Mexican drug violence grows...

[OnURleft]

Mexican drug violence spills over into the US

Just as government officials had feared, the drug violence raging in Mexico is spilling over into the United States.
U.S. authorities are reporting a spike in killings, kidnappings and home invasions connected to Mexico's murderous cartels. And to some policymakers' surprise, much of the violence is happening not in towns along the border, where it was assumed the bloodshed would spread, but a considerable distance away, in places such as Phoenix and Atlanta.

Investigators fear the violence could erupt elsewhere around the country because the Mexican cartels are believed to have set up drug-dealing operations all over the U.S., in such far-flung places as Anchorage, Alaska; Boston; and Sioux Falls, S.D.

"The violence follows the drugs," said David Cuthbertson, agent in charge of the FBI's office in the border city of El Paso, Texas.

The violence takes many forms: Drug customers who owe money are kidnapped until they pay up. Cartel employees who don't deliver the goods or turn over the profits are disciplined through beatings, kidnappings or worse. And drug smugglers kidnap illegal immigrants in clashes with human smugglers over the use of secret routes from Mexico.

So far, the violence is nowhere near as grisly as the mayhem in Mexico, which has witnessed beheadings, assassinations of police officers and soldiers, and mass killings in which the bodies were arranged to send a message. But law enforcement officials worry the violence on this side could escalate.

"They are capable of doing about anything," said Rusty Payne, a Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman in Washington. "When you are willing to chop heads off, put them in an ice chest and drop them off at a police precinct, or roll a head into a disco, put beheadings on YouTube as a warning," very little is off limits.

In an apartment near Birmingham, Ala., police found five men with their throats slit in August. They had apparently been tortured with electric shocks before being killed in a murder-for-hire orchestrated by a Mexican drug organization over a drug debt of about $400,000.

In Phoenix, 150 miles north of the Mexican border, police have reported a sharp increase in kidnappings and home invasions, with about 350 each year for the last two years, and say the majority were committed at the behest of the Mexican drug gangs.

In June, heavily armed men stormed a Phoenix house and fired randomly, killing one person. Police believe it was the work of Mexican drug organizations.

Authorities in Atlanta are also seeing an increase in drug-related kidnappings tied to Mexican cartels. Estimates of how many such crimes are being committed are hard to come by because many victims are connected to the cartels and unwilling to go to the police, said Rodney G. Benson, DEA agent in charge in Atlanta.

Agents said they have rarely seen such brutality in the U.S. since the "Miami Vice" years of the 1980s, when Colombian cartels had the corner on the cocaine market in Florida.

Last summer, Atlanta-area police found a Dominican man who had been beaten, bound, gagged and chained to a wall in a quiet, middle-class neighborhood in Lilburn, Ga. The 31-year-old Rhode Island resident owed $300,000 to Mexico's Gulf Cartel, Benson said. The Gulf Cartel, based in Matamoros just south of the Texas border, is one of the most ruthless of the Mexican organizations that deal drugs such as cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and heroin.
"He was shackled to a wall and one suspect had an AK-47. The guy was in bad shape," Benson said. "I have no doubt in my mind if that ransom wasn't paid, he was going to be killed."

In July, Atlanta-area police shot and killed a suspected kidnapper while he was trying to pick up a $2 million ransom owed to his cartel bosses, Benson said.

State and federal governments have sent millions of dollars to local law enforcement along the Mexican border to help fend off spillover drug crime. But investigators believe Arizona and Atlanta are seeing the worst of the violence because they are major drug distribution hubs thanks to their webs of interstate highways.

In fact, drug officials have dubbed Atlanta "the new Southwest border," said Jack Killorin, a former federal drug agent and director of the Atlanta region's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area task force.

El Paso, population 600,000, is only a quarter-mile away from Mexico's Ciudad Juarez, which has seen open gun battles and 1,700 murders in the last year. But El Paso remains one of America's safest cities, something Cuthbertson said is probably a result of the huge law enforcement presence in town, including thousands of Border Patrol and customs agents.

In the past year, more than 5,000 people have been killed across Mexico in a power struggle among Mexico's drug cartels and ferocious fighting between them and the Mexican government. The cartels have established operations in at least 230 U.S. cities, according to the Justice Department's National Drug Intelligence Center.
Payne said the U.S. and Mexico are working together to pressure the warring cartels. Payne cited the extradition of high-level drug suspects - four members of the Arellano Felix cartel in Tijuana were brought to the U.S. in December - and the capture or killings of several other top cartel leaders across Mexico in the past year.

"We have to make sure that we attack these criminal organizations at every level so that we are safer not only in Mexico and on the Southwest border, but here in the rest of the country," Payne said.

