Hey Im new and working on a rear engine crx

[rwdcrxproj]

Lets see where to begin umm just started. The idea is a tube chassis, roll cage, alum. floors, fab. up the rear of the crx mount a H22 h2b and make it look as street legal as possible
i will post pics soon IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN
open for any suggestion
Thanks

[bigdare23]

There goes another crx wasted....

[Frög]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/hanzelsolos/Heeeeyyyyy.jpg

[Barefoot]

There goes another crx wasted....i was kinda thinking that just didnt want to say. since u said it for me i dont have to worry.

[rwdcrxproj]

There goes another crx wasted....
sorry you think that way but at least im staying with a honda motor
and its not really wasted just modified

[EJ25RUN]

There goes another crx wasted....

Why is it a waste?

The people competing in the SCCA GT4 class have been doing it for over a decade.

Are these cars a waste? The can lap a race track faster than a 911 so i feel that it is a pretty big achievement.

Are you going for a race setup or a street setup?

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0508_sccp_01_z+gt_4_racecars+parked.jpg

[rwdcrxproj]

Why is it a waste?

The people competing in the SCCA GT4 class have been doing it for over a decade.

Are these cars a waste? The can lap a race track faster than a 911 so i feel that it is a pretty big achievement.

Are you going for a race setup or a street setup?

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0508_sccp_01_z+gt_4_racecars+parked.jpg

mainly for drag but i still want to drive it on the street
Its going to be hard thought

[EJ25RUN]

mainly for drag but i still want to drive it on the street
Its going to be hard thought
Drag? Um, that i do think it a bit of an off setup. Mahdavi's midengined V6 CRX was rather slow for all the money they threw at it.

Mid engined cars belong on a road course. You'd probably have more success if you try that instead.

[bigdare23]

sorry you think that way but at least im staying with a honda motor
and its not really wasted just modified


Until you realizes it's a waste money or you fucked up doing something wrong and the chassis can't be repaired properly. I don't wish any bad luck but alot of projects like these don't get finished. Good luck to ya.

[Sport1.3]

im in the process of building a Front engined FWD MR2!!!! its gonna be SIIIIIIIICK!

[bigdare23]

Why is it a waste?

The people competing in the SCCA GT4 class have been doing it for over a decade.

Are these cars a waste? The can lap a race track faster than a 911 so i feel that it is a pretty big achievement.

Are you going for a race setup or a street setup?



Yep, they are still a waste in my opinion! I love CRXs and I'm a purest. So when you chop one up to make it something that it's not suppose to be, I view it as destroying it. Mint CRXs are becoming harder and harder to find (with 88's becoming even more difficult to find) because ricers, wreaks, and rust. His year was the best out of all of the 2nd generation, and now there's one less decent one left. Plus, CRXs do not need to be rear wheel drive to perform. Cool it lap a track faster than a 911, I'm pretty sure Hasports one can too. Anyways, I doubt we'll see eye to eye on this topic since I'm a CRX enthusiast.

[EJ25RUN]

Yep, they are still a waste in my opinion! I love CRXs and I'm a purest. So when you chop one up to make it something that it's not suppose to be, I view it as destroying it. Mint CRXs are becoming harder and harder to find (with 88's becoming even more difficult to find) because ricers, wreaks, and rust. His year was the best out of all of the 2nd generation, and now there's one less decent one left. Plus, CRXs do not need to be rear wheel drive to perform. Cool it lap a track faster than a 911, I'm pretty sure Hasports one can too. Anyways, I doubt we'll see eye to eye on this topic since I'm a CRX enthusiast.

I can respect that. Maybe 4 years ago i'd have seen eye2eye with you since i did understand the JDM thing before it got...old. Anyways, i guess as you are a CRX purest, i am a motorsport purest which is why i remember looking at these crx creations with an odd look until i saw them go around a race track. To be honest, most of these have turned into almost Nascar like creations so calling them crxs is a stretch but the good news for you is that most of these are built out of AT generation CRXs.

