FDA allows first human stem cell test...

[0p7!mu5]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/23/news/companies/FDA_stemcell.reut/index.htm?iref=werecommend

what do you think?

[turbodawg]

About damned time

[SPOOLIN]

should have never been an issue, should have never been interrupted.

[SL65AMG]

agreed

[EJ25RUN]

score 1 for common sense.

[OneSlow5pt0]

awesome......really good,now maybe i can get some stemcells.

[redrumracer]

awesome......really good,now maybe i can get some stemcells.
trying to wing yourself off of those babies huh?

[RedEj8]

trying to wing yourself off of those babies huh?

Wean?

I agree, should've never been an issue. Gotta use all those abortions for something!

[0p7!mu5]

Wean?

I agree, should've never been an issue. Gotta use all those abortions for something!

wow.... sad to be put tht way but i agree. hell one thing good is commin out of whores now..

[SPOOLIN]

wow.... sad to be put tht way but i agree. hell one thing good is commin out of whores now..

I didnt think they used abortions but i guess they could

Most of them were embryos from test tubes and they remove the stem cells which automatically terminates the embryo.

Anyone against this, needs to go jump off a diving board without water, become a quadriplegic, and THEN say they are against it!

[choiiiiiiiii]

look at abortion pictures and then say you're for it.

and also the sheer number of innocent babies murdered in our country up to now.

i really don't appreciate the humor used in association with abortion...this is no joking matter. unbelievable.

[4dmin]

look at abortion pictures and then say you're for it.

and also the sheer number of innocent babies murdered in our country up to now.

i really don't appreciate the humor used in association with abortion...this is no joking matter. unbelievable.

sorry but we already have enough unwanted children in this world. i would love to know the staggering numbers of prolifers who have adopted. gov has no place to tell someone what they can/can't do w/ their body. if we had population control like some other countries we wouldn't have so many idiots running around this country.

[Total_Blender]

look at abortion pictures and then say you're for it.

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Really any pictures of medical operations look grotesque. I'm sure if you showed people pictures of tumors they would probably have the same reaction. I have browsed some of the books we send out to the Vet-Med library down in Tifton, and some of the diseases/problems with cattle and swine will make you seriously reconsider eating meat. But I still order my steaks medium rare. :goodjob:

[RedEj8]

look at abortion pictures and then say you're for it.

and also the sheer number of innocent babies murdered in our country up to now.

i really don't appreciate the humor used in association with abortion...this is no joking matter. unbelievable.

Cry me a fucking river
Admin got it right...

[Revmaynard]

Lol abortion.


I'm glad they're getting down to some work!

[DieselNuts]

I'm all about it. I had a friend that was one of the 2 first people to have stemcell treatment about 8 years ago. He was paralized from the waist down but has been walking and lifting for about 7 years now. And I agree with admin 100%

[RedEj8]

^ Wow thats awesome.

[§treet_§peed]

screw it. not like its a living person. we need the cures that stem cells can provide. only downside, whenever a cure for something is found, the pharm. companies will cover it up any way possible cause in their minds and sorta the truth. there is not profit in cures. there's already a cure for the man made HIV/AIDs and cancer. even tho new research is proving that HIV and AIDs are a lot more different than we are told.

[4dmin]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i104/infinaneek/eat_babies.jpg

[DieselNuts]

^ Wow thats awesome.
yeah, it really is amazing. He went from wheel chair to walking on his own in about a month.

[EJ25RUN]

yeah, it really is amazing. He went from wheel chair to walking on his own in about a month.
That kicks ass.

[choiiiiiiiii]

sorry but we already have enough unwanted children in this world. i would love to know the staggering numbers of prolifers who have adopted. gov has no place to tell someone what they can/can't do w/ their body. if we had population control like some other countries we wouldn't have so many idiots running around this country.

so the "need" to get rid of unwanted children justifies murder?
and please, do look up the numbers, i'm curious as well.

"idiots running around this country" wow really? is that the best you can come up with? look at china, do you honestly think population control is working over there, according to your "idiots running around this country" theory?

[choiiiiiiiii]

Cry me a fucking river
Admin got it right...

hey, you have nothing useful to add here, so.......shut up?

