bmw 2002....... someone talk me out of this.

[Thighs]

im contemplating trading my e30 for a RUNNING 2002... is it a bad idea?

[Bus Driver J]

I think 2002's are dope but trading a e30 for it is pushing it. It would have to be in gooood shape.

[Thighs]

well, theres alot of good mechanical condition ones with some cosmetic issues, and the owners want what i think i could realistically get from the e30 at this point which is around 2500...

[xdavidscenex]

pics of the 2002.....

[Thighs]

not talking about one specifically...

just imagine one that runs well, has decent interior, maybe some surface rust and needs other random cosmetic stuff, like paint, trim, etc.

[xdavidscenex]

not talking about one specifically...

just imagine one that runs well, has decent interior, maybe some surface rust and needs other random cosmetic stuff, like paint, trim, etc.

ohh..well idk not..what kind of condition is your e30? 2002 is pretty badass...i seen one that goes for $2000 not running and needs alot of work.

[Thighs]

the ones i saw on cl today were going for 1600-2500, all running but not in good shape cosmetically.

the e30 is decent, just needs some tlc. needs a new fender and bumper, alignment, etc. nothing crazy. it has m3 bushings, straight pipes, 110k miles on engine, stg2 clutch, msd ignition.

[xdavidscenex]

the ones i saw on cl today were going for 1600-2500, all running but not in good shape cosmetically.

the e30 is decent, just needs some tlc. needs a new fender and bumper, alignment, etc. nothing crazy. it has m3 bushings, straight pipes, 110k miles on engine, stg2 clutch, msd ignition.

mhm...idk man..if you think you wont have any problems with the 2002 go for it. if you think after you get it you will have problem left to right...dont do it. :no:

[Thighs]

i already have problems with the e30... lol

LOTS of them.

[OnURleft]

ohhh I love 02's. So original, so cool. E30's are a dime a dozen.

[Thighs]

but as an only means of transportation? idk about that one. idk if i could find one within my trading price range that would be realistically reliable.

[xdavidscenex]

lol

[Thighs]

thats what im saying... lol

[OnURleft]

NO I would not want to daily drive one. Nor would I want to daily drive this 914 i'm looking at, but until my car is done...why not? It's really fun driving a vintage car around, but I wouldn't want to do it forever. However some really arn't that bad. This 914 will cruise at 100 without a swat all the way to New Orleans just like my buds 09 C300 haha, and when the weather is nice i'd much rather be in the beat up Porsche.

[Thighs]

^^ id love to dd one as long as its RELIABLE. thats the main issue stopping me from just doing it.

[OnURleft]

^^ id love to dd one as long as its RELIABLE. thats the main issue stopping me from just doing it.

dude cars like that can be fixed with your eye closed. There is nothing to break. And please as long as the carb is freshly rebuilt, and it's nicely running, it's going to be so easy to maintain.

[Thighs]

even if they are well built, things break with age.

take old beetles for example. the build quality was great but they just arent reliable anymore at all.

[OnURleft]

even if they are well built, things break with age.

take old beetles for example. the build quality was great but they just arent reliable anymore at all.

my first car was a 1972 super beetle. Anything could be fixed on the car in an few hours time for less than 50 bucks. Anything on the entire car... Floor boards rust, cut them out, weld in new ones. 20 bucks and a Saturday.

The thing never broke anyhow.

[Thighs]

idk. i guess ill start test driving them and looking at a few so i can get a feel for what i should look for.

[wannab20hatch]

i say go for it. heres one to look at for starters

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/1031453119.html

[Thighs]

yeah i saw that one. it all depends on how bad the interior is.

[OnURleft]

Jesse if you are going to spend $2500 or even $2000, I'd recommend a 914. Mid-engine feel, will do 120mph easy and handle's extremely well. Much cooler than an 02 if you ask me and if you plan on keeping it for awhile a Subaru 2.5 swap would be quite fun.
Keep in mind anything you buy is going to go up in value if you fix it up or just take care of it. If someone is offering you a trade for your blowed up car, and it's a running 02', DO IT. With a proper paint job those things are going for a good bit these days and old guys with there M6's and what not will pay for some nostalgia.

[Thighs]

nah, if i get an old car its gonna be an 02.

btw, my car runs again.

[OnURleft]

nah, if i get an old car its gonna be an 02.

btw, my car runs again.

Well an 02 is a better investment then your car. Instead of mods for your car if you say...restored the 02, you'd have more money coming out of it when you sell it and that's nice when it comes time to buying a new car

[RWD164]

I currently Daily Drive a 1976 2002. They are good cars.

Here is what has gone wring with mine since I got it.
Broke 2 rocker arms (Old age, original rockers)
Broke Transmission output flange (My fault, easily preventible)
Had to replace alternator connection plug (20min)

On the upshot,
They are a blast to drive, very direct feel, good throttle response.
good gas mileage (I get about 26-27 on average, with some spirited driving mixed in)

Here are a couple pointers if you are looking for one:
Buy any year but '73, there were a lot of inherent problems

find one that has as many upgrades as possible, b/c unlike hondas, there are no sketchy ebay parts to install.

