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egibbs123
02-18-2009, 10:08 PM
Have a 00 civic si. The motor will not turn over. I know that the car is getting spark and fuel for sure. The ignition coil is good. Just replaced spark plugs. Compression? can you test it with out the motor running? Anyone have any ideas? please let me know. running out of ideas.:no:

civictR
02-18-2009, 11:54 PM
MMORE INFO PLEASE,

Motivation
02-19-2009, 12:06 AM
What does it do when you turn the key? Does it just click?

egibbs123
02-19-2009, 08:41 AM
Sorry worded it wrong will turn over just not fire. New battery one it also.

BKgen®
02-19-2009, 08:51 AM
Make sure you've got good grounds from the engine to frame and from the battery to the frame. If you've got bad grounds, the starter isn't getting a complete circuit and can't get enough power to turn the motor over.

Also, make sure you've got a heavy duty wire going from the battery to the starter itself.

seanrg1116
02-19-2009, 09:07 AM
out of time probubly, pull out all the plugs and start doin a compression check let us know what you find.

ps if you took the distributor off it is possible it could be 180 degrees out of time.

BKgen®
02-19-2009, 09:12 AM
out of time probubly, pull out all the plugs and start doin a compression check let us know what you find.

ps if you took the distributor off it is possible it could be 180 degrees out of time.

Even if the timing is off, the motor should at least turn over initially.

seanrg1116
02-19-2009, 02:47 PM
^^^^^if its off like a tooth it might but not if the dizzy is 180 out.

egibbs123
02-19-2009, 03:36 PM
thanks for the input. Will keep all this in mind. Thanks alot for your help and i will give an update this weekend.

EmminoDaGreat
02-19-2009, 03:51 PM
you cant put a honda distributor in wrong, without forcing it.... check firing order.

Master Shake
02-19-2009, 04:14 PM
i'm kinda having this same problem, but my starter will click and then nothing.

*subscribed* to this thread, lol.

im_hung
02-19-2009, 05:05 PM
the b-series has a common problem with the t-belt tensionor coming loose. check to see if it jumped timing. i had a gsr that jump 90 degrees... i put it back in time and... it started...

egibbs123
02-20-2009, 09:09 AM
Going to run a compression test today...

Barefoot
02-20-2009, 10:51 AM
you cant put a honda distributor in wrong, without forcing it.... check firing order.ive seen people do it. feel no resistance (atleast they say) start it up and snap the key right off the dizzy.

Going to run a compression test today...if u have no spark a comp test is in the wrong direction.

have u checked your

grounds
see if u have spark from the dizzy
oil pressure
crank position sensor
timing
ecu

battery

egibbs123
02-20-2009, 11:38 AM
have spark and fuel... the car just will not fire...

Barefoot
02-20-2009, 11:44 AM
have u checked your

grounds
timing
ecu
have u. now that we know for sure u got spark do a comp test.

egibbs123
02-20-2009, 01:53 PM
compression test... cylinder 1- 120 2- 100 3- 60 4- 0 Any ideas on where to go next?

Grimm Reeper
02-20-2009, 02:02 PM
If 4 is 0 then you have a bent valve :thinking:

Barefoot
02-20-2009, 03:09 PM
compression test... cylinder 1- 120 2- 100 3- 60 4- 0 Any ideas on where to go next?yah wtb fs section. look for a new motor.


If 4 is 0 then you have a bent valve :thinking:or a fucked up piston sleeve or valve stuck open. none the less with 0 psi u have a major failure on your hands.

im_hung
02-20-2009, 03:28 PM
sounds like a mis-shift at high rpm's. . .

Thighs
02-20-2009, 03:36 PM
someone did the old 5-2 shift... lol

egibbs123
02-21-2009, 01:01 AM
yeah bought the car like this....

Humphrizzle
02-21-2009, 01:09 AM
bad compression is the case.

should have 10 lb difference at most between all cylinders.

my b16 has 180lbs at 246k miles.

should be around 220 i think.

Motivation
02-21-2009, 10:04 AM
i'm kinda having this same problem, but my starter will click and then nothing.

*subscribed* to this thread, lol.

I could be way off on this... But check to see if motor is locked up. Hopefully I am wrong, but that is what it did when my sister's Camry locked up...

egibbs123
02-21-2009, 07:35 PM
no cams spin when you try and crank...

Barefoot
02-21-2009, 07:41 PM
if the cams dont spin but the crank does u got a broken timing belt. if nothing spins at all u got a bad starter or a locked up motor.

im_hung
02-21-2009, 10:14 PM
check your t-belt tensioner... they have a tendency to come loose

Barefoot
02-22-2009, 11:20 AM
check your t-belt tensioner... they have a tendency to come loosesry to tell yah but even if the tensioner was loose he is still fucked. honda motors are non interference motors.

speedminded
02-22-2009, 11:26 AM
sry to tell yah but even if the tensioner was loose he is still fucked. honda motors are non interference motors.Thank god for that because I broke a 20k mile timing belt once. No idea how but when I pulled it off 5 teeth were missing on the factory Honda belt. :dunno:

Kaiser
02-22-2009, 12:35 PM
If the cams aren't spinning it would explain his comp test. Broken timing belt might be the problem, and as far as I can tell I don't think he should have impacted his valves if they're in normal positions for a B-series. OP: You need to take the timing cover off and examine the timing belt, it'll probably give you a good idea of what's going on. If there's no timing belt on the cam gears then try spinning them slowly and see if you change your compression test results. If you can get every cylinder to come out right, then all you need to do is re-time the cams and put a timing belt on it. If you can't get them all to come out even then you've got a bent or impacted valve that isn't seating properly. That means it's time to take the head off and see if the motor is salvageable at all. It probably isn't, if that's the case.

Here's to hoping you only have a broken timing belt.