obesity

[Buttons]

anyways this was a good thread until certain people came into it

it would have stayed a good thread if no one bashed me.

i was just putting my :2cents: in and get fucking bashed. no wonder there aren't any girls here. people like you scare them off.


now go fuck some cracked out whore and try to slit your wrists. :goodjob:


again.

[Buttons]

like i said choke on a dick..

so you are getting personal and banning evan?

awesome. :goodjob: again.

btw, don't say anything on the internet unless you are ready for it to backfire on you.

[§treet_§peed]

lol maybe i will like i said i didn't mean it shit i was fucking off. look its 2 in the morning. ease up its just some bull shit to say. nothing meant by it no harm. chill jeeze its just the internet...wow im sure your a nice person and thats fine. my bad, there is that better?

[§treet_§peed]

it wasn't a perma ban just like a few hours.

[§treet_§peed]

i don't know what the fuck his deal is anyways. whoopty fucking doo. he started bashing on me in another thread over nothing. he wants to play we will play..

[Buttons]

right.

[Buttons]

bashing me is different. i'm a dead horse. it's only fun the first few times to beat me. after that, it's pathetic.

[turbodawg]

it would have stayed a good thread if no one bashed me.

i was just putting my :2cents: in and get fucking bashed. no wonder there aren't any girls here. people like you scare them off.


now go fuck some cracked out whore and try to slit your wrists. :goodjob:


again.

I agree


it wasn't a perma ban just like a few hours.

Ass

[redrumracer]

lol maybe i will like i said i didn't mean it shit i was fucking off. look its 2 in the morning. ease up its just some bull shit to say. nothing meant by it no harm. chill jeeze its just the internet...wow im sure your a nice person and thats fine. my bad, there is that better?
are you seriously that much of a bitch that you would ban someone under a SM's sn just because you had a disagreement? I mean that really is a bitch move.

[§treet_§peed]

and i said my bad woman

[§treet_§peed]

fine fine i lift it damn i was just having a little fun with him where talking on aim right now

[redrumracer]

i don't know what the fuck his deal is anyways. whoopty fucking doo. he started bashing on me in another thread over nothing. he wants to play we will play..
NO YOU BANNING HIM UNDER SOMEONE ELSES ACCT IS JUST LIKE HAVING AN AE DOUCHE. ITS NOT PLAYING ALONG WHEN YOU GET SAND IN YOUR PUSSY AND DECIDE TO BAN SOMEONE.

[Buttons]

okay.

[turbodawg]

§treet_§peed,

When you resort to low ball, lame ass tactics...you lose!

It's a sorta self admission of defeat.

Congratulations, sir

[§treet_§peed]

o wow im scared i was fucking with him.

[§treet_§peed]

lol damn. it didn't hurt no one or kill anyone.

[redrumracer]

o wow im scared i was fucking with him.
why are you scared? this is the internet.

[§treet_§peed]

why are you scared? this is the internet.im not thats why i was saying it didn't hurt anyone. im kool with everyone one here except for like 2 or 3 people and him being one of them. thats fine with me, but damn i haven't done anything bad to anyone. hell look i even said sorry to autumn so jeeze im such a bad guy huh

[redrumracer]

lol damn. it didn't hurt no one or kill anyone.
no you didnt but your not an sm for a reason. so dont play one

[redrumracer]

im not thats why i was saying it didn't hurt anyone. im kool with everyone one here except for like 2 or 3 people and him being one of them. thats fine with me, but damn i haven't done anything bad to anyone. hell look i even said sorry to autumn so jeeze im such a bad guy huh
honestly after pulling a bitch move like ya did, yea.

[§treet_§peed]

no you didnt but your not an sm for a reason. so dont play oneneither is my friend. he doesn't even get on here anymore. plus you know as well as i do that people always fuck with people. hell brett used to take my rep away ban me for a hour then let me back and all sorts of shit. its not hurting or gonna kill them

[redrumracer]

neither is my friend. he doesn't even get on here anymore. plus you know as well as i do that people always fuck with people. hell brett used to take my rep away ban me for a hour then let me back and all sorts of shit. its not hurting or gonna kill them
yea but are you brett? are you a sm? hell are you even a mod? no, so thats not your place. what they do is there rightful business not yours

[turbodawg]

neither is my friend. he doesn't even get on here anymore. plus you know as well as i do that people always fuck with people. hell brett used to take my rep away ban me for a hour then let me back and all sorts of shit. its not hurting or gonna kill them

perhaps not, but there is a certain douche bag quality to it...and that is the point. But I think this thread is officially dead.