[DieselNuts]

so the "need" to get rid of unwanted children justifies murder?

how can it be considered murder if it cant live on its own?

[choiiiiiiiii]

Really any pictures of medical operations look grotesque. I'm sure if you showed people pictures of tumors they would probably have the same reaction. I have browsed some of the books we send out to the Vet-Med library down in Tifton, and some of the diseases/problems with cattle and swine will make you seriously reconsider eating meat. But I still order my steaks medium rare. :goodjob:

i think abortion methods are pretty more gruesome than livestock disease....:thinking:

mad cow disease didn't stop people from going to outback...:thinking:

[choiiiiiiiii]

how can it be considered murder if it cant live on its own?


you're referring to...?

[DieselNuts]

did a quick google search. this is the quickest, most current statistic I could find:

July 8, 2007

Adoptions are increasingly in the headlines around the world. Some Hollywood celebrities have been in the news recently for adopting children abroad, and there has been a renewed interest in the plight of orphaned children. What is the annual number of child adoptions worldwide?

A. 1 million B. 250,000 C. 125,000 D. 40,000

B. 250,000 is correct.

About 85 percent of these adoptions are domestic, or undertaken within the same country. In relative terms, the number of child adoptions is small, with only 1.5 percent out of the 16 million orphans worldwide being placed each year.

The number of adoptions that take place each year in the United States is 125,000. The United States thus accounts for about one-half of the total number of child adoptions worldwide, with most of them being domestic adoptions.

The Globalist Quiz is produced by The Globalist, a Washington-based research organization that promotes awareness of world affairs. © 2006 The Globalist, theglobalist.com.
© Copyright 2007 Globe Newspaper Company.

[DieselNuts]

you're referring to...?
an embryo

[BobbyFresco]

so the "need" to get rid of unwanted children justifies murder?
and please, do look up the numbers, i'm curious as well.

"idiots running around this country" wow really? is that the best you can come up with? look at china, do you honestly think population control is working over there, according to your "idiots running around this country" theory?


Who are you to determine what a woman should or should not do with her body?

At what point, in your scientific opinion, does life begin?

What are you doing for the millions of unwanted children world wide, that are left behind by parents that do not want them? Have you adopted said children? Or you just all talk because it's easier that way?

[_Christian_]

About damned time
Word for word what came out of my mouth when reading the thread title.:goodjob:

Edit: It's always fun to read illogical posts from religious kooks.

[DieselNuts]

Who are you to determine what a woman should or should not do with her body?

At what point, in your scientific opinion, does life begin?

What are you doing for the millions of unwanted children world wide, that are left behind by parents that do not want them? Have you adopted said children? Or you just all talk because it's easier that way?
we seem to agree on a lot of topics....this being one of them. Nice post :goodjob:

[choiiiiiiiii]

Who are you to determine what a woman should or should not do with her body?

At what point, in your scientific opinion, does life begin?

What are you doing for the millions of unwanted children world wide, that are left behind by parents that do not want them? Have you adopted said children? Or you just all talk because it's easier that way?


1) i'm not one to tell what a woman can or cannot do...and apparently i'm on the unpopular side of this debate

however, abortion is what a woman is doing to her baby, not to herself...although many women do go through severe stages of depression and whole bunches of other psychological whatnots, but hey we'll look at that later if need be.

2) when does life begin? as soon as an embryo is formed.
or better yet, let's just ask the baby when it popped out. "when did life begin for you?"

3) hm..good question. would community service for an orphanage in a foreign country count for something?

[BobbyFresco]

1) i'm not one to tell what a woman can or cannot do...and apparently i'm on the unpopular side of this debate

however, abortion is what a woman is doing to her baby, not to herself...although many women do go through severe stages of depression and whole bunches of other psychological whatnots, but hey we'll look at that later if need be.

2) when does life begin? as soon as an embryo is formed.
or better yet, let's just ask the baby when it popped out. "when did life begin for you?"

3) hm..good question. would community service for an orphanage in a foreign country count for something?


So an embryo can survive independently of the mother?

