NObama!

[Deo Vindice]

Obama has been president for three weeks. And in those three weeks, he is about to be the biggest government spender ever, the biggest spender of mankind period. In all of human history! I don't care how you measure it. Weather in absolute dollars or as a percent, THE BIGGEST SPENDER EVER!!!! Any member of Congress who voted for this bill, is vastly over-stepping the constitutions limits on the federal Gov't. The constitution doesn't permit a federal raid on the treasury. Not by the President or by Congress or by the Judicary. If you remember, this is a LIMITED GOVERNMENT. The central gov't was created by the states, and the states get their power from the people. No the other way around. Now the most powerful force in this nation is the federal gov't. They are blatently rejecting our Constitution and the limits on federal govenment. Anyone who voted for this bill is also rejecting Capitalism. What is Capitalism??? It is the right to keep private property. And why is private proterty so important? Because you live in a house or an apartment and you aquire those things to protect yourself form the environment. It is your homestead so to speak. This is why the Leftists grap at private property rights, they want to control your security, your ability to provide for yourself and your family. That is why capitalism is so curcial. Capitalism allows it to be possible for anyone, in any walk of life to acumulate wealth. Not nessecarily to be weathly but to acumulate wealth so you can provide for yourself and your family. Anyone who voted for this bill is voting for athoritarianism, in gov't and in economic methods. Americans have fought in this country for over 200 years to prevent today from happening. Wether its the Revolutionary war or every war since. What are we protecting in this nation? We aren't portecting TARP or Unemployment compensation. We are protecting Liberty and private property and the constitution! Because without them what are we? We are simply drones of the state. Obama also has a plan to increase the TARP to 1 TRILLION dollars!!! That means in ONE WEEKS TIME Obama will be authorizing to spend two trillion dollars. This is only the first two of his three spending efforts to "stimulate the economy". We don't even know what the next effort will be. But who knows, it will prob be another trillion dollars. THATS THREE TRILLION DOLLARS!!!! Three trillion in the first 100 days by the most irresponsible, inexpierenced president in world history under any form of gov't. How can it be considered consitutional when the president will spend more money than any person ever on the face of this earth!!! In three weeks he is dropping prosecutions of terrorisrts, he is closing Gitmo, he is turning over the work place to Union bosses... And its only been six weeks. Obama is driving this contry so far left, and so fast, that we won't even recognize it. And our kids wont know what it is like to live where wealth and opprotunity were common. We are in the porcess of dismanteling this nation, we are tearing apart the greatest peices of it. Obama is making desicions today that will not only harm us today but for many generations to come... Loading up the courts with activist judges, by expanding the federal buracracy, grabbing as much power as he can grab with his thin 52.7% vote, with his majority in congress as fast as he can to secure a political system to ensure that the democrtes will stay in power for as long as anyone can see. And with most Marxists, he is heading power to the oval office. Starting with the Census Beaure. But now, the director of the census beurue is going to report directly to the oval office. Meaning Rom Emmanual. The biggest hack to ever step into the oval office. Each decade, the census is responsible for counting every American in order to reorganize the seats for the House of Rep. and whats intended by running this out of White House is simple. To control the system and to ensure more safe seats for Democrates. And by doing this, it becomes much more difficult to change the majority no matter how many people vote. They are trying to create a permenant majority with what is suppose to be a representative branch of Gov't. And he is funding all of this will trillions of dollars of your own money. I haven't even mentioned his future plans. There is growing concern of a new executive order by Obama that says if you want to work, you have to join a Union. Wether you like it or not. He wants to do away with the secret union ballot. Even George McGovern was against it! But what is scary is, we hear nothing from the media these days. Nothing to scar the image of the Messiah! But in three short weeks, Obama is the most power-hungary leader in history... Fuck my life. I moving to China.

tl;dr : Fuck Obama

[VIP Style]

^^uhh fail, go fuck yourself

[NewGen33]

Please go live in a different country and see if your ass doesn't regret every minute of it.

[EJ25RUN]

Please go live in a different country and see if your ass doesn't regret every minute of it.
Um, you've obvioulsy never been outside the US.