While some Americans may feel victimized by the spillover of violence, others are contributing to it. Americans provide 95 percent of the weapons used by the cartel, according to U.S. authorities. And Americans are the cartels' best customers, sending an estimated $28.5 billion in drug-sale proceeds across the Mexico border each year.

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[Deo Vindice]

tl;dr

[Julio]

Typical drug shit..

Don't seem random to me.... sounds like some people tried to rip off some drug dealers....
This been going on for years.. Nothing new here...

[SampaGuy]

Typical drug shit..

Don't seem random to me.... sounds like some people tried to rip off some drug dealers....
This been going on for years.. Nothing new here...


Actually it used to be much more peaceful. Then Calderon was elected in 2007 and made it clear he just won't put up with corruption, causing hell to break lose. It is now more likely for you to be kidnapped in Mexico then in Colombia, or anywhere in latin america...

[OnURleft]

Actually it used to be much more peaceful. Then Calderon was elected in 2007 and made it clear he just won't put up with corruption, causing hell to break lose. It is now more likely for you to be kidnapped in Mexico then in Colombia, or anywhere in latin america...

Yes you are right. Mexico has been in the lime light as far as drug violence. It is absolutely crazy down there.

[B18c1Turboed]

My uncles Ex-wife and 8 year old daughter where killed. She was dating a big time drug player and he stole money from cartel. They couldnt find him so they killed her and her daughter. She has 2 other daughters that are in hiding now. THis happened in Mexcali.

And one of my Cousins was beheaded also. Not sure about the whole story, But the cartel sent his head to his wife.

Another story, one of the top drug cartel guys fell out of a helicopter. Watching the baja 1000, his goons got in a huge shoot out with the police trying too recover his body. Then they went and bomed the police station that night.

My parents have a vaction house down there, they have been living their for over a year. They tell me its crazy over there right now!!!!

[Deke]

Drugs are bad, mmkay.

Seriously, it sucks when these completely innocent people are getting killed in the mix-up, and since that is happening all of this violence should be a concern, but I'm not really too worried about a drug dealer getting killed by the cartel.

[§treet_§peed]

now they are gonna beg the us for money. wait and see.

[cactusEG]

Damn thats fucking nuts. I've been to Matamoros plenty of times, that city is really bad...

[G.C]

Nothing new.

[FlipKing]

Did anyone else click on this link expecting a joke?

[nismo_92]

dang....thats bad

[Max_nino]

im from an hour away from matamoros in reynosa. in november they were gonna send a big time player to mexico city and the gulf cartel tried everything they could to take the guy off the cops hands . they have military patroling the city but its worthless they go after the wrong people .

[§treet_§peed]

nope i have been watching this on the news for the last couple of months. seeing it get worse and worse as time went on... soon it will spill over the the states and they'll expect us to fix everything as usual.

[TIGERJC]

I see arm guards on the border that will shoot anything that attempts to cross the border in the near future, hopefully soon though

[civictR]

on that new here?

[BanginJimmy]

I see arm guards on the border that will shoot anything that attempts to cross the border in the near future, hopefully soon though

x2, The mexican invasion needs to end

[TheGodfather]

Lord, just build the fucking wall already. Make it huge, and electric at the top.

Stop those fucking illegals from getting over here, stand with flamethrowers and M16's along the border. Have snipers. Stop those resource leaching bastards from destroying my country.

[FAM0U5]

x2, The mexican nivasion needs tgo end
:screwy:

Wow after reading this; this puts another fear into perpesctive. I knew that things were bad and how bad they COULD get but I guess i never realize that people would go to great heights such as public killings and beheadings. I know that if you had a wife with you at the time of your hit they would run a train on her while you watch helpless and make her into a whore if they dont kill her...

[One_Bad_SHO]

Mexicans - I thank you for the burrito supreme, the pinata, and the excellent work you've done on my front lawn. But please, gtfo.

Enough is enough.

[Maniacc]

You cracker-jack motherfuckers are fucking crazy to think this drug war will somehow bring upon a magical law that'll officially lock down the border haha. The Mexican mafia already has control of most the west coast and now with drug lords moving further into the US it's going to be a lot tougher to get rid of the killing and drugs.

These lowlife piss infested fucks aren't planning on staying here anyways. They just want their business to succeed and that's all. They could care less about all the whiny spoiled little fucktards known as Americans.

[Okie_doke.]

Mexicans - I thank you for the burrito supreme, the pinata, and the excellent work you've done on my front lawn. But please, gtfo.

Enough is enough.

