Canon or Nikon?

[HatchMan]

I am problably gonna go ahead and buy me a Nikon D80 but I just wanted to see what was you guys preference when it comes to DSLR.....

[thepolecat]

I started with Canons years ago and I have already got a full outfit for them as long as they stick with an EOS system. If I were to do it again, I would still go with Canon.

You are comparing apples and apples- you wont go wrong with either one.

[A.P. Photography]

It is up to you. Go to Best Buy or Wolf and fondle both and see which one feels better in your hands and which one has the better control layout for you. They are both about the same.

[boostedb16]

It is up to you. Go to Best Buy or Wolf and fondle both and see which one feels better in your hands and which one has the better control layout for you. They are both about the same.i have always had canon as far as point and shoots go and i was going to get a canon dslr. my boss shoots with a nikon d50,d80,d200 and a d3 and when i picked up his d80, it fit my hand alot better as far as the shutter release go's. i say go and try some out and then decide. if you lived close to me. i would let you try out my d80.

[changaroo]

cant go wrong with either. may the canon gods forgive me for saying this, but if i wasnt knee deep with canon lenses, i would switch to nikon for their d700, but only that camera :)

[HatchMan]

I checked the Canon Xsi but it looked really cheap for some reason. I also heard that the liveview feature on it sucks... (I know that the D80 doesn't
actually have that feature)


i have always had canon as far as point and shoots go and i was going to get a canon dslr. my boss shoots with a nikon d50,d80,d200 and a d3 and when i picked up his d80, it fit my hand alot better as far as the shutter release go's. i say go and try some out and then decide. if you lived close to me. i would let you try out my d80.



That's very nice of you man!! I live in Marietta. What about you?

[DinanM3atl]

Kind of OT but why does the XSi Liveview suck?

[xbn83]

Don't get D80, put little bit more money toward D90 and you won't regret. D90 shares a lot of features of D300. It has same sensor as D300, but packs with the lastest technologies with fraction of cost of the D300. Check out the reviews on google. Here is one of them: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d90.htm
I say this not because D90 has D movie mode. I don't care about Live View mode or D movie. I used the own D80, then I switch to D90 and could not be happier. It is far better than D80. Try out both before you decide which one is more suitable for you.

[CHADbee]

cant go wrong with either. may the canon gods forgive me for saying this, but if i wasnt knee deep with canon lenses, i would switch to nikon for their d700, but only that camera :)
oooo im tellin'


Don't get D80, put little bit more money toward D90 and you won't regret. D90 shares a lot of features of D300. It has same sensor as D300, but packs with the lastest technologies with fraction of cost of the D300. Check out the reviews on google. Here is one of them: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d90.htm
I say this not because D90 has D movie mode. I don't care about Live View mode or D movie. I used the own D80, then I switch to D90 and could not be happier. It is far better than D80. Try out both before you decide which one is more suitable for you.
:stupid:

[imbosile]

I've got a Nikon D50 which I have enjoyed for the last 3 years, and I'll think I will keep using it until it falls apart... or until I just have every piece of amazing glass I could dream of.

NIKON!

[b17a1db2]

Kind of OT but why does the XSi Liveview suck?

I've got a Canon Rebel XSi. Liveview only works, in Manual, aperature priority, shutter priority, automatic depth of field, and Program AE modes. doesn't work in any of the automatic modes. i guess they are saying shooting in automatic doesn't matter. hahaa. Manual is much better.

[HatchMan]

Don't get D80, put little bit more money toward D90 and you won't regret. D90 shares a lot of features of D300. It has same sensor as D300, but packs with the lastest technologies with fraction of cost of the D300. Check out the reviews on google. Here is one of them: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d90.htm
I say this not because D90 has D movie mode. I don't care about Live View mode or D movie. I used the own D80, then I switch to D90 and could not be happier. It is far better than D80. Try out both before you decide which one is more suitable for you.

Yeah but the D90 is kinda out of my price range... It's about $900 just for the body while I found the D80 online for $520 with a 18/55 lens....

[A.P. Photography]

cant go wrong with either. may the canon gods forgive me for saying this, but if i wasnt knee deep with canon lenses, i would switch to nikon for their d700, but only that camera :)

I hate to say it but I agree.

[boostedb16]

I checked the Canon Xsi but it looked really cheap for some reason. I also heard that the liveview feature on it sucks... (I know that the D80 doesn't
actually have that feature)





That's very nice of you man!! I live in Marietta. What about you?i live in dalton. and for the comments about not buying the d80 over the d90. i never said that, i was just saying what i had. i thought about the d90 and when i opened my wallet i changed my mind lol.

[atlantamx3]

I voted Other.

Check out the Sony line-up if you get a chance.

[jimmycricket]

For the price that the D80's are going for since they replaced them with the D90's, the D80 is a STEAL for a DSLR over anything else at this moment in time for what you are getting for your money. But yea, I would have to say the D90 shrouds that, and the D300 shrouds that, and the D3 shrouds that lol.
I just have a D60 but I love the feel of it and I can't appreciate enough how small and light it is. I could appreciate a larger lens selection with DX compatibility but more are coming out and I wouldn't need anything more than the DX lenses they already offer.

[eViLMunkey]

I've got a Canon Rebel XSi. Liveview only works, in Manual, aperature priority, shutter priority, automatic depth of field, and Program AE modes. doesn't work in any of the automatic modes. i guess they are saying shooting in automatic doesn't matter. hahaa. Manual is much better.


x2, I personally like my XSi alot, but with either company you're making a good choice. It's all up to your personal preference when it comes down to it. :goodjob:

[DinanM3atl]

Well ummmmm

I guess if you really like Live View you may not be shooting in the good modes...

[speedminded]

I've got a Canon Rebel XSi. Liveview only works, in Manual, aperature priority, shutter priority, automatic depth of field, and Program AE modes. doesn't work in any of the automatic modes. i guess they are saying shooting in automatic doesn't matter. hahaa. Manual is much better.What's the point of owning a DSLR if you use it in automatic mode? The photos will be no better than a basic point & shoot.

I loved live preview on my Sony point & shoots but I always shot in manual even on them. I can count on one hand how many times I used an automatic mode on my XTI the first year I had it, once I got the flash it was a different story...the only time I use an automatic mode is occasionally in portrait mode only when using a flash.

[DinanM3atl]

I vote Canon.

10 to 9!

[james]

oh god their quoting ken rockwell......

wtf is going on here.?!

[DinanM3atl]

ken rockwell is a perfectly legit single source for information...

As with anything you have to take a little info from here, a little from there, little from there and combine into your own opinion. There is some good info on his site along with some bad info(my personal opinion).

[changaroo]

ken rockwell is as legit as enron :)

[A.P. Photography]

LOL, Ken who? I thought you were talking about Rockwell, the singer who did "Somebody's watching me" lol

[uproot]

you're gonna have to just go check out the different brands and see which one you like better for yourself, just as if you were to test drive a car

[87 Turbo II]

I shoot Canon myself, but you'll end up with the same results on ANY camera(given the tech specs match up in technical data such as noise, sharpness, etc.) and they'll be as good as you are. Simple as that. When you get better, so will the pictures, but the tools you use to get it are nearly irrelevant. It's like asking what type of pencil to buy when you want to get into drawing. At first, not even the most expensive best pencil will matter for shit if you can't draw, then as you get a feel for the craft, you'll work your way up to the level of that pencil.

[jimmycricket]

I shoot Canon myself, but you'll end up with the same results on ANY camera(given the tech specs match up in technical data such as noise, sharpness, etc.) and they'll be as good as you are. Simple as that. When you get better, so will the pictures, but the tools you use to get it are nearly irrelevant. It's like asking what type of pencil to buy when you want to get into drawing. At first, not even the most expensive best pencil will matter for shit if you can't draw, then as you get a feel for the craft, you'll work your way up to the level of that pencil.

I disagree. I think pencil type does matter.

Tri-conderoga "black" > all pencils.

[87 Turbo II]

I disagree. I think pencil type does matter.

