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TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:01 PM
After dominating the 2008 Time Attack season we should have probably left good enough alone. But as I am sure some have followed Redline has relaxed the unlimited class rules. Allowing for more radical modifications and changes to be made. Excited about the new rules in effect, we have decided to start building a new Shell and then swap over most of the existing drivetrain and suspension. This would make a for a fast and very cost effective build as I would only be out the costs for material and a Shell (big thanks to Slowwrx).
Like all of TopSpeed's builds we are open and willing to share everything with the public. No smoke and mirrors here or topsecrete info. Just kick ass builds and Wins. So if there are any questions feel free to ask and we will do our best to answer them.
Our initial plans were to take all the information we had learned from the past two seasons and build what we feel is the ultimate Time Attack car. With our end goal to have a lighter, stiffer and better balanced car. After much brainstorming we came up the following changes that need to be made.
Lower roof (lower CoG and less frontal area)
Lower the ride height (lower CoG)
Move radiator to rear (weight distribution)
Front mount turbo (weight distribution)
New Cage Design (Stiffer less weight)
Seam Welding (chassis stiffness)
Adj Suspension Pickup points (better geometry)
That is the small list of major changes we will be making. Ofcourse there will also be a ton of smaller changes, but those will not make as huge a difference.
The current Shell weights 430lbs. I have removed excess metal from key areas that will be strenthened by the cage. Also from the pictures you can see how much I have removed from the roof (2.5"). Next up is to cut and tub the wheel wells to allow tire clearance with the car sitting so low. Then its media blasted, seam welded, and caged.
Check back here as I plan on updating this thread with new build pictures. This build should go quick as we are scheduled for track testing in 8wks.
Enjoy,
Douglas Wilks
TopSpeed Inc.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/IMG_0660.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/IMG_0658-1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0357.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0361.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0362.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0364.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0365.jpg
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:02 PM
1/05/09 Update: Here are a couple pictures of the front passenger wheel well. I have extended it up and out by about 3". This will give me the clearance needed to run the car lower.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0374.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0375.jpg
This last picture is with the wheel sitting inside the fender. This should be about the final ride height once everything is done.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0378.jpg
Doug Wilks
TopSpeed
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:02 PM
For those not familiar with our original Time Attack build here is a link to it. http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49054
That covers from when I first got the car untill now. It would prolly take you a few hours to read through it all though.
Crazy Asian
01-06-2009, 01:03 PM
can you turn my 2009 accord into a racecar?
Brick
01-06-2009, 01:08 PM
Looks like fun, good luck with it.
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:11 PM
Thanks, I will try and keep this thread updated with build progress. We have 8 week to get it completed.. so were under a bit of time crunch.
what does your old Subaru think about this? it oesnt look too excited in the back...lol
are u gonna get rid of it? put another motor in it?
UpSideDownDesi
01-06-2009, 01:12 PM
looking forward to see the finished car, and GL with build.
Atlblkz06
01-06-2009, 01:15 PM
GL with the build, I'm looking forward to this.
Make sure you can fit in there before you weld the cut roof in :lmfao:
Black4DrEK
01-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Damn cant wait to see the finish product!! the old car is SICK!!:goodjob:
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:19 PM
We will keep the other car, but its going to be mostly a shell with a cage in it when were done. It will be good to have as a back up in the event something were to happen and ruin the new car.
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:20 PM
can you turn my 2009 accord into a racecar?
We can turn anything into a race car... it just takes $$
vividracing
01-06-2009, 01:25 PM
Awesome build guys. Loved the red one, and this one looks much more menacing! reminds me of the Cusco JGTC car with the super low stance.
Jon
dappsta
01-06-2009, 01:33 PM
The arch "tubbing" looks a bit small, how come you guys didn't extend it out to the end of the shock tunnel? Also, will there be any issues with tire clearance if the car is in full lock??
DunDunSkeert
01-06-2009, 01:33 PM
Awesome. Are Y'all going with carbon fiber body panels? Somebody recently came out with a widebody carnonfiber kit. i can find the link if you want it.
I can't wait to see this thing completed!
