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NzProjeKt
03-21-2005, 04:35 PM
I like 50 Cent and all... but its looking like his hatin ass has gotten him into some trouble this time around... So for all those 50 cent dick riders who had said that he could and would destroy Nas, Jada, ect.. FAWK YOU and go download 50 Cent getting ripped by Jada.
D-BLOCK HOE !..... (I just thought i should help get the music forum get going!)

Julio
03-21-2005, 04:39 PM
hahaha I cant wait to hear NAS bust lyrics on his ass.

quickdodge®
03-21-2005, 04:41 PM
NAS will lyrically whip 50. Later, QD.

Julio
03-21-2005, 04:42 PM
I thought JADA's song was called Checkmate?

NzProjeKt
03-21-2005, 04:42 PM
Hell Yeah.... Im just waiting for Nas to bust another Ether.. LoL :cool:

Jada- Checkmate, Be Eazy
Fat Joe- Massacre of 50, Fuck 50, Victim

Kevykev
03-21-2005, 04:43 PM
i heard the Jada Kiss one...he was own3d bigtime.

"How you da king a New York, you live in Conneticut!"

Tasuki_Civic
03-21-2005, 04:46 PM
lol hahahaha yea i thought i was the only one who wasnt feelin fidy like that. i need to hear these songs. i know its gonna be funny as all hell.

Julio
03-21-2005, 04:47 PM
you know whats sad though...

While all these rappers are bashing on 50 ... 50 is racking record sales, sucks to say it. But is all a plan.

Julio
03-21-2005, 04:48 PM
FYI tasuki civic, your signature is rice :p

Tasuki_Civic
03-21-2005, 04:49 PM
tis true......i bet all the those mix cd's are off tha meat rack........and the people who are selling them is getting alot of money too.

NzProjeKt
03-21-2005, 04:55 PM
Yup. Regardless of all the bullshit, 50 is definetly stacking up...
Matter of fact I found his CD to be quite decent.. which was a shock at first cause the 2 singles that he put out were wack...

quickdodge®
03-21-2005, 04:57 PM
Never have liked fiddy, but he's rich. Ill give him props to whatever he's doing. Later, QD.

Tasuki_Civic
03-21-2005, 05:18 PM
FYI tasuki civic, your signature is rice :p

como? soy rica? sabo.

Julio
03-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Jadakiss " I'm an Animal" shit is fire... 50 owned! big time

Tuan
03-21-2005, 05:57 PM
sorry but fat joe come back was trash

Kevykev
03-21-2005, 06:07 PM
you know whats sad though...

While all these rappers are bashing on 50 ... 50 is racking record sales, sucks to say it. But is all a plan.

that's why i RIPPPPP CD's...

none of my dough contributed to those "lammaghini Does on his ES-CO-LADE!!!"

THEONE
03-21-2005, 06:40 PM
i dont care for 50cent,and i dont understand why hes so popular.i see him in videos and i cant tell if his mouth is moving, hes boring and his music puts me to sleep...that is all

quickdodge®
03-21-2005, 08:21 PM
^^^ AAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I always thought the same thing. From the first time I saw his video, Wanksta, I was wondering how the hell he was rapping. Thought he may be a ventriliquist. Later, QD.

FrnkPwrs
03-22-2005, 07:22 AM
50 is just being hood commericalized. Most of the people in the hood dont buy CDs, they buy bootlegs. There are so many artist that are so much more harder than 50, lived the life so muhc harder, but talk about other shit. I think eminem has talent, true, but Aftermath/Shady Records is really about "controversial" artist. 50 has lyrics, yea, but he is not a classic rapper. Get RIch wasnt a classic album. You put in a Nas Album, press play, walk away and listen tot he whole thing. Put in a Mobb Deep album, I literally press play in my car and only hit rewind, but never fast foward. Hood shit. 50 is here for the moment, and is just clever marketting. I give Jada respect, way before this beef shit, becuase Jada has always been hood. Man said he is happy of his album going platinum as a bootleg. Man is in mixtapes nonstop. All credit to 50/GUnit, they do their thing in the mixtape circut, but what you hear on a mixtape isnt what you are going to hear on an album. Like I said, the man is commercial

carrascopa
03-22-2005, 08:43 AM
gay gay gay! NAs and Jada both suck! theycan kiss my ass! and yo.. eminem, 50 and the rest of the Dr Dre crew aint talking no more shit to nobody! they are stacking heir cheese yall..

U saw what Dres crew did to murder inc.. now you tell me that eminem would not destroy any of those bitch ass rappers yall mentioned! Im an enormous fan of rap and Eminem can out battle anyone! So its not that 50 cant win it, its that he just dont give a fuck.. he is chillin in his new 65,000 sq ft mansion!

Tasuki_Civic
03-22-2005, 10:13 AM
hahahaha...........cheese they do stack but i dunno about E rippin tha mic on all of them

B16a2 Civic
03-22-2005, 10:22 AM
none the less, 50 pockets gets fatter while jada and fat joe are strugglin to sell a million, maybe 2...yeah...lyrically NaS is better...but if worse comes to worse...50 has so many soilders and friends ready to battle....banks, buck ( hope not) and yayo ( dont care what ya'll say, kid is ill) and afew others...but truth is, 50 is livin nice now

Big Rick
03-22-2005, 06:55 PM
they ALL living nice, who gives a fuck, can they ALL rap, hell no, 50 has just a few songs where he actually seem like he got skills. like frank said, 50 is all commercial.

Most people who buy the shit don't even know what the fuck he spitin about in his lyrics. they just like the "beats"

verash
03-22-2005, 07:04 PM
como? soy rica? sabo.
bueno para usted

FrnkPwrs
03-22-2005, 08:19 PM
none the less, 50 pockets gets fatter while jada and fat joe are strugglin to sell a million, maybe 2...yeah...lyrically NaS is better...but if worse comes to worse...50 has so many soilders and friends ready to battle....banks, buck ( hope not) and yayo ( dont care what ya'll say, kid is ill) and afew others...but truth is, 50 is livin nice now

Its not all about selling records though! Brittney spears sells records. Nelly sells records. Hanson sold records. How does selling records translate into skill? It translates into something thats easy to market. Are any of us eating off of 50s millioins? What 50 eats doesnt make me shit. The most an album from anyone can do it give us entertainment, and a 50 cent album, mainstream or mixtape, has never given me as much satisfaction as listening to a Nas, Lox, Jada, Styles P, Sheek, or Fat Joe album. 50 can say "Well, I sell this!" all day long. So? I bet there are parts of the world he isnt known and WIlliam Hung is. All that talking shit doesnt give you more skill.

quickdodge®
03-22-2005, 10:34 PM
i dunno about E rippin tha mic on all of them

I'm in agreement with you. Later, QD.