Get one with a WEBER Carb!!!!! (b/c you can;t afford one with FI)

All in all it will be better that the e30, because there is less to go wrong. Don't be afraid, come join the old BMW Dark Side.

[speedminded]

my first car was a 1972 super beetle. Anything could be fixed on the car in an few hours time for less than 50 bucks. Anything on the entire car... Floor boards rust, cut them out, weld in new ones. 20 bucks and a Saturday.

The thing never broke anyhow.lol, you can fix just about everything on a beetle with anything you find randomly on the ground in a parking lot. :tongue:


but as an only means of transportation? idk about that one. idk if i could find one within my trading price range that would be realistically reliable.PM Admin and 1439/2000 on here about 2002's. I'm sure they'll post up in here though.

[JITB]

come back to us :cry:
http://www.bfhgarage.com/BFH-Images/miata/miata1.jpg
http://media.motortopia.com/files/2011/vehicle/454f58d3a1389/rx7.jpg

[Thighs]

haha aww the mazda crowd misses me. sadly, i refuse to drive anything with no pistons, and while miatas are fun and great cars, i like to have somewhere to put my shit. lol

[JITB]

protege/mx3?

[Thighs]

im not really feelin the fwd thing either... its just not as much fun.

i would drive the fuck out of your car though. lol

[OnURleft]

lol, you can fix just about everything on a beetle with anything you find randomly on the ground in a parking lot. :tongue:

PM Admin and 1439/2000 on here about 2002's. I'm sure they'll post up in here though.

LOL. I wasn't arguing that. However, just about anything can be bought to keep a beetle in tip top shape for less than 100 bucks on JC whitney.com. Also, some people would argue with what you just said.

[speedminded]

LOL. I wasn't arguing that. However, just about anything can be bought to keep a beetle in tip top shape for less than 100 bucks on JC whitney.com. Also, some people would argue with what you just said.Who wants to bet I can probably take the engine out of their beetle faster than they can remove all the seats?

I wasn't arguing about anything silly, I'm saying you can repair them with the simplest items to at least get you home.

The cars are cheap and easily maintained. A short shift kit for a beetle is under $3.00, lol.

[Thighs]

ON TOPIC!!!

[DinanM3atl]

My take on the 2002. Definitely a badass car if done right. Assuming it is on the stock motor then have 2 other cars to possible drive.

If it has say an M20 then you could probably daily it. They are like british roadsters. Drives for 3 days fine and then suddenly it won't start. Sits for an hour and fires right up like nothing ever happened.



With that said the e30 is a LOT better car than an 02. BY FAR. They are becoming more and more rare to find one in decent shape. THen cut out all the big bumper ones and you really are searching for a semi rare car.

Get or keep the e30. Put work and passion into it and you will be rolling.

[Thighs]

i already have the e30... but ive always wanted a 2002. theres a couple local ones willing to possibly trade.

[JITB]

im not really feelin the fwd thing either... its just not as much fun.

i would drive the fuck out of your car though. lol


yea i knew you wouldnt do fwd... :(

[Thighs]

trust me, ive looked into mx3s plenty. theyre really cool cars with alot of potential, but i dont think i would want a 4 banger one, and the 6 cylinders are sorta rare.

[Revmaynard]

Parts a kind of hard to find...and if it hasn't been sitting somewhere with no moisture I assure you it will have a good bit of rust.

[Thighs]

im probably just gonna save up and buy one as a project... lol

[Revmaynard]

Yea, I've got one as a project (slow, slow moving one.) and for you to do it
'''right'' could take some time.

[OnURleft]

My take on the 2002. Definitely a badass car if done right. Assuming it is on the stock motor then have 2 other cars to possible drive.

If it has say an M20 then you could probably daily it. They are like british roadsters. Drives for 3 days fine and then suddenly it won't start. Sits for an hour and fires right up like nothing ever happened.



With that said the e30 is a LOT better car than an 02. BY FAR. They are becoming more and more rare to find one in decent shape. THen cut out all the big bumper ones and you really are searching for a semi rare car.

Get or keep the e30. Put work and passion into it and you will be rolling.

that's pretty much the best advice you will get. I agree

[JITB]

trust me, ive looked into mx3s plenty. theyre really cool cars with alot of potential, but i dont think i would want a 4 banger one, and the 6 cylinders are sorta rare.


not as much as u think... u can convert a 4cyl to a 6 in a day... the redmx3 i had was a 6cyl and swapped with a BP. The only difficult parts to get is the GS parts (harness/linkage etc..) man i did my kl swap with 50$....lol :goodjob: y not get a pro they are 200lbs less than the mx3..

[Thighs]

because you cant get a v6 pro. :) lol

[Revmaynard]

You can swap one though. lulz

[OneSlow5pt0]

or get a chevy.....but word is thier unreliable and get bad gas milage or something....lol

[Thighs]

^^ no, they just arent as much fun.