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:35 PM
thanks
nsany(atl)
01-06-2009, 01:37 PM
you need to calculate the addidional water and hose weight for moving the radiator to the back. In most situations it is not worth is b/c you have to run so much more water and hose, also may need to run an additional pump.
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:38 PM
The arch "tubbing" looks a bit small, how come you guys didn't extend it out to the end of the shock tunnel? Also, will there be any issues with tire clearance if the car is in full lock??
They don't need to be any larger towards the center than what we have them at now. There is plenty of room on the inside. Our main issue was with he car sitting low it would rub the top side of the tire. The new tubs have raised the wheel well up about 4" giving us plenty or suspension travel and wheel clearance now.
TopSpeedInc
01-06-2009, 01:39 PM
you need to calculate the addidional water and hose weight for moving the radiator to the back. In most situations it is not worth is b/c you have to run so much more water and hose, also may need to run an additional pump.
Any additional weight in the rear of the car will actually be good. Our current car has barely any weight on in the rear and a ton on the front. Coolant flow has also been addressed. We have a custom high flow water pump we run.
Don't worry this isn't our first rodeo
Doug
canadianrcis
01-06-2009, 01:40 PM
balling build
SandM
01-06-2009, 02:29 PM
hooray for build #2. loved the first one and can't wait to see the progress of this one... and look, trey's 240 still in the shop....
amandDA
01-06-2009, 02:48 PM
cant wait to see the final product! and x2 on what are you all going to do with the old one? just keep building it more
NAIZBST
01-06-2009, 03:09 PM
very nice and can't wait to see the finished product
ep9716
01-06-2009, 03:54 PM
Can't Wait For Updates.
teh_mugen18
01-06-2009, 04:05 PM
Wow what a starting point...!!
Mr. Antonov
01-06-2009, 04:57 PM
balling build
That's what I'm thinking..
This is going to be nuts, already love the roof..
BTW somebody sticky this..
teh_mugen18
01-06-2009, 05:17 PM
BTW somebody sticky this..
x2:goodjob:
WalkS
01-06-2009, 06:08 PM
Aw man, this is going to be interesting. I can't wait to see more! :goodjob:
GGPIS3
01-06-2009, 06:32 PM
more beer less work! haha nice to see progress...
c0l7hy
01-06-2009, 07:16 PM
looks like yall are headed in the right direction to tear it up again next season. sick build.
csmiths
01-06-2009, 07:34 PM
cant wait to see the final product. i saw the red one run, and that car is pretty much on point
DVSRX-7
01-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Another squirrel?? Goodluck on everything
xdavidscenex
01-06-2009, 08:09 PM
sick!!!!
dappsta
01-06-2009, 08:10 PM
They don't need to be any larger towards the center than what we have them at now. There is plenty of room on the inside. Our main issue was with he car sitting low it would rub the top side of the tire. The new tubs have raised the wheel well up about 4" giving us plenty or suspension travel and wheel clearance now.
Understandable. I guess i was more looking at it from an aesthetic POV, however, it still looks great! and the welds are excellent, i can't wait to see the finished product :goodjob:
speedminded
01-06-2009, 08:12 PM
Niceee! Chopped and tubbed...got baby moons to mount to the rotas? Cue ball shifter, fuzzy dice, and spark plugs in the exhaust? :tongue:
Bus Driver J
01-06-2009, 08:19 PM
... and look, tray's 240 still in the shop....
LMAO!!!!! It gets worked on at least once a week.....
dorin48
01-06-2009, 09:41 PM
I can't wait to see this come together. I work next door to you guys hope you dont mind if I come in an ogle/drool? lol
TopSpeedInc
01-07-2009, 10:30 AM
Feel free to stop by...
I should have some more pics of the progress up soon.
The BUCKY
01-07-2009, 10:40 AM
let me know if you need any paint work!!! cant wait to see this one in action
TopSpeedInc
01-07-2009, 01:13 PM
I actually will need the car to be painted.. we are currently looking for someone willing to do it for a good deal.
E=MC˛
01-07-2009, 01:33 PM
im going to be watching this build.
eg mike
01-07-2009, 02:02 PM
wow! in for more pics!!
OTG Signs
01-07-2009, 03:52 PM
I actually will need the car to be painted.. we are currently looking for someone willing to do it for a good deal.
Edit: Do you need jambs and engine bay done on it too?
This will vary the price a little bit, but I have a guy that can do it affordably. They did my Mustang, and the paint was some of the best i've seen. Plus they're about ten minutes from you guys.
Andrew @ OTG
AnthonyF
01-08-2009, 11:38 AM
Looks mighty sexy! A job that big...i would not know where anything goes anymore. lol
-Ant.
imbatman
01-08-2009, 12:09 PM
damnnn...ill be watching this thread
TopSpeedInc
01-09-2009, 01:38 PM
1/9/09 - update
Finished up on the front drivers tub along with doing some cleaning of the engine bay. Just got tired of looking at all the mess so we wheeled the car outside on the dolly's for a quick washing. Along with the wheel tube I have removed some more metal that is in areas not needed in various areas.
Here some pics,
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0388.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0389.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/CIMG0390.jpg
The BUCKY
01-09-2009, 03:30 PM
lookin good
Z33_kid
01-09-2009, 08:04 PM
kewl
matthewAPM
01-09-2009, 08:06 PM
when is it going to be ready? dont have long...
TopSpeedInc
01-10-2009, 12:42 PM
Shooting to make the March 6-7 exhibition race in Florida.
matthewAPM
01-10-2009, 12:57 PM
sounds cool. Mine is still in the works as well. ha
TopSpeedInc
01-10-2009, 02:28 PM
you coming to the florida time attack?
Axix23
01-10-2009, 11:34 PM
what kinda car is that?
DunDunSkeert
01-11-2009, 01:13 AM
what kinda car is that?
It's a 1995 subaru impreza L .
TopSpeedInc
01-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Heres two I came up with last night messing around on forza.
First in white
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/loki-wht.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/loki-wht1.jpg
Then the same but a candy red
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/loki-red.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/loki-red1.jpg
TopSpeedInc
01-11-2009, 10:00 AM
Look what else I get to play with in forza.. big thanks to AG-Tuning for getting it done.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/lucyfrza1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/lucyfrza.jpg
xdavidscenex
01-11-2009, 10:05 AM
Look what else I get to play with in forza.. big thanks to AG-Tuning for getting it done.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/lucyfrza1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/badazzcr/lucyfrza.jpg
badass!! :goodjob:
DunDunSkeert
01-15-2009, 11:14 PM
any updates?
Glides
01-16-2009, 11:05 AM
When this car leaves the shop for the first time, Valkyries will descend from teh heavens and ring it with Angels tooting horns. If Zeus himself doesn't put in a personal appearance to fling thunderbolts when this thing fires up....I will be incredibly suprised.
matthewAPM
02-02-2009, 01:24 PM
anything??
Brian*
02-02-2009, 01:27 PM
Y'all do clean ass work, I hated seeing Meng's supra go down... I wanted to see that thing hit 1000hp!
Good Choice in wheels btw, are those the ones out of the show room?
DUBSf22c
02-05-2009, 05:55 AM
update?
Atlblkz06
02-05-2009, 08:55 AM
When this car leaves the shop for the first time, Valkyries will descend from teh heavens and ring it with Angels tooting horns. If Zeus himself doesn't put in a personal appearance to fling thunderbolts when this thing fires up....I will be incredibly suprised.
:lmfao:
You forgot the part where Thor's hammer will give the car it's exhaust note.
How did you take a forza screenshot (Xbox?) and put it online? :thinking:
Bus Driver J
02-05-2009, 12:28 PM
Y'all do clean ass work, I hated seeing Meng's supra go down... I wanted to see that thing hit 1000hp!
Good Choice in wheels btw, are those the ones out of the show room?
Those are the same wheels we ran last year, the Enkei Racing RP-F1's. They are just painted different in the Forza shots.
juanito
02-10-2009, 04:39 PM
how long do u think this car is gonna take?
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