LS2ner
03-23-2005, 03:14 AM
Not to sound all bandwagonish or whatever but Em would murder jada. Between him and NAS is would be good but they are 2 different styles. Tho i personally have my money on Em. Look what he did to Benzino :/

quickdodge®
03-23-2005, 04:07 AM
Yeah, but come on, it was Benzino. Later, QD.

FrnkPwrs
03-23-2005, 06:54 AM
Not to sound all bandwagonish or whatever but Em would murder jada. Between him and NAS is would be good but they are 2 different styles. Tho i personally have my money on Em. Look what he did to Benzino :/

Styles are way too different. You know what, Ill give you that, Em would probally eat up Jada freestyling, because em is a battle rapper more than anything. But I think Jada shows his talent more than eminem. The eminem you get on CDs sold in stores and the eminem that you get on mix cds and as a cameo on other artists shit is entirely different. Youve got eminem pop and eminem hip hop

speedracer41
03-23-2005, 06:56 AM
50 did back off of The Game, I don't know if it was because of the whole G-Unit thing but that beef was stupid. Even though you are one of my boys, i'm gonna talk shit about you because you are friends with jada. Thats stupid

cttdid666
03-23-2005, 10:50 AM
50 is a bitch i dont think he can rap worth shyt. Em and Dre are the ones who brouhght his ass to the rap world from what i know of

carrascopa
03-23-2005, 11:13 AM
50 is a bitch i dont think he can rap worth shyt. Em and Dre are the ones who brouhght his ass to the rap world from what i know of

call him a bitch to his face..

Jaimecbr900
03-23-2005, 12:11 PM
I'm getting old and senile. Can someone give me the cliff notes on what all the rivalry between these people is? I understand the commercialism part of it and how it helps sell records, but I just wanna know how and why it all got started.

I'm one of those "beat" listeners mostly, so I don't know anything about some of the lyrics these guys are throwing at each other.

I've just always been curious.

Hell, I just finally figured out what the ole Tupac vs Biggie thing was about. Yeah, I'm a little behind. ;)

quickdodge®
03-23-2005, 02:20 PM
Ja Rule vs. Fiddy:

50 called out Ja for being a fake and wimp, calling him gay, soft and everything a rapper doesn’t wanna see in print next to their name. Ja dedicated a whole album to fighting back (Blood in My Eye)…. To bad it stiffed. 50 did the same and it went multi-platinum. Ja took aim via a slew of mixtape disses. However, 50 and his entire G-Unit crew did the same, and the sheer different in numbers made G-G-G-Unit the winners with tracks likje “Hail Mary,” and a slew of freestyles. Plus, it’s hard to fight back about being a fake gangsta when your singing love songs with Mariah Carey.


Later, QD.

quickdodge®
03-23-2005, 02:22 PM
50 did back off of The Game,


Wrong answer, homie. It has already been found out that the "apology" was a fake. Fifty did an interview on an LA radio station still talking shit about Gayme. Later, QD.

B16a2 Civic
03-23-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm getting old and senile. Can someone give me the cliff notes on what all the rivalry between these people is? I understand the commercialism part of it and how it helps sell records, but I just wanna know how and why it all got started.

I'm one of those "beat" listeners mostly, so I don't know anything about some of the lyrics these guys are throwing at each other.

I've just always been curious.

Hell, I just finally figured out what the ole Tupac vs Biggie thing was about. Yeah, I'm a little behind. ;)


50 doesn't like fat joe and jadakiss cause both of em did a song with ja rule...so 50 seen it that they were pickin sides on the matter...50 said somethin like...they helpin him sell records, so they showin who they down with...so thats he doesn't like him..

The NaS thing is a lil shaky to me...i only know NaS said somethin " we dont like no fake shit, we dont want that fake music, we dont want that 50 cent bullshit"...i dun kno why he said it and i dun kno what 50 did to him to make him say that

Another beef tho that wasn't talked about was 50 vs r kelly....he said somethin about r kelly at hot 97 summer jam ( big ny thing, if you from there you kno how big it is)...he was talkin about r kelly cause the song he did with ja rule and ashanti....and he said that if you down with 50, you'll leave with 50....so they said when 50 left thye stage, more then half teh people at summer jam left too

FrnkPwrs
03-23-2005, 06:04 PM
50 is a bitch i dont think he can rap worth shyt. Em and Dre are the ones who brouhght his ass to the rap world from what i know of

Jam master jay was working with 50 way before eminem and dre. 50 used to get shitted on in the industry who made it for his participation in "How to Rob". That why I was surprised to hear he was cool with Jay Z. But back then he wasnt really nice. The only thing that stands out in my head is Gun Runner, and that was the Kool Kirk version, not the version on power of a dollar

MitsuEvo6
03-23-2005, 06:15 PM
i heard someone call 50 the biggest ventrolaquist they ever seen... I think he's overstepped his boundries. But he has money..and i don't so mad props to him.

And for the record....Nas would be eatting m&ms in a battle.

gtikid
03-23-2005, 07:08 PM
fat joe is gay

Jaimecbr900
03-23-2005, 10:06 PM
Thanks QD and Black Si for the cliff notes. I always wondered what the beef was.

speedracer41
03-24-2005, 06:10 AM
I didn't know the apology was a fake, thats kinda funny. Funny like little kim getting busted for lying in court. - Whos got beef in the dirty south? just wondering.

MitsuEvo6
03-24-2005, 12:47 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TI and Luda both want to be the King of the Dirty Dirty..

TI and Lil Flip...

thata all i can think of right now.

B16a2 Civic
03-24-2005, 12:55 PM
I didn't know the apology was a fake, thats kinda funny. Funny like little kim getting busted for lying in court. - Whos got beef in the dirty south? just wondering.


actually...tha t.i and luda thing was all fake....people thought t.i was dissin luda on stomp ( young buck feat t.i..luda...*other versions include game*)...but it was somethin friendly...it was reported they was beefin but they not...the t.i and lil flip thing is old now tho....but they still dissin each other....they said lil jon dont like usher now b/c he's not givin him any credit for the beat on "Yeah"...doubt thats real.....

oh and on a side note...they say Ciara is really a man...i dun kno i met her last year during birthdayy bash...she was cute as hell and down to earth ( this was before goodies blew up)...but they said she admitted it on oprah and on certain radio stations that she was born a transvestite...i haven't looked too much into that one tho

MitsuEvo6
03-24-2005, 01:15 PM
actually...tha t.i and luda thing was all fake....people thought t.i was dissin luda on stomp ( young buck feat t.i..luda...*other versions include game*)...but it was somethin friendly...it was reported they was beefin but they not...the t.i and lil flip thing is old now tho....but they still dissin each other....they said lil jon dont like usher now b/c he's not givin him any credit for the beat on "Yeah"...doubt thats real.....

oh and on a side note...they say Ciara is really a man...i dun kno i met her last year during birthdayy bash...she was cute as hell and down to earth ( this was before goodies blew up)...but they said she admitted it on oprah and on certain radio stations that she was born a transvestite...i haven't looked too much into that one tho


Ya..i know bout the TI Luda..but just thought i'd toss that out there. And Lil Flip TI is old yes..but still funny when you think that Flip didn't even come out on stage..haha.

