 head as well but I'd rather sell the whole motor for that setup. If you want the stock pistons I'll sell those for $60 with the rods. They've got about 27k miles on them.

yea it will swap over fine... dont need the early ones there no different, i want the 99-00.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Well if you have a lot of on track experience, I would go with the motons. If not, just get the koni's because most of your time will be spent on learning the car.

So im guess that is the racing beat front bar? Adjustable endlinks?

I would try to run a bigger rear spring and no rear bar. This will help the car get off the corners and a little more feel mid corner
I'd planned on removing the rear bar anyways. Even now its a little tight in the rear and I know that with stiff enough rear springs it would just slide everywhere.

[Cool Cat Racing]

yea it will swap over fine... dont need the early ones there no different, i want the 99-00.
I sold the one I had for $630 but I'll have another setup pretty soon from another car. Probably sell it a bit cheaper since its got a few more miles on it, but still under 12k.