*HELP* Tow vehicles opinions and experience

[Evolunchbox]

I looking for opinions/experience on new trucks/SUV's out there that would be my best choice to tow my Evo and a trailer. It's seems like now would be a great time to buy looking at the low pricing on some of the vehicles. This will most likely be a daily driver as well so take that into consideration. Also, I can never keep any car/truck/etc I own stock, so I'm also looking for upgradeability as well.

The new Ford F150-250 have some great deals available right now I see. Any ideas/experience on GM's line up? The Toyota Tundra looks like a good option. I'm not looking for a full 4 door cab for a truck. A 2 door with the swing doors would be more of what I wanted. Unless it's an SUV, than obviously 4 doors is ok.

I'm going to make a strong effort at getting around the country this season with the Evo. There were several races I missed this year, not to mention my goal. I'm trying not to let that happen this coming year. All help is greatly appreciated:cheers:

[Kaiser]

1.) Your sig is terrible.

2.) Don't buy American Made if you are worried about warranties. There's the intense possibility that none of the Detroit 3 will exist within two years.

3.) Your biggest concern should be buying a truck that will be least expensive for what you need, and thus you need to be sure that the tow-rating of the truck and it's hitch is rated for your Evo+Car Carrier. Your BEST BET is to buy a BWT (Big White Truck, such as GMC single-cabs, work-truck F150 single cabs) These you can buy with no warranty for much less than the cost of a regular retail vehicle because they are intended for use as commercial trucks. They will typically come with the towing equipment installed and a reinforced tail/tow-hitch. Depending on your area, look around for some of the dealerships nearby.

I would offer more help, but your POS sig is giving me a killer fucking headache.

[Z_Pilot]

Detroit isn't going anywhere. In fact, if you have any extra money laying around I would be buying some of their stock. Back to the subject, I have a 06 F-150 Crew Cab FX4 that I use to tow my Z32 and is my DD. Its a great truck and I have had no issues yet and I just rolled over 63K. One key issue with towing is braking ability. The trailer I use is a twin axle trailer and with no brakes and my truck handles it beautifully. I have also towed a 30+ foot go fast boats which weigh a considerable amount more with no problem. I have a CAI, Roush exhaust, and an Edge programmer and I average 16 mpg. 13 towing a trailer.

[NevrNufTorq]

Detroit isn't going anywhere. In fact, if you have any extra money laying around I would be buying some of their stock. Back to the subject, I have a 06 F-150 Crew Cab FX4 that I use to tow my Z32 and is my DD. Its a great truck and I have had no issues yet and I just rolled over 63K. One key issue with towing is braking ability. The trailer I use is a twin axle trailer and with no brakes and my truck handles it beautifully. I have also towed a 30+ foot go fast boats which weigh a considerable amount more with no problem. I have a CAI, Roush exhaust, and an Edge programmer and I average 16 mpg. 13 towing a trailer.

:lmfao: :lmfao: you bring that gas hauler to my side of town, i'll let you hook up to my 24ft and we'll just put my 240 in it(lightest car i own) and fill your truck up and drive to the state line and back(50 miles), then top her off and see if you get anywhere close to 13mpg towing


if you're going to do any type of true towing back n forth to some of these races you need a diesel....any single rear 2500/f250 will do...i would personally go with the dodge or cheby right now due to the fords suck at mpg...but all are good at mods and programmers/exhaust and all that good stuff

[Z_Pilot]

:lmfao: :lmfao: you bring that gas hauler to my side of town, i'll let you hook up to my 24ft and we'll just put my 240 in it(lightest car i own) and fill your truck up and drive to the state line and back(50 miles), then top her off and see if you get anywhere close to 13mpg towing


if you're going to do any type of true towing back n forth to some of these races you need a diesel....any single rear 2500/f250 will do...i would personally go with the dodge or cheby right now due to the fords suck at mpg...but all are good at mods and programmers/exhaust and all that good stuff

Well no S**t Sherlock its an enclosed trailer which has a massive amount of parasite drag!

[NevrNufTorq]

Well no S**t Sherlock its an enclosed trailer which has a massive amount of parasite drag!

i was speaking of my 24ft flatbed car hauler :taun:

my brother has same truck 2wd and wont get that unloaded running 65mph down the highway much less 70 or 75

[Z_Pilot]

Well you would be putting the car ON the trailer not IN. I know what my MPG is, I know how to divide. Simple as that.

