b16 vs b18

[Coolguy]

I'm lookin to do a swap in 96 civic. I really don't know which one is better. I know someone knows or even had/done both. So please help me.
SI vs LS ?????

[NOCLUE]

Well my brother got b18, and my right hand man got b16, both got bottom end, LS got that torque on got deck b16 be killin that mid-range

B16A
HP: 170
Torque: 117 lb-ft
Redline: 8200rpm

B18b
HP: 142hp@6300rpm
Torque: 127lbs-ft@5200rpm
Redline: 6800rpm

[Humphrizzle]

my stock b16 in my full interior 00 Si with 245k miles not rebuilt is faster than a friend's old fully rebuilt brand spanking new b18b1 in his 97 integra.

by 1 car from 40-120

[NOCLUE]

teg, heavy then a civic, my bro had ls in his eg 4dr, it quick man
not that the 16 not cuz it is 2

[eYezs1ck]

i ran my buddy's eg with a LS when i had my b16a3 del sol. it was close but i pulled on him at the end

[bigdare23]

Ask yourself this question.


Do I want to be able to take off at the jump and get hawked down at the topend, or do I want to get a car or so put on me at the start and hopefully come back by the end of the race. Well thats the result when typical ls and b16 swap cars run. The ls jumps and the b16 comes back near the end (if the mods are close to being the same and the swaps are in the same chassis).

[seanrg1116]

^^^ YEP

B16= TOP END

LS= LOW END

[Sammich]

i'd do a b18c1 w/ a b16 trans IMHO

[Grimm Reeper]

lulz this is the first thread that I've seen that has the same question that's been asked before and no one flamed him for making it :lmfao: I guess you guys are growing a heart now lol :goodjob:



or if you have the money LS/V :thinking:

[Barefoot]

hold please make it clear.

b18a
b18b
b18c1
b18c5

there is more than just 1 b18 out there.


lulz this is the first thread that I've seen that has the same question that's been asked before and no one flamed him for making it :lmfao: I guess you guys are growing a heart now lol :goodjob:



or if you have the money LS/V :thinking:lol

[j0nbunklah0m]

i say if u can find a good deal on a b16 do it. if not ls turbo or ls vtec

[Tech5]

Go H2B or K

[Sammich]

or if you have the money LS/V :thinking:

i've seen numbers of a ls/vtec/cr/vtec and its almost yields the same numbers as a VTEC engine..i'd just go w/ a VTEC out of the box

[j0nbunklah0m]

i've seen numbers of a ls/vtec/cr/vtec and its almost yields the same numbers as a VTEC engine..i'd just go w/ a VTEC out of the box

true and with the money u save from the ls/v kit and fittings n w.e u can buy sum killa cams :bump:

[Sammich]

true and with the money u save from the ls/v kit and fittings n w.e u can buy sum killa cams :bump:

QFT

[Master Shake]

i'd do a b18c1 w/ a b16 trans IMHOthis is the route i would go with.

i just never really have been a fan of the b16, just doesn't have the low end tq. although, when built, you can have a fucking crazy high redline.

[Grimm Reeper]

i've seen numbers of a ls/vtec/cr/vtec and its almost yields the same numbers as a VTEC engine..i'd just go w/ a VTEC out of the box

Then I can't wait to see my numbers :D :ninja:

[Sammich]

this is the route i would go with.

i just never really have been a fan of the b16, just doesn't have the low end tq. although, when built, you can have a fucking crazy high redline.

yea..that combo is banana...i got my ass handed to me kind of serious when i had my gsr and my boy got a ek w/ that combo...it was kind of depressing:lmfao:

[yunglaosta]

go witta gsr

[Catnip]

i'd do a b18c1 w/ a b16 trans IMHO

STRAIGHT UP MUHFUGGIN TRUTH


GSR + B16 tranny = to speed with a quickness :goodjob:

[Sammich]

^ONLY bad thing is MPG lol. other than that b16 wins in all categories

[Catnip]

^ONLY bad thing is MPG lol. other than that b16 wins in all categories

I get 27mpgs on highway and city (yes, going 80mpg) and that's with a Skunk2 pro intake mani and 68mm throttle body ;)

[Sammich]

I get 27mpgs on highway and city (yes, going 80mpg) and that's with a Skunk2 pro intake mani and 68mm throttle body ;)

NOT BAD...BUT I USE TO DO 28-32MPG IN MY GSR...

[Catnip]

NOT BAD...BUT I USE TO DO 28-32MPG IN MY GSR...

