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nsany(atl)
11-07-2008, 07:44 AM
thank you all of the new registered voters, more particularly the 18-24 y/o's. You have just been duped into registering for the draft that will soon be coming your way. I would like to go ahead and thank you for your future service to this country and I am sure the military will make you a better person than you are now. Enjoy


Transcript: ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University

Quote:
But it?s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That?s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it?s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.

http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/...ia-university/

Total_Blender
11-07-2008, 08:40 AM
Registration for the draft is mandatory 30 days after your 18th birthday anyway. If you don't register they can fine you up to $250k (although actual prosecution for not registering is rare) and you are ineligible for just about every gov't program (including Social Security, Pell Grants and other college assistance programs, TANF, Food Stamps, etc). You probably couldn't even get a job because your employer wouldn't be able to do your payroll taxes/Social Security.

SPOOLIN
11-07-2008, 09:07 AM
come on now its called the "selective service"

Ill be 25 by the time any of this were to be reality and mark my words, IM RUNNING if I did get selected unless i can score a mechanic position or technology position. :)

tony
11-07-2008, 09:16 AM
I thought he was anti military? Which one is it?

Sport1.3
11-07-2008, 09:20 AM
nice link.....seems real legit lulz


turning 25 crew signing in, have fun drafties

BanginJimmy
11-07-2008, 09:39 AM
The ignorance about the draft really is remarkable.

If you live in GA and have renewed your drivers license since your 18th B-day, guess what, you are fully registered with the selective service. The same is true in about 20 other states.

The President has no control over the draft. First there must be a formal declaration of war passed through both houses of congress. Second, a bill must be passed through both houses to institute the draft. Third, the President must sign off on both bills.

So unless we end up in a real war, dont worry about the draft.

bigdare23
11-07-2008, 09:44 AM
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Alan®
11-07-2008, 09:45 AM
The ignorance about the draft really is remarkable.

If you live in GA and have renewed your drivers license since your 18th B-day, guess what, you are fully registered with the selective service. The same is true in about 20 other states.

The President has no control over the draft. First there must be a formal declaration of war passed through both houses of congress. Second, a bill must be passed through both houses to institute the draft. Third, the President must sign off on both bills.

So unless we end up in a real war, dont worry about the draft.
You sure cause I'm gonna be honest I haven't registered for it. I haven't done it cause I don't want to it's just that I keep forgetting to do it. But I haven't got a draft card in the mail or anything so IDK how accurate that info is.

bigdare23
11-07-2008, 09:47 AM
You sure cause I'm gonna be honest I haven't registered for it. I haven't done it cause I don't want to it's just that I keep forgetting to do it. But I haven't got a draft card in the mail or anything so IDK how accurate that info is.


If you're in school and you filled out the fasfa from you're signed up.

nsany(atl)
11-07-2008, 09:51 AM
The Dem's have been trying to get this through for awhile, now that they control everything it may be coming

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-393

Sorry that link wasn't good enough here's the one from the Library of Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.R.393:

BanginJimmy
11-07-2008, 09:58 AM
here is the info from the SSS.gov website.


Description of Typical State Driver’s License Legislation

These laws are simple and inexpensive to implement. They instruct the state’s Department of Public Safety or Motor Vehicles to include a consent statement on all applications or renewals for driver’s permits, licenses, and identification cards. The statement tells the applicant that by submitting the application he is consenting to his registration with the SSS, if so required by Federal law. Females are not required to register with SSS under current law. Men 26 years of age or beyond are too old to register.

Transmission of applicant data to the SSS is accomplished electronically through an existing arrangement each state has with the data sharing system of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVAnet) at no extra cost to the state.

Status of State Driver’s License Legislation

As of May 11, 2007, 36 states, 3 territories, and the District of Columbia have enacted driver’s license laws supporting SSS registration. They are: (1) Enacted and Implemented - Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho

http://www.sss.gov/FSdrivers.htm

like I said, if you have renewed a drivers license in GA, you re already registered.