So ladies, shall we move on? :goodjob:

[Catnip]

Please don't compare your bitch ass to Brett's bitch ass. (ILY brett, no homo, lol)

[§treet_§peed]

lol how am i comparing myself to brett? i said that everyone fucks with everyone. its the truth. thats the way IA is

[turbodawg]

or at least get back to fat people bashing...

[§treet_§peed]

thats what im saying

[redrumracer]

lol how am i comparing myself to brett? i said that everyone fucks with everyone. its the truth. thats the way IA is
how

hell brett used to take my rep away ban me for a hour then let me back and all sorts of shit. its not hurting or gonna kill them
does it really need to be explained?

[§treet_§peed]

yeah i said brett. but he is not the only one to do it to me or anyone else. it happens all the time. no one is being hurt or has been hurt

[redrumracer]

yeah i said brett. but he is not the only one to do it to me or anyone else. it happens all the time. no one is being hurt or has been hurt
normally unless your sammich the mods tend not to pick on you unless your not really liked then your an easy pleaser to the rest of ia

[redrumracer]

or banana boat guy

[§treet_§peed]

not always. anyways its all fun and games. how do you know i am the one that done it just cause i said i was? lol

[turbodawg]

^^^WOW!!

[turbodawg]

I must admit, I am impressed

[Halfwit]

Best thread evar casey.

It's sickening. I just laugh at it now, when I'm at the store buying healthy food and I see some obese bitch buying the ENTIRE FUCKING LITTLE DEBBIE AND TYSON CHICKEN LINEUP I want to fucking puke.

Losing weight isn't that hard unless you are lazy as fuck. Eat right and get on a damn treadmill once in a while.
fucking yes. they act like they cant stop eating little debbies, or if they do 4 pushups a day they "deserve" to eat watever they want.

[Got Milk?]

x2. I'm 6'2" at 135lbs.


You must be joking.

[Halfwit]

You must be joking.
lol

[speedminded]

I was 6'-4" 225 before playing indoor soccer then lost 15lbs the first month with one game a week and no practices. Months later of playing i'm still at the same weight. I don't like the sluggish feeling when you put on extra weight so I can't imagine what it's like to be overweight, I'm sure it's a snowball effect that easily worsens if you try to ignore it or have health issues.

The most disturbing thing is nearly every morning I see overweight women eating in their car on the way to work. Honestly, do they really need that sausage biscuit from Mcdonalds? Overweight leads to stress, stress leads to eating, eating more than you burn off leads to being more overweight. It doesn't fix itself. Put the cigarette down and eat some fruit.

Last week I was at Club Opera, normally packed with gorgeous fun women, this time 50 to 75% of the women there were grossly overweight. Not sweating dancing their ass off at least making an attempt at bettering themselves but most were just standing around depressed. I was so disturbed I almost made a thread about it. I love to watch people, especially watching guys fail miserably at their efforts, but the last thing I want is a fat chick staring me down in a club. Disturbing.

Wasn't there a club that restricted overweight people from attending? I'm down. It would be a GREAT incentive for overweight people to look and feel better and be able to get in, a goal to work towards. Having a clipboard at the door to sign and that instantly makes it a private club which should mean anyone can be legally turned away for any reason. Am I an ass for this? Sure, I'll agree with that.

[Halfwit]

thats why i hate like thye think its a disease. nothing but fat laziness makes them eat like whales.

[Buttons]

You must be joking.


he's not. i met him.

[Buttons]

I was 6'-4" 225 before playing indoor soccer then lost 15lbs the first month with one game a week and no practices.

Back in seventh grade, I weighed 135 at 5'5. I played two whole seasons of soccer coed, and lost 33lbs.

