has anyone here refused a cop to search your car?

[4dmin]

has anyone here refused a cop to search your car?

explain outcome of this.

[jacktheraper]

Didnt search my car.

[redrumracer]

i havent but the outcome would prob be gettin a drug dog out to give probable cause.

[4dmin]

Didnt search my car.

i was debating this w/ couple tools at work - "if you say no they are going to search you"... i was told that cops never take NO for an answer.

[4dmin]

i havent but the outcome would prob be gettin a drug dog out to give probable cause.

but again if you have done nothing wrong they need probably cause to search... so even w/ drug dog the dog would have to smell drugs before they would have probable cause or the officer would have to say he saw/smelled drugs

[silversol]

my buddy did they brought the k9 and the dog scratched the door.

[OneSlow5pt0]

didnt even know they asked........thought they just did it

[redrumracer]

well they have to have probable cause, and if your not doing anything wrong then you can say no, and if they do the search then its a lawsuit if you have the balls to sue.

[alpine_aw11]

Most cops, as in 99%, do not take no for an answer. If they want to search you, they're going to some way or another. I love it when kids at parties say that if you don't answer the door the cops can't do shit, as if they wont stand outside and beat your door down until they get in somehow.

[4dmin]

didnt even know they asked........thought they just did it

here you go


When are police legally allowed to search me?

Police officers are legally allowed to search your home or your property if they obtain a search warrant. To obtain a warrant, police officers must write out an affidavit -- a written statement under oath -- to convince a judge that they have probable cause to believe that criminal activity is occurring at the place to be searched or that evidence of a crime may be found there.

As a general rule, searches conducted without a warrant are automatically unreasonable and hence violate the Fourth Amendment. But in fact most searches occur without warrants because police take advantage of these many legal exceptions to the Fourth Amendment:



Consent Searches If the police ask your permission to search your home, purse, briefcase or other property, and you freely consent, their warrantless search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during a consent search can be used to convict the person.
Plain View Rule This is common sense: Always keep any private items that you don’t want others to see out of sight. Legally speaking, police do not need a search warrant in order to confiscate any illegal items that are in plain view.
Searches Made in Connection with a Legal Arrest Police do not need a warrant to make a search "incident to an arrest." After a legal arrest, police can legally protect themselves by searching the person and the immediate surroundings for weapons that might be used to harm the officer. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Exigent Circumstances A judge may uphold an officer’s warrantless search or seizure if "exigent circumstances" exist. Exigent circumstances were described by one court as "an emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect or destruction of evidence."
WARNING: If you ever face a real-life police encounter where the officer is urging you to consent to a search, do not try to figure out whether or not the search is legally permissible. You must assume that the search is not legally permissible and that the search will only be legal if you consent. If an officer is in fact legally allowed to search you, you have nothing to lose by refusing to consent.

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I refused a search, but the officer searched me anyway. Was it an illegal search? What should I do?

Unfortunately police sometimes search you even if you refuse consent. If they find anything illegal, you’ll have to get a lawyer and fight it out in court.

If the officer convinces the judge that there was probable cause to search without your consent, then the evidence will be admissible in court. If your lawyer convinces the judge that there was no probable cause, then the evidence will be thrown out and your charges will be dropped. Every case is different so it’s hard for us to tell you how good your chances are in your particular case. Your attorney should be able to tell you what to expect from the judges in your area.

If you’re searched illegally and nothing is found, you should still consider taking legal action or at least filing a complaint. Local attorneys, as well as your local ACLU and NAACP chapters may be able to help you.

[redrumracer]

didnt even know they asked........thought they just did it
no, normally you will just say ok out of fear. thats how cops work effectively is based on the fear of the public. know your laws and be on the same playing ground as them.

[4dmin]

no, normally you will just say ok out of fear. thats how cops work effectively is based on the fear of the public. know your laws and be on the same playing ground as them.

this is what i was saying... worst thing that can happen is they search you w/o probable cause or a warrant and you can file complaint or possibly sue. you can't get in trouble for saying NO when they ask. they ask b/c they have no other way in your car legally.

[OneSlow5pt0]

yea,i mean as far as i know nothing illegal has ever been in my car(unless something from previous owner)since i dont drink or smoke,only thing in my car is some cds and insurance

[4dmin]

yea,i mean as far as i know nothing illegal has ever been in my car(unless something from previous owner)since i dont drink or smoke,only thing in my car is some cds and insurancegranted it would be way easier to say YES but then again you have the right to say NO. maybe its just me but if i haven't done anything right i feel i should stand up for my rights and say NO.

[redrumracer]

this is what i was saying... worst thing that can happen is they search you w/o probable cause or a warrant and you can file complaint or possibly sue. you can't get in trouble for saying NO when they ask. they ask b/c they have no other way in your car legally
yea you cant get in trouble for saying no, but if a cop ask me to search ill normally say sure cause

A: i dont have anything to hide
B: i was probably speeding so being cooperative might possibly get me out of a ticket or get it reduced, everyone likes a nice person.

[xlivingfor1x]

if your having a party and the cops show up, can they come into the apartment? or do you have to tell them they can come in?

does it make a difference if its an apartment or a house?

[GTScoob]

Well cops legally cannot go into a locked trunk. Same with your house. They need a warrant to legally search either. If they search it anyways and find anything you'll go spend a night in jail, have to post bail, and then your case will be thrown out when you appear to court.

Know your rights, but know that they only hold up in the court of law and no cop likes being told what he can and cannot do.

[redrumracer]

if your having a party and the cops show up, can they come into the apartment? or do you have to tell them they can come in?

does it make a difference if its an apartment or a house?
well if you open the door and they see illegal stuff then they can enter w/o you being ok with it. hell if they smell it that gives them probable cause.

or if a jackass at the party calls the cops and says something is about to happen to them they can enter.

[4dmin]

yea you cant get in trouble for saying no, but if a cop ask me to search ill normally say sure cause

A: i dont have anything to hide
B: i was probably speeding so being cooperative might possibly get me out of a ticket or get it reduced, everyone likes a nice person.

how can you get in trouble if asked to search your car if you say NO? it is your right to say NO. it doesn't mean throw yourself in front of him and try to stop him. he can only search w/ probably cause or a warrant w/o your consent.

[redrumracer]

how can you get in trouble if asked to search your car if you say NO? it is your right to say NO. it doesn't mean throw yourself in front of him and try to stop him.
thats what i said, you cant get in trouble for saying no.

i was just stating why i say yes.


and the yea at the beginning was agreeing with you. should have put a comma there.

[4dmin]

thats what i said, you cant get in trouble for saying no.

i was just stating why i say yes.

gotcha i misread :D

[OneSlow5pt0]

since were on this legal talk.........i got pulled over couple months ago for no reason,so they coem up to my window and say they are on the look out for a car like mine,said it was from some rape case,then after they said they didnt think it was me..he said well since i have u here lets see if u have any warrents....now i dont

is any of this legal? if they would have tried to charge me with anything? even ticket

[redrumracer]

since were on this legal talk.........i got pulled over couple months ago for no reason,so they coem up to my window and say they are on the look out for a car like mine,said it was from some rape case,then after they said they didnt think it was me..he said well since i have u here lets see if u have any warrents....now i dont

is any of this legal? if they would have tried to charge me with anything? even ticket
yes its legal, you matched a description. also searching for warrants while they have you there isnt illegal

[4dmin]

since were on this legal talk.........i got pulled over couple months ago for no reason,so they coem up to my window and say they are on the look out for a car like mine,said it was from some rape case,then after they said they didnt think it was me..he said well since i have u here lets see if u have any warrents....now i dont

is any of this legal? if they would have tried to charge me with anything? even ticket

i think they can stop you b/c you possibly could be the person they are looking for... as for the warrants looking up i don't know.

[OneSlow5pt0]

yes its legal, you matched a description. also searching for warrants while they have you there isnt illegal

but they could make up the whole story,and just profiling me

[redrumracer]

but they could make up the whole story,and just profiling me
could have but i doubt it.

[xlivingfor1x]

well if you open the door and they see illegal stuff then they can enter w/o you being ok with it. hell if they smell it that gives them probable cause.

or if a jackass at the party calls the cops and says something is about to happen to them they can enter.


well i my parties only have alcohol. no drugs. but if they see a bunch of beer, and its obvious that its not a bunch of middle school kids there, they cant do anything, just asking cause my 21st is next week and i will have like 5 people that are like 19 or 20 and i didnt want anyone getting in trouble

[redrumracer]

well i my parties only have alcohol. no drugs. but if they see a bunch of beer, and its obvious that its not a bunch of middle school kids there, they cant do anything, just asking cause my 21st is next week and i will have like 5 people that are like 19 or 20 and i didnt want anyone getting in trouble
yea just dont let them in, and show them your id, and the ones under 21, hide em. oh and be respectful. they normally go to parties cause of noise complaints.

