Ron Paul warns of secret plans to create international central bank

[Maniacc]

http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2008/281108Paul.htm

Texas Congressman Ron Paul has warned that international forces are planning the creation of a global central bank that will see a new fiat monetary system come to dominate the world economy.

The 2008 presidential candidate also warned that Barack Obama's administration will only represent a change in faces and not in policies.

Speaking about the recent G20 meeting Paul told Russia Today:

"I think something will come of it but you probably didn't hear about it yet. There was some pomp and ceremony that the public knew about, but behind the scenes they were talking about the future and what they are going to do to try to internationalize all regulations, going in the opposite direction of free market and more towards international regulations. I'm sure they even talked about an international central bank."

Paul also pointed out that global bankers have been holding their own talks on the same matter:

"At the same time the G20 was meeting, we also had the central banks meeting in Europe. Bernanke was over there, and they are doing the same type of planning, so real planning will not be out in the open, until they want us to know about it." the Congressman said.

"The system that we have today where the fiat dollar is a reserve currency of the world, it's losing that status and they have to replace it. Hopefully they'll have enough sense to realise that another international agreement along the Bretton Woods will be no more successful than the last one." Paul continued.

The Congressman argued that more regulations administered by central banks, rather than placed on to central banks, represents a dangerous move away from the free market.

"We could restructure by getting rid of all the central banks, then you would have honest money come up because nobody could commit fraud. Governments get away with committing fraud - that's what fiat money is." Paul commented.

The Congressman warned that an Obama presidency offers no alternative to the economic policies that have led the U.S. and the world to the brink of economic meltdown. Paul Described the kind of change Obama offers as:

"Just change in faces and change in party labels. Both parties represent the same special interests, they both have to represent big business. Obama's supposed to be a man of the people, well he collected $750 million, more money than anybody else ever collected. Wall Street supported him, the media supported him, all the big money supported him, so his change is not going to be much change at all. He's not talking about changing monetary policy, the Federal Reserve or getting rid of the income tax or bringing our troops home."

Paul also commented that he does not believe Obama will withdraw troops from Iraq and pointed out that he has never said he will close down the military bases throughout the country and eliminate the huge embassy in Baghdad.

"Policy will remain interventionist," the Congressman warned. "We will remain in the middle east and we will not be coming home, we'll stay in Korea, we'll stay in Europe, we'll be in eastern Europe, we'll be doing all these things. Even though Obama benefited tremendously from 'change', all we are changing is the face of our government."

Paul also warned that the stage has been set for fresh terrorist attacks in the U.S. as a consequence of a sustained interventionist foreign policy.

Watch the entire interview here - http://www.russiatoday.com/guests/video/1833

[nsany(atl)]

Believe it, that's why they crashed our economy with crappy loans. To crash the dollar so it is worth the same as all the other monies. Look for the Amero soon. It's also a way to control terrorist b/c they will have to use the global currency that will be electronically tacked by every govt.

[Maniacc]

Ron Paul to me is an interesting man of adjectives and theater, but I dunno what to really think about him. Maybe he's batshit crazy, maybe not, but I agree with his policies about your constiutional republic. Can a Govt. of people really orchestrate this kind of thing without riots in the streets?

I doubt it but who knows...

One things for sure, if this man does end up leading us to a revolution I'm getting the fuck out of North America. It's gonna be a fucking time bomb of suck. Then again maybe this is the end times, or just evolution. Who knows...
Either way, Ron Paul has me thinking he's either a whistleblower or the antichrist and it's trippy as fuck. If he is the antichrist then I'm sticking around for sure! I mean, think about it. Could he be? Ron Paul is gangsta then.

You ever seen that nikka's shoes? He keeps it real son.

On a serious note, I like Ron Paul and he talks a lot of sense, particularly on economics, but I think he gives the American public a lot more credit than they deserve. If these years of the Obama administration can be used to implement and test a moron-friendly web based political framework that is open and contemporary enough to keep everyday voting people interested, then a Ron Paul America could work - without that I think it would devolve into a horrible mess cause people have got so used to being herded around on everything, they're just too malleable.

[Maniacc]

Lemme add that ironically, if we are to actually make space travel and space colonization happen(a big goal for everyone around the world),the only way to afford it would be a one-world economy and everyone working towards the same goal. Space.

Or we can stay here are be separate and whine about the "evil Others" and "evil global bankers."

Either way I could give a fuck.