[bigdare23]

I can respect that. Maybe 4 years ago i'd have seen eye2eye with you since i did understand the JDM thing before it got...old. Anyways, i guess as you are a CRX purest, i am a motorsport purest which is why i remember looking at these crx creations with an odd look until i saw them go around a race track. To be honest, most of these have turned into almost Nascar like creations so calling them crxs is a stretch but the good news for you is that most of these are built out of AT generation CRXs.


:cheers:

[Motivation]

When you say "IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN", what do you mean? Have you started the fab work, or do you just have an idea?

[Elbow]

If it turns out good, sweet. It's not ruining a CRX, they are just Hondas lol.

[J13eck]

they are just Hondas lol.

:lmfao:

[Thighs]

If it turns out good, sweet. It's not ruining a CRX, they are just Hondas lol.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

true but miatas are :gay:

[redrumracer]

like i told the person that wanted to put a honda motor into a ford, DO IT i personally would like to see what it can do. hell im all for a rwd or as some would say mid engine.

[Elbow]

^What...does....that...mean???

"hell im all for a rwd or as some would say mid engine."

[redrumracer]

^What...does....that...mean???

"hell im all for a rwd or as some would say mid engine."
lol what it means is that i like rwd and am all for it


but


in this instant its not just rwd its a mid engine drive

i failed at explaining i know

[Elbow]

What exactly is a MID engine DRIVE? lol.

[Sir_Christopher]

ill race you when you get it done! :] and i wanna see some pictures. i think its cool someone is thinking outside of the box.

[EJ25RUN]

lol what it means is that i like rwd and am all for it


but


in this instant its not just rwd its a mid engine drive

i failed at explaining i know
It is still rwd no matter where the engine is. I think you're over complicating it.

[Thighs]

^^ what he said. if the rear wheels have the power, its RWD.

[rwdcrxproj]

Drag? Um, that i do think it a bit of an off setup. Mahdavi's midengined V6 CRX was rather slow for all the money they threw at it.

Mid engined cars belong on a road course. You'd probably have more success if you try that instead.

well the way im looking at it is in most cases a stock h22 powered crx is usually somewhere in the 13s or 12s with traction problems maybe and i am planning on h2b too
so my crx is mid eng. rwd So less traction problems because your intire car weight is at the rear tires
now a modified car that will prob. weight 750lbs or a little more should run a much better time due to power to weight ratios
i will prob. have to put weights in the front to keep it down thought
and yes the fab work has already started the car weights about 400lbs right now
no windows,hatch,or doors and some cutting already
but thanks for the advice and if the drag does not work i will keep road course in mind

[VickNotic]

well damm, i remember seeing a integra with a RWD H22 also.. but CRX w/h22 & H2B also.. thats gonna be monster! and it would surprise alot of folks, to put the hood up and everyone would expect to see a motor, but it'll prolly only show spare tires, tool box and all.. hahaa sweet! i wanna see this RHINO

[Thighs]

theres no fucking way it will weigh 750lbs when finished. theres no way it weighs 400 right now unless you had ALL the bodywork off and the entire floorpan cut out., along with having the motor dropped and ALL the suspension out. they weigh a little over 2000 stock. it will probably end up being close to 1700 when done.

how built is this motor gonna be? its gonna need around 450-500hp to get the wheels up, and some BIG drag slicks.

im not tryin to shoot down your dreams and i definitely think its gonna be a cool car if its done right, but some of the info you posted is impossible. this car will end up being better suited for road courses/autocross/gymkhana. in fact, there was a CRX with a mr2 engine in the back that was built by Backyard Special, and it was a BADASS 'khana car.

[uproot]

i wanna see this RHINO


http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/wp-content/uploads/endang015.jpg



you're welcome.