Its quite nice actually. Especially Europe.

[VIP Style]

lol ya know, he/she can go to china if they want too...
Please go live in a different country and see if your ass doesn't regret every minute of it.

[BanginJimmy]

Um, you've obvioulsy never been outside the US.

Its quite nice actually. Especially Europe.


I prefer Asia or Australia as long as its not the northern territory.

[EJ25RUN]

I prefer Asia or Australia as long as its not the northern territory.

Europe is home away from home for me. I fit in just fine when i go back.

[VIP Style]

yeah i must admit europe is nice, were just getting at how he came across dissin the U.S. like its so bad.
Um, you've obvioulsy never been outside the US.

Its quite nice actually. Especially Europe.

[NewGen33]

Um, you've obvioulsy never been outside the US.

Its quite nice actually. Especially Europe.
Well Europe is a continent, but other than that I don't see any other country doing better than us if continue to get worse.

[NewGen33]

yeah i must admit europe is nice, were just getting at how he came across dissin the U.S. like its so bad.
Exactly

[EJ25RUN]

Well Europe is a continent, but other than that I don't see any other country doing better than us if continue to get worse.

The thing about Europe is the countries are right next to each other so it isn't impossible to go through 3 or 4 in a day. And it is a global economic crisis. Not just the U.S. We arn't really of that much better than they are.

[StarBwoy]

Obama has been president for three weeks. And in those three weeks, he is about to be the biggest government spender ever, the biggest spender of mankind period. In all of human history! I don't care how you measure it. Weather in absolute dollars or as a percent, THE BIGGEST SPENDER EVER!!!! Any member of Congress who voted for this bill, is vastly over-stepping the constitutions limits on the federal Gov't. The constitution doesn't permit a federal raid on the treasury. Not by the President or by Congress or by the Judicary. If you remember, this is a LIMITED GOVERNMENT. The central gov't was created by the states, and the states get their power from the people. No the other way around. Now the most powerful force in this nation is the federal gov't. They are blatently rejecting our Constitution and the limits on federal govenment. Anyone who voted for this bill is also rejecting Capitalism. What is Capitalism??? It is the right to keep private property. And why is private proterty so important? Because you live in a house or an apartment and you aquire those things to protect yourself form the environment. It is your homestead so to speak. This is why the Leftists grap at private property rights, they want to control your security, your ability to provide for yourself and your family. That is why capitalism is so curcial. Capitalism allows it to be possible for anyone, in any walk of life to acumulate wealth. Not nessecarily to be weathly but to acumulate wealth so you can provide for yourself and your family. Anyone who voted for this bill is voting for athoritarianism, in gov't and in economic methods. Americans have fought in this country for over 200 years to prevent today from happening. Wether its the Revolutionary war or every war since. What are we protecting in this nation? We aren't portecting TARP or Unemployment compensation. We are protecting Liberty and private property and the constitution! Because without them what are we? We are simply drones of the state. Obama also has a plan to increase the TARP to 1 TRILLION dollars!!! That means in ONE WEEKS TIME Obama will be authorizing to spend two trillion dollars. This is only the first two of his three spending efforts to "stimulate the economy". We don't even know what the next effort will be. But who knows, it will prob be another trillion dollars. THATS THREE TRILLION DOLLARS!!!! Three trillion in the first 100 days by the most irresponsible, inexpierenced president in world history under any form of gov't. How can it be considered consitutional when the president will spend more money than any person ever on the face of this earth!!! In three weeks he is dropping prosecutions of terrorisrts, he is closing Gitmo, he is turning over the work place to Union bosses... And its only been six weeks. Obama is driving this contry so far left, and so fast, that we won't even recognize it. And our kids wont know what it is like to live where wealth and opprotunity were common. We are in the porcess of dismanteling this nation, we are tearing apart the greatest peices of it. Obama is making desicions today that will not only harm us today but for many generations to come... Loading up the courts with activist judges, by expanding the federal buracracy, grabbing as much power as he can grab with his thin 52.7% vote, with his majority in congress as fast as he can to secure a political system to ensure that the democrtes will stay in power for as long as anyone can see. And with most Marxists, he is heading power to the oval office. Starting with the Census Beaure. But now, the director of the census beurue is going to report directly to the oval office. Meaning Rom Emmanual. The biggest hack to ever step into the oval office. Each decade, the census is responsible for counting every American in order to reorganize the seats for the House of Rep. and whats intended by running this out of White House is simple. To control the system and to ensure more safe seats for Democrates. And by doing this, it becomes much more difficult to change the majority no matter how many people vote. They are trying to create a permenant majority with what is suppose to be a representative branch of Gov't. And he is funding all of this will trillions of dollars of your own money. I haven't even mentioned his future plans. There is growing concern of a new executive order by Obama that says if you want to work, you have to join a Union. Wether you like it or not. He wants to do away with the secret union ballot. Even George McGovern was against it! But what is scary is, we hear nothing from the media these days. Nothing to scar the image of the Messiah! But in three short weeks, Obama is the most power-hungary leader in history... Fuck my life. I moving to China.