[Atlblkz06]

Why bother with gas - get a real truck. Diesel.

You can get those for dirt cheap used. Between duramax/allison, powerjoke and the cummins (with that terrible dodge body), I don't really know what to choose. I'd probably go with an old dodge 16v.

[NevrNufTorq]

Well you would be putting the car ON the trailer not IN. I know what my MPG is, I know how to divide. Simple as that.

then dont lie or bring your butt to my side of town and prove it, how much you wanna bet it wont get 13 to the state line and back and i'll spring for the fuel regardless win or lose :cheers:

[Z_Pilot]

What good do I have to lie? The guy was asking a question and I was giving my input.

[NevrNufTorq]

What good do I have to lie? The guy was asking a question and I was giving my input.
you're as bad as the guys in kills forum!!!! just gave you terms so put up or shutup....why would you lie????? if you're not then you shouldnt mind coming out here to prove it and make a lil change in your pocket or just keep running your keyboard posting and prove my point :2cents:

hell, i said i'd pay for gas win or lose, what do you have to lose since you know how to divide??????????? :thinking:

[Z_Pilot]

I don't have time for stupid shit such as this. And certainly don't care if you believe me or not. I don't care if you pay for gas, and the money doesn't matter to me. Its a waste of my time and I definitely have better things to do.

[SouthrnStyle]

Just get a 24v cummins and your good to go..

[NevrNufTorq]

I don't have time for stupid shit such as this. And certainly don't care if you believe me or not. I don't care if you pay for gas, and the money doesn't matter to me. Its a waste of my time and I definitely have better things to do.
please dont try to go all big and bad on me...everyone knows i'll pay up if i'm wrong, you're just digging a deeper hole

you said it would and if it will, man up and prove it, pay for your xmas presents with my money or stfu :2up:

[Z_Pilot]

This is pathetic.

[Incontt]

you want a diesel for sure. Gas trucks SUCK for towing. You also want the diesel torque going up hills. Dont listen to "Z Pilot".......he prolly doesnt even have a car let alone a tow pig.

[NevrNufTorq]

you want a diesel for sure. Gas trucks SUCK for towing. You also want the diesel torque going up hills. Dont listen to "Z Pilot".......he prolly doesnt even have a car let alone a tow pig.
i'm betting he has a 8sec 300z that'll bust the poopra first and then come gunning for you but i bet we'll only HEAR about it via a keyboard b/c his car is so :ninja:

[Thighs]

diesel is the way to go, no matter what. it cost me 200 bucks to drive our company gas dually from cumming to salisbury and back, and i was easy on the gas the whole way there. this was unloaded with no trailer.

[Evolunchbox]

Thanks for the suggestions. After a little research I think the Sequoia/Tundra, or a diesel something is where it's at.

Does my sig give you seizures? Didn't even check it out after I changed it.

[Atlblkz06]

Ford and GMC pickups are great, dont judge them based on their horrible cars.

[Cool Cat Racing]

:lmfao: :lmfao: you bring that gas hauler to my side of town, i'll let you hook up to my 24ft and we'll just put my 240 in it(lightest car i own) and fill your truck up and drive to the state line and back(50 miles), then top her off and see if you get anywhere close to 13mpg towing


if you're going to do any type of true towing back n forth to some of these races you need a diesel....any single rear 2500/f250 will do...i would personally go with the dodge or cheby right now due to the fords suck at mpg...but all are good at mods and programmers/exhaust and all that good stuff
I have a 99 crew cab F350 V10 dually with a contractor bed, truck weighs 8200lbs every day and I tow my 42' open trailer with 3 cars on it and get about 11mpg so his 13 is believable to me. Enclosed trailers are horrible on gas which is why I bought the open. I've towed a 27' enclosed trailer with one of our GTR's in it to LA and Miami and I've towed my 42' trailer all over and it weighs about 13000lbs loaded and I have no issues holding 75 all day on the highway, up hills or not. It hasn't been expensive to maintain either. I rebuilt the tranny at 160k and its sitting just under 200k right now with no problems at all and only goes through about .5qt of oil between changes and its loaded with a trailer 80% of the time its running.

[Cool Cat Racing]

please dont try to go all big and bad on me...everyone knows i'll pay up if i'm wrong, you're just digging a deeper hole

you said it would and if it will, man up and prove it, pay for your xmas presents with my money or stfu :2up:
Why do you even care what his mileage is? I don't care if I lived next door I wouldn't bother with your challenge either, he's right, its a waste of time either way. People like you are the reason shit gets started on the internet, you care way too much about other people's stuff. Are you going to bet me that my mileage is wrong too?

