GSR or k20

[fredy123]

GSR or k20???

Which engine would give me the more HP, all motor?
How can i get the most HP out of either engine?
My hope is of building a motor and reaching 300 whp.

[Got Milk?]

k20 and if got lil extra money go k24

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/K20S-Ek-Hatch-K20-R-Vs-2_493747.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Two-K-Swapped-Cars-Head_317353.htm

There is also a video on here where they had a dyno day of k20 swaped cars. And all of them were pushing 280+ N/A.

[fredy123]

Those were some sick videos dude!!:goodjob:

[Arm&hammer]

k20
intake, header, exhaust, pistons, rod head bolts, itbs.
you will get more out of a k20 if you plan on going n/a

[fredy123]

k20
intake, header, exhaust, pistons, rod head bolts, itbs.
you will get more out of a k20 if you plan on going n/a

Yeah thats what i was thinking of the usual set up of Headers, Full Catback 2.5 tip, stage 1 clutch and cam gears.
What kind of pistons should i get?
And a little more info on "rod head bolts, itbs," im kinda of a noob:cheers:

[Got Milk?]

k20
intake, header, exhaust, pistons, rod head bolts, itbs.
you will get more out of a k20 if you plan on going n/a

all sounds good expect the ITBs, they are pain in the ass if you put them on a DD.

[Got Milk?]

Yeah thats what i was thinking of the usual set up of Headers, Full Catback 2.5 tip, stage 1 clutch and cam gears.
What kind of pistons should i get?
And a little more info on "rod head bolts, itbs," im kinda of a noob:cheers:

Do some re-search about other people k20 swaped cars. Look at their write ups, and follow up.

[ejohnson88]

Lol this thread fails. But K > B... funny how you said GSR and not type R but anyways... Judging by the lack of information you reveal in your posts. You probably don't have near enough money to even get yourself into the K scene... Sorry but it's the truth.

[RJtheBlacktC]

k20a.org

[yunglaosta]

k20a if u got the money, but if not do a k20/k24

[tofu-eg]

Lol this thread fails. But K > B... funny how you said GSR and not type R but anyways... Judging by the lack of information you reveal in your posts. You probably don't have near enough money to even get yourself into the K scene... Sorry but it's the truth.

x2

[K20Z1]

man, K > B

[fredy123]

Its a sick vid of an RSX with ITBs!!!



2NR Werks RSX with ITBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_k8_bjyFt8

[Arm&hammer]

all sounds good expect the ITBs, they are pain in the ass if you put them on a DD.

hells yeah.
i heard that you have to retune your car every two weeks if you have a dd with itbs but im not sure.

[Arm&hammer]

Yeah thats what i was thinking of the usual set up of Headers, Full Catback 2.5 tip, stage 1 clutch and cam gears.
What kind of pistons should i get?
And a little more info on "rod head bolts, itbs," im kinda of a noob:cheers:

i mean rods and pistons, arp head bolts.
and an individual throttle body.
i didn't read over my post since i was in a bit of a hurry.

[Catnip]

You do know that 300whp from a NA 4 cylinder is hard to get, right?

Also, 300whp is a LOT for short gears and a light car. My car probably puts out about 150whp and runs 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.

[xdavidscenex]

300hp all motor K or B series is big money.

[ejohnson88]

150 whp and a 13.5?!? I'd have to see that... unless your car literally weighs like 1600 pounds.

[Bruce Leroy]

hells yeah.
i heard that you have to retune your car every two weeks if you have a dd with itbs but im not sure.


wtf....

wrong!


and to the op.... give up on the 300whp na build, because you obviously don't know what you are getting yourself into.

[Catnip]

150 whp and a 13.5?!? I'd have to see that... unless your car literally weighs like 1600 pounds.

I highly doubt it's over 160whp, highly doubt it. It's just a JDM GSR with big tube tri-y, sk2 pro intake mani, and a 68mm TB... untuned.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/84_318i/135timeslip.jpg

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

You do know that 300whp from a NA 4 cylinder is hard to get, right?

Also, 300whp is a LOT for short gears and a light car. My car probably puts out about 150whp and runs 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.13.5?

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Catnip]

13.5?

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Sorry, didn't know 13.5 from a bolt on GSR was funny... :thinking:

[DarKStaR]

If i had a dime for everytime ive seen that time slip, i would be rich! lol just busting your chops evan. Evan was on slicks and gutted hatch weighing around 2000lbs.

