Looking at a Canon 50D. Any advice?

[dtmcnamara]

Ok so I am going tomorrow to look at upgrading from a EOS Reble Xti to a 50D. Any advice? Good, not good? I like the feel of the camera a lot better (I know the 50D and Xti are two totally different things), and I like the layout of everything as well.

Is there any downside to the 50D? Should I just get the 40D?

Thanks

[james]

I would get the 40d. from what i have read the 50d is actually quite a bit noisier than the 40.

newer is not always better.

where are you going tomorrow that you would slap down the cash without knowing whats up?

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=366

[CHADbee]

id keep the xti and buy a baller, sharp, fast lens

[dtmcnamara]

well i have a hella deal set up for tomorrow. 50D body with 25-135mm lens for $1100 after tax...thats the only reason why I am looking.

[JessAlba452]

Sometimes it's not always about the best camera out there, but the best lens. :) For about 1k you could get a lens that makes your shots look like an upgraded camera or better!


Great deal on that 50D none the less though!

[A.P. Photography]

Have fun with the dust using that 28-135 lens. I have it and never use it. It has no tight sealing so it acts like a vaccume for dust when you use it and pulls it into the body.

[dtmcnamara]

humm...maybe i will go up to wolf camera tomorrow and look at a few now ones and trade in a few older ones...

[james]

wolf camera


bad idea no matter what there chief.

[DinanM3atl]

XTi and more lens!

This is coming from someone that has 400D and 40D ;)

IQ and ISO performance are close. Edge goes to 40D. Controls and comfort the 40D slays the XTi though.

50D... meh. Too many megapixels in the sensor.

[imbosile]

bad idea no matter what there chief.

x2

Sell your old lenses on eBay or wherever you'd like and buy the new lens off of B&H. I'm sure there are exceptions, but everything I have ever bought was always cheaper to get through B&H.

[CRAZY_JAY]

I broke my XTi so I was looking at the 40D and 50D. All the reviews for the 50D were bad so I bought 2 40Ds. 1 for me and 1 for my wife.

[DinanM3atl]

I made the same decision. 40D over the 50D. The 50D was just not enough of an improvement to warrant the cost.

[A.P. Photography]

Hmm, I just went Old School and got the 5D. :p

[Tarzanman]

The 5D is a pimp camera, but I would have a really really really hard time justifying the premium price for the body and the expensive-ass lenses you need for it.
enjoy, though!

[YokotaS13]

why?

high iso performance is off the charts, and its FF ftw.
if you dont need it for track stuff, then get a 5d. I have a 40d, and a 1dmk3. if the 40d had high iso performance it would be an awesome camera. but it doesnt, sadly. so i rearely use it unless my other camera is dead.
50d does have the new LCD screen. so thats cool

[blacknightteg]

yeah, honestly i sell them. there isnt really a difference between the 40 and the 50d i would jus tconsider maybe finding a 40d if you want to go into the d series.

[YokotaS13]

unles hte 50d has higher iso. but other than that i dont think it woudl be worth the extra cash. i havent really read up on teh 50d at all, except for a few improvements that arent really picture related

[Tarzanman]

This site runs down the differences between the 40D and 50D. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos50d/

Although the 50D is an upgrade, the difference in price between what you would pay for a 50D and what you would get for a used 40D is not worth the new features unless remote control, 5 more megapixel, and live view are important to you.

[speedminded]

High ISO is overrated, just buy a better lenses :tongue:

Speaking of that, anyone want to buy me a 24mm f/1.4II? :D

[YokotaS13]

This site runs down the differences between the 40D and 50D. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos50d/

Although the 50D is an upgrade, the difference in price between what you would pay for a 50D and what you would get for a used 40D is not worth the new features unless remote control, 5 more megapixel, and live view are important to you.
liveview is on the 40d as well. mine has it

as for the faster lens comment. ever try shooting gym sports? yeah not gonna happen at less than 2,000 iso unless it is SUPER well lit

[james]

high iso performance is off the charts,


5d only goes to 3200

[Tarzanman]

5d only goes to 3200
Don't contradict him. He'll get all PMSy and hormonal on the thread and explain why he's right (even when he isn't).

[speedminded]

5d only goes to 3200Please tell me when you've ever had the need to legitimately use an ISO over 1600 or 3200. Examples would be great too!

He said High ISO performance, as in IQ...he's not saying it has the highest ISO available. High ISO doesn't mean anything if it can't get a quality shot anyways.

[YokotaS13]

5d only goes to 3200
yeah, and you can use it well up there.....
try using 2,000 iso on a 50 or 40d...oh wait. you cant. 3200 is useless on a 40d. 1600 is borderline

[YokotaS13]

Please tell me when you've ever had the need to legitimately use an ISO over 1600 or 3200. Examples would be great too!

He said High ISO performance, as in IQ...he's not saying it has the highest ISO available. High ISO doesn't mean anything if it can't get a quality shot anyways.
i have alot
Car shows where i cant use flash indoors (not many), indoor BBall games i cant flash(some refs wont let you strobe) wrestling, evening football, evening track days, indoor events. i shoot a ton of stuff for work, and i find myself using higher iso to get away from flash if its not needed.

[james]

Please tell me when you've ever had the need to legitimately use an ISO over 1600 or 3200. Examples would be great too!

He said High ISO performance, as in IQ...he's not saying it has the highest ISO available. High ISO doesn't mean anything if it can't get a quality shot anyways.


i was just saying that it only goes to 3200. just a statement. the 5dmkII obviously goes way higher, but so does the pricetag. :(

[YokotaS13]

if you are looking at a 50d...yuo dont need a 5dmk2

[james]

god. damn. never mind.

[Tarzanman]

What did you get?

[.blank cd]

Ok so I am going tomorrow to look at upgrading from a EOS Reble Xti to a 50D. Any advice? Good, not good? I like the feel of the camera a lot better (I know the 50D and Xti are two totally different things), and I like the layout of everything as well.

Is there any downside to the 50D? Should I just get the 40D?

ThanksArent you the kid thats always hurting for money? Isnt that why your car is for sale? If thats the case, i really wouldnt be looking for any kind of camera of that caliber until you get yourself out of whatever hole you are in

[DinanM3atl]

yeah, and you can use it well up there.....
try using 2,000 iso on a 50 or 40d...oh wait. you cant. 3200 is useless on a 40d. 1600 is borderline

o rly?

NO PP other than noise reduction. No Sharpening and no color correction or changes in that department.

Handheld - Granted there is some camera shake but you can see that with the current available PP software and noise reduction capabilities you can shoot high ISO

This is not even going CRAZY with the Noise Reduction...

Canon 40D
Exposure: 0.167 sec (1/6) Aperture: f/4 Focal Length: 40 mm

ISO3200 Straight From Camera:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/3157316194_67ea923986_b.jpg

Canon Raw Processor Noise Reduction:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3156486291_e759be8fe8_b.jpg

Canon Raw + Noise Ninja:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/3157320366_375335c987_b.jpg

[.blank cd]

its the ninja of noise. PM'ed

[DinanM3atl]

roflmao

I got your PM :)


Also when using NN plugin I just used a preset on the 'chart'. So nothing crazy and better noise reduction could have been done.

[HachiDori]

I need a sharper, faster, nicer lense for my 350D, i love it

[james]

I need a sharper, faster, nicer lense for my 350D, i love it


i think what you really need and want is a vertical batter grip for your 350d! :ninja: :ninja: