starting problem

[NOCLUE]

Car is a Civic 1994

Ok, i took off my dizzy and polished it, screwed it back on cleaned up the bay a little(engine cleaner and a rag not wet damp) an when i turn the key car will not start no attept to turn over nothing Starter smokes and area becomes real hot:(

[Barefoot]

have u checked all the wires at the starter an make sure they are still all connected.

[Tech5]

bahahaha

[Barefoot]

bahahahawhat did i miss

[Tech5]

what did i miss

guy takes the dizzy off to polish it and now it will not crank,,, bahahha next time leave shitt alone!

people like this makes me rich!

[Barefoot]

guy takes the dizzy off to polish it and now it will not crank,,, bahahha next time leave shitt alone!

people like this makes me rich!lol got yah. i hear that.

[Tech5]

lol got yah. i hear that.

His name says it all too

[NOCLUE]

ha ha ha,No , all wires good did this on my other car it works fine looks good, last week my eng harness went bad so ya

[NOCLUE]

well it prob is the starter my boi is takeing it to autozone 2 b tested 2 mar

[ducky1177]

since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:

[Tech5]

since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:

or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!

[ducky1177]

fail on me
good point
haha:lmfao:



or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!

[Barefoot]

since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:u have no room to give advice.

[ducky1177]

haha
it wasnt advise
...just a stab
;)



u have no room to give advice.

[NOCLUE]

or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!

other then the problem how would i no its lock up

[Barefoot]

other then the problem how would i no its lock upspin the motor over by hand

[NOCLUE]

this is done how

[Barefoot]

this is done howa socket and a ratchet at the crank pully bolt

[NOCLUE]

Thanks for the Knowledge

[Barefoot]

np

[Tech5]

you can also spin the motor over by taking the gas out of the car, pouring the gas onto the motor.And then lighting it on fire and watch the motor turn over !

[NOCLUE]

....:lmfao: ........:lmfao: ..........:lmfao: ...........:lmfao:

[NOCLUE]

Thier you go man all the attention you need

[Black4DrEK]

yup.. starter was fine.....


How would the motor 'lock' up with out him doing anything to it??

[Barefoot]

yup.. starter was fine.....


How would the motor 'lock' up with out him doing anything to it??lol that was a hypothetical.

[Black4DrEK]

exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!

[Master Shake]

seems to me like you might have 2 hot wires going to the starter.
or the started is bad.

[Tech5]

exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!

If he would have just left it alone then trying to RICE out his Dizzy he wouldnt had a problem to began with my friend!

Sometimes its best to take your RICE ideas and leave them at that IDEAS

[Barefoot]

exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!help take it to a shop its above his head.

[Tech5]

help take it to a shop its above his head.

I mean how can you give someone help without looking at this car for this type problem?

I mean with a screenname like that NO CLUE and his car was fine until he polished his DIZZY and now it will not start...CMON ...

I bet next time he will just leave those RICE ideas alone huh....



Oh so you don't think my advice is useless I will help....


You need the following

starter
wiring harness
ecu
battery
ignition switch
and maybe a new DIZZY :lmfao:

[yunglaosta]

maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:

[Tech5]

maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:

RICE

[NOCLUE]

How is that rice im the only on that seez it D-bag

[NOCLUE]

maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:

Naw starter is fine, tested it 2 day at autozone

[Tech5]

How is that rice im the only on that seez it D-bag

ok its stupid,retarded,waste of time, hows that

[yunglaosta]

replace your distributor...or maybe you put the distributor in the wrong way

[Barefoot]

stupid question but did u install it right with the key ways on the dizzy.

[im_hung]

sounds like a short somewhere... check the harness and plugs...

[Grimm Reeper]

Any progress thus far :thinking:

[Tech5]

^^^ Yeah he isnt going to polish the dizzy again lol

[JDM onlyy]

Check your grounds. You might have messed one up when you were cleaning the engine bay. It would cause it not to turn over.

Theres one on the thermostat, one on the tranny, and one on the valve cover. Look for them

[NOCLUE]

Check your grounds. You might have messed one up when you were cleaning the engine bay. It would cause it not to turn over.

Theres one on the thermostat, one on the tranny, and one on the valve cover. Look for them

GOOD INFO

[NOCLUE]

replace your distributor...or maybe you put the distributor in the wrong way

Naw def not and since you ask bout it i lookt at the before pic and its the right way Thanks anyway

[JDM onlyy]

So how's it coming?

[81911SC]

well it prob is the starter my boi is takeing it to autozone 2 b tested 2 marI think this is the problem. Look at that broken English. I highly doubt you know what you're doing with your car. Take it to a shop.

[yunglaosta]

Naw def not and since you ask bout it i lookt at the before pic and its the right way Thanks anyway


are you sure you positioned in the exact same way back in? well heres something i just thought about, try jumping your car. maybe not getting power some how lol

[NOCLUE]

We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow

[JDM onlyy]

We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow

Where was your idle at? What sounds did it make?