[OneSlow5pt0]

^^ no, they just arent as much fun.

if u say so.........this is funnest car ive had.

[Thighs]

you must have had some real shitboxes before then... lol

im kidding, muscle cars just arent my cup of tea.

[OneSlow5pt0]

you must have had some real shitboxes before then... lol

im kidding, muscle cars just arent my cup of tea.i drove a miata and RX-7 before the camaro.

lol,its cool i feel ya.

[Thighs]

whoa whoa whoa....

so how is an automatic v6 camaro more fun than either of those???

[Revmaynard]

Because he couldn't drive the manual Miata and the RX7 was automatic! Lulz

[OneSlow5pt0]

Because he couldn't drive the manual Miata and the RX7 was automatic! Lulz

i cpuld drive it,but i needed a back seat...lol

and i like my v6's torque:tongue1:

[DinanM3atl]

e30 or mx3


Is that even a debate?

[wannab20hatch]

e30 or mx3


Is that even a debate?

not from my perspective

[wannab20hatch]

do the 2002

[JITB]

because you cant get a v6 pro. :) lol

now your just making excuses... have fun with your Ethingies... :lmfao: let me know when u want to come back!

Speaking of great fun cheap builds (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123708939)

[Echonova]

I picked one up Saturday...
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218405

[RWD164]

Nice pics above, that is a savage looking 2002.

[wannab20hatch]

heres a few more teasers

[speedminded]

Wheels identical to mine on a 2002...

[speedminded]

heres a few more teasersIf only it didn't have bright blue silicon hoses, it clashes too much with the valve cover.

[Echonova]

If it's gonna be your DD then I would not. If anything breaks you can't just go down to the parts store or junkyard to pull it. We are talking about a 30+ year old car... Things are gonna go wrong.

Is it cooler than a E30, sure. Better, not really.

[speedminded]

I've wanted to put an SR20 Turbo in one for 5 years now. Hell, wanted a 2002 since i was 12 or 13...tried to convince my parents braces were not nearly as good of an investment as a $2k BMW 2002 I found in the AJC Classified. I got braces, lol.

[speedminded]

I have over 1,100 BMW photos organized in 23 different folders lol!

[wannab20hatch]

I have over 1,100 BMW photos organized in 23 different folders lol!

i have google image. lol yeah the blue hoses do kinda clash.

[Thighs]

I've wanted to put an SR20 Turbo in one for 5 years now. Hell, wanted a 2002 since i was 12 or 13...tried to convince my parents braces were not nearly as good of an investment as a $2k BMW 2002 I found in the AJC Classified. I got braces, lol.

that is the worst idea i have ever heard. lol.

i wanna m20 swap one.

[JITB]

but in all honesty.. ive kinda of wanted a ole bmw coupe...

[Thighs]

^^ i knew you would appreciate them. you and i have very similar taste in cars...

[Revmaynard]

1600 ftw.:ninja:

[JITB]

^^ i knew you would appreciate them. you and i have very similar taste in cars...


my friend's dad got me into bmws.. i dont like them that much.. but id get one...lol if that makes sense.... :???:

[Thighs]

lol yeah, i feel the same about alot of cars.

and NO 1600 ftl. m20b25 FTW.

[Revmaynard]

1600 is lighter with the same size bay. lulz

[speedminded]

that is the worst idea i have ever heard. lol.

i wanna m20 swap one.Not when Erin's setup was available back then with a conservative 330whp...it's an extremely lightweight and small engine with a lot of potential. 1439/2000's blue 2002 with Erin's SR20 would have been a killer car!

Everyday I debate why i'm doing an M52 with a turbo when I could have the same power for less money with a normally aspirated LS6 & 6-speed that probably weighs 100lbs less. 400hp all aluminum V8 in an e30? Game over. :doh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_TwPI_ygI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj8Z1V9NFX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4dX_OUu8RY

[speedminded]

Build one like this!
http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36405

Photos:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Lee_Vuong/2002%20folder/

[EJ25RUN]

Im not really into most of the ones posted. If i had a 2002, i'd build me a

GS Tuning Replica
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/GS%20Tuning%2004.jpg

Koepchen Replica
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/1973-07-06_BMW_Koepchen_mit_Helmut_Kelleners-1.jpg/800px-1973-07-06_BMW_Koepchen_mit_Helmut_Kelleners-1.jpg

or

Alpina Replica
http://www.my2002tii.com/cool02s/alpina2.jpg

[speedminded]

The life of an '02 owner, awesome shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Lee_Vuong/2002%20folder/lee_pond.jpg?t=1234966922

[DinanM3atl]

None of the 2002 photos are fair...

OP isn't looking to buy a car like that. Most 02s for sale are shit boxes.

[Paul]

not bad idea if you got the $$$ to keep up on the thing

[Thighs]

yeah, ive come to my senses and i think im just gonna save up and buy one as a project once i get the e30 where i want it.