[rwdcrxproj]

theres no fucking way it will weigh 750lbs when finished. theres no way it weighs 400 right now unless you had ALL the bodywork off and the entire floorpan cut out., along with having the motor dropped and ALL the suspension out. they weigh a little over 2000 stock. it will probably end up being close to 1700 when done.

how built is this motor gonna be? its gonna need around 450-500hp to get the wheels up, and some BIG drag slicks.

im not tryin to shoot down your dreams and i definitely think its gonna be a cool car if its done right, but some of the info you posted is impossible. this car will end up being better suited for road courses/autocross/gymkhana. in fact, there was a CRX with a mr2 engine in the back that was built by Backyard Special, and it was a BADASS 'khana car.
the floor pans are out from front to back there is no motor dash or body panel and it takes me and my bro inlaw to pick up the car one in front one in back Rolling chassis
and if you dont believe it im sorry and i will make sure i show a pic of us doing that
tube chassis alum. floor pans lexan windows fiberglass doors frontend and hatch i can see 750 OR A LITTLE MORE
cause alot will not be there when im done
It IS still a rolling chassis but it does have alot cut already




And i can not figure out how to post pics HELP please

[LIKEG6]

sounds cool

G/L with it

[rwdcrxproj]

ill race you when you get it done! :] and i wanna see some pictures. i think its cool someone is thinking outside of the box.
thats fine i love to race for shits and giggles

[87 Turbo II]

Someone doesn't know what they're talking about....... Hayabusa racing motor cycles weight 450 pounds. You really expect anything remotely car shaped to get to 750? Hell the wheels and tires can be anywhere from 60 to 180pounds depnding on what you're running.

I have to ask, how old are you?

Lastly, posting pics is NOT that hard, I don't know why so many people can't figure it out. Here is a guide.

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=800743

[rwdcrxproj]

Someone doesn't know what they're talking about....... Hayabusa racing motor cycles weight 450 pounds. You really expect anything remotely car shaped to get to 750? Hell the wheels and tires can be anywhere from 60 to 180pounds depnding on what you're running.

I have to ask, how old are you?

Lastly, posting pics is NOT that hard, I don't know why so many people can't figure it out. Here is a guide.

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=800743
look im 23 since when does age have anything to do with cars and i have been working on honda/fords for about 6 years
and what part can you not read OR A LITTLE MORE
not sayin exactly that much just sayin some where in the ball park due to the use of alot of alum. parts on the car and in the motor removing steel parts replacing with alum. etc. and so on so think about it there isnt going to be much there but if you like it better 750 to (1000)lbs <-a little more

[87 Turbo II]

Your claims just sound like mine did when I was 14. I'mthinkin if you're lucky, you can get it to 1200 but it'll probably end up being 1,400 will full aluminum, magnesium, fiberglass, and carbon fiber components.

[Elbow]

LMFAO AT YOUR WEIGHT ESTIMATE I thought you might be cool at first.

EDIT: Is it just a tube chassis weighing 400lbs right now? I can believe that.

[rwdcrxproj]

Your claims just sound like mine did when I was 14. I'mthinkin if you're lucky, you can get it to 1200 but it'll probably end up being 1,400 will full aluminum, magnesium, fiberglass, and carbon fiber components.
im not sayin anyones wrong and im not sayin im right i just have a guess yall could be right im not tryin to argue thought i just like to get other peoples opinions and i am always open for suggestions thats why i posted this

[notalentef]

look i know this guy and it is going to be a beast and it will be a light ass car since hf and si's weighed only around like 1800 to start with. and just so you dont asked i'm 20 and i've been working on cars for about 5 years now. plus im sure if someone can make a dodge demon weigh 1800 pounds with a running big block 440 he can make this car around 800.

[chinitoxamor]

im in the process of building a Front engined FWD MR2!!!! its gonna be SIIIIIIIICK!

are u being sarcastic?? :lmfao:

[JDM TYTE]

Hey guys, I put a 2jz in my civic.


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[EJ25RUN]

are u being sarcastic?? :lmfao:

It has been done before on another car.

[green91]

Defend yourself by posting pics, not by e-battling. The fact is your weight estimation is probably not realistic, and 99% of the people in the world dont have the ability to properly do this job.

[Elbow]

look i know this guy and it is going to be a beast and it will be a light ass car since hf and si's weighed only around like 1800 to start with. and just so you dont asked i'm 20 and i've been working on cars for about 5 years now. plus im sure if someone can make a dodge demon weigh 1800 pounds with a running big block 440 he can make this car around 800.