Damn man thats kinda harsh don't you think? A lot off latinos are good people they just get a bad wrap from everyone else

[Maniacc]

Damn man thats kinda harsh don't you think? A lot off latinos are good people they just get a bad wrap from everyone else
That's the problem with a lot of cock choking arrogant pile of donkey shit americans. They're so quick to criticize other people but are blind to the shitstains that they really are. I always hear - they took our jobs! No you fucking retard your boss just saw how fucking lazy, over-weight, untrust worthy shit for brains that you are and decided to hire a hard working latino named Carlos. They try to blame hispanics for a lot of their problems which is totally fucking lame because they're the ones who fucked up and are too fucking stupid to realize it.

Buncha bitches. Crying every chance they can always depending on the government to help them. *pff.. poor delusional faggots.

[One_Bad_SHO]

Damn man thats kinda harsh don't you think? A lot off latinos are good people they just get a bad wrap from everyone else

I was kidding. I love beaners.

Now Venezuelans... thats a different story.

[One_Bad_SHO]

I always hear - they took our jobs! No you fucking retard your boss just saw how fucking lazy, over-weight, untrust worthy shit for brains that you are and decided to hire a hard working latino named Carlos.


Keep in mind that some businesses/corporations figured out that they could pay Carlos less do do the same job that John was doing,thus reducing payroll. "They took our jobs" isn't really "their" fault, but thats how it's viewed in the eyes of those not familiar with business.

[Maniacc]

Keep in mind that some businesses/corporations figured out that they could pay Carlos less do do the same job that John was doing,thus reducing payroll. "They took our jobs" isn't really "their" fault, but thats how it's viewed in the eyes of those not familiar with business.
They would pay Carlos less because that fucking beaner is too lazy to learn english. Now, if I were in his position I'd be getting paid more than John because not only do I speak perfect English and Spanish but I am also a hard worker.

[Kevykev]

Crazy Article, that shit is intense, movie status!

[cactusEG]

Crazy Article, that shit is intense, movie status!

next blow or scarface ?

[Okie_doke.]

All I'm saying is if your gonna live here don't make it any worse than it already is i.e. crime rate. And mexican is some of the best food for some reason. I could eat that stuff 6 1/2 days a week

[_Christian_]

Crazy stuff. We could use that wall right about now. From another perspective, if drugs were legal the cartels wouldn't be in business.

[cactusEG]

Crazy stuff. We could use that wall right about now. From another perspective, if drugs were legal the cartels wouldn't be in business.

what mkes u think that would stop other countries from smuggling ?

[Atlblkz06]

Hey maybe if they all kill each other and die - maybe we wont have a drug problem?

[BanginJimmy]

Crazy stuff. We could use that wall right about now. From another perspective, if drugs were legal the cartels wouldn't be in business.


You would just have a crime rate go through the roof because of all the crack heads trying to score.


Legal mexicans do get a bad rap from the lazy shitheads that come to this country, commit crimes then run back to mexico or just stay here and let us support them for however long they are here. I believe any illegal that is arrested should be microchipped, like a dog, that way they can be tracked when they come back.

Another idea would be to just invade mexico. Break it up into a dozen more states and call it a day. It would also make a much shorter southern border. A visible Cartel like they have there would be under control pretty quickly.

[§treet_§peed]

why not just send a few nukes there way? with Viva La Mexico written on them.

[§treet_§peed]

That's the problem with a lot of cock choking arrogant pile of donkey shit americans. They're so quick to criticize other people but are blind to the shitstains that they really are. I always hear - they took our jobs! No you fucking retard your boss just saw how fucking lazy, over-weight, untrust worthy shit for brains that you are and decided to hire a hard working latino named Carlos. They try to blame hispanics for a lot of their problems which is totally fucking lame because they're the ones who fucked up and are too fucking stupid to realize it.

Buncha bitches. Crying every chance they can always depending on the government to help them. *pff.. poor delusional faggots.ok Alex, explain all the illegals that steal SSN to get a job? then send all the money back to mexico.....Or the legals that come over here and still send all of their money back to mexico... that is what 97.9% of them do.

[§treet_§peed]

Also, we are way to kind and lenient with Illegals in this country. Do you really think half the shit that we let happen here would fly in another country? answer is FUCK NO. that little thing about wanting to make all the illegals legal was the stupidest thing i have ever heard of and im sure many others would agree too.

[BanginJimmy]

Also, we are way to kind and lenient with Illegals in this country. Do you really think half the shit that we let happen here would fly in another country? answer is FUCK NO. that little thing about wanting to make all the illegals legal was the stupidest thing i have ever heard of and im sure many others would agree too.

The amnesty ting was tried in the 80's. It lead to a HUGE increase in illegals coming across the border.