Yea, the GSR 5th is just enough to drop it down a bit to get the extra. I cruise around town in 5th gear, using 4th might help me, but oh well. lol

[Sammich]

SPEED DEMON

[Catnip]

SPEED DEMON

LOL. 5th gear at 40mph

[J13eck]

Neither. Sell your honda

[Motivation]

(yes, going 80mpg)

You have to teach me this trick...

[Catnip]

You have to teach me this trick...

typo of a correction! totally backspaced and screwed up again!
:ninja:

[Motivation]

typo of a correction! totally backspaced and screwed up again!
:ninja:

Damn, thought you had a secret so I could get 80 mpg. :(


Think your dad might bring the camaro out there if I said there was someone bringing a 95-96 gsx out there to give him a good run? Seriously.

[Thighs]

get the b16. rpms ftw.

[Catnip]

Damn, thought you had a secret so I could get 80 mpg. :(


Think your dad might bring the camaro out there if I said there was someone bringing a 95-96 gsx out there to give him a good run? Seriously.

I can ask, but he's most likely working... we'll see, lol

[NOCLUE]

Ask yourself this question.


Do I want to be able to take off at the jump and get hawked down at the topend, or do I want to get a car or so put on me at the start and hopefully come back by the end of the race. Well thats the result when typical ls and b16 swap cars run. The ls jumps and the b16 comes back near the end (if the mods are close to being the same and the swaps are in the same chassis).

AGREED, i shot him a pm with this knowledge.:goodjob:

[jdm_crx_man]

ls's get boring on top end but b16's are all around fun motors

[Master Shake]

yea..that combo is banana...i got my ass handed to me kind of serious when i had my gsr and my boy got a ek w/ that combo...it was kind of depressing:lmfao:i was running a straight ls teg before and got my ass handed to me from a ls with b16 trans. i didn't know what to think of it.

[Sammich]

i was running a straight ls teg before and got my ass handed to me from a ls with b16 trans. i didn't know what to think of it.

that b16 trans is a fukin beast son i swear...if money is tight either to the ls or crv swap(i prefer the crv-b20) w/ the b16 trans..thats if money is a issue:goodjob:

[KevinT707]

Yes, the B16 lacks torque but you just have to get use to it; learn to utilize it's powerband since it lacks power anywhere out of VTEC + a VTEC motor will have more potential than a B18A/B.

This is assuming you only have 2 choices: B16 or B18A/B.

[Master Shake]

that b16 trans is a fukin beast son i swear...if money is tight either to the ls or crv swap(i prefer the crv-b20) w/ the b16 trans..thats if money is a issue:goodjob:the b20b gsr head and b16 trans.....just all motor, talk about raping someone. straight put someone to shame with the setup in a gutted crx.

edit: that would be the setup i would run with, IF you plan on going all motor, but for a boosted application, then gsr or ls/v with b16 trans.

on the other note, i'm done threadjacking, haha.

[Catnip]

the b20b gsr head and b16 trans.....just all motor, talk about raping someone. straight put someone to shame with the setup in a gutted crx.

edit: that would be the setup i would run with, IF you plan on going all motor, but for a boosted application, then gsr or ls/v with b16 trans.

on the other note, i'm done threadjacking, haha.


If you're boosting you don't want the short gears of a B16 tranny...

[Sentra]

b20 with b16 or type r tranny = Love

[Sentra]

the b20b gsr head and b16 trans.....just all motor, talk about raping someone. straight put someone to shame with the setup in a gutted crx.

edit: that would be the setup i would run with, IF you plan on going all motor, but for a boosted application, then gsr or ls/v with b16 trans.

on the other note, i'm done threadjacking, haha.

Prepare to be eating Ramen noodles for the rest of your life with this path tho.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Prepare to be eating Ramen noodles for the rest of your life with this path tho.

explain...:thinking:

[Humphrizzle]

i get 30 mpg everywhere.. city and hwy.

[PRO®]

i get 30 mpg everywhere.. city and hwy.

x2. and i by no means drive slow. the highest i got (while coasting every now and then and being a little more conscious of my driving habits was 35.5 mpg...but that was only once, lol)

[Humphrizzle]

i got 36 coming back from washington DC. 34 from new york.

[yourheero]

b20 with b16 or type r tranny = Love

X2

[Master Shake]

If you're boosting you don't want the short gears of a B16 tranny...thats true, for boosted application then a ls tranny with a longer gears to wind out.

[Master Shake]

explain...:thinking:X2