[PSINXS]

NWO? nah that doesnt exist

:rolleyes:

[Maniacc]

NWO? nah that doesnt exist

:rolleyes:
Wait, are you telling me that people still don't believe in a NWO?

No way, for real?

[SL65AMG]

NWO? nah that doesnt exist

:rolleyes:


sarcasm??


hopefully


just take a look around. dont make your decisions based on what you dont want to happen or what you dont think will happen. look at the facts, do your research and you will be suprised...


i know theres a lot of radical ass conservatives but some of them have a point

[Maniacc]

sarcasm??


hopefully


just take a look around. dont make your decisions based on what you dont want to happen or what you dont think will happen. look at the facts, do your research and you will be suprised...


i know theres a lot of radical ass conservatives but some of them have a point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

NWO - they will be successful.

[PSINXS]

callit what u want, some of this globalization tactics are just not right.

put world on one monetary system, true it brings about order. but look at it, its Global control. i'm just saying..... i won't get into it becuase nobody believes in it. i just know what i see and listen to what is said. Just like obamas acceptance speech in chicago, "we are working to worldwide peace and security." Things are starting to add up more and more.

Next attack? Religion. Say goodbye to it.

[PSINXS]

Lemme add that ironically, if we are to actually make space travel and space colonization happen(a big goal for everyone around the world),the only way to afford it would be a one-world economy and everyone working towards the same goal. Space.

Or we can stay here are be separate and whine about the "evil Others" and "evil global bankers."

Either way I could give a fuck.
Bingo. while space may not be the goal they r working toward, they are striving for not jsut a one world economy, but a one world everything. Okay i'm done. lets just watch and see what happens when this piss poor excuse of a person is inaugurated.

[PSINXS]

Lemme add that ironically, if we are to actually make space travel and space colonization happen(a big goal for everyone around the world),the only way to afford it would be a one-world economy and everyone working towards the same goal. Space.

Or we can stay here are be separate and whine about the "evil Others" and "evil global bankers."

Either way I could give a fuck.
Bingo. while space may not be the goal they r working toward, they are striving for not jsut a one world economy, but a one world everything. Okay i'm done. lets just watch and see what happens when this piss poor excuse of a person is inaugurated.

[Maniacc]

Dude trust me - I know exactly what you're talking about. :)

I too have a strong belief in the conspiracies floating around. But when you think about space and space travel that is a huge jump! If cults like the free masons or others were to reach it and have a base or way to live up there they could pretty much control out whole planet.

From what I've gathered is that those true 'higer ups' wish to evolve beyond us, normal human-beings.

And when you think about it all of our media, television, trends, school systems, and other forms of entertainment is holding us back from true knowledge. Why do you think the united states ranks lower than a lot of countries out there?

[Julio]

Repost..

[Elbow]

lol @ those saying and believing NWO

[Maniacc]

lol @ those saying and believing NWO
I find it retarded that you don't believe in a NWO when a previous president even said it himself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo). You're either blind/deaf or in denial.

[_Christian_]

I don't know why a lot of people think Ron Paul is crazy. IMO he's the only person in congress who isn't stupid or corrupt. Most Americans don't have a clue about anything that's going on. I hate living with a population that is so dumbed down.

[GTScoob]

Believe it, that's why they crashed our economy with crappy loans. To crash the dollar so it is worth the same as all the other monies. Look for the Amero soon. It's also a way to control terrorist b/c they will have to use the global currency that will be electronically tacked by every govt.
Who is they? Irresponsible lenders or irresponsible borrowers? Those are the two actors who caused this crisis. And any semblance of an Amero is decades away, look at the development of the European Union from the EEC and the European Steel and Coal Comission before that. It's taken 50 yrs to get to a common European currency. It would bring the dollar down even more if we combined it with the shitty Peso and other latin currencies, can you say hello inflation? A common currency with Canada would be great once they start drilling for oil, nothing holds a currency high than steady oil revenues.

We already freeze account transfers to banks with known terrorist ties, unless you're talking about GPS tracking chips in individual dollars there is no way you can track cash transfers.

First: Ron Paul is backwards ass retarded.

Second: There's been talk of implementing an imaginary currency since Bretton-Woods was first introduced post WWII. Hell, the EU had one for use in regional trade before they adopted the Euro. It's nothing new

Third: We are centuries away from adopting a universal currency. National currency is the most visible form of statehood and national pride. You see your political figures and symbols on currency and not many countries want to give that up. Plus there's too much money made daily on international currency exchanges. A universal currency will only be established after globalization engulfs all aspects of economies. We need universal norms of labor laws, environmental regulations, free trade agreements,etc before we can even think to have a global currency.