[Arm&hammer]

wtf....

wrong!


and to the op.... give up on the 300whp na build, because you obviously don't know what you are getting yourself into.


well thanks for clearing that up.

[Catnip]

If i had a dime for everytime ive seen that time slip, i would be rich! lol just busting your chops evan. Evan was on slicks and gutted hatch weighing around 2000lbs.

Shiiiiiit, a nickel for that matter :lmao:

Yea, it's a decently light car, 2050 w/o me and a little over 2200 pounds with me.

[DarKStaR]

fatass!

[fredy123]

Thanks for the advice guys.. Yes its a lot of work no1 said it was going to be easy. I plan on getting close to my numbers all motor...Ill make it easier on myself tho..250 whp is my new goal with the above posted set up

[fredy123]

Just so many possibilities...


Supercharged RSX 12.8@109 MPH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPg7AfcK7Uo

[ejohnson88]

hmmmm if you are running 13.5 with 150-160ish hp... and 130ish torque in a car that weighs 2200ish... I wonder what my car weighing 2500 with 210 whp and 154wtrq is going to run with slicks this weekend... should be good... I hope to cut 1.9 60's too.

[Catnip]

hmmmm if you are running 13.5 with 150-160ish hp... and 130ish torque in a car that weighs 2200ish... I wonder what my car weighing 2500 with 210 whp and 154wtrq is going to run with slicks this weekend... should be good... I hope to cut 1.9 60's too.

Well 2200 is with me in it, so you should DEFINITELY be mid-high 12s with some fancy driving :cheers:


IMO anyways. lol

[ejohnson88]

well that Would be amazing... Good thing my first time out I am only shooting for 13.5's with slicks being as it will only be the second time I have tracked the car in its current setup, since I didn't want to go back out till I had traction haha! Shit if I break 12's tomorrow I might piss myself... but no getting ahead of myself.... 13.5's And I will be happy...

[ejohnson88]

people have broken 12's with close to my power and my weight with close to same setup... but being that good takes practice and seat time... Maybe by the middle of the season and a couple of track days under my belt I could do it...

[DarKStaR]

I dont see why you shouldny crack a 12...Look at the power/time in my sig i did that with street tires in a 2500lb integra...

[Catnip]

I dont see why you shouldny crack a 12...Look at the power/time in my sig i did that with street tires in a 2500lb integra...

Exactly :goodjob:

[ejohnson88]

well after running slicks and having a passenger in what ending up being my best run lol I ran a 12.5 at 101.5 with a 1.99 60' while weighing in at 2700 pounds... That's full weight with 2 people... haha my other run cut a 1.90 60' but I couldn't get second to save my life and so that mis shift caused me to get a 13.8 at 102.3.... Man Had I not misshifted second I would have been 13.2-13.3 bound... on that run...

[ejohnson88]

next step... weight reduction lol...

[Got Milk?]

Just so many possibilities...


Supercharged RSX 12.8@109 MPH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPg7AfcK7Uo

and put that same exact setup in a eg, and tell me the time than.

[DarKStaR]

well after running slicks and having a passenger in what ending up being my best run lol I ran a 12.5 at 101.5 with a 1.99 60' while weighing in at 2700 pounds... That's full weight with 2 people... haha my other run cut a 1.90 60' but I couldn't get second to save my life and so that mis shift caused me to get a 13.8 at 102.3.... Man Had I not misshifted second I would have been 13.2-13.3 bound... on that run...

Was this at sdr? what kind of car?

[Starrfire]

gonna take a lot of seat time and some good 60' times with some count traction. All 3 are very important to taking off a tenth here and there. My problem is traction, therefore a bad 60' time because of compensating for it to not roast the tires and run a decent time on street tires. It's a delicate dance.

[ejohnson88]

It was in a Black 95 Civic Coupe at SDR yes.

[seriousb13]

well after running slicks and having a passenger in what ending up being my best run lol I ran a 12.5 at 101.5 with a 1.99 60' while weighing in at 2700 pounds... That's full weight with 2 people... haha my other run cut a 1.90 60' but I couldn't get second to save my life and so that mis shift caused me to get a 13.8 at 102.3.... Man Had I not misshifted second I would have been 13.2-13.3 bound... on that run...