[Z_Pilot]

Why do you even care what his mileage is? I don't care if I lived next door I wouldn't bother with your challenge either, he's right, its a waste of time either way. People like you are the reason shit gets started on the internet, you care way too much about other people's stuff. Are you going to bet me that my mileage is wrong too?

Well said, so much drama on here people are so immature.

[ATL_EG]

reap the benifits of making biodeisel, its cheap as balls, and you still have a bitchin tow rig

[SouthrnStyle]

24v FTW

[Kaiser]

Why bother with gas - get a real truck. Diesel.

You can get those for dirt cheap used. Between duramax/allison, powerjoke and the cummins (with that terrible dodge body), I don't really know what to choose. I'd probably go with an old dodge 16v.

A 16v Cummins?

Is this a new setup where there's 4 extra valves randomly scattered throughout the engine? I'm gonna assume you meant a 12v, since a 16v Cummins would be a tractor engine (Though a bitchin' one.)

And I second the diesel vote after further consideration. I don't know why I didn't think of it before. Part of me assumed you wanted a new truck off a lot, since you mentioned the Tundra. I am gonna point out to you though that if you want a new Tundra/Sequoia...you are looking at spending my whole year's income in gas if you wanna tow with it. Good luck with that, good sir.

[NevrNufTorq]

Why do you even care what his mileage is? I don't care if I lived next door I wouldn't bother with your challenge either, he's right, its a waste of time either way. People like you are the reason shit gets started on the internet, you care way too much about other people's stuff. Are you going to bet me that my mileage is wrong too?
oh no,look, z boy has a fan club, if you woulda read my post i posted up my brother has the same truck in 2wd and gets nowhere near that towing but gets only 1 mog better than z boy when not towing so i call bs and he wanted to carry on with it so i made the challenge and all he wants to do is talk on the keyboard.

if your v10 can tote that well and get that good of mpg then good for you, never owned one so i cant tell you what yours does or doesnt but do know what my brother's and several others do so stick to what you know and i'll stick to mine or you can keep riding the noob's nuts :2cents:

[Atlblkz06]

Doh, yes I did mean 12V. I've seen this 94 12V diesel go through hell and back. That thing was one mean mother!

I didnt have respect for tractors till I drove a Ford 3 banger diesel (4600?) and man I pulled an E350 van out of a ditch - BARELY OFF IDLE!

Diesel power!


A 16v Cummins?

Is this a new setup where there's 4 extra valves randomly scattered throughout the engine? I'm gonna assume you meant a 12v, since a 16v Cummins would be a tractor engine (Though a bitchin' one.)

And I second the diesel vote after further consideration. I don't know why I didn't think of it before. Part of me assumed you wanted a new truck off a lot, since you mentioned the Tundra. I am gonna point out to you though that if you want a new Tundra/Sequoia...you are looking at spending my whole year's income in gas if you wanna tow with it. Good luck with that, good sir.

[Atlblkz06]

oh no,look, z boy has a fan club, if you woulda read my post i posted up my brother has the same truck in 2wd and gets nowhere near that towing but gets only 1 mog better than z boy when not towing so i call bs and he wanted to carry on with it so i made the challenge and all he wants to do is talk on the keyboard.

if your v10 can tote that well and get that good of mpg then good for you, never owned one so i cant tell you what yours does or doesnt but do know what my brother's and several others do so stick to what you know and i'll stick to mine or you can keep riding the noob's nuts :2cents:

Your hostility is really uncalled for, just ignore posts you don't agree with. You'll save a lot of time.

[Tracy]

We have had just about everything. I say a Dodge Dually. We currently have a Chevy 4500, which is awesome for the extra room if you travel a lot like we used to (70 weekends in just '06 and '07), but the power is the same as the regular Chevy dually and the 4500 weighs more – it takes alittle longer on the initial get up and go. We liked our F350, but we wish we would have gotten the Dodge Dually instead of the 4500 when we "upgraded".

I would say def diesel and def dually. Even when we used to tow our Supra waaaaayyy back in the day (OMG 2002) in an open car trailer, it SUCKED towing it with a non-dually. It's just tense driving it. The dually is much more relaxing because you don't have to worry about the trailer all over the road. This is especially important to remember if you haul long distances.