[§treet_§peed]

The amnesty ting was tried in the 80's. It lead to a HUGE increase in illegals coming across the border.If i am correct, i do believe i remember Obama saying that was one thing he planed on doing. its funny tho, i heard last year from a bunch of illegals i knew thru the place i used to work were leaving to go back to mexico and they did. they also said they knew of many others that were doing the same thing.

[_Christian_]

what mkes u think that would stop other countries from smuggling ?
They wouldn't be here, so I really don't care.

You would just have a crime rate go through the roof because of all the crack heads trying to score.

Legal=cheaper prices for crackheads=less crime to commit to get that fix.

[01CDMLUDER]

Lord, just build the fucking wall already. Make it huge, and electric at the top.

Stop those fucking illegals from getting over here, stand with flamethrowers and M16's along the border. Have snipers. Stop those resource leaching bastards from destroying my country.

They would just dig under it!
I saw a story on the news a few years ago were this drug cartel had made these people dig a long ass tunnel from Tijuana to california and then killed some of them so they wouldn't tell about the tunnel.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_MEXICO_DRUG5_060126_ssh.jpghttp://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_MEXICO_DRUG3_060126_ssh.jpg

Here's the link (http://http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.10news.com/2006/0127/6501651_240X180.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.10news.com/news/6502259/detail.html&usg=__zqpP7k9BH45uRdGDiuSndaLR2qk=&h=180&w=240&sz=8&hl=en&start=17&um=1&tbnid=HQu8HfMgf1wsaM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmexican%2Bdrug%2Btunnel%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26sa%3DN)

[_Christian_]

They would just dig under it!
I saw a story on the news a few years ago were this drug cartel had made these people dig a long ass tunnel from Tijuana to california and then killed some of them so they wouldn't tell about the tunnel.


The amount that get through would still be minimal by comparison. Compare the amount of time/effort that takes to crossing over an invisible line.

[§treet_§peed]

They would just dig under it!
I saw a story on the news a few years ago were this drug cartel had made these people dig a long ass tunnel from Tijuana to california and then killed some of them so they wouldn't tell about the tunnel.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_MEXICO_DRUG5_060126_ssh.jpghttp://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_MEXICO_DRUG3_060126_ssh.jpg

Here's the link (http://http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.10news.com/2006/0127/6501651_240X180.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.10news.com/news/6502259/detail.html&usg=__zqpP7k9BH45uRdGDiuSndaLR2qk=&h=180&w=240&sz=8&hl=en&start=17&um=1&tbnid=HQu8HfMgf1wsaM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmexican%2Bdrug%2Btunnel%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26sa%3DN)i also remember seeing this story. i was thinking of something that to me, would be honestly funny as fuck to do. wait until they are making a big move in that tunnel. take control of both ends. and start pumping full of tear gas or something. o my and the LuLz that could be had.

[BanginJimmy]

If i am correct, i do believe i remember Obama saying that was one thing he planed on doing. its funny tho, i heard last year from a bunch of illegals i knew thru the place i used to work were leaving to go back to mexico and they did. they also said they knew of many others that were doing the same thing.


Yes Obama did say he was going to push another amnesty bill.

I have heard that the number of people coming to this country has gone down and other are leaving, but there are still an estimated 30 million illegals in the country. The people that are leaving are the ones that were actually working and not leaching the system. The ones staying are simply leaching the system and committing crimes at a rate that far surpasses any other racial group. Dont get the meaning of that last sentence wrong either. I am not talking about mexicans as a whole, only the illegals.

[BanginJimmy]

i also remember seeing this story. i was thinking of something that to me, would be honestly funny as fuck to do. wait until they are making a big move in that tunnel. take control of both ends. and start pumping full of tear gas or something. o my and the LuLz that could be had.


Tear gas would be fun. I would volunteer to open the valve too.

[§treet_§peed]

Yes Obama did say he was going to push another amnesty bill.

I have heard that the number of people coming to this country has gone down and other are leaving, but there are still an estimated 30 million illegals in the country. The people that are leaving are the ones that were actually working and not leaching the system. The ones staying are simply leaching the system and committing crimes at a rate that far surpasses any other racial group. Dont get the meaning of that last sentence wrong either. I am not talking about mexicans as a whole, only the illegals.i agree with you. i have no problem what so ever with legals that come over here work pay their taxes and bills, and help the economy. but the ones that dont do any of that shit and suck us dry i fucking despise no matter who they are.

[§treet_§peed]

Tear gas would be fun. I would volunteer to open the valve too.o i would love to be there letting it spray too. maybe a mixture of tear gas, CS, and CN would be a little more spice of fun lol.

[OnURleft]

next blow or scarface ?

That's what I was thinking..



I honestly, 100%, think it should just be legalized.

[§treet_§peed]

as far as anything being legal i think pot should be. thats about it, just treat it like alcohol. no smoking and driving.