[yunglaosta]

We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow


i think you got a bad ground then. hell, idk, i think its time for a motor swap lol

[NOCLUE]

i think you got a bad ground then. hell, idk, i think its time for a motor swap lol


LOL LOL HELL YA MAN GOT A LS 2

[NOCLUE]

Where was your idle at? What sounds did it make?

You can hear an electrical type sound then it starts to fade away

[yunglaosta]

LOL LOL HELL YA MAN GOT A LS 2

:werd: when you took out the dizzy what else did you take out?

[NOCLUE]

thats all, i cant remember if i took off the batt cables when i took if off and put it bak on

[yunglaosta]

thats all, i cant remember if i took off the batt cables when i took if off and put it bak on


if you took the battery off then did you put the battery terminals on the right way?

[NOCLUE]

LOL, ya man

[Black4DrEK]

looks to me you F'd up your timing bro!!

Any luck man??

[yunglaosta]

looks to me you F'd up your timing bro!!

Any luck man??


shit if so, he got to redo his timing, try that man.

[NOCLUE]

how you do that

[RBS]

how you do that


calling someone that knows what their doing .... :ninja:

[NOCLUE]

since your a smart ass whats your number

[RBS]

since your a smart ass whats your number

theres no need for you to call to figure out how to check your timing, read carefully



have a 10 and 17mm socket. 6inch extension and a 3/8 ratchet .. and some other small tools handy

-disconnect battery, turn steering wheel all the way to the left.
-remove valve cover and upper cam cover exposing the cam gear.
-take the 17mm and the extension.. and turn the crank pulley counter clockwise until a wee little line next to 3 other lines line up with a little tab poking out the lower timing cover.
-then look at the cam GEAR and make sure that where it says UP is facing... UP. if it is up then pretty much your good.... no need to get in depth with this unless the UP is facing somewhere besides UP

if UP isnt UP then timing is off... very simple


if all of that seems like gibberish to you, then calling me wouldove been pointless to begin with.

i wasnt being a smart ass, im really trying to help you from causing more problems by attempting to fix timing when it prolly isnt even off :ninja:

[NOCLUE]

thanks, if the engine turns then the timeing cant be off, it turned a couple of times before it died on me not good turns but it sounded like it was about to start but just sounded

[seanrg1116]

did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do

[Black4DrEK]

yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?


Hit me up fool!

[Barefoot]

did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do

yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?


Hit me up fool!i thought i asked that

ooo wait i did


stupid question but did u install it right with the key ways on the dizzy.

[NOCLUE]

did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do

Will do

[NOCLUE]

I got the spark plugs out and turned it over by hand, so idk its the time thats wrong

[NOCLUE]

yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?


Hit me up fool!

if all else fails i will, cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do that

[Barefoot]

cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do thaty?

[NOCLUE]

(Black4DrEK)
Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?

(1siccEJ2 said)
-remove valve cover and upper cam cover exposing the cam gear.

(NOCLUE)
if all else fails i will, cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do that

[blackboi50]

you have NOCLUE whats going on do you!!!! (no pun intended).....1

[NOCLUE]

? ?

[NOCLUE]

Some eyes
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/ReNeJDM/DSCF0966.jpg

[NOCLUE]

geting new ones

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/ReNeJDM/DSCF0968.jpg

[RBS]

does the car get fuel? like... is the fuel filter not clogged?

and are you sure its not getting spark? have you actually took a plug out, stuck a spark plug in the plug and layed it on the engine and try to crank to see if it sparks?

if you have spark, and you have gas... theres only one thing left, and thats air... or timing

[im_hung]

here you go bro... i forgot all about it... this is from Honda's iN Network...

http://www.zshare.net/image/557444694db2dbb9/

[NOCLUE]

does the car get fuel? like... is the fuel filter not clogged?

and are you sure its not getting spark? have you actually took a plug out, stuck a spark plug in the plug and layed it on the engine and try to crank to see if it sparks?

if you have spark, and you have gas... theres only one thing left, and thats air... or timing

spark and gas i will check today

[NOCLUE]

about to post a vid of the electric noise i was tell all you about

[yunglaosta]

post it!

[NOCLUE]

srry on it now

[NOCLUE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqg09-Z5Oqs

[NOCLUE]

there you go

[yunglaosta]

srry on it now

lol its cool. hmmm still working on it?

[yunglaosta]

lol its cool. hmmm still working on it?

dont mind that...btw did it even turn?

[im_hung]

sounds like the. i have a performance test u can perform. ill post it later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

[NOCLUE]

No, no turn geting a new starter prob 2mar, and some spark plugs

[Tensa_Zanget]

most likely its ur starter and distributor. try getting a used one or if get one from a friend if they got same d series. well goodluck man!

[NOCLUE]

im hopeing just starter

[Humphrizzle]

have a d15b7 EF starter and dizzy.. i could see if i can part them out.

or pm me if you need help..

[NOCLUE]

SHOOT,i need all three. lol

[NOCLUE]

Got her runing THANKS FOR THE HELP EVERYONE

[Tensa_Zanget]

Got her runing THANKS FOR THE HELP EVERYONE

wat u do?

[NOCLUE]

New starter, and for posting i learned alot of new sh*t about timeing and the dizzys roll in all this, so i got my car runing and learned some stuff thats a win win 2 me