The Ciara thing..all lies. All lies.

B16a2 Civic
03-24-2005, 01:20 PM
Lol...yah lil flip as a leprachaun....iono...ciara aint go no chest mayne...and each tim ei look at her...i think that maybe...just maybe...but i certainly hope she's all women

dre3g
03-24-2005, 04:56 PM
first off those who say 50 cant really rap don't know what they are talking about and don't know rap either do some research there is about 3 million (record sales) people that say 50 can rap and does have nice lyrics and not even a million are buying fat joe, jada, etc. (combine them and they don't even reach 50) nas definetly deserves credit can't say nothing about him!!

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 05:32 PM
^^^ You seem to know a lot, yourself. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 05:40 PM
Ok, here goes:


tha t.i and luda thing was all fake....

Correct.


.the t.i and lil flip thing is old now tho....but they still dissin each other...

Correct, again.


they said lil jon dont like usher now b/c he's not givin him any credit for the beat on "Yeah"...doubt thats real.....

That IS the truth, but they are talking now about patching that up.


they say Ciara is really a man..but they said she admitted it on oprah and on certain radio stations that she was born a transvestite...

No. That was rumor that she admitted being a man(or used to be) on Oprah. That never took place. It was all just spread around and got caught on different websites and you know how the Internet works. Lolol.

Besides, you can't be born a transvestite. If you are refering to having both anatomies, that would be hermaphrodite.

The Gayme/50cent beef is still going. 50 is trying to take credit for writing everything that Gayme did.

JT the Bigga Figga is beefing with Gayme because JT was the first to get him in the game and him and Gayme had a deal and Gayme broke it and won't compensate.

Word on the street is that years ago, Benzino(of Source Magazine and State Property fame) had 50's mother killed several years back and that's where that beef comes from. This supposedly happened well before 50 was making "music."

That's all I can remember right now. Later, QD.

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:07 PM
first off those who say 50 cant really rap don't know what they are talking about and don't know rap either do some research there is about 3 million (record sales) people that say 50 can rap and does have nice lyrics and not even a million are buying fat joe, jada, etc. (combine them and they don't even reach 50) nas definetly deserves credit can't say nothing about him!!

CANDY SHOP............WTF is this? rap? read this without the beat and tell me what u think.

Verse 1: 50 Cent
You can have it your way, how do you want it
You gon' back that thing up or should i push up on it
Temperature rising, okay lets go to the next level
Dance floor jam packed, hot as a teakettle
I'll break it down for you now, baby it's simple
If you be a nympho, I'll be a nympho
In the hotel or in the back of the rental
On the beach or in the park, it's whatever you into
Got the magic stick, I'm the love doctor
Have your friends teasin you 'bout how sprung I gotcha
Wanna show me how you work it baby, no problem
Get on top then get to bouncing round like a low rider
I'm a seasons vet when it come to this shit
After you work up a sweat you can play with the stick
I'm tryin to explain baby the best way I can
I melt in your mouth girl, not in your hands (ha ha)

No word play
No creativity
his flow wasn't that great
Weak Vocab
No Multies

Yet this song is making it big. Commercial = simple lyrics that people can sing along to. gay but thats how they bring in the big bucks, i just don't consider it rap.

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:28 PM
Example for a group that is real rap

The roots, thats just 1 example and not even the best but they don't spit elementary lines, try spittin this verse and the thing is they freestyle most of there shit.

100% dundee, DL this song and listen to it.

Yo! On these seventy-three keys, of ivory and ebony
I swear solemnly that I'll forever rock steadily
People wanna know where Malik? He right next to me
The weaponry, the secret recipe
Hard to peep this, deep shit, shows I eat with
Contaminated thoughts I walk the street with
I bayonnet cassettes and chop beats with
this olympic lyricism you can't, compete with
Globe travellin, throwin your verse like a javelin
Things Fall Apart and MC's unravellin
Backstage whisperin to management like
"change the order, it's no way that we can rock after them"
My man sport the 'fro like _What's Happenin?_
From the latest hi-atus, The Roots back again
Your crew practicin to catch this natural blend
They packages read "care when handlin"
It's all soft shit, batteries not included with
Matter of fact, your whole front's a re-enactment
I blow your ba-tty ass into fragments, P-5-D
The new testament, mic specialist, what?

Great word play
Creativity
Great flow (listen to the song)
Great Vocab
Lots Multies

Only Commercial to the underground, not ment to be a sing along, i consider this real rap.

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:30 PM
its hot at least 50 is writting lyrics that go with the song title and all his verses are on the same path which is more than i can say about some so called rappers

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:31 PM
like i said, people mainly buy beat music and sing alongs,

just my .02 cents

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:32 PM
u read that and tell me where hes going with that verse what is it all about

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:35 PM
dont get me wrong the roots is hot shit i just like hearing something that you know whats going on and every verse isn't talking about a different topic

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:36 PM
its hot at least 50 is writting lyrics that go with the song title and all his verses are on the same path which is more than i can say about some so called rappers

exactually why its Commercial, weak music, easy for u to understand, and what is there not to understand about the roots lyrics? black thought just bascailly rip most artist with a simple freestyle. Not attacking u personally b/c everyone is entitled to their opinions, but i just don't like TRL music, lol

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:38 PM
have u listened to the new cd, there are a lot of hot songs that aren't sing alongs like candy shop and disco inferno, listen to baltimore love fling (very hot song) a lot of rappers are doing this sing along thing now days that is there 1st single thats how they sell and promote their records

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:44 PM
thats what i'm saying, but the sing along shit is not rap, and for the sing along shit is the reason alot of people buy the cd, but who cares about how much they sell, like stated before " what they eat, don't make us shit" but most people like nas don't sell out like that, they come strong everytime and still make it to the top without the BS. same goes for dre. 2pac, biggy just to name a few. they come strong everytime.

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:50 PM
what about ludacris, eminem, t.i., trick daddy, etc.?
u consider them rap?

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:53 PM
so ur saying 2pac,dre,biggy, they never had any sing alongs? i like biggy but i hated the song hypnotize (that wasn't what i was used to hearing from biggy)

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 10:55 PM
50, Luda, Feminem are examples of Star 94 rappers. TI is headed in that direction, but is still a decent lyricist. 50 is not a good lyricist. Trick Daddy is still pretty hood, still.