Now to address space travel. If it follows the course of every other technological innovation over the last century, it has already moved from the public sphere to the private sphere. All high tech developments from weaponry to communications were originated in the public realm by government projects but the private industry does it better and cheaper. You see government offering incentives for projects that it wants to accomplish, such as stealth aircraft but they do not do any R&D anymore. Only in nations like Iran, Russia, and China which are fueled by rampant nationalism and invidualism do you see a huge war industry a la the WWII era. We have better weapons than them because our private defense industry is the best in the world. There wont need to be a global currency, only a bunch of investors forming their own shuttles, space stations, planetary hotels, etc.

[Maniacc]

First of all - damn, bobby. I didn't know you were this smart. :D Lemme see if I can respond to some of your stuff.



Who is they? Irresponsible lenders or irresponsible borrowers? Those are the two actors who caused this crisis. And any semblance of an Amero is decades away, look at the development of the European Union from the EEC and the European Steel and Coal Comission before that. It's taken 50 yrs to get to a common European currency. It would bring the dollar down even more if we combined it with the shitty Peso and other latin currencies, can you say hello inflation? A common currency with Canada would be great once they start drilling for oil, nothing holds a currency high than steady oil revenues.

I think he was talking about cults such as the Free Masons when he said they.
And the top bankers who pretty much control our moneys' currency - one of them being the Rockefellers.

The Amero is also far from decades away - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98




First: Ron Paul is backwards ass retarded.

This is just an opinion, bobby. Please explain why you think he's a retard. He's actually pretty damn straight and on point with a lot of things that are going on with our country. He doesn't sugarcoat shit.

America isn't ready for a President like that though - a lot of Americans are in denial about the whole thing. They still think that the government is our friend and cares about the people and that the president is really here to help us.

We're being lied to. You're smart enough to see it...




Now to address space travel. If it follows the course of every other technological innovation over the last century, it has already moved from the public sphere to the private sphere. All high tech developments from weaponry to communications were originated in the public realm by government projects but the private industry does it better and cheaper. You see government offering incentives for projects that it wants to accomplish, such as stealth aircraft but they do not do any R&D anymore. Only in nations like Iran, Russia, and China which are fueled by rampant nationalism and invidualism do you see a huge war industry a la the WWII era. We have better weapons than them because our private defense industry is the best in the world. There wont need to be a global currency, only a bunch of investors forming their own shuttles, space stations, planetary hotels, etc.

Now this is something that I liked. You're right - when you said that everything that involves space exploration has been moved to a private sphere. There are things going on out there that we're not supposed to know about because it could cause panic in the streets.

I've seen videos that talked about a secret war - in space. Yes, with aliens. Sounds weird but if you think about it, it starts to make sense. I'm sure the government gained tons of technology from the crash in Roswell in 1947. One thing that every nation agrees on is that the next step into being the dominate country - because, once you're ahead of the game when it comes tp space travel you're pretty much in control of everything else. The true higer ups are decades ahead of us when it comes to technology. They knew about the iphone 10 years ago.

[PSINXS]

agreed on that.any "new" technology is not "new" at all. its new because it just got publicly released. iphone, ipod, were created years ago. the gov't gets first hold on anything new coming out. look at the internet, it was implemented by the army and gov't only before it was released to the public for use.

[Elbow]

I find it retarded that you don't believe in a NWO when a previous president even said it himself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo). You're either blind/deaf or in denial.

Oh god that proves a lot.

I'm sure you believed those were FEMA's coffins too right?

[Maniacc]

Oh god that proves a lot.

I'm sure you believed those were FEMA's coffins too right?
No point in trying to change your mind. Some people just refuse to see the truth.

But if you want you can try to prove me wrong. Go do some research and show me some hardcore facts that can disprove this NWO conspiracy.

[Elbow]

No point in trying to change your mind. Some people just refuse to see the truth.

But if you want you can try to prove me wrong. Go do some research and show me some hardcore facts that can disprove this NWO conspiracy.

I honestly don't care, and don't have time to prove you wrong. See the truth :lmfao: WTF. So you think the government will kill us all?

[Maniacc]

I honestly don't care, and don't have time to prove you wrong. See the truth :lmfao: WTF. So you think the government will kill us all?
OMG, are you being serious? Of course not kill us you fool.