tl;dr : Fuck Obama fuck u

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[Spagheddy]

dude seriously try to understand that your united states government created the currency known as the almighty dollar and guess what they control the creation of it as well now i am not saying they created currency in general i am just saying that you will have to spend money to fix the situation that we went into when bush jr. was in office, all bush had to do was sit and look pretty since clinton left this country with a surplus but no. Anyways i stray away from the point that since the government makes the money, they can also turn around and use that money anyway that they see fit, so in the next few months if your ass loses your job, thank obama and his administration for pumping funds into an already dwindled unemployment fund so you still have income, or if you dont already have a job, get your lazy ass out there and find one, 3.5 million+ jobs coming to a city near you!!!!!!!!!

suck it biaaaatch.
pwned.

[NewGen33]

The thing about Europe is the countries are right next to each other so it isn't impossible to go through 3 or 4 in a day. And it is a global economic crisis. Not just the U.S. We arn't really of that much better than they are.
I agree with you as our economy is dependent on other countries just like we are theirs. I also know its very doable to cover numerous countries in a day.

[BanginJimmy]

all bush had to do was sit and look pretty since clinton left this country with a surplus but no.

I believe you have forgotten a few things along the way. Minor occurances such as a recession that Bush inheritted from Clinton and then 9/11 which required immediate and very drastic action.




pwned.

Yes you have been.

[BanginJimmy]

Europe is home away from home for me. I fit in just fine when i go back.

I would love to spend some time in Europe as everyone I know that has been there loved it.


I would default back to Aussie though if I could pick anywhere. The women there are the finest in the world. I would happily be the dirty old man with the zoom lense on the beach.

[Spagheddy]

Minor occurances such as a recession that Bush inheritted from Clinton.
yeah i dont really remember a recession when clinton was in office and if he did it was because we were putting an absolute retard into office a fucking machine thats primary purpose is to say yes/no could have done a better fucking job anyways who gives a flying fuck i have a job and if i lose it so what making unemployment would be about the same amount that i get payed weekly already so i do not give a shit, live your fucking life, like nike says just do it, dont like go live with the AMISH!

[Spagheddy]

bump... haha

[unkn0wndj]

Minor occurances such as a recession that Bush inheritted from Clinton.
yeah i dont really remember a recession when clinton was in office and if he did it was because we were putting an absolute retard into office a fucking machine thats primary purpose is to say yes/no could have done a better fucking job anyways who gives a flying fuck i have a job and if i lose it so what making unemployment would be about the same amount that i get payed weekly already so i do not give a shit, live your fucking life, like nike says just do it, dont like go live with the AMISH!