[xlivingfor1x]

yea just dont let them in, and show them your id, and the ones under 21, hide em. oh and be respectful. they normally go to parties cause of noise complaints.

thats what i figured, its at my friends apartment and i didnt want him in trouble for supplying to minors or anything or people getting MIP's

thanks

[GTScoob]

Man it must suck to have cops that care about drug use at parties. Most of the APD and GTPD around here just come up and tell you to turn the music down and dont care whats going on 10ft from them. Last week my neighbors had a cop come up and tell them to quit blowing off fireworks at 2am and their dumbass friend kept hitting a bowl on the front porch . . . cop drove away and said if he had to come back there would be bigger problems than just fireworks.

I even had a cop call me out on being stoned at a party my freshmen year of college, he asked if I was high or drunk (I was both), and being underage and stupid I said high and that I didnt have anymore (I didnt), so he told me to get a ride home since I was underage and didnt need to be around alcohol. Coolest cop ever.

90% of cops is how you deal with them, 10% is the cop's general attitude regarding the situation.

[EJ25RUN]

Never been asked.

[Gutling]

I have before and I have told them no before. depends on the attitude of the officer, if there nice and just giving me a warning or something I will let them out of courtesty. but if there a dick and don't have anything just trying to find something I will say no. I know the plain sight rule, and if they really think you got something they can hold you and let a drug dog sniff around the outside of the car. Most cops just ask because most people assume they have to.

[4dmin]

Never been asked.

i have only been asked once and i was in HS - i let them do it but i would never say yes just for the sheer fact i don't have to. though it is a waste of both of our time to delay such things i just would get off wasting his time/mine and then him find nothing.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I've been asked 3 times. I refused 2 and consented to one cuz...well I wasnt in a rush and wanted to see what they look for.

[Atlblkz06]

I was in work clothes driving a rental jeep when I was pulled over for an illegal left turn in NJ. I played the "I'm lost" game like a champ and blamed the GPS lol.

My license was beaten up and he thought it was a fake... stupid pig. He says "I've seen GA licenses before and this one is fake". I just said "Well this is real - do what will."

I consented to a search because the car was empty, and since I made an illegal turn and didn't have proper registration on the car (company rental) - I wanted to be nice to him.

He let me go but not before asking me a ton of stupid questions with 4 back-up cars. I swear the other (younger) cops were trying not to laugh at the first cop's paranoia, it was pretty funny.

[SleepingTalon]

I've had this happen many times to me. I've done both, but the time I said "no" was just because I wanted to watch them sort through all sorts of shit and see them on all 4's like a bunch of retards, thinking they would find something that didn't exist.

Of course, I've had them search the car WITHOUT asking, and that was when there WAS shit in the car...A LOT of shit at that. I actually got felony drug trafficking charges when they found what I was concealing, but thanks to the good old 4th amendment, they had to drop the charges for the 1000 pills, pages of acid, and few thousand pharmies they found. Boy did they think they hit a gold mine though, lol. It all blew up in their face when we went to court though, thanks to a good attorney, and a pile of cash!

[FRYLOCK]

I've had this happen many times to me. I've done both, but the time I said "no" was just because I wanted to watch them sort through all sorts of shit and see them on all 4's like a bunch of retards, thinking they would find something that didn't exist.

Of course, I've had them search the car WITHOUT asking, and that was when there WAS shit in the car...A LOT of shit at that. I actually got felony drug trafficking charges when they found what I was concealing, but thanks to the good old 4th amendment, they had to drop the charges for the 1000 pills, pages of acid, and few thousand pharmies they found. Boy did they think they hit a gold mine though, lol. It all blew up in their face when we went to court though, thanks to a good attorney, and a pile of cash!

I call BS:taun:

[SleepingTalon]

I call BS:taun:

I hope you're not serious. I guess I could post a copy of my NCIC on here, but I'm not really that keen on doing that.