[choiiiiiiiii]

So an embryo can survive independently of the mother?

:thinking: and this has any relevance to.....

[RedEj8]

I felt there was no further explanation needed after Admin posted..

Since you're so against abortions, think about this..

Say..your mom/sister/whoever gets knocked out and raped by some person. You would rather her have the baby than to get an abortion? You would rather someone live their life with some fuck-ups baby than for them to get rid of it? Who are you to decide how they should live there life?

Some people make mistakes. Young kids in middle and high school do not need a baby AT ALL. How much would it have fucked up your life to be a father in 8th,9th,10th grade? (considering you got that far with your education)

Oh, you probably would have been the kind of person to just give it away and put the burden on someone else. Let someone else take care of your problem when you could have just taken care of it from the get-go while it was just a tiny little embryo or perhaps while it was in the shape of a tadpole.

Also, the whole world is better off with abortions..Some people just don't need to breed..

[BobbyFresco]

:thinking: and this has any relevance to.....

Eh. I see there is no talking sense to you and all this will turn into is an argument in semantics.

[BobbyFresco]

Population control is inevitable, through some form or another. Point blank.

[_Christian_]

:thinking: and this has any relevance to.....
...whether or not the embryo is living. Not only is it inviable, a FETUS doesn't even have brain activity until about 20 weeks after conception. Care to offer your expert medical opinion on how an embryo is anymore living than a piece of living skin tissue such as dermis?

[fredy123]

We are witnessing history..N just because now its legal doesnt mean research hasnt been done in hideing!!!

[dorin48]

I feel like abortion is too complicated to express into multiples. How you feel about this is directly a result of who you are nature or nuture. While destroying an embryo tugs at my heartstrings I won't let it over shadow the true wonder at what has been accomplished. This is also so powerful that I dont think it will be controllable with policy if it is allowed to develop rapidly. It may easily de-humanize the population.

[nreggie454]

I feel that this is OK as long as embryos aren't produced solely so that the stem cells can be harvested from them. However, since the embryos they harvest from are ones that would be trashed anyways, they might as well use them for some good.

[DieselNuts]

did this thread make anyone think about the South Park episode with Christopher Reeves?

[EJ25RUN]

:thinking: and this has any relevance to.....
Go brain wash yourself some more before you come back/

[RedEj8]

did this thread make anyone think about the South Park episode with Christopher Reeves?

lol Yes! That's the first thing I thought when I read the title

[_Christian_]

did this thread make anyone think about the South Park episode with Christopher Reeves?
Makes me think of the family guy when Peter has a stroke and then goes to a stem cell research facility.

[stephen]

I feel like abortion is too complicated to express into multiples. How you feel about this is directly a result of who you are nature or nuture. While destroying an embryo tugs at my heartstrings I won't let it over shadow the true wonder at what has been accomplished. This is also so powerful that I dont think it will be controllable with policy if it is allowed to develop rapidly. It may easily de-humanize the population.


great post! abortion, test tube babies, stem cells, etc...much like everything else in life it has its "yen & yang." i don't think everyone needs to get bent out of shape over the whole embryo abortion/test tube deal. umbilical cords have stem cells too. for a hefty fee, you can have your (or your child's or whatever) umbilical cord blood preserved. whether it can be used to repair spinal chords, we'll see.

[SPOOLIN]

i'm amazed at how much people defend an embryo that is aborted at the single digit weeks stage...or grown for that matter. Its just not a living human, it's just cells replicating in a sack. Its just never phased me.

but like i said before, go break your neck, land on your head, be confined to a wheel chair or bed AND THEN argue about a little group of replicating cells in a sack that contain the key to you becoming normal again. Something that a few years ago was just impossible throughout human history.

[dorin48]

Its not destroying what an embryo is that bothers me it is the potential of what it could be that bothers me. I won't lose sleep over it. I'm not saying it is bad. I'm saying its a double edge no matter anyone's opinion. I was a biology major aimed at stemcell research before I changd degrees to GIS.

Oh, and SPOOLIN I <3 your car. It must be a hell of a ride. Always stare when I go to Mainstream. +1 cause thats all im worth.