[speedminded]

Back in seventh grade, I weighed 135 at 5'5. I played two whole seasons of soccer coed, and lost 33lbs.I believe it! It's one of the most active sports you can do, tried baseball and I was falling asleep playing shortstop and third base *snores*

[Buttons]

I believe it! It's one of the most active sports you can do, tried baseball and I was falling asleep playing shortstop and third base *snores*

I know. I played midfield. I think I read somewhere during an active game, a midfielder runs around 5 miles. then practice everyday ... shit was exhausting the first few weeks. I was out of shape. by mid-season, i could outrun all the boys. it was a coed team, but i was the only girl.


i say if you are out of shape or weigh more than average people, start playing soccer. you lose weight doing that.

[tony]

I'm 5'8.. started out at 175lbs then got up to like 225lbs at one point and time but it was a good mix of muscle and fat. I ate and lifted like a football player would. It wasn't until I decided to join the Air Force did I attempt to lose weight and I'm around 194 now.. with 14lbs left to go.

I totally agree on the extreme obesity thing. To let yourself go a little bit I can understand but I see women well over 220lbs shorter than me who see no problem with their condition. Personally I feel like healthcare wouldn't even be that big of a deal here in the U.S if obesity wasnt so bad.

[§treet_§peed]

l.o.l.

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[stillaneon]

I'm fat and admit it.

But there are numerous factors that play into it. I eat one meal a day usually. Not even all that big or unhealthy. I usually try to walk around the neighborhood at least 2-3 times a week (havent because I have been spending time working on the new house). Genetics do play a big part, but I am not motivated enough to spend every waking minute exercising.

The problem is, people starve themselves and work out all the time because they get so hurt when someone calls them fat. Then they feel like they are better than someone else because they spent every waking minute trying to lose weight.

Same with social aspects. Someone may have all the money in the world but look at social interactions. Whats more important? Having the cash and no one to share/ do things with, or having a little cash but having quality friends around to spend the time with? Bought friends are not real friends.

I don't add up to casey at all. He has his own house at 20, and a really good job.

But for what I have been through I think I am doing ok

[OneSlow5pt0]

i have nothing against fat people,thing i have is since im skinny people think something is wrong with me,people think im on drugs and shit,lol....well my style and music prolly doesnt help but o,well

[Halfwit]

I'm fat and admit it.

But there are numerous factors that play into it. I eat one meal a day usually. Not even all that big or unhealthy. I usually try to walk around the neighborhood at least 2-3 times a week (havent because I have been spending time working on the new house). Genetics do play a big part, but I am not motivated enough to spend every waking minute exercising.

The problem is, people starve themselves and work out all the time because they get so hurt when someone calls them fat. Then they feel like they are better than someone else because they spent every waking minute trying to lose weight.


and its not that great of a job. its a normal job for my age. nothing special. i dont make that much, but its not how much money u make, its how much money u save.

Same with social aspects. Someone may have all the money in the world but look at social interactions. Whats more important? Having the cash and no one to share/ do things with, or having a little cash but having quality friends around to spend the time with? Bought friends are not real friends.

I don't add up to casey at all. He has his own house at 20, and a really good job.

But for what I have been through I think I am doing ok
its all about how you want ot live. i didnt say that since i lsot weight, that im all of a sudden better than everyone. i jsut know it can be done, so i dont want to hear fat people say "i tried to lose weight and i cant" thats bullshit.

yeah i dont socialize much, but how old are you donny?

id rather have great friends and good social life when im 23-25, hell i cant even go out now and drink with friends, so why waste the money?

id rather go ahead and do the hard shit in life, then enjoy life later on. and if i die before then, o well.
and jsut because we all know what you have been through, doesnt mean you know what i have been through :goodjob:

its an old chinese way of living. they spend there entire lifes working hard and living like shit so that they may rest and relax in there old years. im not that drastic, but live by it to an extent.

feel me?

[SlowsterCivy]

Fat guys make me wanna puke. (No offense to anyone that might be "fat") Just not my deal. :)

[G.C]

Lol obesity is ONLY accepted among i.a members. Which the majority are fat. But i have no problem with fat people, most of them are funny.

[speedminded]

I'm fat and admit it.

But there are numerous factors that play into it. I eat one meal a day usually. Not even all that big or unhealthy. I usually try to walk around the neighborhood at least 2-3 times a week (havent because I have been spending time working on the new house). Genetics do play a big part, but I am not motivated enough to spend every waking minute exercising.

The problem is, people starve themselves and work out all the time because they get so hurt when someone calls them fat. Then they feel like they are better than someone else because they spent every waking minute trying to lose weight.

Same with social aspects. Someone may have all the money in the world but look at social interactions. Whats more important? Having the cash and no one to share/ do things with, or having a little cash but having quality friends around to spend the time with? Bought friends are not real friends.

I don't add up to casey at all. He has his own house at 20, and a really good job.

But for what I have been through I think I am doing okYou just admitted you eat one meal a day. No food equals no metabolism which means lack of energy, can't remain healthy, and can't lose weight.

Unless you were born with a metabolic disease then the only thing that may be hereditary is how many calories you burn while you sleep, or basal metabolic rate, which you can change by exercising and eating at the right times.

Eating 5 small snacks a day is far healthier than one meal.

[§treet_§peed]

eh i hate those fat bitches that clam its baby fat.....

[SlowsterCivy]

I'm a firm believer that *EVERYONE* should exercise. PERIOD.

[GIXXERDK]

I like to eat, im sorry :(

[Kyle]

I'm fat and admit it.

But there are numerous factors that play into it. I eat one meal a day usually. Not even all that big or unhealthy. I usually try to walk around the neighborhood at least 2-3 times a week (havent because I have been spending time working on the new house). Genetics do play a big part, but I am not motivated enough to spend every waking minute exercising.

The problem is, people starve themselves and work out all the time because they get so hurt when someone calls them fat. Then they feel like they are better than someone else because they spent every waking minute trying to lose weight.

Same with social aspects. Someone may have all the money in the world but look at social interactions. Whats more important? Having the cash and no one to share/ do things with, or having a little cash but having quality friends around to spend the time with? Bought friends are not real friends.

I don't add up to casey at all. He has his own house at 20, and a really good job.

But for what I have been through I think I am doing ok
1 meal a day? thats messing with your metabolism badly.

I don't know if thats an attempt to lose weight or you just aren't hungry, but starving yourself is a bad way to lose weight.

Just to add for anyone trying to lose weight, the most general advice is eat a moderate sized breakfast, drink plenty of water, get plenty of sleep, and look at food labels, etc. etc.

[§treet_§peed]

starving does not and will not work... the only way is to keep eating at least 5 or more healthy PROPORTIONED meals a day

[Jason..]

Halfwit is IA's Richard Simmons!

[redrumracer]

another post

[Kyle]

starving does not and will not work... the only way is to keep eating at least 5 or more healthy PROPORTIONED meals a day
what do you know tubby. :???:

[AlliRae]

i guess after actually reading 16 effing pages of shinanagins i might put in my two cents about skinny people...

I have been 5'5" at 103-110 for 9 years... no lie in that. My weight moves around though. 7 years ago when i was in wrestling i was fit. Some abs, toned arms... not muscle woman by any means. Stopped working out lost muscle... gained fat.. stayed the same weight. Now, without a job, my weight is starting to surround my stomach... sadly, and will be leaving shortly. I'm not fat, but I can tell.

I eat... all the time. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, and very much in between. i have a very high metabolism. I can't eat extra lean meals or dietary ish because they don't provide enough nutrients, fats, or carbs for my metabolism. Being skinny is great, but where what fat you have is the problem. Eating something in the morning, working out for 20 min starts your metabolism and is one of the most effective ways to add to your workout/lose weight plan.

[AlliRae]

... and why the fuck does everyone change the thread when autumn posts? tell me that... you claim she's an attention whore... but you do nothing about it. Seems to me, if you have annoyances with her... not saying i do... you would ignore her instead.

Again... just another input

[Kyle]

i guess after actually reading 16 effing pages of shinanagins i might put in my two cents about skinny people...

I have been 5'5" at 103-110 for 9 years... no lie in that. My weight moves around though. 7 years ago when i was in wrestling i was fit. Some abs, toned arms... not muscle woman by any means. Stopped working out lost muscle... gained fat.. stayed the same weight. Now, without a job, my weight is starting to surround my stomach... sadly, and will be leaving shortly. I'm not fat, but I can tell.

I eat... all the time. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, and very much in between. i have a very high metabolism. I can't eat extra lean meals or dietary ish because they don't provide enough nutrients, fats, or carbs for my metabolism. Being skinny is great, but where what fat you have is the problem. Eating something in the morning, working out for 20 min starts your metabolism and is one of the most effective ways to add to your workout/lose weight plan.
Thank you for the personal update as well as everyone in here that felt the need to describe their weight situation.

[AlliRae]

Thank you for the personal update as well as everyone in here that felt the need to describe their weight situation.


it's a ginger thing... you wouldn't understand :eek: :D

[Halfwit]

starving does not and will not work... the only way is to keep eating at least 5 or more healthy PROPORTIONED meals a day
wrong. i was anorexic for a small amount of time, you mean its not healthy. but it does work.

[§treet_§peed]

what do you know tubby. :???: lol im not fat im 6' and i weigh around 174-176 with a bf% of 12.3 lol

[Halfwit]

i guess after actually reading 16 effing pages of shinanagins i might put in my two cents about skinny people...

I have been 5'5" at 103-110 for 9 years... no lie in that. My weight moves around though. 7 years ago when i was in wrestling i was fit. Some abs, toned arms... not muscle woman by any means. Stopped working out lost muscle... gained fat.. stayed the same weight. Now, without a job, my weight is starting to surround my stomach... sadly, and will be leaving shortly. I'm not fat, but I can tell.

I eat... all the time. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, and very much in between. i have a very high metabolism. I can't eat extra lean meals or dietary ish because they don't provide enough nutrients, fats, or carbs for my metabolism. Being skinny is great, but where what fat you have is the problem. Eating something in the morning, working out for 20 min starts your metabolism and is one of the most effective ways to add to your workout/lose weight plan.YOUR TELLING ME. you could eat all the time and be the exact same. i eat a meal, throw it up, and still gain weight!! LOL

[§treet_§peed]

dude if i eat a freaking oatmeal pie my ass jiggles

[Halfwit]

that happens when your a tub of lard.

[§treet_§peed]

that happens when your a tub of lard. how am i a tub of lard when a medium shirt is baggy on me? lol

[Halfwit]

whatever you believe, is the truth to you.

[§treet_§peed]

alright if you say so Troll

[Halfwit]

rather be a troll, then a chubby tubby.

[AlliRae]

alright if you say so Troll


i thought this was about weight not furry feet? :thinking:

[Halfwit]

i thought this was about weight not furry feet? :thinking:
what you tryin to say bout my feet homegirl?

[Kyle]

lol im not fat im 6' and i weigh around 174-176 with a bf% of 12.3 lol
why did you lol thats not funny at all. you will go to hell for that tubby.

it's a ginger thing... you wouldn't understand :eek: :D
oh my mistake I had forgot you were quote unquote a ginger rat. :yes:


that happens when your a tub of lard.
lololol

[Halfwit]

ginger rat alert!!!!!

[AlliRae]

what you tryin to say bout my feet homegirl?


he called you a troll... my first thought is furry feet... which would be a pretty random insult since we are talking about weight.

[Halfwit]

he called you a troll... my first thought is furry feet... which would be a pretty random insult since we are talking about weight.
thought you might be jockin my foot game.

[§treet_§peed]

lol wtf kyle get off casey's nuts lol.. anyways im a fatty let me tell you ;)

[Halfwit]

lol wtf kyle get off casey's nuts lol.. anyways im a fatty let me tell you ;)
hater. hes not on my nuts, he has mutual ideas and hatred.
and reverse psychology doesnt work in fat threads.

[§treet_§peed]

i wouldn't know if casey had furry feet lol but others who i will not name might :ninja:

[§treet_§peed]

lol do you run at all casey? like jog or anything?