[4dmin]

i'll believe considering the source :goodjob:

[SleepingTalon]

i'll believe considering the source :goodjob:

Exactly. The people that have been around for a minute, know me, and know I don't bullshit. That happened in summer of 2001, so it was awhile ago...back when I was up to no good, lol. I got lucky though, because if I was convicted, I'd probably still be in prison.

[thecrazyone]

If its because of a drug dog that you get searched its probably set up, officers have words and or signals to make the dog bark in the way im thinking "false alerting" its not a big secret but not a lot of people think about it.

I was asked by a cop if he could look and see if there was a dead body in my trunk. true stroy.

[2.25teg]

possession charge open container dui hell of some fines couple nights in jail an one expensive lawyer bill lol

[OnURleft]

Yes. I had no drugs and was late for a track weekend at 6:30a.m. My entire car was empty (obviously) and I was not waiting for his fat ass to get a dog out there so I could miss my first session at Road A and tech inspection. I just said NO, I have no drugs and it's just a waste of time to even think about searching for drugs. The tool gave me 67 in a 55. I got it removed.

[Z33_kid]

never have searched my car yet.. iv heard if you say no it looks bad plus they will have a warrant in 5 mins printed out to search

[gtrmonkey]

Told cops that No numerous times in a kind matter. They don't search my car or take it a step further

[mushroom_toy]

I was asked one time if I had a bazooka in my truck....because he said I smelled of alcohol (orbit chewing gum) and i could be hiding many weapons behind my bench seat.

[§treet_§peed]

every time i have been pulled over and searched i said sure go for it. even tho maybe 2 out of the 30 times i have been pulled over just for looking suspicious or whatever, i have got a ticket for something, no matter how ridiculous it may heave been. i only drink, i don't drink and drive. anyways, every time i have been searched, the cop(s) always sling shit every where. destroy the inside of my car making a mess and just pissed me off. but whatever. im saying no from now on, cause like i said i have nothing to hide, but if you say no in my experience of being in a car with some people that have said no, the cop(s) get suspicious. so your fucked either way. all it takes is probable cause. your word against theirs. Also, cops are dirty as fuck and will plant shit in your car. i witnessed it a few times. two out of the times nothing happened cause my friend caught it with his cell phone camera. the other times i have saw it i was in a group that got pulled over riding thru the mountains looking suspicious..

[Buttons]

i tried to refuse. but then he arrested me on a bullshit reason. then he searched my car :(

[§treet_§peed]

that will happen

[tdurr]

yea you cant get in trouble for saying no, but if a cop ask me to search ill normally say sure cause

A: i dont have anything to hide
B: i was probably speeding so being cooperative might possibly get me out of a ticket or get it reduced, everyone likes a nice person.

not true. I have been deemed the nicest person in like my town lol, and gotten 2 tickes for crap. Once got my license suspened for six months and the other one was 130 bucks.

But anyways, i never have shit on me. if i did id still say no. lol. Just cuz. Id say it nicely but id say no. I dont like anyone getting my car dirty.

[nreggie454]

Always say NO. It is your right, and no warrant = no search (technically). Also, the fact that you said no could end up saving you in court.

I have heard rumors that some cops try to use the fact that you said "no" to be their probable cause, but I hope that isn't true. Usually, though, if a cop wants to search your car bad enough, he will find a reason.

[Elbow]

Cop only asked once when I was riding with a friend, we let him, he decided not to when we said ok lol.

[csmiths]

i have said no to a cop. he basically asked me if he could, without even telling me why he pulled me over, and i said no. then he basically beat around the bush for a minute and was like "so did you consent to a search of your vehicle," and i said no.

so he left my car, came back 2 seconds later and told me to get out. I did then he patted me down and told me that he was going to walk his dog around my car and was basically trying to scare me into saying yes to a search. but i knew i had nothing in my car so i said no again.

then he walked his dog around my car twice, the the dog stuck his head into my window and jumped back down. and that was it. after he realized i had nothing in my car he was all nice to me, which i was pissed about. then came to find out all this was because my tag light was out, and he wrote me the ticket. and no joke the officers name was Mr. Weed. lilburn city cop, which is pretty ironic having that name and being a cop.

but they can search your shit if it stinks like reefer, which alot of retards dont understand, but if your legal and done nothing wrong, you can say no to a search and be fine

[qwick]

I was pulled over once because me and my car looked suspicious(WTF?) and after the officer asked for my license and registration he told me to turn the car off and that he would be right back. When he returned he wanted to check the tint on my windows, after that he asked me to step out of the car and asked if I had any drugs on me or in the car. After I told him no I didn’t have anything on me or in the car he said “well I’m gonna need to search your car” and put me in handcuffs and set me in the back of the police cruiser. After about 10-15 min searching he didn’t find anything and let me go, the next day I filed a complaint and was told that the officer did have probable cause because of the area I was in, the car I was driving, my age, sex, and race made me look suspiciously like a known drug dealer.