LMMFAO. You are quite uneducated and naive aswell. Clinton pushed banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford it. Ever heard the term ARM? I guess you forgot or just didn't know that we had a recession in the 80s which would show you that the 90s were going to prosper. Clinton sat down, did nothing, and took all the credit. When Bush got in he had a housing bubble created and intensifying and he also had 9/11 happen which was a reason to goto war. Normally when we get into a recession we create a war that opens jobs etc. Well were already in a war, people can't pay their bills because of greed, and the dollar is depreciating daily. I guess people didn't learn from The Great Depression and JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE CREDIT DON'T BUY SOMETHING YOU CAN'T AFFORD!

[90_ACCORD]

ill go to australia. looks like a nice place to be

[Deo Vindice]

You people just don't get it. If you have actually read the bill you would understand. 2/3's of the entire thing is pork spending which will do absolutly nothing but lengthen this recession. FDR already tried extream amounts of spending ot get out of a depression and guess what... It didn't work. You can thank little something called WWII for that. You can blame Bush if you want and say that this spending is needed... But wasn't it Clinton who strengthened the Community Reinvestment Act, forcing banks to "limit discriminitory lending practices" and loan money to people who had ZERO means of ever paying it back? The "dream" of allowing every American own a home was the first mistake. If any of you would have looked into that then you would understand the real cause for the crumbling of the housing market over the past 2 years.

And Spagheddy, your "oh well, I'll just make unemployment" comment is exactly what is wrong with this country. People are too dependent on the Gov't. The Framers of our Constitution set our country up as the opposite if you remember... A Gov't dependent on the people, because isn't that what a Republic truely is? This is a Democratc Republic, not socialism.

[Total_Blender]

This war has obviously failed to create jobs and its stretched our military dangerously thin. How do you guys think a world war would effect us? Considering most of America is against the war we have now, I don't think people would pull together like they did for WWII.

Also, there was a recession after WWII as well because defense production backed off and the returning vets couldn't all get jobs. Just something else to consider... the jobs created by war are temporary at best.

And as far as unemployment goes, unempolyment is paid by the employers who pay into the state unemployment insurance fund. Which they take from the worker's wages. So if you qualify for unemployment then you paid into unemployment. It is not a handout.

[AirMax95]

I would love to partake in this thread, but I must ask that you at least seperate that jumbled paragraph into 2 or 3. Please, lol?

[Total_Blender]

I would love to partake in this thread, but I must ask that you at least seperate that jumbled paragraph into 2 or 3. Please, lol?

I stopped reading it about halfway through. Its really nothing we haven't heard before.

Here's .gif summary of the giant wall of text:
http://www.badboyscout.com/uploads/piss-and-vinegar-chips.jpg

[BanginJimmy]

Also, there was a recession after WWII as well because defense production backed off and the returning vets couldn't all get jobs. Just something else to consider... the jobs created by war are temporary at best.


That recessin wasnt really a recession in the actual sense. It took factories alot of time to retool back to civilian markets and they really didnt need many people at all to do that. As a result, alot of people were laid off, then added to that number, the millions of men coming back from overseas. On top of that, supply lines had to be rebuilt, people had to be trained, and the dozens of other tasks that I cant think of right now because they are simply part of doing business.

As soon as the factories were putting out civilian good against the country's economy went into such an upswing that existing factories couldnt even begin to send out enough goods to keep up with demand.

[ahabion]

As soon as the factories were putting out civilian good against the country's economy went into such an upswing that existing factories couldnt even begin to send out enough goods to keep up with demand.

Exactly, then came the realization of global trade which corporations like Walmart and Nike and stuff sent all their labor and production off to cheap labor places like China, Malasia, and India. Now $hit comes in and nothing (worth noting) goes out. We as an American public definitely need to open up our eyes to the rest of the world, especially our economy. It's a domino affect, which if this continues, is going to make desperate people into a desperate nation. And desperate people will do some crazy things they would not normally do.

[BanginJimmy]

For a long time technology was pretty much based only in the US, germany, and japan. Now the US is getting dumber, and technology is getting more user friendly so it can be more easily manufactured. Those same 3 countires still lead the world by a VERY wide margin in technology breakthroughs, but it is no longer enough to sustain our economy without our own manufacturing base. I have actually seen some writings that say the US no longer has the manufacturing base to fight, and win WWII.