Head bolt and ecu questions????

[egibbs123]

Pulled the head off my b16a2 motor today. I was wondering if you can reuse the head bolts or if you have to get new ones. Also will a b16a2 ecu run a b18b1 head?

[Barefoot]

Pulled the head off my b16a2 motor today. I was wondering if you can reuse the head bolts or if you have to get new ones. Also will a b16a2 ecu run a b18b1 head?honda bolts are torque to yield so they stretch with when torque them. so that is a negative on reuse. it will but not for long. ull get CELs do to the missing sensor vtec motor have and nons dont. an your fuel map will be way off which is bad.

[Tech5]

I have reused these headbolts many times without any issues.....I wouldnt replace them but thats me!

If it was my car I will resuse them....Customers car gets new ones so they cant come back an say anything ....


ECU>? your trying to install a B18b1 head on your B16a2 block?

[Romeo]

ECU>? your trying to install a B18b1 head on your B16a2 block?
I think he's doing it backwards. Lol.:lmfao:

[Tech5]

lol sounds like it

[egibbs123]

my b16 head is bad... just had the b18b laying around in my garage. Trying to find the cheapest fix for now just so i can get back on the road....

[Barefoot]

my b16 head is bad... just had the b18b laying around in my garage. Trying to find the cheapest fix for now just so i can get back on the road....lol smalls i thought that was a typo in the OP. the easy and cheapest is to get another b16 head.

[Tech5]

lol smalls i thought was a typo in the OP. the easy and cheapest is to get another b16 head.



What is wrong with his head? might be a block issue

[Barefoot]

What is wrong with his head? might be a block issuelol i dont know. this was all the info i had to go on.

my b16 head is bad... no details FTW

[Grimm Reeper]

Shit how much you wanna get rid of the head for since it's fawk'd lol or :thinking:

[Barefoot]

Shit how much you wanna get rid of the head for since it's fawk'd lol or :thinking:good question $50

[Grimm Reeper]

good question $50

lol if it's not too bad :D it's SOLD :lmfao:

[egibbs123]

yeah prob gonna just get a new b16 head.... ill sell you the b18b1 motor for the right price....

[ash7]

I'm with Tech5 on this one.

Currently running reused head bolts on my setup without a single issue. I just inspected/cleaned the threads of each before adding a tad of anti-seize to each as well as running a tap through the block threads to clean those jokers out too. I also made sure to mark each bolt so it went back into exactly the same place it was in before.

-jonathan

[Tech5]

I'm with Tech5 on this one.

Currently running reused head bolts on my setup without a single issue. I just inspected/cleaned the threads of each before adding a tad of anti-seize to each as well as running a tap through the block threads to clean those jokers out too. I also made sure to mark each bolt so it went back into exactly the same place it was in before.

-jonathan


AND!!!!



Dip them in Oil before installing them"

[ash7]

AND!!!!



Dip them in Oil before installing them"

that's what the anti-seize was for ;)

...i didn't do the oil though... "whoops?"
-jonathan

[Tech5]

that's what the anti-seize was for ;)

...i didn't do the oil though... "whoops?"
-jonathan

I never use Anti - Seize I use NEW oil and DIP them!

[Barefoot]

oil all

[ash7]

I never use Anti - Seize I use NEW oil and DIP them!

dang, well... too late to cry over spilled milk. It's holding together fine.

...anti-seize is an old airforce crew chief habit i guess... we practically brushed our teeth with that stuff.
-jonathan

[egibbs123]

all keep this in mind that you for your input....

[DirtyMechanic]

I never use Anti - Seize I use NEW oil and DIP them!


moly is better than oil by FAR!!!! fyi


lol anti-seize or moly-lube. because i would never ever use your normal anti-seize for critical fasteners. Moly is by far the best and really the only thing to use on a critical fastener, so you make sure you get the correct tq and angle of the bolt.




oh and a little something interesting for you techy type people
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/2343/threaded_fasteners_torquetoyield_and_torquetoangle .aspx

[im_hung]

I have reused these headbolts many times without any issues.....I wouldnt replace them but thats me!

If it was my car I will resuse them....Customers car gets new ones so they cant come back an say anything ....


ECU>? your trying to install a B18b1 head on your B16a2 block?

Yup, you can reuse head studs. :goodjob:
But if I remember correctly the b16 head studs are longer than the LS head studs.. someone correct me if I'm wrong...

[Tech5]

moly is better than oil by FAR!!!! fyi


lol anti-seize or moly-lube. because i would never ever use your normal anti-seize for critical fasteners. Moly is by far the best and really the only thing to use on a critical fastener, so you make sure you get the correct tq and angle of the bolt.




oh and a little something interesting for you techy type people
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/2343/threaded_fasteners_torquetoyield_and_torquetoangle .aspx


True But I will stick what I been doing for years now, I have built more engines then a whore in atlanta can count how many times she has done the deed lol... Oiling the headbolts has been done for many many years to come with out any failure....Yes I am sure that this new Technology that we have more an better things are on the market..But I will not change whats been working for me without any problems.

[DirtyMechanic]

True But I will stick what I been doing for years now, I have built more engines then a whore in atlanta can count how many times she has done the deed lol... Oiling the headbolts has been done for many many years to come with out any failure....Yes I am sure that this new Technology that we have more an better things are on the market..But I will not change whats been working for me without any problems.of course oil is just fine for service work and stock motors. but the anti-seize people are talking about reminds me of the something you would put on a dry 02 sensor. yes oil is just fine for stock motors and TTY head bolts. but when you get into NOT stock motors get some ARP Moly youll see how much better it is to torque and angle torque bolts down.

[Tech5]

of course oil is just fine for service work and stock motors. but the anti-seize people are talking about reminds me of the something you would put on a dry 02 sensor. yes oil is just fine for stock motors and TTY head bolts. but when you get into NOT stock motors get some ARP Moly youll see how much better it is to torque and angle torque bolts down.

I have built many HP engines also used oil all the time Never a issue....A good torque wrench is nice though

[Barefoot]

yall crazy im sry but i just can reuse head bolt. unless they have been stretch tested first. even then im not a fan.

[Tech5]

yall crazy im sry but i just can reuse head bolt. unless they have been stretch tested first. even then im not a fan.

It just depends on the car, an motor....My hondas I will reuse even the dealer that I worked at told us to do so....but volks,BMW,some fords,chevys, I will get new ones

[Barefoot]

ive resused head bolts on a honda twice and they failed both times. so since then cheap an easy insurance for me are new 1s.

[Benefit]

just get some ARPs

[Tech5]

just get some ARPs

for a 80 year old grandma's civic?:thinking: :thinking:

[Barefoot]

for a 80 year old grandma's civic?:thinking: :thinking:lol they are still cheaper than oems. for the price the average guy can buy them for at the dealership.

[DirtyMechanic]

i know sometime ARP 2000's are cheaper than OEM TTY bolts lol....