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jap_racer1
12-10-2008, 08:58 PM
I have a set of stage 2 n/a cams they are part number 63402a-2 i am trying to figure out what to degree them to i have aem cam gears so does anyone have a way to point me to find the specs so i can just turn the cams and set them retarded or advanced??

scttydb411
12-10-2008, 11:21 PM
like i said before on the phone...the only real way to do it is w/ a degree wheel and the specs of the cam. if crower will give you the settings (they usually won't) that can be a place to start. the only cams i know of that give good starting settings are skunk2 and they are pretty close. they only problem is when there has been some shaving/milling of head/block and/or major variations in the setup from the original tested engine.

the only people i would trust on this would be crower...2nd would be someone physically degreeing them in with specs in hand.

scabtastic
12-10-2008, 11:27 PM
yeah every other forum ive been on the general consensus on this is with the degree wheel.

jap_racer1
12-11-2008, 12:05 AM
like i said before on the phone...the only real way to do it is w/ a degree wheel and the specs of the cam. if crower will give you the settings (they usually won't) that can be a place to start. the only cams i know of that give good starting settings are skunk2 and they are pretty close. they only problem is when there has been some shaving/milling of head/block and/or major variations in the setup from the original tested engine.

the only people i would trust on this would be crower...2nd would be someone physically degreeing them in with specs in hand.

O i believe you sctty i tried crower they said i have to use a degree wheel the only thing is i have no way to get that dont by saturday?? i aint ever messed with that kinda stuff so i dont want to bother with it untill i learn so ???

BABY J
12-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Blox cams come w/ that info on the cam card as well. Are you SURE there is no documentation in the box? I'm pretty sure there should be unless u bought then used.

jap_racer1
12-11-2008, 08:20 PM
no they come with info for a degree card but it doesnt tell you the exact degree just to turn the cam gears too soo i am prolly gonna pay mainstream to do it!!

VickNotic
12-12-2008, 02:11 AM
i've had these before, pretty aggressive i'd say but i 4got what degree mines was in but i just didn't care bout the degress i just slipped them on ! and bam bamm bamm Boomm i was on the road under 2years and sold them.. never had a chance to tune them..! biGG difference i tell ya .. but ion if it's the same as mines my was the 402a the N/A application

jap_racer1
12-12-2008, 01:31 PM
yeah same ones but i am in a slight built GSR bottom and up so i am getting it tuned i am already tuned on some shitty cams but i am upgrading all the way around!!

scttydb411
12-12-2008, 10:42 PM
call me when you find out what day you're off next week...hopefully it's mon-wed. otherwise, we can work something out for mon-wed of the following week.

jap_racer1
12-17-2008, 04:04 AM
OK everything is together and we got something going now!! I have
GSR bored to 82mm with PR30 pistons
stock rods and crank
ACL race bearings
Stock GSR head after the ported one cracked :(
i have dual springs unknown name
titanium retainers
crower cams stage 2 N/A
AEM CAM GEARS for a tru time
ctr header
cold air
260cc venom injectors might switch to 440's
Holley 255 lph fuel pump

BABY J
12-17-2008, 09:17 AM
So you went w/ RACE bearings? Is this going to be a DD? If so I'd save those and just get the ACL non-race bearings. Also --- why not hold off for some different rods? And are the PR30 pistons 82mm??:thinking:

ash7
12-17-2008, 11:18 AM
BabyJ is right.

-jonathan

BABY J
12-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Also --- stock injectors will be just fine.

ash7
12-17-2008, 03:27 PM
BabyJ is still right.

-jonathan

boosted b
12-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Yeah why would u change injectors stock can hold 200 hp

jap_racer1
12-18-2008, 02:04 AM
stock can hold 185 i have 260cc in there a set of stock at the house and a set of 440cc in my back seat i think i am good got it tuned something aint right only 163whp 124wtq

BABY J
12-18-2008, 02:30 AM
Answer my questions please. This block is overbored to 82mm right? What bore are your PR30 pistons??

scttydb411
12-18-2008, 08:53 PM
stock can hold 185 i have 260cc in there a set of stock at the house and a set of 440cc in my back seat i think i am good got it tuned something aint right only 163whp 124wtq

dc 4-2-1 header
stock cat
short ram
stock intake manifold

might be the issue

BABY J
12-18-2008, 09:27 PM
Well he'll see more peak w/ the short ram and less TQ (vs a longtube) - but there are so many holes in this thread that I am getting tired of trying to help him.

i4_garage
12-18-2008, 11:59 PM
i think i have these cams in my itr...NA stage 2 stock idle lobe?
It hits vtec hard and idles like a stock car

scttydb411
12-19-2008, 12:54 AM
Well he'll see more peak w/ the short ram and less TQ (vs a longtube) - but there are so many holes in this thread that I am getting tired of trying to help him.

on the dyno, yes. close the hood on the road and iat go up killing power.