If upgrading is really a concern I would say Ford Power Stroke. They have the most available upgradeable parts and ems, from what I know.

Oh and gas mileage is ALWAYS an issue. I wouldn't even bother worrying about that :) Not enough difference to make ya or break ya, really.

[NevrNufTorq]

Your hostility is really uncalled for, just ignore posts you don't agree with. You'll save a lot of time.
brother, there's nothing hostile about it, look at any of my other posts....all i'm doing is messing around but if he wants to cover for his boy then i'll have fun with him too :D

this is nothing but :lmfao: to me, he keeps on posting and doesnt take the bet so who do you think it bothers? me or the keyboard racer? :???: i was content to let it die and then here he comes again, poor kid shoulda got out while he could...but he wanted the last word....just watch, bet he'll post up again

[NevrNufTorq]

We have had just about everything. I say a Dodge Dually. We currently have a Chevy 4500, which is awesome for the extra room if you travel a lot like we used to (70 weekends in just '06 and '07), but the power is the same as the regular Chevy dually and the 4500 weighs more – so no good on the power to weight ratio. We liked our F350, but we wish we would have gotten the Dodge Dually instead of the 4500 when we "upgraded".

I would say def diesel and def dually. Even when we used to tow our Supra waaaaayyy back in the day (OMG 2002) in an open car trailer, it SUCKED towing it with a non-dually. It's just tense driving it. The dually is much more relaxing because you don't have to worry about the trailer all over the road. This is especially important to remember if you haul long distances.

If upgrading is really a concern I would say Ford Power Stroke. They have the most available upgradeable parts and ems, from what I know.
and that 4500 was a sweet ride!!! yall still have it? didnt know since yall didnt drift this year, bet you're glad you didnt since they cancelled so many events :cheers:

[Tracy]

P.S. I was the one who drove the rig 99.9% of the time across the country, so I definitely know what I am talking about. Biggest mistake I ever made was acting like I was cool enough to drive a 65 ft. rig.

[Tracy]

http://a56.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_71c108131e645e44ba972043710f8bd7.jpg

http://www.batlground.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=208

We still have it. It's for sale. It's a good truck, but I would get it for the room more than anything. It tows nice. The dually's just get up a little faster from the jump...and we like faster :)


OH, great thing about 4500.....turning radius! WAY better than a dually.

[NevrNufTorq]

http://www.batlground.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=208

We still have it. It's for sale. It's a good truck, but I would get it for the room more than anything. It tows nice. The dually's just get up a little faster from the jump...and we like faster :)
you know i'm with ya on faster!!!!!! :goodjob:

when yall gonna get yall's supra back up n runnin so we can all go to the track and have 'supra track days' like we used to?!?!?! :cheers: :yes:

[Tracy]

you know i'm with ya on faster!!!!!! :goodjob:

when yall gonna get yall's supra back up n runnin so we can all go to the track and have 'supra track days' like we used to?!?!?! :cheers: :yes:
They are both (we have 2 Supra shells) actually for sale along with the STI. Tis the season for a new ride. I sense a Chevy in my future.

[NevrNufTorq]

They are both actually for sale along with the STI. Tis the season for a new ride. I sense a Chevy in my future.
finally gonna get that z?!?!? you're gonna love it, once you do you'll never be able to go w/o it!!!

[Tracy]

:zipped:

[NevrNufTorq]

:zipped:
just lmk :ninja: , yall coming to hang out at turner field in jan when we go drifting or yall gonna bring one of your cars?!?!?! :bump:

[Kaiser]

Kodiak/Topkicks are great trucks, but I don't think that's what the OP was looking for.

[NevrNufTorq]

Kodiak/Topkicks are great trucks, but I don't think that's what the OP was looking for.
true enough and sorry to evo for the threadjack but i know he understands :goodjob:

this is a constant in the kills forum :crazy:

[OnURleft]

I have friends with Tundra's that tow and they work great until you start adding more weight. For towing a car, and a set of wheels and tires and a few tools they get the job done well. Start adding enclosed trailors, 20+ feet long etc. etc. and you'll need a Diesel or wish you had one.
I'd seriously consider getting a Diesel though. With some minor modifcations you can't even feel a car back there and they get great mileage.

[Evolunchbox]

http://a56.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_71c108131e645e44ba972043710f8bd7.jpg

http://www.batlground.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=208

We still have it. It's for sale. It's a good truck, but I would get it for the room more than anything. It tows nice. The dually's just get up a little faster from the jump...and we like faster :)


OH, great thing about 4500.....turning radius! WAY better than a dually.