[SicStang03]

If only all the junkies would DIAF the drug world would die too

[BanginJimmy]

I honestly, 100%, think it should just be legalized.

So you would have no problems with crackheads living on your street? What happens when they need to score and have no money? Do you think they will just decide not to get any because they are broke? No, they will do exactly what crackheads do now. They will rob and kill to get the money to get their next fix. The legality of crack will not change that.

How about this, do you want to work at the store that sells it? No bars, no bullet proof glass, just you in the open telling the crackhead that a BJ will not get him or her a hit, only $20 will.

Next, if you were a business owner, would you hire a crack head to stock shelves for you? How about run a drill press for you? Maybe man a cash register for you?


Do you still think all drugs should be legal?

[cactusEG]

why not just send a few nukes there way? with Viva La Mexico written on them.

Fucking dumb ass ! Always making worthless post..


They wouldn't be here, so I really don't care.

Legal=cheaper prices for crackheads=less crime to commit to get that fix.

Are u talking about drugs or illegal ppl ?

That's what I was thinking..



I honestly, 100%, think it should just be legalized.

weed maybe ( I dont smoke the shit) but meth and other hard core drugs, NO!

[OnURleft]

So you would have no problems with crackheads living on your street? What happens when they need to score and have no money? Do you think they will just decide not to get any because they are broke? No, they will do exactly what crackheads do now. They will rob and kill to get the money to get their next fix. The legality of crack will not change that.

How about this, do you want to work at the store that sells it? No bars, no bullet proof glass, just you in the open telling the crackhead that a BJ will not get him or her a hit, only $20 will.

Next, if you were a business owner, would you hire a crack head to stock shelves for you? How about run a drill press for you? Maybe man a cash register for you?


Do you still think all drugs should be legal?

Who said anything about crack? What is this thread about or do you fail to comprehend it. Did you read the article?

[Maniacc]

ok Alex, explain all the illegals that steal SSN to get a job? then send all the money back to mexico.....Or the legals that come over here and still send all of their money back to mexico... that is what 97.9% of them do.
There is nothing for me to explain.

A shit load of illegals steal SSNs. Do you want me to explain how they do it? Haha, it's actually really fucking simple. Go to buford hwy, in a secret location, tell the person what you want. Come back an hour later and BAM - you have yourself a fake social security number.

And yea, a lot of latinos do send money back to their country. Wanna know why? Because the majority of them send money back to help their mothers & fathers'. Aunts, brothers, ect. To help them survive over there. Some if their really loaded send money to have a house built which would only cost about 20-30k in american dollars. Then you would have yourself a nice house -usually three stories next to the sea with a nice mango tree in your backyard with no worries in the world. You see, beaners are not fucking stupid! They don't come here to slack off - make money, make money, save save and save is all they came here to do.

Also, where the fuck did you get 97.9%? Show me where you got those statistics from.

[§treet_§peed]

There is nothing for me to explain.

A shit load of illegals steal SSNs. Do you want me to explain how they do it? Haha, it's actually really fucking simple. Go to buford hwy, in a secret location, tell the person what you want. Come back an hour later and BAM - you have yourself a fake social security number.

And yea, a lot of latinos do send money back to their country. Wanna know why? Because the majority of them send money back to help their mothers & fathers'. Aunts, brothers, ect. To help them survive over there. Some if their really loaded send money to have a house built which would only cost about 20-30k in american dollars. Then you would have yourself a nice house -usually three stories next to the sea with a nice mango tree in your backyard with no worries in the world. You see, beaners are not fucking stupid! They don't come here to slack off - make money, make money, save save and save is all they came here to do.

Also, where the fuck did you get 97.9%? Show me where you got those statistics from.its an estimation. You missed me whole point btw. i was not asking to explain how they do it. I was simply asking you how to explain that those which do that were not pieces of shit. They are. The point i was trying to make was the simple fact we are loosing to those doing what i said.

[§treet_§peed]

Fucking dumb ass ! Always making worthless post..



Are u talking about drugs or illegal ppl ?


weed maybe ( I dont smoke the shit) but meth and other hard core drugs, NO!no not really. that would solve many problems.

[cactusEG]

its an estimation. You missed me whole point btw. i was not asking to explain how they do it. I was simply asking you how to explain that those which do that were not pieces of shit. They are. The point i was trying to make was the simple fact we are loosing to those doing what i said.

if u dont kown what the fuck ur talking about dont open ur damn trap ! easy as that..



no not really. that would solve many problems.

But u are still here ?

[Maniacc]

if u dont kown what the fuck ur talking about dont open ur damn trap ! easy as that..
Hahaha, he clearly doesn't.

