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NOCLUE
02-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Car is a Civic 1994
Ok, i took off my dizzy and polished it, screwed it back on cleaned up the bay a little(engine cleaner and a rag not wet damp) an when i turn the key car will not start no attept to turn over nothing Starter smokes and area becomes real hot:(
Barefoot
02-11-2009, 05:47 PM
have u checked all the wires at the starter an make sure they are still all connected.
Tech5
02-11-2009, 05:54 PM
bahahaha
Barefoot
02-11-2009, 05:57 PM
bahahahawhat did i miss
Tech5
02-11-2009, 06:02 PM
what did i miss
guy takes the dizzy off to polish it and now it will not crank,,, bahahha next time leave shitt alone!
people like this makes me rich!
Barefoot
02-11-2009, 06:05 PM
guy takes the dizzy off to polish it and now it will not crank,,, bahahha next time leave shitt alone!
people like this makes me rich!lol got yah. i hear that.
Tech5
02-11-2009, 06:08 PM
lol got yah. i hear that.
His name says it all too
NOCLUE
02-11-2009, 06:39 PM
ha ha ha,No , all wires good did this on my other car it works fine looks good, last week my eng harness went bad so ya
NOCLUE
02-11-2009, 09:06 PM
well it prob is the starter my boi is takeing it to autozone 2 b tested 2 mar
ducky1177
02-11-2009, 09:57 PM
since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:
Tech5
02-11-2009, 09:58 PM
since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:
or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!
ducky1177
02-11-2009, 10:01 PM
fail on me
good point
haha:lmfao:
or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!
Barefoot
02-11-2009, 10:30 PM
since it doesnt start and your starter smokes....
im just gonna take a stab in the dark here but i think it might be your....starter
:ninja:u have no room to give advice.
ducky1177
02-11-2009, 10:32 PM
haha
it wasnt advise
...just a stab
;)
u have no room to give advice.
NOCLUE
02-11-2009, 10:47 PM
or the motor is locked up and the starter is smoking because it cant turn and its over heating!
other then the problem how would i no its lock up
Barefoot
02-12-2009, 07:40 AM
other then the problem how would i no its lock upspin the motor over by hand
NOCLUE
02-12-2009, 03:51 PM
this is done how
Barefoot
02-12-2009, 04:50 PM
this is done howa socket and a ratchet at the crank pully bolt
NOCLUE
02-12-2009, 06:34 PM
Thanks for the Knowledge
Barefoot
02-12-2009, 06:38 PM
np
Tech5
02-12-2009, 08:59 PM
you can also spin the motor over by taking the gas out of the car, pouring the gas onto the motor.And then lighting it on fire and watch the motor turn over !
NOCLUE
02-12-2009, 09:12 PM
....:lmfao: ........:lmfao: ..........:lmfao: ...........:lmfao:
NOCLUE
02-12-2009, 09:14 PM
Thier you go man all the attention you need
Black4DrEK
02-13-2009, 08:42 AM
yup.. starter was fine.....
How would the motor 'lock' up with out him doing anything to it??
Barefoot
02-13-2009, 08:51 AM
yup.. starter was fine.....
How would the motor 'lock' up with out him doing anything to it??lol that was a hypothetical.
Black4DrEK
02-13-2009, 09:31 AM
exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!
Master Shake
02-13-2009, 10:01 AM
seems to me like you might have 2 hot wires going to the starter.
or the started is bad.
Tech5
02-13-2009, 10:10 AM
exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!
If he would have just left it alone then trying to RICE out his Dizzy he wouldnt had a problem to began with my friend!
Sometimes its best to take your RICE ideas and leave them at that IDEAS
Barefoot
02-13-2009, 10:13 AM
exactly useless info! he asked for HELP not JOKES!!help take it to a shop its above his head.
Tech5
02-13-2009, 10:16 AM
help take it to a shop its above his head.
I mean how can you give someone help without looking at this car for this type problem?
I mean with a screenname like that NO CLUE and his car was fine until he polished his DIZZY and now it will not start...CMON ...
I bet next time he will just leave those RICE ideas alone huh....
Oh so you don't think my advice is useless I will help....
