KiddRACING H22 Header Dyno Graph

[Vteckidd]

Customer had his accord tuned recently by Scotty up at Mainstream, i wasnt there but got the dyno graph today.

H23 VTEC
Type-S Pistons
Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams
KiddRACING Extreme H22 Header
Euro R Intake Manifold
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/mailgooglecom.jpg

Not bad, thats one of the highest whp H22s around, congrats Mr. Jones :D

[BlkCD5]

:goodjob: What are the typical gains from your header on a H22?

[Vteckidd]

10-15whp , i have some dyno charts up in the other thread

[xdavidscenex]

man nice numbers...

[Starrfire]

low torque though

[Vteckidd]

no thats about right, most H22s around here are in the 155-165 range. He doesnt have PRO1s, only stage 2s.

I used to think the same thing, but the more an more h22 dynoes i see around here the more they all seem the same

[Starrfire]

Ehh, I'm just used to seeing higher hp than mine with more tq than more hp with less tq. Especially being that its a 2.3 liter, and mines an old jdm h22a that is half worn out. but on an H's torque doesn't really differ all that much from what I've seen in my research.

[speedminded]

Ehh, I'm just used to seeing higher hp than mine with more tq than more hp with less tq. Especially being that its a 2.3 liter, and mines an old jdm h22a that is half worn out. but on an H's torque doesn't really differ all that much from what I've seen in my research.What numbers and what mods?

[csmiths]

what the word with the k series headers??

[94ludeguy]

did he have the h22 or h23 crank and rods. im guessing h23 by the numbers tho

[Starrfire]

What numbers and what mods?

Stock bottom end, stock port head, brian crower valvesprings and retainers, brian crower stage 2 cams, I/H/E, Skunk2 IM, 68 mm tb, hondata s200, tuned on a dynojet that reads a little low, but the times show. I've ran it in my 92 hatch I've only been to the track twice, and ran it 4 times, first 2 were finding out how much traction I didn't have, and then getting into it a little more the next 2. I put down 215 wheel, and 160 whtq, 1/4 hasn't had enough seat time yet, but I've ran 13.3 @107. I beat modded 2002 SS camaro's and other stuff, just need some radials and more time and I have the mph for a mid-high 12 second pass.:goodjob:

[speedminded]

Stock bottom end, stock port head, brian crower valvesprings and retainers, brian crower stage 2 cams, I/H/E, Skunk2 IM, 68 mm tb, hondata s200, tuned on a dynojet that reads a little low, but the times show. I've ran it in my 92 hatch I've only been to the track twice, and ran it 4 times, first 2 were finding out how much traction I didn't have, and then getting into it a little more the next 2. I put down 215 wheel, and 160 whtq, 1/4 hasn't had enough seat time yet, but I've ran 13.3 @107. I beat modded 2002 SS camaro's and other stuff, just need some radials and more time and I have the mph for a mid-high 12 second pass.:goodjob:Mmm...on street tires?

[scttydb411]

it originally was only making 185 because the ignition kept busting up...msd ftl!

just for reference for the poster saying it seemed low i just tuned a bone stock h22 last night and it made 181whp and 145wtq. 44whp/12wtq gain is faily substantial. a cheaper header might have gained more tq, but sacrifice hp or a more aggressive cam might have done more, but this is still an impressive setup none-the-less.

[Starrfire]

Mmm...on street tires?
absolutely

[Vteckidd]

absolutely
We had this discussion awhile back

Scotty tunes pretty much all the Hondas around here, so im sure he will agree.

in this thread there is a H23VTEC that Mainstream recently did, and an old customer of their and my roomates H22. ALl motors had pretty much the same intake, pistons, very similar cams (Stage 2s or Pro1s). So they are all very identical.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210355

They all make about the same whp, this h23 has the lowest TQ for sure but not by much. all within 5-8TQ of each other

[Starrfire]

I read the whole thread, wasn't disagreeing with anyone, I had quoted another members post, not answering to the post above me. I don't go to mainstream, I live in Alabama and I get everything tuned by Jim Helbing of Motorvations. Birmingham is closer to me than Atlanta.