50 has found a fan base in pre-teens that wanna think they listen to good rap when they actually don't know what good rap is. Later, QD.

dre3g
03-24-2005, 10:58 PM
t.i. descent no no no t.i. is the hottest lyricist out right now nobody can touch him, hate to say this but not even jay-z

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 10:59 PM
i think lude has great lyrics, em and ti do too, even tho i havn't really listen to much of ti stuff, trick daddy doesn't come strong all the time, thats just based on what i've heard. i'm from miami so i don't choose sides like some people with this westside, eastside,southside b/s

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 11:03 PM
50, Luda, Feminem are examples of Star 94 rappers. TI is headed in that direction, but is still a decent lyricist. 50 is not a good lyricist. Trick Daddy is still pretty hood, still.

50 has found a fan base in pre-teens that wanna think they listen to good rap when they actually don't know what good rap is. Later, QD.

thats true, i have to dissagree with u on luda, i like his word play in his music, i can side with u on the rest tho. i don't listen to em much but i would say he can come strong if he wants too.

dre3g
03-24-2005, 11:05 PM
big rick i think u just got something against 50 cause i love these other rappers like eminem, luda, jigga, but they all have that one single that everybody and their momma's gonna know their lyrics too . i caught my mom listening and singing along with eminem the other day. whatthef*$k

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 11:09 PM
Luda does have good word play and I like listening to it sometimes. I just don't think he is THAT great of a rapper. He is Pop Star rapper.

I am staight West Coast music lover. But I give props to good rappers. Since Nas, there hasn't been a good rapper out of the North. Before Nas, you had Run DMC, Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane, quite a few. The South gave us 8Ball & MJG, Geto Boys, 3-6(A little) and that's mostly it.

There just aren't any great rappers that are in it for rapping. They wanna make a quick buck and split. Oh well. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 11:10 PM
50 just makes no snese. He sounds shitty, he looks shitty and he just seems fake as hell. I don't know if he is or not, he just gives me that impression. Later, QD.

dre3g
03-24-2005, 11:14 PM
i used to only listen to west coast too but then i found out what i was missing i am a fan of all types of hip hop & rap u gotta some respect to these guys

quickdodge®
03-24-2005, 11:18 PM
I do give respect to the ones that I feel should get it. No one these days deserves it from my point of view. I only listen to old school now because that's where it's at. Trust me, I don't like the shit the WC is putting out. Old school on that end, too. I know I'm not missing anything by not listening to these people now. Chingy, Fabolous, yeah, right. GayZ, 50, Jada, ummm...no. I don't know, I just can't dig it. Later, QD.

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 11:21 PM
big rick i think u just got something against 50 cause i love these other rappers like eminem, luda, jigga, but they all have that one single that everybody and their momma's gonna know their lyrics too . i caught my mom listening and singing along with eminem the other day. whatthef*$k

lol

only thing i have against him is his shit talkin, make music and if u wanna talk shit, write a song in battle form (diss) and show some skills.

Big Rick
03-24-2005, 11:24 PM
"There just aren't any great rappers that are in it for rapping. They wanna make a quick buck and split. Oh well."

very well put

I do give respect to the ones that I feel should get it. No one these days deserves it from my point of view. I only listen to old school now because that's where it's at. Trust me, I don't like the shit the WC is putting out. Old school on that end, too. I know I'm not missing anything by not listening to these people now. Chingy, Fabolous, yeah, right. GayZ, 50, Jada, ummm...no. I don't know, I just can't dig it. Later, QD.

exacty how i feel

dre3g
03-24-2005, 11:33 PM
lol

only thing i have against him is his shit talkin, make music and if u wanna talk shit, write a song in battle form (diss) and show some skills.

true!!! i still like him but yeah he does talk shit here and there. he's never made a whole song just rippin on a dude, eminem proved he aint nobody you wanna talk about, jay proved it, and t.i. fucked flip up, don't know if u heard it but that mixtape he put out with dj drama called down with the king was ill when he redid 99 problems and the jackin for beats track that shit was sick.
did you hear it?

NzProjeKt
03-24-2005, 11:39 PM
Since Nas, there hasn't been a good rapper out of the North.


WHAT? how can you forget Big L and Mobb Deep....

dre3g
03-24-2005, 11:47 PM
T.I. rips flip- 99 problems

King of the place, called home of the bass
He emerged at the trap, from the zone of the flake
Caught a case, and he still keep a chrome on his waist
For the haters in the face, gettin' thrown in the waist
Like a pussy nigga named Lil' Wesley, tryna test me
On your best behavior what your faggot ass best be
Choose words carefully when you address me
You ain't gotta like me, but you're gonna respect me
(Or else) or else you get wet like a jigsknee
Take ten of these and live, that'll impress me
Say I wanna rap on your songs but you aint let me
See you on the front of The Source, like that upset me
Fuck you in the ass, I aint mad 'bout shit
Try Tip, shot quick, that's all your ass gon' get
And I aint finna put a mass on Flip
Imma empty out the clip and your ass gon' flip
Bet your mom and your dad gon' trip
But them the consequences tryna mash on Tip
Nigga, lyrically I'll murk you
Physically I'll hurt you
You ain't never ran the streets, you had a curfew
Pussy nigga playin' with me, you'll be in the dirt soon
Look you in the eye see you sweet like perfume (muah)
So go on, keep runnin', you dick sucker
Imma swing, show the world that you just a big sucker
Daddy shoulda got some head, wish he woulda worn rubber
But he didn't, so now I guess the world gotta suffer
You the kind of wanksta, gangsta's done had enough of
So imma take pride when I ride through and bust you
Tip will be the reason for the saddest day your momma seen
When I let this case slay a nigga like the Drama King

quickdodge®
03-25-2005, 04:25 AM
WHAT? how can you forget Big L and Mobb Deep....


Lolol. Easy. Well, I did forget about Mobb. But I don't listen to them, either. Later, QD.

Speed_Freak
03-25-2005, 09:05 AM
fat joe is gay



Let's Not hate fat joe is doing it big time
And if Big Pun would be alive he be the best rapper alive

accordon17s
03-25-2005, 11:29 AM
Let's Not hate fat joe is doing it big time
And if Big Pun would be alive he be the best rapper alive

Sorry but FAGGOT joe aint shit IMO. Big Pun best rapper dont think so.

NzProjeKt
03-25-2005, 11:31 AM
Let's Not hate fat joe is doing it big time
And if Big Pun would be alive he be the best rapper alive

Bwaahhahaha.... Best Rapper Alive ? Good Joke man...

NzProjeKt
03-25-2005, 11:43 AM
Lolol. Easy. Well, I did forget about Mobb. But I don't listen to them, either. Later, QD.

Have you never listened to them ? Or you have and you just dont like them.... Regardless, Big L (RIP) and Mobb Deep have been amongst the few out of the North that actually made authentic street music and managed to be creative at the same time..

Big Rick
03-25-2005, 05:02 PM
true!!! i still like him but yeah he does talk shit here and there. he's never made a whole song just rippin on a dude, eminem proved he aint nobody you wanna talk about, jay proved it, and t.i. fucked flip up, don't know if u heard it but that mixtape he put out with dj drama called down with the king was ill when he redid 99 problems and the jackin for beats track that shit was sick.
did you hear it?

havn't heard it but i'll peep it later

quickdodge®
03-25-2005, 05:59 PM
Fat Joe is hardly hittin it big time. He is up right now, but not above. Big Pun was good, but not near best rapper status. Later, QD.

FrnkPwrs
03-25-2005, 08:55 PM
50 cent is the definition of commercial. I cant believe some people cant see that. You think someone listened to a 50 tape and was like "Oh, he's hot, let me sign him". He was brought on by eminem, who, as we all know bullshit aside, is a drama king. Contraversy sells records. Do you know how many rappers have been shot, stabbed, locked up, whatever, and that isnt all they talk about? Ever heard of MOP? Beanie Siegel? Peedi Crakk? I went to south Philly and seen people in Siegels Bentley pumping on the block. Do you see a media circus around them? Do you know how many time 2Pac has been shot and locked up? Yea, it made news, but damn, we didnt hear about it in every interview, commercial, and magazine his entire career!His career was planned out in a board room with guys in suits drinking coffee thinking about what extra shit they could throw out to suburbia!

You can hear 50 cent on 95.5 the beat! WTF?!? My aunt took Mobb Deeps Hell On Earth from me and my cousin, and we lived in the hood, but you can hear 60 all day on TRL. Camron isnt as nice as he used to be, but I can listen to a camron track and I can relate to what is being said, and its real things I know your not going to "hear" about. He talks about KTown in Chicago, moving with the Peter Pan and Greyhound being shook up, trips to NC. Hood shit, that your average teeny bopper isnt going to understand because it doesnt make sense. 50 Cent does it, I wont lie.

"That cat that sold coke, that cat that sold dope, that cat that shot dice- went broke and sold soap"

I can listen to that and be like 'AIght, hes actually been in the hood". There are shootings everwhere, doesnt mean you can rap. I can not say it enough, I dont care how many records you sell, it doesnt mean that your rap game is tight. From what I hear WIlliam Hung is selling records too. BTW, as of now 50 has only went 2x platinum. Maybe if he was little more commercial he can sell as many records as Nelly!

Pun? Pun was nice, no doubt! I think if he had more time, he would have been a greater rapper. The same for BIG. To me, BIG was a SERIOUS SERIOUS rapper. Too bad he only got 2 albums deep in his career. Fat Joe? He has the possibility to be nice, but he realizes that hes making commercial music.


em, I have always said is lyrically talented. I used to fuck with this white chick from Detroit [well, kinda still do] and now I can see why he raps about pills and all that shit because its big in that environment, cool. But he is a battle rapper! em is commercial to death, and hes not even trying on his CDs! Listen to em on some shit like on the Obie Trice CD the track assassins. The Next Friday soundtrack. The soundbombing CD. SICK! Shit that would scare someone trying to battle him! Your average person who buys an eminem CD isnt going to be on the train or huddled in 5 points buying the newest mixtape.

What pissed me off the most was when I saw the interview with 50 and he said that he felt that hip hop was in an ok state. WTF? We dont even get WuTang releases anymore! Name one song that 50 has put out that in 5 years, people will be banging and bobbing their heads? Biggie? LOL, bust out a CD. Dre or Snoop? Your joking right? Well, maybe snoop back in the day, LOL, but those artist put out CLASSICS!

Oh, BTW, dont sleep on my boy common!

quickdodge®
03-25-2005, 11:14 PM
Although I could give a shit about folks like Common, Mobb Deep and Dilated Peoples, I can give it to them because they seem to keep it real. My music tastes keep me to the Best Coast and I tend to listen to mutha fuccers like South Central Cartel, CMW, PPC, ATL. They are like the Mobb Deeps of the Left Coast. They keep it straight and not pop. You don't even hear their shit on the radio, let alone 95.5 or Star 94. Without Googling, I bet that well over 3/4 of the people here could tell me any of the song titles of SCC. I've been listening to them since their onset. Keep it gutter. I guess that's the main reason I could give a shit about Feminem or Fiddy. Besides the fact that I don't like the way they sound. Later, QD.

MitsuEvo6
03-25-2005, 11:26 PM
IMO, 50 sells so many cd's because 10-13 year old white girls don't know how to burn a cd. I'd like to know for sure, but think 50 has the respect from "the hood" that he's rapping about.

But that's just my .5..my bad .02

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 12:01 AM
50 cent is definitely a pre-teens ideal rapper. Lolol. Reminds me of a song that came out in the mid to late 80's by a group called Divine Sounds. It was called "What People Do For Money." One of my favorites back in the day. Later, QD.

Jaimecbr900
03-26-2005, 08:26 AM
Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.

Julio
03-26-2005, 10:38 AM
Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.



If I was a rapper I would want to be comercial, fuck all this I make music for the ghetto shit.

Dre said it best, "If I have to make music comercial to sell, Ill make it, If i want to make music for the ghetto ill make it, you just dont see it coming" The CHRONIC for example this albums sold of the rack like hot cake, everywhere.

And who said Fat joe sucks? Fat joe is not an idiot, Fat joe has been around since some of you were in 5th grade, Go listen to some of his 1st tapes and then talk shit.
Joe is a veteran, Shit is he realize making music for the ghetto is not putting food on the table.
And you would realize he was still making music for the streets when He had Big Pun under his belt, He made Big Pun Comercial while he was still making street music. But BIG pun passed, Joe had no other option.

I don't like 50's Lyrics and the only reason I listen to his shit is because Of DRE, Im a huge Dre fan.

Rakim said one time " I wish Rap was comercial back in my days" and hes one of the greatest lyrical rappers out there.

Music is like selling crack, you sell it to anyone to make money

Tupac " selling crack to the kids, But hey, thats the way it is"

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 10:47 AM
What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

I just don't like commercialized rap becuase the lyrics aren't what I want to hear. In commercialized rap, you have to make what the BIG GUYS want you to make. Something that will be "safe" to play on air. You can't rap what you want to rap. So the "fakeness" comes out. Everyone associates rap with the streets. Well, that's because it is. In the streets, your rep preceds you. More times than not, if you rap what the BIG GUYS tell you too, it won't be pure street. It'll sound fake. You sound fake, folks will think you're fake. That's why Ja Rule got heat from the West Coast because he was "street" and making love songs with Ashanti and such.