[mushroom_toy]

I was pulled over once because me and my car looked suspicious(WTF?) and after the officer asked for my license and registration he told me to turn the car off and that he would be right back. When he returned he wanted to check the tint on my windows, after that he asked me to step out of the car and asked if I had any drugs on me or in the car. After I told him no I didn’t have anything on me or in the car he said “well I’m gonna need to search your car” and put me in handcuffs and set me in the back of the police cruiser. After about 10-15 min searching he didn’t find anything and let me go, the next day I filed a complaint and was told that the officer did have probable cause because of the area I was in, the car I was driving, my age, sex, and race made me look suspiciously like a known drug dealer.

You should have recorder the phone convo. Racial profiling ftl.

[Kevykev]

Just comply because the bottom line is: YOU TIME WILL BE WASTED.

There is NO SUCH thing as Winning in Court in regards to a citation, even if the ticket gets dropped.

Bottom line is, Your time is going to be wasted, especially if you took an unpaid day off.

I've never been asked yet.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

every time i have been pulled over and searched i said sure go for it. even tho maybe 2 out of the 30 times i have been pulled over just for looking suspicious or whatever, i have got a ticket for something, no matter how ridiculous it may heave been. i only drink, i don't drink and drive. anyways, every time i have been searched, the cop(s) always sling shit every where. destroy the inside of my car making a mess and just pissed me off. but whatever. im saying no from now on, cause like i said i have nothing to hide, but if you say no in my experience of being in a car with some people that have said no, the cop(s) get suspicious. so your fucked either way. all it takes is probable cause. your word against theirs. Also, cops are dirty as fuck and will plant shit in your car. i witnessed it a few times. two out of the times nothing happened cause my friend caught it with his cell phone camera. the other times i have saw it i was in a group that got pulled over riding thru the mountains looking suspicious..Your stories are always full of shit and this one is no different.

[Total_Blender]

One time me and some friends got pulled over and we were all 15-16 and we had a bunch of pot and a few half-empty liquor bottles in the car. The reason we got pulled over was because my friend had just bought his car and had the temporary plate from the car lot still on.

So when he asked to search the car my friend politely said no. The cop proceeded to question us about where we were going and what we were doing and none of us lost our tempers or anything.

I don't know if the cop got a more important call he had to respond to, or if he decided he didn't want to be late for supper waiting for the drug dog, but he came running back to the car, gave my friend our licenses and the car's registration back, and took off with his blue lights on. :police:

If you are guilty, and you know you're gonna get busted, it may play to your advantage to stall/waste their time as much as you can.

[BanginJimmy]

This actually happened to me yesterday.

I got pulled over in my truck for riding with the front up and the back low. The cop came up to my truck and asked to search the truck. I asked him why and he said it was simply for his safety. I told him he could look through the window if he liked but that was all. The cop asked if I had any weapons in the car and I did tell him yes. I had my glock on my hip, and if he liked I would get out of the car and allow him to hold it while I got my concealed carry card out of my wallet. He just asked me to get my card out. He then proceded to tell me that unless I gave him permission to search he was going to give me the ticket for modified suspension and for too little bumper clearance.

At that point I told him no and that if he gave me a ticket I would fight the ticket and sue for coersion for a illegal search. I knew I would win both and so did he because he was being recorded. I still may call the Sheriff's dept and file a complaint, but I was dumb and didnt get his name.

disclaimer: I am a criminal justice student and just finished this class last quarter so I knew the GA rules for a search. I dont reccommend anyone doing what I did because you could end up in a shitty situation.

[Kevykev]

I am a criminal justice student and just finished this class last quarter so I knew the GA rules for a search. I dont reccommend anyone doing what I did because you could end up in a shitty situation.


Props for adding a "moral of the story" portion.


What's real reason for denying the search, what'd you have back there? :ninja:

[BanginJimmy]

What's real reason for denying the search, what'd you have back there? :ninja:

I was in a really shitty mood and looking for a fight. I typically let a cop search if he isnt being a dick about it.