BanginJimmy
11-07-2008, 10:10 AM
The Dem's have been trying to get this through for awhile, now that they control everything it may be coming

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-393

Sorry that link wasn't good enough here's the one from the Library of Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.R.393:

I actually do agree with 1 section of that horribly retarded bill. I think women should be eligable under the selective service also. I know they are not going to end up in combat units, but there are hundreds of non combat jobs per division that must be filled also.

joecoolfreak
11-07-2008, 10:19 AM
The Dem's have been trying to get this through for awhile, now that they control everything it may be coming

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-393

Sorry that link wasn't good enough here's the one from the Library of Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.R.393:

That bill has about zero chance of ever going anywhere...but I think it would be a great idea.

Alan®
11-07-2008, 10:21 AM
here is the info from the SSS.gov website.



http://www.sss.gov/FSdrivers.htm

like I said, if you have renewed a drivers license in GA, you re already registered.
Hmmm ok. Well thats god info for me I guess. Considering I renewed it on my 18th birthday.

Elbow
11-07-2008, 11:05 AM
LOL @ you all

AnthonyF
11-07-2008, 11:47 AM
why is everyone such a p*ssy about the army? Seriously? It's funny how everyone acts all tough but when the draft or war is mentioned, everyone says they will flee or play dead. I dunno, maybe it is b/c my father was in Vietnam and actually contributed to the war.

-Ant.

tony
11-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Shows how baseless the anti-Obama rhetoric has become.

willum14pb
11-07-2008, 11:57 AM
if you get drafted, fucking deal with it. stop being a bunch of pussies.

JITB
11-07-2008, 12:01 PM
lol dam you all are really scraping the pot..

bandydesign
11-07-2008, 12:05 PM
I'm a skinny little smart kid. The military isn't stupid; they wouldn't put me on the front lines. I would be doing an engineering related job. If the military needs me there, I will pay my debt to my country, no big deal.

Besides, if classes keep going as they are, I wont be out of college before I'm 25 lol jk... I hope.

Mik2006
11-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Lol. why are people already complaining when nothing has even happened yet.

Ran
11-07-2008, 12:13 PM
why is everyone such a p*ssy about the army? Seriously? It's funny how everyone acts all tough but when the draft or war is mentioned, everyone says they will flee or play dead.:werd:

Sport1.3
11-07-2008, 12:22 PM
why is everyone such a p*ssy about the army? Seriously? It's funny how everyone acts all tough but when the draft or war is mentioned, everyone says they will flee or play dead. I dunno, maybe it is b/c my father was in Vietnam and actually contributed to the war.

-Ant.


So by that regard, how was your own service term this year?

Sport1.3
11-07-2008, 12:23 PM
:werd:

You actually served though

AnthonyF
11-07-2008, 12:40 PM
So by that regard, how was your own service term this year?

I didn't serve. Was I afraid not to? No. If it came to it that they needed a draft or really need people in the military I would have joined....and LOVED it.

-Ant.

Bridged
11-07-2008, 12:42 PM
If it happens it happens. If USA needs me i'm in. :goodjob:

Only reason i'm not in there now is Medical reasons stopped me from passing physical. Draft would solve my problem. That and I didn't agree with the whole "don't shoot unless shot upon" thing, kinda sounded flaky and thought that could get bad, as it already has.

Free housing and a nice pay check for getting shot at. I could deal with that just fine. Hell I deal with it now minus the free housing and pay check.

Ghetto's suck :/

Alan®
11-07-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm a skinny little smart kid. The military isn't stupid; they wouldn't put me on the front lines. I would be doing an engineering related job. If the military needs me there, I will pay my debt to my country, no big deal.

Besides, if classes keep going as they are, I wont be out of college before I'm 25 lol jk... I hope.
Hate to tell you but last I heard that exception to the rule got removed along time ago

scabtastic
11-07-2008, 03:04 PM
i couldnt pass the physical...

SPOOLIN
11-07-2008, 11:43 PM
im a pussy, ill live with that. LOL

redrumracer
11-08-2008, 12:53 AM
it wouldnt bother me if i got drafted, hell i plan on joining after i finish college.

also if i went to Germany i would have to 2 years in there military anyways since i am a german citizen.

1slowLt1
11-08-2008, 01:00 AM
Maybe im too fat to get drafted, but if they called me i would go.