That's what I'm talking about! Damn, if I didn't need it for a some what daily I would buy that monster! I even like the black. Thanks for the help Tracy. I'm looking into some kind of diesel based on what I have been reading in here... minus the garbage bickering.... I won't be using a enclosed, as much as I would like to have one. The Sequoia is looking better and better as well.


true enough and sorry to evo for the threadjack but i know he understands :goodjob:

this is a constant in the kills forum :crazy:

Oh, how sad and true:lmfao:

[Tracy]

Kodiak/Topkicks are great trucks, but I don't think that's what the OP was looking for.


That's why I said I would get a Dodge Dually Diesel :)

[Evolunchbox]

That's why I said I would get a Dodge Dually Diesel :)

A Dodge... seriously? I work pretty closely to the big 3 and from what I understand they are discontinuing their truck line? I could be wrong but I know for sure they are not molding parts for them!:thinking:

[Tracy]

A Dodge... seriously? I work pretty closely to the big 3 and from what I understand they are discontinuing their truck line? I could be wrong but I know for sure they are not molding parts for them!:thinking:Well if you talk about it like that, IDK. Honestly, I haven't been keeping up with all of that and we usually buy used anyways. I just know HP, towing capacity and amenities wise, we would like to have a Dodge.

2nd I would say Power Stroke F350.

Like I already said, I would go with dually if you can at all help it (even if it is a single car, open trailer). It makes for a much better towing experience. Especially if you are getting a tag along trailer. Trust me, when you have been racing all day and you haven't slept in 3 days (1 day to get there, 1 day racing and 1 day getting home), you want to have the least amount of stress while driving with a trailer.

[Evolunchbox]

Trust me, when you have been racing all day and you haven't slept in 3 days (1 day to get there, 1 day racing and 1 day getting home), you want to have the least amount of stress while driving with a trailer.

This is the part that REALLY pushes me to get a dually! I 100% agree with you and not having anything more to worry about after the race and having a couple hundred miles in front of you..lol Plus I am new to towning, so I want to be as safe as possible. Have you seen the F650 yet! That thing is huge!
Many thanks Tracy!:cheers:

[Tracy]

This is the part that REALLY pushes me to get a dually! I 100% agree with you and not having anything more to worry about after the race and having a couple hundred miles in front of you..lol Plus I am new to towning, so I want to be as safe as possible. Have you seen the F650 yet! That thing is huge!
Many thanks Tracy!:cheers:Oh hell yea I have seen those monsters!!!! TIGHT! If you are going to go that far, I would get a Freightliner. Talk about fresh to def.

http://www.ranchworldads.com/images/listings/SLATE%20Y00188.jpg

I'll teach you how to drive it :) just for the chance to drive one.

I been driving the race car rigs for about 8 years now. Dan has fake Narcolepsy, so I have driven for days straight to California and back and had to compete in between. OH GAWD! I hate to even think about it now. I don't even know how we did all of that traveling! I am so glad to have a break!

[Kaiser]

OP. How is the Sequoia looking better? Do they make some magic Toyota Diesel Sequoia I'm not aware of? The Sequoia has the same engine as the Tundra, with the same power, weighs a good chunk more, and has a rear suspension designed for rear-passenger ride comfort. You'd probably spend less buying a cheap beater car, paying liability only on it, and buying a diesel to haul your car.

[Tracy]

Oh P.S., domestic parts are easier to come by and cheaper for now. I don't know how all of this big 3 stuff is working. I guess if you want a warranty or need financing, you will buy new anyways. BUT sometimes you break down in the middle of no where and there ain't a dealership for miles. Those are the times you wish you had a domestic. When you have to find parts outside of the dealership.

[Evolunchbox]

The Freightliner is baller as hell! Do I need a special training for that beast?

I hate driving with friends that you know aren't sleeping, but pretend to so they don't have to drive...lmao! I have a buddy that is notorious for that!

Troof on the domestic parts being cheaper and more available.


You'd probably spend less buying a cheap beater car, paying liability only on it, and buying a diesel to haul your car.

This is another option I've been pondering.

[Tracy]

The Freightliner is baller as hell! Do I need a special training for that beast?

I hate driving with friends that you know aren't sleeping, but pretend to so they don't have to drive...lmao! I have a buddy that is notorious for that!Well Dan isn't my buddy, that's for sure. More like my PITA most of the time.