Tri-conderoga "black" > all pencils.
youmissed the point about it not helping at all if you sucked at drawing. Also: With cameras, it's more of a class system so the pencil was bad example. It's like, two cameras in the same market niche will beabout equal like:

Entry level:
Canon Rebel XSi = Nikon D60
Advanced Amature:
Canon 50D = NikonD90
Pro-sumer
Canon 5D = Nikon D700

etc.

[CHADbee]

man i just realized canon shooters have taken over IA. im now a minority :lmfao:

[87 Turbo II]

it's ok. I'll still be your friend.

[BlueHatch]

so how where does the sony fit in?

[speedminded]

so how where does the sony fit in?Lenses are far too expensive.

[EJ_Allmota]

man i just realized canon shooters have taken over IA. im now a minority :lmfao:
werd!!!

[Princess12]

I'm not a pro by any means, but I love my Nikon. I have a D40, and I really like the overall setup.

[uproot]

man i just realized canon shooters have taken over IA. im now a minority :lmfao:

:doh:

[james]

Tri-conderoga "black" > all pencils.


psh. :rolleyes:

Faber-Castell Goldfaber ftw. :2up:























jk. i googled.

[atlantamx3]

Lenses are far too expensive.

Umm... You can use Every Minolta Autofocus Lens made since the mid-80s on any of the Sony DSLRs out today.

Lots of Tamron and Sigma lenses fit as well.


Minolta made some VERY quality glass.

Not only that, but since the Sony bodies all have Vibration Reduction/Super Steady Shot... Every lens you put on a Sony body gets the benefit rather than having to buy special lenses.

[atlantamx3]

Asking how the Sony's fit in...


Entry level:
Canon Rebel XSi = Nikon D60 = Sony a100/A200/a350
Advanced Amature:
Canon 50D = NikonD90 = Sony a700
Pro-sumer
Canon 5D = Nikon D700 = Sony a900

etc.


I have an a100 and an a700.

[Tarzanman]

Umm.. how in the world does a 12 MPixel Canon Xsi = a 10 Mpixel Nikon D60? More like Canon Xti = Nikon D60.

The Xsi matches up against the D80

[T-Mo Goodie]

I love my Canon

[87 Turbo II]

Umm.. how in the world does a 12 MPixel Canon Xsi = a 10 Mpixel Nikon D60? More like Canon Xti = Nikon D60.

The Xsi matches up against the D80
In megapixels yes, but in class systems no, they are both brand's entry level cameras, and they share similar cheap technology pentamirror viewfinders(instead of pentaprism) cheaply built plastic bodies, etc. etc.)

[Tarzanman]

Its a bit disingenuous to compare class when the feature set is as different as it is (as cameras go) due to the difference in age/generation.

What you are suggesting is similar to saying that a 2002 Accord is the same as a 2007 Altima because they are in the same class. (or vice-versa... a 2002 Altima compared to a 2007 Accord).

Look down the feature set and performance of the cameras and then tell me again that they are 'the same'

[87 Turbo II]

Its a bit disingenuous to compare class when the feature set is as different as it is (as cameras go) due to the difference in age/generation.

What you are suggesting is similar to saying that a 2002 Accord is the same as a 2007 Altima because they are in the same class. (or vice-versa... a 2002 Altima compared to a 2007 Accord).

Look down the feature set and performance of the cameras and then tell me again that they are 'the same'
They are both the CURRENT entry level cameras, it still applies, anyway, I'e found Canon and Nikon often have a stepladder of competition, rather than an equality, like

D60<XSi<50D<D90<D300<5D Mk II loosely

[Sentra]

Wow. 40 to 40. That funny. Usually one of them is sky rocketing over the other in other forums. NEVER seen a tie.

[YokotaS13]

canon 1d > d3

[xbn83]

d3x>1dmk3

[87 Turbo II]

canon 1d > d3


d3x>1dmk3

opinion < facts

guys, stop worrying about which is better.

[changaroo]

opinion < facts

guys, stop worrying about which is better.

x2

its more actually

user > *

[YokotaS13]

d3x>1dmk3
d3x > 5dmk2 <1dmk3

[Tarzanman]

R2D2 > Johnny 5