[Halfwit]

i wouldn't know if casey had furry feet lol but others who i will not name might :ninja:
were not turning this thread into that kinda thread, so dont even bother.

[Halfwit]

lol do you run at all casey? like jog or anything?
yeah. it actually takes alot for me to stay how i am now.

[§treet_§peed]

i like going on 2 mile runs. i try to everyday. eh up hills best. i tel you what else helps keep you skinny, smoking crack

[Kyle]

lol wtf kyle get off casey's nuts lol.. anyways im a fatty let me tell you ;)
Did you ever think it had something to do with you, not people riding each others nuts? Think of that eh?

[BKgen®]

lol homos.

[§treet_§peed]

Did you ever think it had something to do with you, not people riding each others nuts? Think of that eh?im just wondering how you got im fat? is it because im taller than you too? cause if im not mistaken your a troll too. lol

[Halfwit]

i like going on 2 mile runs. i try to everyday. eh up hills best. i tel you what else helps keep you skinny, smoking crack
crack is not good financial decision. fuck health, i jsut cant afford another habit.

[Halfwit]

im just wondering how you got im fat? is it because im taller than you too? cause if im not mistaken your a troll too. lol
sheeeeit. wanna put money on it?

[§treet_§peed]

o and are we butt hurt kyle?

[§treet_§peed]

like i said i dunno im not that tall myself. but im not fat either lol

[Halfwit]

like i said i dunno im not that tall myself. but im not fat either lol
and like i said "whatever you believe, is the truth to you".

[§treet_§peed]

being fat is determined by your Body Fat Percentage not just your weight say 200 pounds and 5'9".. hell im trying to get up to 180 but i don't think it will happen cause the more i eat the more weight i start dropping

[Halfwit]

about what?

okay lets play a game.

raise your hand if you have a timeless douche shirtless myspace profile picture?

~looks around~

yeah thats you streetspeed. put your shirt on, no ones impressed.
:eek: :D :crazy: :lmfao: :goodjob:

[§treet_§peed]

about what?

okay lets play a game.

raise your hand if you have a timeless douche shirtless myspace profile picture?

~looks around~

yeah thats you streetspeed. put your shirt on, no ones impressed.ok im shirtless.. wow im crying now... lol

[§treet_§peed]

did i saw i was trying to impress anyone? nope lol

[Halfwit]

lol defending yourself = butthurt..

[§treet_§peed]

nah i don't care if he thinks im fat lol. thats kool. i find it sorta weird a guy is checking me out like that tho..:gay:

[Halfwit]

nah i don't care if he thinks im fat lol. thats kool. i find it sorta weird a guy is checking me out like that tho..:gay:
i wasa waitin for you to catch that.

[§treet_§peed]

you would know if he was a little funny tho, you and him are good buddies lol

[Halfwit]

you would know if he was a little funny tho, you and him are good buddies lol
jealous much?

[§treet_§peed]

of all the gay buttsecks......


















































Just a little....:(

[§treet_§peed]

aww i think i hurt your feelings. yeah im white trash, if thats what you want to believe think that;).. thats fine. sorry momma and daddy don't support me...

[Halfwit]

back on topic.

[§treet_§peed]

FUCK FATTIES!!!

[Halfwit]

remember, water is natures energy drink!

[EJ25RUN]

i hate that it is becoming acceptable to be big. people that used to be considered fat, are now being considered ordinary.

having a gut is now the new thing.

people that are healthy are called "skinny" and its almost to the point where "skinny" people are made fun of.

its sickening.

fuck fat people. stop being lazy as fuck and do some crunches you lazy fucking bastards.
This is true. I remember what people use to consider anorexic. Now some of the prettiest girls i know can be called anorexic for having naturally small bodies.

[Halfwit]

This is true. I remember what people use to consider anorexic. Now some of the prettiest girls i know can be called anorexic for having naturally small bodies.
and my father showed me pictures of when he was in hte military, and he had to do extra excersizing each day cause they considered him overweight...but hte picture was to me, a regular person. not even a gut.
now what that used to be, is anorexic.