Also, think of it in a way like this, Jaime. In my opinion, to me, rap is like fixing up my car. I want something that no one else is listening to. I'm not exactly trying to be a leader, yet I'm not trying to be a follower, either. I don't want to bump something that everyone else is bumping. I want something no one else hears. Hope you understand a little better. It just goes along with the code of the streets. It may sound stupid, but that's just how it is. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 10:49 AM
And who said Fat joe sucks? Fat joe is not an idiot, Fat joe has been around since some of you were in 5th grade, Go listen to some of his 1st tapes and then talk shit.
Joe is a veteran, Shit is he realize making music for the ghetto is not putting food on the table.
And you would realize he was still making music for the streets when He had Big Pun under his belt, He made Big Pun Comercial while he was still making street music. But BIG pun passed, Joe had no other option.


I doubt this was headed my way because I never said he sucked or was an idiot. I did say he wasn't near being the best rapper alive. Later, QD.

Julio
03-26-2005, 10:51 AM
I doubt this was headed my way because I never said he sucked or was an idiot. I did say he wasn't near being the best rapper alive. Later, QD.

Na QD I saw a couple of people say he sucked, he just a business man you know.

But I agree, hes no way near best rapper status. But hes an OG

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 11:00 AM
OG, yes. He's been around. I remember. Lolol. He had good shit. RIP to him. Later, QD.

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 07:20 PM
Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.

Its really about having respect for the genre. Going commercial betrays the original fanbase. If you got all of your hype from underground clubs, mixtapes, battling in front of XandX liquor store, then more than likely you made music for that audience, thats why everyone thinks your hot. You made music that audience embraced and liked. Then you get "discovered" and you totally forgot about that audience. You make music that people play at the Rave and Express at the mall play inside the store.

its selling out. Its making music where your main motivation is something that will sell records, not something that sounds good and expresses what you want to say. An artist usually doesnt paint a picture based on the sole purpose of "I think this will sell". Usually an artist paints what they want/how they feel, then the price is something other than the primary issue.

BTW, not all noncommercial artist are full of people using extremely explicit lyrics. Pick up damn near anything frm Rawkus records. The Roots. Mos Def and Talib Kwali on the BlackStar tape. Oh, speaking of!

Ok, Mos Def has made more money off of his acting success than off of music. He is always on Dave Chapelle doing roles, etc. Now usually when rappers get into acting, its really lame, they change up, forget abotu their audience, etc. etc. etc. Mos Def can put out a song today, and it will soudn the exact same as when i first started listening to him in like 98. The same sharp style.

Now look at DMX from his first album. From "Boom boom boom, open the door, ATF, send my girl to the front door to say he left" to that "Party up" shit. Im not trying to hear that!

Look at snoop now and look at doggystyle snoop. I can respect the music he makes now, but snoop in doggystyle was SICK. No comparrison. When we have rappers who are commercial, it makes us feel like we had our backs turned on us becuase then its like the good music is gone!

Cricket
03-26-2005, 08:41 PM
here is the bottom line.. everyone has beef with everyone to sell records! none of these guys are ready to take it to the next level like tupac.. he lived what he wrote and he practiced what he preached! he lived by the gun and died by the gun! 50 cent nor nas or gay ass Z has enough balls in their pants to be a real G... rap battling will always be here because it sells records! Now for those who say 50 cent cant rap than your wrong... he can does and will rap.. look at his record sells... NAS is a punk ass bitch and so is Gay z! actually fuk the east coast sound in general xcept for the WU, naughty and mobb deep.. they all pretty much leg hump other rappers to get their shit heard!

eminem is the most lyrically gifted cat out there right now.. and since 50 is on his team i would have to say that they could hand anyones out theres ass to them on a silver fukin platter... o.k. im done

Greddypacked
03-26-2005, 09:09 PM
^^^ Chill bra, dont forget about dre in that team or GGGG G-Unit (Loyd Banks, the Game, etc...)

Beef in rap suckz. 50 can rap and has some good beats and tracks to back him up. Dre, Eminem, and G-Unit combined is pretty much a perfect combo in the industry right now. I like alot of artists out their that actually have beef against each other, but i dont go about whose on whose side. I like their music so i get what i like. Alot of rappers deal w/ it in different ways, some in beef and others in i dont give a sh!t what you have or say as long as im selling and im on top of the charts. I know Rule had alot against 50 when he first came out and Rule died down for a little bit w/ Murder Inc. A while later he came back w/ great artists like Kelly, Jada, Fat Joe, Ashanti and so on rapping about were still here and nothing is going to stop that and sold hits all day. Beef sucks in music, they should get around it and rap about something better than it. Though, sometimes it is funny how they configure their rhymes in a rap about someone else, but i still think it's sh!t.

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 09:38 PM
^^^ Chill bra, dont forget about GGGG G-Unit (Loyd Banks, the Game, etc...)

You must be joking.



50 can rap and has some good beats and tracks to back him up. Dre, Eminem, and G-Unit combined is pretty much a perfect combo in the industry right now.

The only thing 50 really has going for him is Dre and unfortunately Fem. Without them, 50, Young Fuck, and Llyod Stanks aren't really much of anything.



none of these guys are ready to take it to the next level like tupac.. he lived what he wrote and he practiced what he preached!

None that most people hear of. I hear of folks all the time going down by their lyrics. Just none of them big time like Pac. Except one. C-Murder.



eminem is the most lyrically gifted cat out there right now..

Disagree. He may be good, but not the most.



and since 50 is on his team i would have to say that they could hand anyones out theres ass to them on a silver fukin platter.

Disagree again. 50 would only win because of Fem. Later, QD.

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 09:44 PM
Beef shit is hurting hip hop. I preferred when it was someone just talking shit in an interview or smoething, now its like everyone MUST beef with someone to make it. Who cares? All that gossip and drama is shit that I would expect females to talk about in bathrooms while fixing lipstick. I dont walk aroudn liek "Oh, did you know 50 cents babysitter is coming out with some shit against skee lo for saying that he wish he was a baller?" Im tired of all the beef! Im tired of having a CD, it sounds good, but then its got a gimmicky song on the CD that FORCES me to remember the beef pickle tom had with money mark. Its wack!

And none of these beefs are happening in a way where you cant deny who the winner is! There is always rumors about people going on pay per view battling. First it was a nas and jay rumor, then it was a 50 and jada rumor. I want to see these people battle! Nas wont do it because it was admitted that hes not a freestyler. But THAT is hip hop! Its like the Cassidy and Freeway tape! Battling in hotel lobby, backstage at a club, whatever, but give me that bomb, hood, grimey, bunch of people in a circle bobbing heads talking shit. Thats real hip hop, not people wearing bullet proof vest outside their clothes because "They always gotta have security" Fugazi ass shit...