You need the following
starter
wiring harness
ecu
battery
ignition switch
and maybe a new DIZZY :lmfao:
yunglaosta
02-13-2009, 11:18 AM
maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:
Tech5
02-13-2009, 11:31 AM
maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:
RICE
NOCLUE
02-13-2009, 11:48 AM
How is that rice im the only on that seez it D-bag
NOCLUE
02-13-2009, 11:59 AM
maybe you fucked up your dizzy polishing it? uhh not to be a dick, but why did you polish your dizzy? i say get a new dizzy and starter. sounds like you fried the starter my friend! :eek:
Naw starter is fine, tested it 2 day at autozone
Tech5
02-13-2009, 12:00 PM
How is that rice im the only on that seez it D-bag
ok its stupid,retarded,waste of time, hows that
yunglaosta
02-13-2009, 12:21 PM
replace your distributor...or maybe you put the distributor in the wrong way
Barefoot
02-13-2009, 01:31 PM
stupid question but did u install it right with the key ways on the dizzy.
im_hung
02-13-2009, 02:05 PM
sounds like a short somewhere... check the harness and plugs...
Grimm Reeper
02-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Any progress thus far :thinking:
Tech5
02-13-2009, 02:43 PM
^^^ Yeah he isnt going to polish the dizzy again lol
JDM onlyy
02-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Check your grounds. You might have messed one up when you were cleaning the engine bay. It would cause it not to turn over.
Theres one on the thermostat, one on the tranny, and one on the valve cover. Look for them
NOCLUE
02-13-2009, 06:54 PM
Check your grounds. You might have messed one up when you were cleaning the engine bay. It would cause it not to turn over.
Theres one on the thermostat, one on the tranny, and one on the valve cover. Look for them
GOOD INFO
NOCLUE
02-13-2009, 06:57 PM
replace your distributor...or maybe you put the distributor in the wrong way
Naw def not and since you ask bout it i lookt at the before pic and its the right way Thanks anyway
JDM onlyy
02-14-2009, 02:54 PM
So how's it coming?
81911SC
02-14-2009, 07:17 PM
well it prob is the starter my boi is takeing it to autozone 2 b tested 2 marI think this is the problem. Look at that broken English. I highly doubt you know what you're doing with your car. Take it to a shop.
yunglaosta
02-14-2009, 08:41 PM
Naw def not and since you ask bout it i lookt at the before pic and its the right way Thanks anyway
are you sure you positioned in the exact same way back in? well heres something i just thought about, try jumping your car. maybe not getting power some how lol
NOCLUE
02-14-2009, 09:33 PM
We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow
JDM onlyy
02-15-2009, 01:15 PM
We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow
Where was your idle at? What sounds did it make?
yunglaosta
02-15-2009, 10:03 PM
We did and it started but sounded real bad and the belts were moveing super slow
i think you got a bad ground then. hell, idk, i think its time for a motor swap lol
NOCLUE
02-16-2009, 01:32 AM
i think you got a bad ground then. hell, idk, i think its time for a motor swap lol
LOL LOL HELL YA MAN GOT A LS 2
NOCLUE
02-16-2009, 01:36 AM
Where was your idle at? What sounds did it make?
You can hear an electrical type sound then it starts to fade away
yunglaosta
02-16-2009, 04:14 AM
LOL LOL HELL YA MAN GOT A LS 2
:werd: when you took out the dizzy what else did you take out?
NOCLUE
02-16-2009, 01:50 PM
thats all, i cant remember if i took off the batt cables when i took if off and put it bak on
yunglaosta
02-16-2009, 01:54 PM
thats all, i cant remember if i took off the batt cables when i took if off and put it bak on
if you took the battery off then did you put the battery terminals on the right way?
NOCLUE
02-18-2009, 03:36 AM
LOL, ya man
Black4DrEK
02-18-2009, 04:15 PM
looks to me you F'd up your timing bro!!
Any luck man??
yunglaosta
02-18-2009, 05:22 PM
looks to me you F'd up your timing bro!!
Any luck man??
shit if so, he got to redo his timing, try that man.
NOCLUE
02-18-2009, 10:30 PM
how you do that
how you do that
calling someone that knows what their doing .... :ninja:
NOCLUE
02-18-2009, 10:36 PM
since your a smart ass whats your number
since your a smart ass whats your number
theres no need for you to call to figure out how to check your timing, read carefully
have a 10 and 17mm socket. 6inch extension and a 3/8 ratchet .. and some other small tools handy
-disconnect battery, turn steering wheel all the way to the left.
-remove valve cover and upper cam cover exposing the cam gear.
-take the 17mm and the extension.. and turn the crank pulley counter clockwise until a wee little line next to 3 other lines line up with a little tab poking out the lower timing cover.