12.5@101? or 13.5 (13.5@101)?

[DarKStaR]

I think he meant 13.5 cause i wouldve remember a 12.5 lol. But i thought that was you ejohnson just wanted to make sure. Car pulls strong.

[ejohnson88]

Yeah it definitely does lol my 13.5 was with a passenger haha. And yeah it was a 13 not a 12 lol... stupid numbers being next to each other and shit.

[brianssupra]

k20

[kar906]

k20 duuuh

[im_hung]

k20 with a k24 bottom end... cant go wrong there.

[khoip88]

You do know that 300whp from a NA 4 cylinder is hard to get, right?

Also, 300whp is a LOT for short gears and a light car. My car probably puts out about 150whp and runs 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.
i like ur math, 150whp doing 13.5?????? u out of ur damn mind!!!!!! the cheapest way out would be h2b!

[Master Shake]

Yeah thats what i was thinking of the usual set up of Headers, Full Catback 2.5 tip, stage 1 clutch and cam gears.
What kind of pistons should i get?
And a little more info on "rod head bolts, itbs," im kinda of a noob:cheers:rod head bolts are what keep you rod and piston head connected. i think arp makes some.
itbs is individual throttle bodies. try to get some off a busa or something, might have to get the intake flange, but it would be a good setup.

[Master Shake]

i like ur math, 150whp doing 13.5?????? u out of ur damn mind!!!!!! the cheapest way out would be h2b!he's posted time slips of it. 13.5-13.7 trappin about 97-98mph.

[yunglaosta]

i like ur math, 150whp doing 13.5?????? u out of ur damn mind!!!!!! the cheapest way out would be h2b!


:lmfao: 150 whp doing 13.5? :gay: ...h22a would run close to that time on the 1/4th

[SP33D FREAK]

k20 ftw!

[.:Stirfry:.]

stock k20 on kpro.. with a bad ass rear suspension.. and you can make you way into the 11s:.. seen it done

[WalkS]

Get you a GSR, a good header, different intake manifold and 75 shot of NOS. You will be running low 12's all day long... Seen it done, and a girl races this car! :goodjob:

[Red_EJ1]

k20a (type-r) makes 230hp stock, k20a2 makes 195,and the k20a3 is,well the same as a gsr. and if you wanted to make enything close to 300hp with a b series you would wanna start with a b18c (type-r) it makes 195hp stock and thats if you have the money. the cheapest way to go is probly k20a2 . itbs are way fucking expensive,and you cant really dailly drive that.my buddy has an 02 rsx and hes running k20a2 head/k24 bottom hondata k-pro. made 247hp on the dyno on A tune. stock internals so if he had built the head/bottom. could of got atleast 280hp. you can port and polish and bore a gsr all you want and then yull be were a k20a2 is stock. plus the k series i-vtec is fuckin sick. k all the way.and if you do push 300hp all motor its probly not going to be reliable for shit. but hey if you have tons of money why not. but if you do this your gonna need to sleeve the block with a bigger bore. one hell of a port and pollished head, new valves,springs,retianers,rockers,cams,high comp piston and if your not gonna be able to run pump gas. and your going to have to have a serious fuel set up injecters,fuel rail,fuelpump est...so if you have 20.000 dollars layin around and the chance that that motor gonna fuck up. but if you can get all this shit find some one who really knows what the fuck there doing. so i hope this solves the gsr or k20 problem,and ends this forum

[Red_EJ1]

^oh ya and all that k shit gos the same for the k20z series

[SP33D FREAK]

Get you a GSR, a good header, different intake manifold and 75 shot of NOS. You will be running low 12's all day long... Seen it done, and a girl races this car! :goodjob:


put a 75 shot on a stock k20a2 and your pushing low 11's high 10's
;)

[Red_EJ1]

ya well what set up are you running, and i was refuring to a high ass comp ratio like 14-1

[SP33D FREAK]

ya well what set up are you running, and i was refuring to a high ass comp ratio like 14-1


well shit yeah 14:1 compression is not for Daily... but you really don't need that high of compression to hit 300hp

[Red_EJ1]

no you dont but its gsr vs k20 you tell me how to get a gsr to hit 300hp n/a

[tk4g94]

B18's are gay k20 all the way

[scttydb411]

here's a link...i'm too lazy to retype it again if you're thinking k-series. 300whp n/a isn't easy.
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226516