He thinks that just because a few hispanics send money back to their country to help their families - that they are 'pieces of shit.' And making random ass 'estimations' on how many hispanics actually send money back to their country without any facts - just a guess. Not even an 'educated guess' just a guess. I mean, really? :lmao:

[SampaGuy]

I like how most of you ignored this part of the article:


Americans provide 95 percent of the weapons used by the cartel, according to U.S. authorities. And Americans are the cartels' best customers, sending an estimated $28.5 billion in drug-sale proceeds across the Mexico border each year.


Their AK47s, tunnels, etc. are financed by you .

[OneSlow5pt0]

ofcourse since americans are bunch of drug addicts.......

[BanginJimmy]

[b]

Who said anything about crack? What is this thread about or do you fail to comprehend it. Did you read the article?


Well the article is about kidnappings and murder so I guess you think that should be legal? You are actually dumber than I thought you were.

[BanginJimmy]

weed maybe ( I dont smoke the shit) but meth and other hard core drugs, NO!

I think weed would be extremely hard to regulate, even harder than either alcohol or tobacco because of the illegal trade already in existance and people would still buy the illegal weed because it would be cheaper and most likely more potent.

On the other side, I cannot think of a single reason to outlaw weed, but not tobacco or alcohol. If anything alcohol is the most dangerous of the 3.

[OneSlow5pt0]

id like tobacco and alcohol outlawed.

but maybe thats just me.

[BanginJimmy]

id like tobacco and alcohol outlawed.

but maybe thats just me.


Like I said, it wouldnt affect in me any way if they did. Just think of the massive amounts of money that would be saved by insurance companies if they could drop coverage from someone that smoked calling it a preexisting condition or voluntary. I would imagine that ALL insurance premiums would drop by about 50% immediately.

[cactusEG]

Hahaha, he clearly doesn't.

He thinks that just because a few hispanics send money back to their country to help their families - that they are 'pieces of shit.' And making random ass 'estimations' on how many hispanics actually send money back to their country without any facts - just a guess. Not even an 'educated guess' just a guess. I mean, really? :lmao:

I know Matt in person. From talking to him hes always unemployed and bitching
he can't find a job.

Hmmm, I wonder why? He must the that lazy white boy who thinks he above everyone.

Sitting down as the production line (more than likely, mostly latinos) bust their ass.

Then she wants to bitch about getting fired and "mexicans stealing jobs". GET UR LAZY ASS UP AND WORK ! !

But im getting off topic.Its about drug cartels....

[cactusEG]

I think weed would be extremely hard to regulate, even harder than either alcohol or tobacco because of the illegal trade already in existance and people would still buy the illegal weed because it would be cheaper and most likely more potent.

On the other side, I cannot think of a single reason to outlaw weed, but not tobacco or alcohol. If anything alcohol is the most dangerous of the 3.

I can agree on that. But I bet alot of the ppl who smoke it will try to grow their own.


I like how most of you ignored this part of the article:




Their AK47s, tunnels, etc. are financed by you .

+26

[Friggintitsman]

They should kill each other off. It will save us money on having to deport them.

[seriousb13]

I can agree on that. But I bet alot of the ppl who smoke it will try to grow their own.

make it illegal to grow also!

[OnURleft]

Well the article is about kidnappings and murder so I guess you think that should be legal? You are actually dumber than I thought you were.

The entire topic of the article and the entire thread is about marijuana cartel's and how the violence is escalating. Ask your mother to read it for you.

[BanginJimmy]

The entire topic of the article and the entire thread is about marijuana cartel's and how the violence is escalating. Ask your mother to read it for you.

Those drug cartels are moving alot more than just marijuana. I would like you to point out where it says what drgs they are importing.

Dont worry if you need to look up the big words. I have time to wait.

[BanginJimmy]

The entire topic of the article and the entire thread is about marijuana cartel's and how the violence is escalating. Ask your mother to read it for you.

Those drug cartels are moving alot more than just marijuana. I would like you to point out where it says what drugs they are importing.

Dont worry if you need to look up the big words. I have time to wait.

[OnURleft]

Those drug cartels are moving alot more than just marijuana. I would like you to point out where it says what drugs they are importing.

Dont worry if you need to look up the big words. I have time to wait.

Your asking me to point out the obvious. Again, have your mother do that for you, i'm not going to spoon feed common sense.

[BanginJimmy]

Your asking me to point out the obvious. Again, have your mother do that for you, i'm not going to spoon feed common sense.

What is obvious? The article never says anything about what drugs are being smuggled. If you think that the only drug that comes out of or through mexico is marijuana then say that and I can simply laugh at you instead of playing this game.