But if you don't care enough to post back in here with facts then I guess it's a lost cause. You think this is just another whores lounge discussion - it's not. Save all those retarded smilies for another thread.

[Elbow]

Well a lot of "NWO" believers believe many different conspiracies, so tell me what you believe, really, I am interested, I don't jump sides of anything. Many NWO people who have told me what they think is NWO meaning kill a lot of citizens and all this bringing it into the whole FEMA discussions and all that BS.

So explain.

[Maniacc]

Well a lot of "NWO" believers believe many different conspiracies, so tell me what you believe, really, I am interested, I don't jump sides of anything. Many NWO people who have told me what they think is NWO meaning kill a lot of citizens and all this bringing it into the whole FEMA discussions and all that BS.

So explain.
Okay, this is what I believe in. The New World Order to me is a plan created by the higer ups to become rulers of this planet. In order to do this of course they will need to create nations. America is going to merge with Mexico and Canada - which will equal one nation. China, Japan, and the other nations will become another one - and so on...

Once this happens the money currency will improve but the value will decrease. Everyone eventually will be controlled by one government. Depopulation will also come in the near future - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu1nr5onBh0


U.S. using food crisis to boost bio-engineered crops.
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3731

Jeffrey Smith - The Health Dangers of Genetically Modified Food (Video)
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3732


Think about it. At the moment we are over populated and this is a problem. But the problem with NWO is that it is based on the Jews belief in the coming of Christ. The restructuring of the Sanhedrin council and admission of noachide law in to the US congress is just a scratch on the surface.

When you don't believe in God, they will behead you. Which is why this country pushes so hard on religion.

... blah, I have a lot more shit to type but I've run out of time. Work pwns me! But I will return and finish this up.

[GTScoob]

I've seen videos that talked about a secret war - in space. Yes, with aliens. Sounds weird but if you think about it, it starts to make sense. I'm sure the government gained tons of technology from the crash in Roswell in 1947. One thing that every nation agrees on is that the next step into being the dominate country - because, once you're ahead of the game when it comes tp space travel you're pretty much in control of everything else. The true higer ups are decades ahead of us when it comes to technology. They knew about the iphone 10 years ago.
I'm almost 100% sure that the government knows of extraterrestrials, I'm not sure whether to blame it on Roswell or intelligence collected through military satellites. Why else would the NSA charter say that it was formed primarily to intercept all electronic signals, earthbound or spacebound? Also, why would Ronald Reagan's plan for a strategic defense initiative, Star Wars missile defense program, have a secondary purpose for shooting down projectiles from the heavens? I dont know what to say regarding a secret war in space but space development is extremely costly and we're in no position to lead the world right now in a new planetary arms race. The space race ended because it was a financial drain on the economies of both America and Russia. There are economists that argue that the exacerbation of the military arms race and space race were root causes to the fall of the USSR.

While space travel would be great in terms of national prestige, I doubt it'll prove to increase anyone's international power advantage. Think to Christopher Columbus, when he discovered America, Spain had the premier navy in Europe. They gained a lot of power and wealth from discovering the new world but it was all wasted when England wiped out the spanish armada in 1588. Spain never recovered internationally from that incident, that was the height of its power in history and it will probably never reach that kind of power ever again. Want that to happen to America? Overexert ourselves to prove some kind of superiority only to have it collapse beneath us?

Regarding NWO theories, I dont buy them. The freemasons have lost all their political influence, its just a men's club now. Lots of presidents have been masons but its also a great organization for political networking. No doubt masons discuss politics like us regular people but they cannot control the government. I think this would be even more evident in modern times of transparency in governance. You're not going to find facts proving or disproving the existence of a NWO, its just a conspiracy THEORY.

If anything, the NWO is losing political power to multinational corporations and globalization. Governments are losing policy autonomy because of the increasing interconnectedness of the world.

As for Ron Paul, I try to like the guy, but everything he says, while relevent, just seems antiquated. He seems like he's lost touch with progress and wants to revert to a former era of politics and economics. And all politicians are corrupt once they are elected and decide to be a career politician. They begin to care more about their own job security than anything else (hard to blame them though).

[GTScoob]

Alex, correlation does not equal causation. If anything America has done what it can to separate church and state, much moreso than in Europe.

There's writings about a NWO and how it will come about, so people look to recent developments and see evidence that would be insignificant otherwise.