No you don't need a permit for the Freightliner. It's the sport version. You don't need a permit, in general, until you get over 65' and a certain weight, I think. Unless you go to California, then their rules are all crazy.

[NevrNufTorq]

The Freightliner is baller as hell! Do I need a special training for that beast?

I hate driving with friends that you know aren't sleeping, but pretend to so they don't have to drive...lmao! I have a buddy that is notorious for that!

Troof on the domestic parts being cheaper and more available.



This is another option I've been pondering.
yeah, but when you get a really exspensive rig(relative to your situation) you wont let too many friends drive it though :no:

[Barefoot]

i tow all the time with my f150. i have a 20 foot trialer with no brake. it handled ever car ive put on there without a problem. if the trailer had e-brakes it would be perfect. i got mines with a 100k warranty and so far havent had to use it (im at 43k now).

[Tracy]

We let Baller drive ours once and he ran over a Honda. Literally!

[Evolunchbox]

We let Baller drive ours once and he ran over a Honda. Literally!


PICS!!! :lmfao:

[Tracy]

PICS!!! :lmfao:Om man! I will try to dig them up. It was at the SELOC show a few years ago. It happened in the parking lot. He didn't even get out to the street before he ran someone over.

[Evolunchbox]

Vury funny!

[B18c1Turboed]

I would get the F250 with the deals they got right now, you cant go wrong! One of my buddies for one and he tows like nothing is back there, and those seats are so relaxing.

I want one also, i just dont want the truck pymt. hahahahaha.. I tow with a Chevy 1500 and i get about 350 too then tank. But i feel like the truck struggles at 90mph, so time to upgrade also.

[Tracy]

I would get the F250 with the deals they got right now, you cant go wrong! One of my buddies for one and he tows like nothing is back there, and those seats are so relaxing.

I want one also, i just dont want the truck pymt. hahahahaha.. I tow with a Chevy 1500 and i get about 350 too then tank. But i feel like the truck struggles at 90mph, so time to upgrade also.

You tow with a Chevy 1500????? OMG! I would DIE! I have towed the Supra with our 1500 before. Not cute. My 1500 can barely get out of it's own way, much less tow anything :D

[B18c1Turboed]

You tow with a Chevy 1500????? OMG! I would DIE! I have towed the Supra with our 1500 before. Not cute. My 1500 can barely get out of it's own way, much less tow anything :D

hahaha it handles it own. I have towed alot with it,never had a problem. Shoot i used too tow with my Ford Ranger, going up thru the mountians was a little scary, when coming down the mountains. I think i shit in my pants a few times.

I feel alot safer towing with my 1500... Ill take a new truck in donations!!!:goodjob:

[Tracy]

hahaha it handles it own. I have towed alot with it,never had a problem. Shoot i used too tow with my Ford Ranger, going up thru the mountians was a little scary, when coming down the mountains. I think i shit in my pants a few times.

I feel alot safer towing with my 1500... Ill take a new truck in donations!!!:goodjob:

I guess after towing with a Ranger, you would feel safer in anything! The only thing I ever towed with my Ranger (in high school before Dan) was my dirt bikes. They weigh like 2 lbs., though. You CRAZY, son!

[Atlblkz06]

Then again, Tracy's idea of a little tow truck is an F450 lol... j/k

[Evolunchbox]

How about the 99-03 F350's that had the 7.3 Powerstroke Dually? They are priced right and have a freaking freight train engine...lol

[Evolunchbox]

How about the 99-03 F350's that had the 7.3 Powerstroke dually? They are priced right and have a freaking freight train engine...lol

[NevrNufTorq]

How about the 99-03 F350's that had the 7.3 Powerstroke dually? They are priced right and have a freaking freight train engine...lol
if i were getting a ford then that's what i would get is a 7.3...had 2 and never had a problem out of them except for a turbo on one.


had 3 6.0's and had headlift on all three...from word on the street and on diesel forums the newest 6.4 is the same problem...but the 7.3 is a brick outhouse in my and most people's opinions that tow

i will admit though that all my problems were self inflicted cause of programmers, bigger injectors and the like.... just saying cause you said you cant leave them alone and mod also...but 7.3's are great :2cents:

[SPOOLIN]

i tow with a 07 dodge 1500 hemi and its pretty nice, 14-15mpg not to bad! the older 1500 hemis were TERRIBLE

[Evolunchbox]

if i were getting a ford then that's what i would get is a 7.3...had 2 and never had a problem out of them except for a turbo on one.


had 3 6.0's and had headlift on all three...from word on the street and on diesel forums the newest 6.4 is the same problem...but the 7.3 is a brick outhouse in my and most people's opinions that tow

i will admit though that all my problems were self inflicted cause of programmers, bigger injectors and the like.... just saying cause you said you cant leave them alone and mod also...but 7.3's are great :2cents:

Sweet, now it's all about finding one that hasn't been modded much. I even like the exterior look of that series. The interior amenities (radio/nav/sat/back-up cam) can all be added later.

