How do you achieve this type of fitment?

[Dirty Octopus™]

Real Talk...

I guess mainly whats goin on in the rear?

check me... :goodjob:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/VIP/LS400s/amgan.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/VIP/VIPchris.jpg

and dont tell me BAGS.

i may be stupid but im not that stupid.
by the looks of it there's OBVIOUSLY low offset wheels on these vehicles but low offsets and a drop isnt the only thing that makes it do what it do.

ive had low offsets ( et0 ) and a drop on my Honda and that was attained due to the use of camber kits and rolled fenders. but it was never REALLY flush as these examples.

Tony (carbongs) told me that i cant have negative camber plus flush fitment. i wanna prove him wrong but i need to know how to do so :D

the way im thinking is low offsets will give it a flush look and stretched tires would insure that its under there. but... what do you do to negate the camber more degrees than normally achieved from lowering the car?

[Dirty Octopus™]

oh yeah i'll be posting more pics of examples as i find them. :goodjob:

[Thighs]

get camber plates. are you planning on running bags or do you wanna be static like this?

[Dirty Octopus™]

Bags are far in the future. :goodjob:

can you explain what camber plates are for me? im still a big car noob :o

[Dirty Octopus™]

Oh to give you guys an idea of what id like to achieve here are some quick pics :D

Say this is "Flush Fitment"

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/VIP/FlushFitment.jpg

This would be "Negative Camber" (like a Honda)

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/VIP/NegativeCamber.jpg

This would be "What I Want"

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/VIP/WHATIWANT.jpg

[Glides]

DO. My car does that and all I did baby was drop it down on the Coilovers. You need to shoot my M30 anyway brother. It's right up your alley. I'll snap a couple photos but I need the DO magic for Hella Flush.

:)

[Dirty Octopus™]

DO. My car does that and all I did baby was drop it down on the Coilovers. You need to shoot my M30 anyway brother. It's right up your alley. I'll snap a couple photos but I need the DO magic for Hella Flush.

:)
lolz thats whats up! :D i'll see what i can do. whats your schedule like these days? :thinking:

and YES please do get me some shots. id like to see the fitment :yes:

[Dirty Octopus™]

wait one fuckin minute Jon... :eek:

this aint your car is it?!?!?!?! :eek:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/2830941069_30e7a9a5db_o.jpg

[Dirty Octopus™]

get camber plates. are you planning on running bags or do you wanna be static like this?

Bags are far in the future. :goodjob:

can you explain what camber plates are for me? im still a big car noob :o

Nevermind. i googled :goodjob:

now i just need to find out if they make them for my application and/or if the coilover setup i decide to go with comes with some. :o

[Glides]

wait one fuckin minute Jon... :eek:

this aint your car is it?!?!?!?! :eek:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j261/Knonimous/CAR%20PICS/2830941069_30e7a9a5db_o.jpg

YEa, thats it. But I got 18 x 9 Works on it now. I'm open every sunday or any night whatsoever for a night shoot bro.

[Dirty Octopus™]

YEa, thats it. But I got 18 x 9 Works on it now.yeah i did some searching and saw the pics in your Subaru FS thread. i had no clue you were selling the Subie! i would say im sad its gona but i love the M30 soooooooooo much its crazy!

umm.... we gotta set something up ASAP so PM me your number because i dont have it in my new T-Mobile phone :goodjob:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Bags... and I am out... :cool:

[Dirty Octopus™]

Bags... and I am out... :cool:
how bout i Teabag your 14s?! :haha:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

how bout i Teabag your 14s?! :haha:
Man..Haters everywhere I go...You know you like "the look."

[matthewAPM]

camber and spacers if needed. oh, and coilovers

[Dirty Octopus™]

Man..Haters everywhere I go...You know you like "the look."
whatever Faggotron :gay:

camber and spacers if needed. oh, and coilovers
:headslap:

[southside]

just get a stupid offset lol and stretch the tires like the vws

[industrial_1]

Like so??

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/excelzx3/autofashion/IMG_1535-1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/excelzx3/autofashion/IMG_1576-1.jpg

[SuperChicken]

I'm sorry, but that has to be the dumbest setup I've ever seen...WHY the F would you want to run that?:thinking::???::eek::cry::no:

[IDCoconut]

To get some of the really deep dish wheels on the back of these cars, their arms/links were shortened along with half shalfs if it's rear wheel drive.

We do the same to minitrucks so you can fit deep dish wheels, except we shorten the live axle and the half shafts.

Mazda B2200 w/o rear axles shortened
http://www.mautofied.com/AdPhotos/100017931_1.jpg

The attached pic below is a Mazda B2200 with rear axles/housing shortened 2". Notice both trucks tuck the same. Same concept is used with VIP cars when needed.

Trucks aren't mine, just an example.

[green91]

These guys run a special offset wheel along with a TON of negative camber and likely custom susp. components to get the camber to go that negative.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Like so??

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/excelzx3/autofashion/IMG_1535-1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/excelzx3/autofashion/IMG_1576-1.jpg

EXACTLY! that guy in particular is on bags and he's on dubs. i believe the bags are all the way down in those pics :thinking:

I'm sorry, but that has to be the dumbest setup I've ever seen...WHY the F would you want to run that?:thinking::???::eek::cry::no:
cuzzz.... its supa dupa dope? :dunno:


To get some of the really deep dish wheels on the back of these cars, their arms/links were shortened along with half shalfs if it's rear wheel drive.

We do the same to minitrucks so you can fit deep dish wheels, except we shorten the live axle and the half shafts.

Mazda B2200 w/o rear axles shortened
http://www.mautofied.com/AdPhotos/100017931_1.jpg

The attached pic below is a Mazda B2200 with rear axles/housing shortened 2". Notice both trucks tuck the same. Same concept is used with VIP cars when needed.

Trucks aren't mine, just an example.
aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ha! thats more the type of answer im lookin' for! +15 for you! :goodjob:


These guys run a special offset wheel along with a TON of negative camber and likely custom susp. components to get the camber to go that negative.
im very well aware of that. as i stated it in my initial post. its obvious that they run low offsets. but i was more wondering how they achieved that much negative camber. as someone said earlier camber plates could be a solution so i'm now looking for coilover setups that come with adjustable camber plates :goodjob:

[green91]

since those cars use struts in the rear, you could also use eccentric cam bolts in the struts and possibly longer lcas.

[Dirty Octopus™]

since those cars use struts in the rear, you could also use eccentric cam bolts in the struts and possibly longer lcas.
hmm... do explain. these eccentric cam bolt things. what are they if you dont mind me asking?

[BTEC]

hmm... do explain. these eccentric cam bolt things. what are they if you dont mind me asking?
bolts that adjust camber. if u get camber plates u dnt need them. to use the cam bolts u might have to grind out the top of ur spindle. its a kinda ghetto way to adjust camber to me but i think some cars come with that design from the factory.

[BTEC]

when u rotate the top bolt, the offset washer looking piece moves the spindle
to change camber. bottom bolt doesnt move so it is the pivot bolt.

[green91]

Ive used them quite a bit on toyotas without having to make any modifications to the struts aside from changing the bolts themselves. With the extreme amount of negative camber needed for this type of fitment, every bit of adjustment helps

EDIT:
the eccentric bolts ive used before are more of this style with the lobe being on the bolt itself and not the bolt head.
http://www.subaruwrxparts.com/products/images/camberbolts.jpg

[BTEC]

Ive used them quite a bit on toyotas without having to make any modifications to the struts aside from changing the bolts themselves. With the extreme amount of negative camber needed for this type of fitment, every bit of adjustment helps

EDIT:
the eccentric bolts ive used before are more of this style with the lobe being on the bolt itself and not the bolt head.
http://www.subaruwrxparts.com/products/images/camberbolts.jpg
thats the style i was looking for but i couldnt find any pics.

[Dirty Octopus™]

gee wiz Jesse and green91! thanks!

Jess we may have to talk about it verbally while looking at the car so that i can get a better understanding of it. if thats okay :goodjob:

[Krappy]

they do major suspension mods to the arms and subframes to achieve that... that much camber is achieved due to the mods done to the arms

[Kckouki]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1406/187/61/605782927/n605782927_1139557_6555.jpg

Camber, roll, pull, overfender, spacers, do what you have to do to acheive baller fitment.

[redrumracer]

id say its all in the control arms.

[Bruce Leroy]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1406/187/61/605782927/n605782927_1139557_6555.jpg

Camber, roll, pull, overfender, spacers, do what you have to do to acheive baller fitment.

THak looks nice and all but....

Unless you have bags, or a suspension with NO travel, I don't see how driving around like that it possible.

[industrial_1]

I was poking around a while ago and saw coilovers that had some other part of the suspension built in for big body Nissan sedans:


http://www.onetongarage.com/products/insurance/insurance_y33_coilovers_01.jpg

Also I've heard mention of people running modified S13/14/Z32 components on Nissan sedans. Just some interesting stuff I've come across.

[industrial_1]

A bit much imo. But still hot in its own way.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/2238056171_b48249288f_b.jpg

[Dirty Octopus™]

A bit much imo. But still hot in its own way.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/2238056171_b48249288f_b.jpg

yeah... i must admit i am surprised Grant hasnt chimed in to help a brotha out :cry:

[SuperChicken]

A bit much imo. But still hot in its own way.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/2238056171_b48249288f_b.jpg

I see how to do it now....break your spindles. Done.:goodjob: Or maybe skip the wheel bearings.

[teh_mugen18]

lol, im interested in seeing how this is done too...*bump* for this thread.

[Dirty Octopus™]

I was poking around a while ago and saw coilovers that had some other part of the suspension built in for big body Nissan sedans:

Also I've heard mention of people running modified S13/14/Z32 components on Nissan sedans. Just some interesting stuff I've come across.
Yeah if im not mistaken Grant did that on his Y33.

I see how to do it now....break your spindles. Done.:goodjob: Or maybe skip the wheel bearings.
yeah i think you're on the right track :goodjob:

[LIKEG6]

It's not practical but it looks hella good. I was wonderin how it is done too. I'm sure yokotas13 knows seeing as how he's done it more than a few times.

[carbongs]

homie, i told you that you can't have flush fitment without stretching tires. lol that's what VIP is all about! flush fitment with negative camber lolz