Where the HELL are you all getting your numbers at???????? :???:

[EJ25RUN]

Defend yourself by posting pics, not by e-battling. The fact is your weight estimation is probably not realistic, and 99% of the people in the world dont have the ability to properly do this job.

I think that is the only way you'll have something to prove. Otherwise it is all talk.

I still don't see why you making a mid engined drag car.

[Elbow]

Yeah this being for drag makes NO sense. Look at all the front engine FWD CRX drag cars, it's not like you are the first to thing of this and then everyone will change, there is a reason they are that way lol.

[rwdcrxproj]

I think that is the only way you'll have something to prove. Otherwise it is all talk.

I still don't see why you making a mid engined drag car.
i will post pics as soon as poss.
and i see what your sayin but the reason i started this project as a drag is because everyone has done the fwd crx h22 but some (JUST SOME not sayin all) usually have bad traction problems and thats why im doing a mid engine i know a friend of mine does
but like i said i will post pics asap

[rwdcrxproj]

Yeah this being for drag makes NO sense. Look at all the front engine FWD CRX drag cars, it's not like you are the first to thing of this and then everyone will change, there is a reason they are that way lol.
and everyone doin front wheel drive drag cars is why i did a mid engine
i know im not the first but hardly anyone has done it so i want to its unique

[green91]

What stage are you at with the project? A pile of parts, or have you already starting to mod the chassis?

[rwdcrxproj]

What stage are you at with the project? A pile of parts, or have you already starting to mod the chassis?
the very beginning no body panels floor pans glass and some cutting i promise i will post pics as soon as i can

[EJ25RUN]

and everyone doin front wheel drive drag cars is why i did a mid engine
i know im not the first but hardly anyone has done it so i want to its unique

Remember the NSX that was converted to being front engined for drag racing?
I know it became a tube car but still.

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/9555516/p58640_large+Acura_NSX_Dragcar+Side_View_Driver.jp g

See the transmission tunnel?
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/9555534/p58652_large+Mazda_RX7_Dragcar+Interior.jpg

[rwdcrxproj]

i like that car

[EJ25RUN]

i like that car
But do you get the point?

[2.25teg]

I haven't seen that before but if you serious find you some front frame rails and front suspension an cut out the back weld em up bolt it up gona be a lot of custom work but it can be done with a moderate budget an a Lot of time

[81911SC]

Yep, they are still a waste in my opinion! I love CRXs and I'm a purest. So when you chop one up to make it something that it's not suppose to be, I view it as destroying it. Mint CRXs are becoming harder and harder to find (with 88's becoming even more difficult to find) because ricers, wreaks, and rust. His year was the best out of all of the 2nd generation, and now there's one less decent one left. Plus, CRXs do not need to be rear wheel drive to perform. Cool it lap a track faster than a 911, I'm pretty sure Hasports one can too. Anyways, I doubt we'll see eye to eye on this topic since I'm a CRX enthusiast.Kinda the same when I see a 13b in a 911. :gay:

[2.25teg]

dont be stupid put you a fuel cell up front not the stock tank it'll help keep the tires down

[rwdcrxproj]

Lets see where to begin umm just started. The idea is a tube chassis, roll cage, alum. floors, fab. up the rear of the crx mount a H22 h2b and make it look as street legal as possible
i will post pics soon IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN
open for any suggestion
Thanks
FINALLY GOT THE PICS NOT PRETTY BOTH THERE PICS

[BTLFED]

OMFG what a waste of a CRX! Your weight claims are bogus, your project will NEVER be finished, and we will all laugh at you. Hell, we are all laughing at you now. ------------>

[Thighs]

well at least you arent bullshitting lol. it looks good though. i think you probably cut a little more out of the floor than you needed to. considering youre only gonna use the back half of the car, i would have kept the front half of the floor intact to make seating etc. easier. if it was my project, id cut the rear portion out and weld the front half of the accord/prelude/whatever in its place, similar to the SHO conversions people do in festivas.