[Vteckidd]

oh i know i was just commenting on how almost all the H series around here are close to each other

[h22 jones]

I have a skunk two intake not a euro r and i forgot to fix my exaust before i went which has a two inch flex pipe in it thats all they had when i went to get my exaust done. Im getting new exaust this week and i also still have my balance shafts which most h22s i have seen make this power had them removed so im happy for now just something to play with. I realy think the exaust is the reason for lower tourqe numbers but we will see.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/michaeldalej/006.jpg

[StreetHazard]

so what would you guys recommend for building a H22?

Skunk2 Pro 2-3's w/ springs and retainers of course

or Brian Crower Stage 2's w/ springs and retainers

with the rest of your standard mods I/H/E and hondata


I hope im not posting this in the wrong forum or something, but since we are on the tuning h22 topic

[D3UC3S]

hey jones, how did you get mikes header to fit the h23 vtec?...mine hit the oil pan...

[Vteckidd]

hey jones, how did you get mikes header to fit the h23 vtec?...mine hit the oil pan...
swap the oil pan to the US Pan

[D3UC3S]

gotcha! hybrid shit is such a pain in the ass

[IndianStig]

So this header will fit on an H22 Cb7 accord or won't?

[scttydb411]

so what would you guys recommend for building a H22?

Skunk2 Pro 2-3's w/ springs and retainers of course

or Brian Crower Stage 2's w/ springs and retainers

with the rest of your standard mods I/H/E and hondata


I hope im not posting this in the wrong forum or something, but since we are on the tuning h22 topic

i prefer skunk2 cams...i haven't been too impressed w/ any of the honda's w/ crower cams.

[h22 jones]

I put it on a 98 aluminum oil pan and my dads f20b oil pan and a stock oil pan i was unaware of a oil pan it would not fit. There is a few mods to do but yes it is in my 95 accord and running so it will fit.

[D3UC3S]

it hits the jdm one...really dont want to change the oil pan. o well, i gotta get it on b4 goin to scotty

[h22 jones]

I made a bracket to bolt to the block and to the header the pushes it down maybe a inch that makes everything clear and helps support the header its easy to make took about twenty minutes.

[D3UC3S]

post a pic please...does it just bolt where the oem heat shield would bolt to?

[Nang]

i had trouble fitting mine on a jdm H. i had to get force it onto the bolts then tighten. after that it went on easy

[Drummerboy]

hmmm, all this H22/23 talk, yet no F22 love. Bisimoto ftw! anyone have any experience with him?

[LongLiveH2b]

i have the vteckidd headers and gained 14whp over a DC sports header with my H22, 177whp--->191whp

[PawnShopCEO]

i have a h23vtec also that i bought from Matt. I believe the jdm motors have a deeper oil pan. mike jones stuff was a obd1 h22 that he put a h23 crank in

[D3UC3S]

i just gotta find time to drop the oil pan then its done. i love the way this header looks and performs.

BTW the motor i got from Matt was amazing. super quiet and smooth!

[h22 jones]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/michaeldalej/img002.jpg
here is the answer to all the low tourqe questions pistons were barely hitting head and valves killing my power everything is fixed now this is the new dyno.

[94ludeguy]

i just gotta find time to drop the oil pan then its done. i love the way this header looks and performs.

BTW the motor i got from Matt was amazing. super quiet and smooth!

x2 on the motor from matt... mine was rediculously clean and in great shape and purred...highly recommend them...i a friend that also bought a 1jz from them and it was it great shape and another that bought a 2jztt and that was also in great shape.

[h22 jones]

I ran a 12.7 still at 107 still spinning bad so im happy with the header no complaints here .

[Black R]

i like that vtec bump you get. that looks like it puts a smile on your face bwwwaaaaaBAAAAAAAAAAH!!!11

[h22 jones]

lol yea it hits pretty hard.

[mrniceguy311]

Customer had his accord tuned recently by Scotty up at Mainstream, i wasnt there but got the dyno graph today.

H23 VTEC
Type-S Pistons
Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams
KiddRACING Extreme H22 Header
Euro R Intake Manifold
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/mailgooglecom.jpg

Not bad, thats one of the highest whp H22s around, congrats Mr. Jones :D


sick nasty. im jealous.

[h22 jones]

thanks but look at the updated one its alot nastier.

[Sir_Christopher]

thanks but look at the updated one its alot nastier.


your h22 makes mine look like a bitch!

[h22 jones]

lol thanks we doing a little more to it so we will see what it makes this time.