I've seen a couple of them with 100K miles for around $15-$18K... Not sure if that is a good price right now? I need to find a dealer that is sitting on a shit load of inventory thatw ants to dump cars and make great deals. That is the guy that is going to make the deal right now I would think. I would imagine if a private seller wanted to sell their truck they would want the most $$$ they could extract...

Thanks for the help NevrNufTorq:cheers:

[NevrNufTorq]

Sweet, now it's all about finding one that hasn't been modded much. I even like the exterior look of that series. The interior amenities (radio/nav/sat/back-up cam) can all be added later.

I've seen a couple of them with 100K miles for around $15-$18K... Not sure if that is a good price right now? I need to find a dealer that is sitting on a shit load of inventory thatw ants to dump cars and make great deals. That is the guy that is going to make the deal right now I would think. I would imagine if a private seller wanted to sell their truck they would want the most $$$ they could extract...

Thanks for the help NevrNufTorq:cheers:
anytime bro...most of the diesel forums say the exact sme thing and you can get a 7.3 to get some excellent mpg as well....def opt for the backup cam when you can, makes it soooo much easier hooking up to trailers especially big ones when you have to be spot on to hook up... i even have one mounted inside my sliding rear window to hook up my gooseneck double car hauler...just flip a switch to go from tag frame to bed cam :goodjob:

[Evolunchbox]

anytime bro...most of the diesel forums say the exact sme thing and you can get a 7.3 to get some excellent mpg as well....def opt for the backup cam when you can, makes it soooo much easier hooking up to trailers especially big ones when you have to be spot on to hook up... i even have one mounted inside my sliding rear window to hook up my gooseneck double car hauler...just flip a switch to go from tag frame to bed cam :goodjob:

Do you think a gooseneck is the way to go? What are the positive and negative aspects of trailering one of those?

[NevrNufTorq]

Do you think a gooseneck is the way to go? What are the positive and negative aspects of trailering one of those?

for towing it is the best way...lil more bothersome to hook up but nothing totes better than goose or 5th wheel. i like goose cause there's only a ball in the bed and depending on hitch even that is removable...5th wheels are removable but heavy and when in most of your bed is useless :2cents:

only downside to goose also is for a shorthaul lets say from my place up to mainstream....takes a few more min to hook up just to go up there to drop car off but still if i could change my shortbed car to goose or trade for one even i'd do it in a heartbeat...tows better and you can really manuever(sp?) it into almost anywhere b/c you can turn past 90 degrees like a big rig

only thing to get use to is the angle on turn in b/c the ball is in bed so the trailer turns short....plain english turn a lil wide and watch where the trailer follows...mainly right turn so you dont run up on a curb :cheers:

[rmeyer114]

if your looking for a diesel and something that will last for ever we used to have a 98 cummins ram 2500 extended cab and it had balls and had reliability on its side we drove it for about 200,000 miles and then got rid of it when diesel prices went up but if your looking for a tow rig thats the best cummins motor they ever produced and can even hook up a bully dog tuner to them to get better mpg and more HP/TQ

[Evolunchbox]

Preciate your help.^

[B18c1Turboed]

Look here man they got some good prices
http://www.jwtrucks.com/

[Evolunchbox]

Look here man they got some good prices
http://www.jwtrucks.com/

Sweet man! Thank you!

Edit: They do have great deals! DAMN! They have a F250 with the 7.3 diesel, with 143K miles, for around 15K.

[JBalla1036]

Right now I tow with a 05 Infinit QX56, but will be getting a diesel also to do the towing load from now on.

[Tracy]

racingjunk.com is a good place to find used stuff.

[Tracy]

Oh and yes on the gooseneck...for sure.

[Tracy]

mainly right turn so you dont run up on a curb :cheers:

Or a Honda if you are Matt Ball.