as far as having an aluminum chassis, thats not the best idea. aluminum its WAY softer than steel, so its more likely to flex hard as opposed to steel. at least make everything surrounding the driver out of steel.

and about your weight expectations... it MIGHT weigh close to 500 as it sits, but with a cage, motor/drivetrain, and all the other stuff youre gonna need, its more than likely to end up around 1500. think about it, ~500 for the motor/trans/etc, ~400 for the cage, ~250 for the floorpans/interior bits, ~100 for the fuel cell, lines, etc, ~22 for driver and seat, and ~150 for other random stuff that im too full of turkey to think about... its gonna end up close to 1500 if youre lucky.

[Elbow]

Yeah I believe the 500lbs right now. I think when DONE, you will be about 1500lbs like Thighs said.

[RhdDc2]

Regardless of the use of it and the weight. It looks liek a fun project. Im looking foward to watching this come together, best of luck!

[rwdcrxproj]

OMFG what a waste of a CRX! Your weight claims are bogus, your project will NEVER be finished, and we will all laugh at you. Hell, we are all laughing at you now. ------------>
i hope you watch the build as it comes together so i can rub it in your face when its done thanks for your opinion even if it is bad but thats why i posted this car:2up:

BUT as for everyone else i will post as it comes along:ninja: thanks for the suggestions

[DVSRX-7]

ok i just saw the pics.. and go with something other than a Honda motor.. maybe a sr20 or rb20 or something other than a honda motor.. it will make it that much more better if u put a non-honda motor in it.. just my opinion... keep us posted and i have faith in u.. jus put in the time man...

[Thighs]

^^ thats another good idea. at least use a k20. i mean, if youre going for weight you might wanna use a lighter motor than a h22...

if it was me id say fuck weight and put in a FWD northstar caddy v8... :goodjob:

[Elbow]

Don't put a RB or an SR...wtf??? LOL. Def. use a K series if you can, or a B series. H series are the bulky engines.

[green91]

Man I wouldnt have cut that much of the floor pan out without welding in temporary braces in on the chassis

[rwdcrxproj]

Man I wouldnt have cut that much of the floor pan out without welding in temporary braces in on the chassis
I didnt cut out the center support just for that reason
i will def not use a nissian motor or whatever
STRICKLY HONDA sorry love my honda

[ranger250x]

definately an interesting project. Good luck with it and have fun with it. I've seen pics of a 350 chevy powered crx but that would be pretty simple to do if all the resources were there.

[EJ25RUN]

You're gonna need to reinforce the hell out of this. Im thinking stitch welding strenght.

[jfman]

look on hondatech theres a guy with an h22 powered rwd prelude(or is it an integra?) you will learn a lot from him.

[rwdcrxproj]

look on hondatech theres a guy with an h22 powered rwd prelude(or is it an integra?) you will learn a lot from him.
yeah i have seen it

[Thighs]

yeah, as some have said an h22 is a HEAVY ass motor. i think for the money, a b16 or b18 would be a better motor. it might be a little more costly but its gonna save you ALOT of weight. but then again, if its gonna be a drag car, weight isnt ALWAYS bad...

any more progress

[rwdcrxproj]

yeah, as some have said an h22 is a HEAVY ass motor. i think for the money, a b16 or b18 would be a better motor. it might be a little more costly but its gonna save you ALOT of weight. but then again, if its gonna be a drag car, weight isnt ALWAYS bad...

any more progress
yeah but i am just going to stick with the h22 because i cant think of how to run the linkage for the b series cause i was going to do a h2b swap but that run into a problem
and the h series has cables that i can extend or just run to the tranny and still shift the same

[BTLFED]

i hope you watch the build as it comes together so i can rub it in your face when its done thanks for your opinion even if it is bad but thats why i posted this car:2up:

BUT as for everyone else i will post as it comes along:ninja: thanks for the suggestions

Watch what? Another failed attempt at making a rear engined CRX that's fast, ruining another CRX in the process? You have no idea what you are talking about. I look forward to laughing at you in the future.