[§treet_§peed]

I know Matt in person. From talking to him hes always unemployed and bitching
he can't find a job.

Hmmm, I wonder why? He must the that lazy white boy who thinks he above everyone.

Sitting down as the production line (more than likely, mostly latinos) bust their ass.

Then she wants to bitch about getting fired and "mexicans stealing jobs". GET UR LAZY ASS UP AND WORK ! !

But im getting off topic.Its about drug cartels....lol actually i have had a job doing something. from learning to pierce and tattoo. to working at sears, gas stations, or what have you. It is//was an educational guess considering thats what happens the MAJORITY of the time. I don't think im above everyone. Jose. You haven't had a job that i can recal since i have known you neither have you Alex. Also not all Latinos bust their ass like you two would like to think, i know this from experience of working at different places. the moajority of hispanics i've worked with would do whatever they could to slip by. Also notice how its you two that are the only ones jumping me? I won't mention both of your Ethinicies. either way.

[Maniacc]

lol actually i have had a job doing something. from learning to pierce and tattoo. to working at sears, gas stations, or what have you. It is//was an educational guess considering thats what happens the MAJORITY of the time. I don't think im above everyone. Jose. You haven't had a job that i can recal since i have known you neither have you Alex. Also not all Latinos bust their ass like you two would like to think, i know this from experience of working at different places. the moajority of hispanics i've worked with would do whatever they could to slip by. Also notice how its you two that are the only ones jumping me? I won't mention both of your Ethinicies. either way.
Hahaha, I haven't had a job since you've known me? Get the hell outta here with that shit, Matt.

Do you know what I do now? I'm a bartender. I have a bank account with money in it. I have a decent ride that I pay for every month - I'm a hard worker. I earn the respect in every job I've worked in because I am a hard worker. I've never made fun of you or your past experinces that everyone sits here and makes fun of you for it. But for you to call illegals(mexicans since everyone just assumes we're the only ones) pieces of shit? And pretty much trying to put us(me) down not only do you have to be fucking kidding me but you have got to be fucking uneducated as fuck!

Yes Jose and I are 'jumping' you... because you're posting up nothing but bullshit. Guessing and obviously pulling shit outta your ass. I can't stand stupidity and right now you're looking like a complete fucking jackass. Get educated on the subject first before trying to tackle it down.

[§treet_§peed]

Hahaha, I haven't had a job since you've known me? Get the hell outta here with that shit, Matt.

Do you know what I do now? I'm a bartender. I have a bank account with money in it. I have a decent ride that I pay for every month - I'm a hard worker. I earn the respect in every job I've worked in because I am a hard worker. I've never made fun of you or your past experinces that everyone sits here and makes fun of you for it. But for you to call illegals(mexicans since everyone just assumes we're the only ones) pieces of shit? And pretty much trying to put us(me) down not only do you have to be fucking kidding me but you have got to be fucking uneducated as fuck!

Yes Jose and I are 'jumping' you... because you're posting up nothing but bullshit. Guessing and obviously pulling shit outta your ass. I can't stand stupidity and right now you're looking like a complete fucking jackass. Get educated on the subject first before trying to tackle it down.Im happy for you. i didn't know you had a job now. I had a bad ass job until i got laid off due to business going to shit. now i work at a convenient store making around 300 a week, to where a few months ago i was making 600-700 a week. But, while i was making money i did manage to put around 7k in the bank now i have like 5k due to not having a job for about 3 months. anyways all that aside im paying for a house plan on getting a new car in april as well. anyways, that is what i get from my experiences and especially in gainesville. everyone from around here knows that the majority of hispanics in this town are illegal. just go down atlanta highway on any given morning and you'll see atleas 100 standing around. im not really guessing im going off experiences and what i know.

[WickedIXMR]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/WickedIXMR/l_7dc3b2fb4a48d2f50291d1d766c60bed.jpg

[§treet_§peed]

o wow good one

[WickedIXMR]

o wow good one
Shut the fuck up. You're a fucking faggot.

[§treet_§peed]

you shut the fuck up you veitnamese bitch

[§treet_§peed]

why don't you make me shut the fuck up. you have pictures of me saved on your computer seems like your the fag not me.

[WickedIXMR]

why don't you make me shut the fuck up. you have pictures of me saved on your computer seems like your more of a fag than me.
Try photobucket dumb fuck. You're a pussy ass bitch. Why dont you go brag about you fucking the ugliest bitch in the world and then make threads crying because she dumped you and then talk about how you tried to kill yourself overdosing on pills. Man you really are a worthless piece of shit.