Your NWO theory does have a lot in common with Huntington's theory of the Clash of Civilizations regarding states uniting among common backgrounds, be it Christianity, Islam, Confucianism. I dont buy his theory either, in my opinion instead of fragmenting, rational cultures are assimilating through greater understanding and tolerance. Notice how I said RATIONAL, this excludes religious fundamentalists and zealots seeking extreme sociopolitical revolution.

[SPOOLIN]

every time i drive back north on interstate 65 through alabama into montgomery i see a building that always has a side painted up saying shit about the NWO, and "the UN, GET US OUT!"

lol ive noticed it consecutively for the past 10 or 15 years.

[gtrmonkey]

The way I look at is that everyone ecomecy went down, So everyone in same place they were before. It all still the same perportion it was back before this happen. World Goverments need to get together and decide they need to cut there losses, Start from a fresh start. If that happen then everyone would befiet. Granted some countries loss a good bit of money but in return they will be debt free.

[Maniacc]

Bobby, I'll respond to your post tomorrow when I get some free time since it'll probably be a decently long post. And will probably take me some good time to type.

[metalman]

Next attack? Religion. Say goodbye to it.

Good bye to freedom of religion...likely at some point in our future.
But religion overall? Not a chance in hell.
To believe that one would need to totally disregard and underestimate the power of the worlds most influential state government...and perhaps richest......the Vatican. ;)

Then of course you have those pesky Islamic extremists...who will die to the last man to preserve their own faith etc

But in terms of self promoting world political influence, manipulation, and control...it all pales in comparison to the Vatican. Period.

[SL65AMG]

anyone ever heard of the "Bilderberg Group".....

check it out.


i find it interesting that people automatically negate and disregard things that are said because of the fact that they think its an impossibility. just because something is radical or "too horrible to be true" doesnt mean its not a possibility just because its crazy doesnt mean it cant happen


everyone would like to think that our government is there to help us because its what a Majority of the people want. if someone says that the govt. could give a damn about them they refuse to believe it in denial, and continue to believe what the govt tells them..... its called a Sheep....

[Maniacc]

Alex, correlation does not equal causation. If anything America has done what it can to separate church and state, much moreso than in Europe.

What I mean was that this country is pretty much based on Christianity. The majority of republicans are Christians.

I don't know shit about Europe since I have no reason to - I live here and care about my future in this country. From what I've noticed this country is a religious country - who's government uses to draw more supporters in. Much like gravity. Once they say something that makes sense(to you) then you're pretty much hooked - like a fish to bait.



I'm almost 100% sure that the government knows of extraterrestrials, I'm not sure whether to blame it on Roswell or intelligence collected through military satellites. Why else would the NSA charter say that it was formed primarily to intercept all electronic signals, earthbound or spacebound? Also, why would Ronald Reagan's plan for a strategic defense initiative, Star Wars missile defense program, have a secondary purpose for shooting down projectiles from the heavens? I dont know what to say regarding a secret war in space but space development is extremely costly and we're in no position to lead the world right now in a new planetary arms race. The space race ended because it was a financial drain on the economies of both America and Russia. There are economists that argue that the exacerbation of the military arms race and space race were root causes to the fall of the USSR.

Ever heard of a guy named Phil Schneider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuuztmqFQrQ)? Not sure whether to believe him or not but he does have a pretty interesting background that could make him a reputable source when it comes to UFOs and Roswell.

If you're bored enough one day watch all of his 7 video clips and make your own conclusion about him.

As for the part where you said that Star wars missiles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uD757B15jo&feature=related This is an interesting video. You seem to be pretty well educated in this subject so there isn't any point in us getting into something that we both clearly agree on.



While space travel would be great in terms of national prestige, I doubt it'll prove to increase anyone's international power advantage. Think to Christopher Columbus, when he discovered America, Spain had the premier navy in Europe. They gained a lot of power and wealth from discovering the new world but it was all wasted when England wiped out the spanish armada in 1588. Spain never recovered internationally from that incident, that was the height of its power in history and it will probably never reach that kind of power ever again. Want that to happen to America? Overexert ourselves to prove some kind of superiority only to have it collapse beneath us?

There's a big difference from discovering America and discovering a planet that could support certain people to live on.

A planet where they could meet and plan their next move. I mean, who would stop them if they're up in space? No one! When you're in an environment like that you pretty much hold the lives of the people still on earth in your hands. Lets say they have a nuclear missle on their base. They could blast us all to hell if they wanted to. Who would stop them?