-then look at the cam GEAR and make sure that where it says UP is facing... UP. if it is up then pretty much your good.... no need to get in depth with this unless the UP is facing somewhere besides UP
if UP isnt UP then timing is off... very simple
if all of that seems like gibberish to you, then calling me wouldove been pointless to begin with.
i wasnt being a smart ass, im really trying to help you from causing more problems by attempting to fix timing when it prolly isnt even off :ninja:
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 02:46 AM
thanks, if the engine turns then the timeing cant be off, it turned a couple of times before it died on me not good turns but it sounded like it was about to start but just sounded
seanrg1116
02-19-2009, 09:15 AM
did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do
Black4DrEK
02-19-2009, 03:07 PM
yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?
Hit me up fool!
Barefoot
02-19-2009, 03:12 PM
did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do
yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?
Hit me up fool!i thought i asked that
ooo wait i did
stupid question but did u install it right with the key ways on the dizzy.
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 03:42 PM
did you put the dizzy in 180 degrees out of time......take the dizzy off and turn the key 180 degrees and put it back in..........its worth a shot and will only take 2 minutes to do
Will do
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
I got the spark plugs out and turned it over by hand, so idk its the time thats wrong
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 03:45 PM
yea ren you probly put the dizzy in ^180 degrees turned... Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?
Hit me up fool!
if all else fails i will, cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do that
Barefoot
02-19-2009, 04:24 PM
cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do thaty?
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 04:29 PM
(Black4DrEK)
Did you do what 1siccEJ2 said?
(1siccEJ2 said)
-remove valve cover and upper cam cover exposing the cam gear.
(NOCLUE)
if all else fails i will, cuz i got to get a new vale cover gasket to do that
blackboi50
02-19-2009, 04:31 PM
you have NOCLUE whats going on do you!!!! (no pun intended).....1
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 05:09 PM
? ?
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 06:16 PM
Some eyes
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/ReNeJDM/DSCF0966.jpg
NOCLUE
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
geting new ones
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/ReNeJDM/DSCF0968.jpg
does the car get fuel? like... is the fuel filter not clogged?
and are you sure its not getting spark? have you actually took a plug out, stuck a spark plug in the plug and layed it on the engine and try to crank to see if it sparks?
if you have spark, and you have gas... theres only one thing left, and thats air... or timing
im_hung
02-20-2009, 03:24 PM
here you go bro... i forgot all about it... this is from Honda's iN Network...
http://www.zshare.net/image/557444694db2dbb9/
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 04:40 PM
does the car get fuel? like... is the fuel filter not clogged?
and are you sure its not getting spark? have you actually took a plug out, stuck a spark plug in the plug and layed it on the engine and try to crank to see if it sparks?
if you have spark, and you have gas... theres only one thing left, and thats air... or timing
spark and gas i will check today
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 04:42 PM
about to post a vid of the electric noise i was tell all you about
yunglaosta
02-20-2009, 08:37 PM
post it!
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 09:01 PM
srry on it now
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 09:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqg09-Z5Oqs
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 09:04 PM
there you go
yunglaosta
02-20-2009, 09:12 PM
srry on it now
lol its cool. hmmm still working on it?
yunglaosta
02-20-2009, 09:16 PM
lol its cool. hmmm still working on it?
dont mind that...btw did it even turn?
im_hung
02-20-2009, 09:21 PM
sounds like the. i have a performance test u can perform. ill post it later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
NOCLUE
02-20-2009, 09:36 PM
No, no turn geting a new starter prob 2mar, and some spark plugs
Tensa_Zanget
02-20-2009, 10:29 PM
most likely its ur starter and distributor. try getting a used one or if get one from a friend if they got same d series. well goodluck man!
NOCLUE
02-21-2009, 12:49 AM
im hopeing just starter
Humphrizzle
02-21-2009, 01:26 AM
have a d15b7 EF starter and dizzy.. i could see if i can part them out.
or pm me if you need help..
NOCLUE
02-21-2009, 03:32 AM
SHOOT,i need all three. lol
NOCLUE
02-21-2009, 06:07 PM
Got her runing THANKS FOR THE HELP EVERYONE
Tensa_Zanget
02-21-2009, 07:21 PM
Got her runing THANKS FOR THE HELP EVERYONE
wat u do?
NOCLUE
02-21-2009, 10:06 PM
New starter, and for posting i learned alot of new sh*t about timeing and the dizzys roll in all this, so i got my car runing and learned some stuff thats a win win 2 me
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