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 09:55 PM
G Unit is wack. Young buck, not lyrically gifted. Ill give it to Banks, hes nicer than 50, but that doesnt say much. I actually like Tony Yayo from some shit htat I heard from GUnit Radio because he has that cocky swagger ["When I be using them big words, your bitch be feelin me!"] They have skill, no doubt, but they arent the hardest out there!

There are TONS of people who live the life, and its not always the best thing. I mean, look at Big L. BIg L and his brother moved dope, and they shot him looking for his brother. There was a dude named XRaided who wrote a song about a robbery, and then later was locked up because it was basically him describing a real robbey he had done. Camron, LOL, go to Chicago and ask about him. The kid moves weight! Even old school rappers Big Daddy Kane and MOP, still in the hood. Beanie Siegel, Peedi Crakk, TI, still in the hood doing their thing. Those are all rappers I know FOR FACT get down and boogie. I hear from people in the Bronx that Terror Squad is a crew, not only a rap group, doing things in the hood. There are people doing their thing, its usually not blown up until someone gets locked up.

And Im with QD. Em has skill, I will never change my mind on that. But not the best. Not lyrically. I would love to see him battle cassidy or canibus. I would pay to see that!

carrascopa
03-26-2005, 09:58 PM
wait who is more lyrically gifet than em? thats living not dead....

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 10:00 PM
canibus

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 10:01 PM
And canibus is a fair matchup because they have VERY simliar, battlerap styles

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 10:07 PM
I agree. I don't listen to him, but he would sure give that white guy a run. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 10:09 PM
By the way, you guys know that Dr. Dre has signed on another cracka? Dude name Epik from Ohio. Later, QD.

carrascopa
03-26-2005, 10:10 PM
y r u too in on a saturday night! I mean i gave up my partying hat to be a family man.. but you frank at least shoud be out

quickdodge®
03-26-2005, 10:15 PM
Lolol. Later, QD.

soul
03-26-2005, 10:47 PM
Immortal Technique could hand all of them their ass's anyday of the week

FrnkPwrs
03-26-2005, 10:55 PM
LOL, im getting drunk tonite so im waiting on my designated driver to come show up! Imma be at Disco Rodeo, Santo Domingo, and atlanta peach tonite!

Jaimecbr900
03-27-2005, 09:34 PM
Well, I follow all that, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I'm not well-versed and I'm just a run-of-the-mill listener. I know what I like and what I don't. To be honest, I listen to lyrics as a second to the beat or music itself. If it sounds good, then I like it. Sound is what attracts me and not the drama before the CD comes out. After I like the sound, I listen to the lyrics. Some of the lyrics are cool. Others don't make any sense at all. To be honest, most are about the same theme anyway; I was from the ghetto, now I'm rich, now I'm the shiat, now I got women, now I wanna screw them all....... ;) So, in essence they are all fighting over who talks the most shit about what they think they are, huh?

With that said, I still don't get why people or rappers fight over who is the "hardest" or "ghettoest" is. That's like bragging about who the dumbest person is. Who really cares? If they are really in the business to stay true to their "roots", then why bother to be signed with ANY label then? And if not signed, why down those that are?

Still don't get it. Sorry. If I was in the business, my goal would be to be on top. Why else get into it? To stay on the bottom? To struggle? Just doesn't make sense. It sounds to the layman like me like a bunch hating. If you don't like an entertainer for one reason or another, cool. But to hate them for simply being on top? That's silly.

quickdodge®
03-27-2005, 09:40 PM
I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

Jaimecbr900
03-28-2005, 09:11 PM
I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

True.

FrnkPwrs
03-28-2005, 09:27 PM
I understand your listening style, and its similiar to how tons of people listen to all types of music. The problem lies in that a lot of commercialized music is what hits the radio, instead of the stuff with more meaning then "I got this, that, and the extra that over there".

Yea, no doubt, there is lots of bragging in hip hop and rap. But for someone who made it from being homeless, making pennies, not knowing if today is the day you are going to die or get locked up, its understandable that you might want to brag about the new bimmer you have in couple songs.

And Ill be honest there are lots of songs and artist talking about guns, drugs, sex, etc., but this is music mostly from the hood. Then there is just as much music that is in the opposite and talking about other things, but it just never makes radio or TV. Those artist like common arent celebrated as often as your GUnits, because your number one consumer of rap music isnt into that. The closest thing to it is the neptunes, because they are into making music that they feel will change the way we listen to it. Working with artist with different sounds and using different concepts.

True, are into making music for being famous and being paid. Then there are some people into making music for making good music. A poet usually writes whats on their mind, not what people will find the most contraversial. An artist usually paints what they feel, not what they think is newest trend to make a $10k sell for a painting. Its about the integrity of your music. All about selling out.

Staying to the roots is OK, because a lot of rappers dont seek major deals. A prime example, Mike Jones, and you may have heard his music. A lot of rappers are only seeking distribution instead of being signed to other larger labels. i.e. Diplomats, Rawkus, Grind Time, BMF, Oomp Camp. You just gotta look further than radio for those stories. See the movie Brown Sugar, it deals with the status of hip hop.

But I will never agree with all of the BEEFING! Its annoying the hell out of me, becuase now people are known for who they are beefing with, not what they said on thier CD. ITs always been there, not as frequent as now. Its beginning to be the bulk of whats being focused on right now. Usually the hardest rappers are the ones who arent talking about it

Jaimecbr900
03-29-2005, 10:35 AM
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not into as much as some of you guys are but.......It still doesn't make sense to me. I got all the basics down, but it just seems to me like hate is clouding some of these guy's judgement.

I'm cool with people not liking each other for one reason or another, but it just seems to me that if it's about one person being "harder" or more "ghetto" than the other as the reason for the beef.......that's stupid, aint it? Even more so if they are fighting over who sang with who. I'm just saying that it all sounds silly to me. Maybe I'm missing something.

FrnkPwrs
03-29-2005, 09:29 PM
I cant get into a artist being mad because someoen recorded wiht someone else either. Thats emotional. Thats whining. He can disagree wiht someone, but why are people making the world stop when 50 cent doesnt like someone? I dont think that the issue of being "harder" is really the main focus. When rappers battle, they talk about one being better than the other.