[Atlblkz06]

Damn check this out:
Stock R12668
2003 Ford F-350 XLT 7.3L 4X4 44k miles, for 18k.

I wonder how hard it is to do a dually conversion??

[STRteg]

Get a honda ridgline http://automobiles.honda.com/shop/ridgeline.aspx they have a maximum load capacity of 5000lbs and its a honda it will be running when cars are flying

[Blitanicle99]

Maybe its too late but I didn't see this thread before.

Anyways.

Your towing an Evo and a trailer correct?

First you will probably want to go enclosed trailer honestly, its nice to put the extra tires and whatnot inside. I actually tow Ryan Doi's (Bluebyyouevo8) to the track and around the country. I pull a 28 ft enclosed Halmark Trailer without the V nose. V nose trailers aren't that great and don't reduce much drag. Just get a flat nose, its not worth the cash.

Second, the rig your pulling it with. Note to self, yes you can pull it with a 1500 series gas truck but have fun when you wanna drive through the night and depend on your rig to get you back in the mountains of Tennesee at 3 in the morning.
I would highly reccomend a Diesel 3/4 ton truck without doubt. The diesel motors are made for heavy towing loads and suspension under those trucks are going to be much tougher.

Your two choices would be a Dodge 2500/3500 Diesel (cummins) with a manual tranny. I would not trust the Auto matic towing with that truck. The Cummins motor is a great inline six motor however the tranny is quite weak. I would get the manual if I drove a dodge.

The other choice which is my pick after serious consideration, would be an F250/350. I have an 03 F250 FX4 6.0 Diesel. Its stock with exhaust and pulls a 10k load like its nothing. I have driven Dodges and Fords and Chevys, I personally favor the International Powerstroke Motor. I have pulled up next to Common Rail Cummins Dodges on the highway with similiar loads and I can easily pull on them and my truck doesn't down shift going up a hill, the V8 torque just pulls it right up. Ford Superduty trucks also feature a 5 speed tranny which is usually good for 500-550 hp in stock form. Many many many Ford Owners are running stock trannies with 300k and pushing well into 500 hp.

You could also get a Duramaxx Chevy but I personally do not like the chevy heavy duty trucks. They are IFS (independent front suspension) and are not made for abuse.

I have pulled 10k loads with my 1500 5.3 chevy and will never do it agian. I took a 70 mile trip with my 1500 and wasn't sure if my engine was going to hold up to how hard I was working it.



I know many people have posted but I would like to remind you that I actually tow exactly what you have and am very familiar with these things.
My setup -
03 F250 Diesel
28 Ft Hallmark Enclosed
Track Evo 8
Extra tires, tools, air compressor, fridge, full lights and AC in the trailer, winch too.
(Think about getting a winch in your trailer so when you do put it into a wall you can pull it back in the trailer without people taking a million FUCKING pictures :2up: while your shit is wrecked.




Seriously, if you have anymore questions feel free to PM me Ill help as best of my knowledge.

[wazimba]

go here he sells good trucks for cheap http://mikesdiesels.com/

[slow_hatch]

How about the 99-03 F350's that had the 7.3 Powerstroke Dually? They are priced right and have a freaking freight train engine...lol

The 7.3s were great trucks. Our business upgraded( :rolleyes: ) from an '01 F250 w/ the 7.3 to a '06 F350 w/ the 6.0. The 6.0 is JUNK we have had alot of problems with it, & it is all stock too. We've had to have multiple sets of injectors replaces, had diesel get into the coolant and had to have both heads along with the entire coolant system replaced, had the rear end destroy itself, front diff. always leaks, random speedo not working and cutting boost down to 19psi from like 25psi, other random shit, and not to mention it pulls like shit. We had a rental '05 Dodge 3500, and it would absolutely rip down low, and it was only a 4 speed auto while the Ford is a 6 speed auto. The ford has alot of lag IMO, and after riding in a few other dodges I can say I would never buy a Ford diesel unless it was an older 7.3. Just a few of my experiences.

[Blitanicle99]

Talk is cheap until you own one. Your 6.0 ran like crap because you didn't take car of it. Simple and sweet. Do what Ford tells you to do and it will never stop running. I chose the weakest of the 6.0 Diesel motors the 2003 just to spite people talking smack about the 6.0 being junk.

Oh and put 10,000 lbs behind the that Dodge and see how much fun you have going up a hill without 4.10s, then you'll appreciate the well design of a International Motor.