BTW Mr. Billy Bad Ass: When I bought my CRX you were 10 so don't try and go toe to toe with me boy. ------------------------->

[Juggernaut]

vvvvv That is one car that will never see a public road again.

[Thighs]

theres not a b series cable tranny?

[green91]

theres not a b series cable tranny?

Sure there is

[Juggernaut]

I didnt cut out the center support just for that reason
i will def not use a nissian motor or whatever
STRICKLY HONDA sorry love my hondaYour kind of love hurts.

[Thighs]

i thought there was one... im not a big honda guy but im pretty sure ive seen something on here about them.

[green91]

90-93 Integras even in the US were cable b-series, in addition to the SiR and XSI japanese transmissions

[rwdcrxproj]

Watch what? Another failed attempt at making a rear engined CRX that's fast, ruining another CRX in the process? You have no idea what you are talking about. I look forward to laughing at you in the future.

BTW Mr. Billy Bad Ass: When I bought my CRX you were 10 so don't try and go toe to toe with me boy. ------------------------->
hey fuck off i dont give a flyin flip of how old you were or what you seem to think any more so just crash someone elses post :2up:

[BTLFED]

hey fuck off i dont give a flyin flip of how old you were or what you seem to think any more so just crash someone elses post :2up:

No I'd rather piss off a fag with no common sense such as yourself. So what happens if magically you actually get this thing together? You will MAYBE, just MAYBE have a 12-13 second car that will get smoked by most FWD Hondas with decent horsepower. Then what? You have effectively ruined a CRX, put thousands and thousands of dollars into a "design" (and I use the term loosely) that has failed, and you will never be able to sell it to anyone because no one wants a heap of shit like you are trying to build. Congratulations moron. :slap:

[b13isme]

ur an ass

[BTLFED]

ur an ass

I'm sorry, was that babbling directed at me? :slap:

[87 Turbo II]

I'm sorry, was that babbling directed at me? :slap:
You're not allowed to talk. He officially labeled you as an ass. lol

[green91]

Im starting on a rear engine hatch soon.

[BTLFED]

You're not allowed to talk. He officially labeled you as an ass. lol

Oh noes! A n00b calling me an ass! :lmfao:

~facepalm~

[FasTech]

Goodluck with it man.

[WHT_EP3]

dude you must now complete this now, even if your life depended on it. Just cause of all the call outs. I personally think you got a little crazy with the plasma cutter but, hey im not the one building so GOODLUCK TO YOU you'll need it.

[Dwisforme05]

damn this thread went down hill fast.

[b13isme]

I'm sorry, was that babbling directed at me? :slap:


Im sorry ill be sure to specify next time whom Im taking to
maby you should get a life and get off this website BTLFED

:jerkit: is all you do
sorry for ruining your thread dustin....

[BTLFED]

Im sorry ill be sure to specify next time whom Im taking to
maby you should get a life and get off this website BTLFED

:jerkit: is all you do
sorry for ruining your thread dustin....

Oh so you are just his boyfriend defending your man. I see now. Sorry I was the voice of FUCKING REALITY. Get off my nuts, faggot. ---------------->

[Motivation]

damn this thread went down hill fast.

off topic: You ever get all the lights blackened out? I know you were gonna do the fog lights too. Just wasn't sure if you have yet or not.

[VooDooXII]

I'd have done a mid-engined Del Sol.

[BTLFED]

I'd have done a mid-engined Del Sol.

That's been done by Top Secret years ago.

[VooDooXII]

That's been done by Top Secret years ago.

Yea I've seen that...I just like the idea. Del Sols look mid engined, heh.

[BTLFED]

Yea I've seen that...I just like the idea. Del Sols look mid engined, heh.

It would make more sense than ruining a damn CRX to do it.

(And I don't give a shit that in other parts of the world the Del Sol was called a CRX Del Sol)

[nreggie454]

At the very very very least, I would say that this project doesn't seem to be planned out very well. Seems like you got the idea, and then started cutting without any thought about it.