So its not neccessarily who shot more people literally, but boasting, making yourself look better while your rapping. It would be boring if someone was like "I just purchased a bimmer, a wonderful new watch, and a lakefront property, which is something you havent got". Instead people say that "Stacks so fat they sag my pants back, expose my asscrack, instead of a bank statement i just check numbers on the nasdaq" or something like that.

accordon17s
03-29-2005, 10:50 PM
T.I. rips flip- 99 problems

King of the place, called home of the bass
He emerged at the trap, from the zone of the flake
Caught a case, and he still keep a chrome on his waist
For the haters in the face, gettin' thrown in the waist
Like a pussy nigga named Lil' Wesley, tryna test me
On your best behavior what your faggot ass best be
Choose words carefully when you address me
You ain't gotta like me, but you're gonna respect me
(Or else) or else you get wet like a jigsknee
Take ten of these and live, that'll impress me
Say I wanna rap on your songs but you aint let me
See you on the front of The Source, like that upset me
Fuck you in the ass, I aint mad 'bout shit
Try Tip, shot quick, that's all your ass gon' get
And I aint finna put a mass on Flip
Imma empty out the clip and your ass gon' flip
Bet your mom and your dad gon' trip
But them the consequences tryna mash on Tip
Nigga, lyrically I'll murk you
Physically I'll hurt you
You ain't never ran the streets, you had a curfew
Pussy nigga playin' with me, you'll be in the dirt soon
Look you in the eye see you sweet like perfume (muah)
So go on, keep runnin', you dick sucker
Imma swing, show the world that you just a big sucker
Daddy shoulda got some head, wish he woulda worn rubber
But he didn't, so now I guess the world gotta suffer
You the kind of wanksta, gangsta's done had enough of
So imma take pride when I ride through and bust you
Tip will be the reason for the saddest day your momma seen
When I let this case slay a nigga like the Drama King

:2up: OWNAGE! :2up:

bicsintegra
04-26-2005, 10:09 AM
T.I. is the king of the south flip luda they have nothing on his flow or his style. luda has good beats and that is it he might have 1 or 2 ggod songs per album. flip don't get me started with that shit. as for the whole g-unit against new york thing. fifty is a marketing plan gone extremely well, that is it. some whiteman is sitting in a room taking every aspect of fifty's life and tunrning it into dollars. i ain't mad at him or fifty for the money i have done worst things. there is nothing special about fifty cent he grew up in the same bullshit that most black men did no daddy momma wroking 2 jobs and the streets raised me, me too. in today's society it is so cool to be "urban" black thug gangsta or whatever you want to call it. i was born in queens raised in brooklyn and all i dreamed of was getting the fuck out. fifty is being marketed to people who will never stand on the block, bust shots off the roof, fuck on the roof, or move bricks in the hood. the same reason why scarface is a cult classic is why fifty is selling records. jada or nas would rip fifty who is not a freestyle artist. eminem would probably give nas a good run but jada forget about it. nas is not a f.s. battlerapper but jada is. fifty will loose this battle and he will still sell millions and make millions but his rep in the streets will suffer. if he so gangsta why didn't he answer scarface? like jada said
" it just don't look decent,
it's like niggers went on tour
and took the whole fucking precinct."

A.P. Photography
04-26-2005, 10:20 AM
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not into as much as some of you guys are but.......It still doesn't make sense to me. I got all the basics down, but it just seems to me like hate is clouding some of these guy's judgement.

I'm cool with people not liking each other for one reason or another, but it just seems to me that if it's about one person being "harder" or more "ghetto" than the other as the reason for the beef.......that's stupid, aint it? Even more so if they are fighting over who sang with who. I'm just saying that it all sounds silly to me. Maybe I'm missing something.:werd: I agree

quickdodge®
04-26-2005, 02:36 PM
T.I. isn't King of the South. Later, QD.

NzProjeKt
04-26-2005, 07:37 PM
hahaha I cant wait to hear NAS bust lyrics on his ass.

He is saving them all for his new album.. Nasdaq Dow Jones
Which BTW should be droppin sometime this summer or closer to the end of the year..... :goodjob:

bicsintegra
04-27-2005, 09:22 AM
T.I. isn't King of the South. Later, QD.


then who is? by terms of respect nobody is repping the south like t.i. in a non-country slang backwoods way ie. trillville, slim thug, mike jones, paul wall, lil flip, or lil john and ying yang, or the mighty 36 mafia.

the only person who could give him comp with that title is trick daddy or outkast and they are falling off.

bicsintegra
04-27-2005, 09:23 AM
I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

everything was better back in the day music, t.v., jordans, life, oh well.......

quickdodge®
04-27-2005, 02:40 PM
everything was better back in the day music, t.v., jordans, life, oh well.......


You're damn right. Except for the Jordan's. Chuck Taylor's this way.




then who is? by terms of respect nobody is repping the south like t.i. in a non-country slang backwoods way ie. trillville, slim thug, mike jones, paul wall, lil flip, or lil john and ying yang, or the mighty 36 mafia.

the only person who could give him comp with that title is trick daddy or outkast and they are falling off.

None of them are worth considering King of the South. We're looking at the most contribution from an artist. Coming to mind is Scarface of Geto Boys or UGK. T.I. has the makings of the new or adding his name to the list. T.I is the only southern rapper right now worth a shit. Later, QD.

bicsintegra
04-28-2005, 02:00 PM
You're damn right. Except for the Jordan's. Chuck Taylor's this way.
None of them are worth considering King of the South. We're looking at the most contribution from an artist. Coming to mind is Scarface of Geto Boys or UGK. T.I. has the makings of the new or adding his name to the list. T.I is the only southern rapper right now worth a shit. Later, QD.

i know ti hasn't added a lot to the south's list of achievements but right now he is on top of the rap game in the south with little competition. when i look at most osuthern rappers i just start laughing they look like clowns not even believable in their own videos.

quickdodge®
04-28-2005, 03:34 PM
I agree, T.I. is taking it over right now. And he is actually good, also. Lolol. Later, QD.

NzProjeKt
05-01-2005, 11:35 AM
And now for the moment we have all been waiting for.......
Nas confirms at Fridays concert... " I got new shit comming out this year to get at them gap toothed motherfawkerrs... G G G G"

http://jayme.bac.club.fr/nasconcert2_007.asf

well its about GOD DAMN time.... :goodjob:

Julio
05-01-2005, 11:47 AM
about time.. link doesnt work bro.

NzProjeKt
05-01-2005, 12:00 PM
works fine for me.. anyway try this one..

http://adrameleck666.skyblog.com/index.html
Scroll Down to Nas Diss 50 Live

Julio
05-01-2005, 12:14 PM
NAS is the greatest

Julio
05-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Im missing street deciple and for some odd reason I cant find covers for The lost tapes and Stillmatic... wtf mate.

NzProjeKt
05-01-2005, 12:24 PM
Nice collection you got there man... :goodjob:

I find it rather funny how his catalogue of unleased shit is 10x hotter than lots of other rappers entire albums..
Streets Disciple is HOTT but too bad it only went Gold...

Julio
05-01-2005, 12:28 PM
agree 150%..

bicsintegra
05-20-2005, 09:32 AM
i think Nas has to got to drop another classic soon street's disciple wasn't that good of an album. god's son and stillmatic were instant vintage but i just couldn't get into his latest cd.