Regarding NWO theories, I dont buy them. The freemasons have lost all their political influence, its just a men's club now. Lots of presidents have been masons but its also a great organization for political networking. No doubt masons discuss politics like us regular people but they cannot control the government. I think this would be even more evident in modern times of transparency in governance. You're not going to find facts proving or disproving the existence of a NWO, its just a conspiracy THEORY.

http://freemasonrywatch.org/lucistrust.html

The Freemasons aren't the only secret cults that are out there.

Rothschild and Other Red Things
The relationship between the Rothschilds and Khazar Zionism. http://www.tribwatch.com/redshield.htm

http://i36.tinypic.com/sv2teg.jpg

Pawns in the Game
His underlying belief is that a Luciferian conspiracy was first. In 1770 the money lenders (who had recently organized the House of Rothschild).

Have you seen these hand signs, hand shakes been down by our presidents, certain news guys, in movies, ect?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2pybajo.jpg

The NWO theory is like you said, a theory. But it's far from a theory when you look at things the right way and look at the signs out there. Check this out - "Smart kids will benefit from the accelerated courses and not be left behind, and dumb kids will be forced to get smarter and not be left behind... No Child Left Behind Act of 2001"

Marinate on that for a min.

I have other shit but let's not make this into something else...


If anything, the NWO is losing political power to multinational corporations and globalization. Governments are losing policy autonomy because of the increasing interconnectedness of the world.

The New World Order is nothing but a plan set by certain people. The NWO isn't really a threat because their are people out there far more powerful then the planers of a NWO. There's going to be some crazy shit happening in the next four years.

Maybe all those old prophecies will be revealed to us real soon.



As for Ron Paul, I try to like the guy, but everything he says, while relevent, just seems antiquated. He seems like he's lost touch with progress and wants to revert to a former era of politics and economics. And all politicians are corrupt once they are elected and decide to be a career politician. They begin to care more about their own job security than anything else (hard to blame them though).

I've posted what I think about that old man on the first page.

Also, sorry it took me long to post this whole bullshit post. I don't even know why I wasted my time LOL.

[§treet_§peed]

lol just wait til the Amero hits us....

[Danny]

I know this thread is a bit dated. But you have to at least acknowledge that the NWO exists to a noticeable and possibly influential extent. The fact that the words "He favors our undertakings, New World Order" is written on our currency has got to at least perk the interest of firmest believer's of the world being as it seems.

Now the ties between the illumanti, masons, CFR, bilderberg, presidents, media and the families can all be made and proven to a certain extent. But that opens up a whole nother can of worms.

[SL65AMG]

there is really only one thing that matters:

You can believe whatever you want, you have the freedom to have an opinion, you also have the freedom to acknowledge or deny whatever you want. But you can only deny or acknowledge something till it hits you in the face, which is reality.

So speak/believe what you want people, the truth will be revealed eventually.

[SPOOLIN]

I know this thread is a bit dated. But you have to at least acknowledge that the NWO exists to a noticeable and possibly influential extent. The fact that the words "He favors our undertakings, New World Order" is written on our currency has got to at least perk the interest of firmest believer's of the world being as it seems.

Now the ties between the illumanti, masons, CFR, bilderberg, presidents, media and the families can all be made and proven to a certain extent. But that opens up a whole nother can of worms.

its actually translated more to "announcing the new world order" in some ways, but in other translations it speaks nothing of the such. Grain of SALT.

[Danny]

its actually translated more to "announcing the new world order" in some ways, but in other translations it speaks nothing of the such. Grain of SALT.


Ya the "new world order" translation does have holes in it. Another translation for Annuit Coeptis is "providence favors our undertakings". "He" and "providence" being the same being (God).

Norvus Ordo Seclorum directly translated is "new order of the ages". Seems like it has manipulated in to new 'world' order.

Digging through this crap is like walking through quick sand and cow crap, I always get stuck.

What about presidents and big wigs speaking of the nwo. The CFRs plans to one world government, etc? Any thoughts on that?

[40th GT]

thread resurrection.

I don't have anything to contribute but I read every post in this thread and was immersed in it. Anyone else have any input?

[PSINXS]

Ya the "new world order" translation does have holes in it. Another translation for Annuit Coeptis is "providence favors our undertakings". "He" and "providence" being the same being (God).

Norvus Ordo Seclorum directly translated is "new order of the ages". Seems like it has manipulated in to new 'world' order.

Digging through this crap is like walking through quick sand and cow crap, I always get stuck.

What about presidents and big wigs speaking of the nwo. The CFRs plans to one world government, etc? Any thoughts on that?

new order of the secular world is wat norvus ordo seclorum means.