[blackboi50]

i would bribe the cop!!!

if he asked to search my car i would be like "if u dont find anything u have to rip the tickets up!!!"

hahaha then ill go to jail for bribing a cop!!! but it would make them think about it!!!.......

id have a fucking poker face too!!!!........1

[XLR8NMR2]

One of my friends back in the day was leaving a party and as he was leaving the cops showed up and came up to his car, Gave him a breathalyzer and he was good then they asked to search he said no but they ended up searching anyways and found a quarter pound of weed in the trunk with $2000 in rolled up 100's

to make a long story short he spent a night in jail the cops only wrote 1 ounce on the police report and $500 in cash and he never had a court case....i wonder where all the other money and weed ran off to?

cops will search if they want to.

[Max_nino]

this how you have to do it . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyokKFIecIo

[Alan®]

I'll go back and read this but you guys do know that by signing your name on your license you are agreeing to comply with any request an officer submits to you right?

[ATL_EG]

first off i declined a search and EVERY SQUARE INCH of my car was searched



but again if you have done nothing wrong they need probably cause to search... so even w/ drug dog the dog would have to smell drugs before they would have probable cause or the officer would have to say he saw/smelled drugs

cops will often "false start" a k-9 unit to gain access to your vehicle, its very easy for them so my advice is just play it cool like you got nothing on you and hope they don't look too hard, otherwise they'll find a way to rip you a new one

[stephanie]

i let him search it, because they can call for a warrant....i wasnt riding dirty

[tdurr]

I'll go back and read this but you guys do know that by signing your name on your license you are agreeing to comply with any request an officer submits to you right?

Im pretty sure, when you sign, all you are agreeing to is to taking roadside test for drugs, being drunk, and other things like that. Not giving up your rights to let a police officer inside your car.

If that was the case they wouldnt need search warrants to go inside your house.

[BanginJimmy]

A bit of bad info in this thread.


I'll go back and read this but you guys do know that by signing your name on your license you are agreeing to comply with any request an officer submits to you right?




Im pretty sure, when you sign, all you are agreeing to is to taking roadside test for drugs, being drunk, and other things like that. Not giving up your rights to let a police officer inside your car.

tdurr is correct. All you are agreeing to is roadside sobriety tests. Those are a form of search, that is why that disclaimer is on your license application. You are not consenting to a search of your vehicle.

[BanginJimmy]

first off i declined a search and EVERY SQUARE INCH of my car was searched

I dont believe you. If you said plain and simple , no, to a search and they still searched, you had a rock solid civil rights violation case. Every cop in the Atlanta area has a camera and/or mic on them for every stop. Because of this, a cop is not going to simply ignore the fact that you said no to a search. They all know that they are personably liable for it, not their department of city/county.





cops will often "false start" a k-9 unit to gain access to your vehicle, its very easy for them so my advice is just play it cool like you got nothing on you and hope they don't look too hard, otherwise they'll find a way to rip you a new one

I have no clue what a "false start" is but if you mean letting the dog sniff the exterior of the car then that is very much legal. If you have something illegal on you and it is found during a search, what the cops do is not called ripping you a new one, it is called giving you what you have earned.

[§treet_§peed]

Your stories are always full of shit and this one is no different.lol wtf r you talking about? you obviously haver never had rn ins with the law...

[§treet_§peed]

I dont believe you. If you said plain and simple , no, to a search and they still searched, you had a rock solid civil rights violation case. Every cop in the Atlanta area has a camera and/or mic on them for every stop. Because of this, a cop is not going to simply ignore the fact that you said no to a search. They all know that they are personably liable for it, not their department of city/county.






I have no clue what a "false start" is but if you mean letting the dog sniff the exterior of the car then that is very much legal. If you have something illegal on you and it is found during a search, what the cops do is not called ripping you a new one, it is called giving you what you have earned. i agree thats why i stay legal ftw, these days

[Dracc]

as many of you know I am blacc.. and I often drive around with the gun and or a bandanna hanging from my rearview... I can not and I repeat CAN NOT refuse a search or the outcome might be something placed in my car or the I Fit the description bit.. My car has been searched before and I got popped with a ticcet.. unlawful carrying of a concealed weapon which was dropped because I was in my pops trucc and it was his Gun under his seat.