[§treet_§peed]

Try photobucket dumb fuck. You're a pussy ass bitch. Why dont you go brag about you fucking the ugliest bitch in the world and then make threads crying because she dumped you and then talk about how you tried to kill yourself overdosing on pills. Man you really are a worthless piece of shit.why don't we talk about you? fuck you what the fuck are you gonna do? even if i called you out you would never show. to bussy sucking on your moms tit for money. spoiled fag.

[WickedIXMR]

why don't we talk about you? fuck you what the fuck are you gonna do? even if i called you out you would never show. to bussy sucking on your moms tit for money. spoiled fag.
What about me? I'm not a worthless piece of shit like you and deff can pull lot better tail then you so dont hate. It must suck ass to be you huh? I can understand why you tried to off yourself now. We can meet up if you want to I'm not scared of your pussy ass. Question is what are YOU gonna do? Seems like you're the one thats mad. Do you even have enough gas money to meet up? Must suck making 300 dollars a week. I wont be too "bussy" next week.

[§treet_§peed]

What about me? I'm not a worthless piece of shit like you and deff can pull lot better tail then you so dont hate. It must suck ass to be you huh? I can understand why you tried to off yourself now. We can meet up if you want to I'm not scared of your pussy ass. Question is what are YOU gonna do? Seems like you're the one thats mad. Do you even have enough gas money to meet up? Must suck making 300 dollars a week. I wont be too "bussy" next week.you think thats the only ass i can get? lol i was hung up on her what can i say. it happens to everyone at some point. no i have the gas money and it does suck making what i make but this is only a temp job. no im not mad. i just wish you would get over yourself and that picture. you post it up so much it sorta makes me think you masturbate to it on a daily basis.

[WickedIXMR]

you think thats the only ass i can get? lol i was hung up on her what can i say. it happens to everyone at some point. no i have the gas money and it does suck making what i make but this is only a temp job. no im not mad. i just wish you would get over yourself and that picture. you post it up so much it sorta makes me think you masturbate to it on a daily basis.
Judging by how much of a loser you look like in your pictures, yes. Hung up on that? You have some low low standards. Does the picture bother you that much? Its still in my photobucket and I could careless about but its times like this where I think you are a complete dumbass to the point I just go and dig it up and show everyone how much of a loser you look like. I mean it would bother me too...I'd be embarressed if I was you. Why the hell would I masturbate to that?! I'd rather masturbate to 2 girls 1 cup. I mean the bitches there covered in shit looks hotter then your ex-girlfriend.

With that said, I'm going to stop wasting my finger energy on you and jack off to 2 girls 1 cup and go to sleep. :bump:

[§treet_§peed]

Judging by how much of a loser you look like in your pictures, yes. Hung up on that? You have some low low standards. Does the picture bother you that much? Its still in my photobucket and I could careless about but its times like this where I think you are a complete dumbass to the point I just go and dig it up and show everyone how much of a loser you look like. I mean it would bother me too...I'd be embarressed if I was you. Why the hell would I masturbate to that?! I'd rather masturbate to 2 girls 1 cup. I mean the bitches there covered in shit looks hotter then your ex-girlfriend.if you say so but you took the time to save it, and dig it up. should i feel flattered by your kindness to save a picture of me? how about you go suck daddy off for some more money.

[OnURleft]

lol at this thread

[§treet_§peed]

he tried to pull of the edit, but fail.

[cactusEG]

LMAO this thread went all wrong...

[Maniacc]

Im happy for you.
Anything after this is just a waste of time for anyone to read because I'm sure 97.9% of IA could careless about your life, Matt.

[§treet_§peed]

^ The same could be said for you, Alex.

[OnURleft]

Update!!!!!!

This happened recently at some local stores. 4 dead. It is also a little graphic.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e99_1234563883

[0p7!mu5]

Update!!!!!!

This happened recently at some local stores. 4 dead. It is also a little graphic.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e99_1234563883

damn... seriously no matter what the opinions are it is clear we need to be tougher on the borders not just from mexicans but from other countries as well. If we need a wall we need a fuckin wall period. and seriously regardless of what country they are from we need to crack down harder on people employing them and ones that get caught.
I doubt if this were in most other countries they would treat them the same. But on top of that seriously we gotta crack down on us bein dumb and buying shit too. You cant run a buisness if nobody is buyin sorry. Weed would be hard to legalize but it could be done just like with making alcohol it should be illegal to grow weed but buyin it fine i guess and tax it.
I did hear an intersting suggestion once that if they were going to make illegals legal I say there should be a process once they are found and within that process make them pay higher taxes somehow. That way they will be contributing whether they like it or not. I mean i have no sympathy if you got your ass here illegally and fuck shit up you can at least pay for it.
Sad part is that its very unlikely something seriously will ever be done until it gets real bad and both sides of the political spectrum gets off their ass.