§treet_§peed
11-08-2008, 01:05 AM
fuck it.. time to become a suicide bomber..:D

Thighs
11-08-2008, 01:38 AM
LOLOL

i dont even know where to start with some of you tards. ALL of you are already registered for the draft. theres not gonna be another draft for a long long time, and if there happens to be one, tough luck. you live here and benefit from all of the GOOD things this country still has to offer, so you should be willing to defend it.

SPOOLIN
11-08-2008, 10:46 AM
LOLOL

i dont even know where to start with some of you tards. ALL of you are already registered for the draft. theres not gonna be another draft for a long long time, and if there happens to be one, tough luck. you live here and benefit from all of the GOOD things this country still has to offer, so you should be willing to defend it.

yeah someone invades my yard, all our guns will point out the window and pluck them down.

DrivenMind
11-09-2008, 12:28 PM
The ignorance about the draft really is remarkable.

If you live in GA and have renewed your drivers license since your 18th B-day, guess what, you are fully registered with the selective service. The same is true in about 20 other states.

The President has no control over the draft. First there must be a formal declaration of war passed through both houses of congress. Second, a bill must be passed through both houses to institute the draft. Third, the President must sign off on both bills.

So unless we end up in a real war, dont worry about the draft.

First seriously down to earth thing I've ever heard you say bro....

obear
11-09-2008, 12:41 PM
The ignorance about the draft really is remarkable.

If you live in GA and have renewed your drivers license since your 18th B-day, guess what, you are fully registered with the selective service. The same is true in about 20 other states.

The President has no control over the draft. First there must be a formal declaration of war passed through both houses of congress. Second, a bill must be passed through both houses to institute the draft. Third, the President must sign off on both bills.

So unless we end up in a real war, dont worry about the draft.

Finally, someone that actually knows how the govt. works.

BanginJimmy
11-09-2008, 02:56 PM
actually I was wrong. The president I has to formally declare an emergency before Congress acts, it is not just a declaration of war. Either way though, both houses have to pass a bill instating the draft.

BanginJimmy
11-09-2008, 02:57 PM
First seriously down to earth thing I've ever heard you say bro....

not true at all. We may be on competely differnt sides of the coin on pretty much everything, but I only spent a few hours whining before I got back to reality.

Total_Blender
11-10-2008, 08:54 AM
actually I was wrong. The president I has to formally declare an emergency before Congress acts, it is not just a declaration of war. Either way though, both houses have to pass a bill instating the draft.

Yeah, thats how it works. There have actually been several bills to reinstate the draft, at least one has been from the democrats. In 2004 Representative Charles Rangel (D-IL) put out a bill to reinstate the draft (with far fewer exemptions than the previous draft) on the basis the draft would equalize military service between social/economic classes, and that Congress would consider wars more carefully if their own children were eligible for the draft. I don't agree with that, FWIW.

I'm pushing 30 though... no draft for me:goodjob:

blaknoize
11-12-2008, 08:39 PM
I didn't serve. Was I afraid not to? No. If it came to it that they needed a draft or really need people in the military I would have joined....and LOVED it.

-Ant.
Not be FORCED to. DURR

DrivenMind
11-12-2008, 11:24 PM
I would serve my country if I got drafted, and I'd probably do it without complaint. I've debated joining the military numerous times, but all the men who were in it before me (3 generations) said it was something they wouldn't ever recommend. But I'm sure I'd do quite well on an ASVAB, and get a decent job. Not a bad idea given the way the economy is looking at the moment.

GhostSTI
11-12-2008, 11:32 PM
sweet! free uniforms, i'm in

BanginJimmy
11-12-2008, 11:51 PM
I would serve my country if I got drafted, and I'd probably do it without complaint. I've debated joining the military numerous times, but all the men who were in it before me (3 generations) said it was something they wouldn't ever recommend. But I'm sure I'd do quite well on an ASVAB, and get a decent job. Not a bad idea given the way the economy is looking at the moment.

previous generations of the military dont even compare to todays military, especially the army and chair force. They are always looking for intelligent people to send to school for high tech jobs that pay very well in the civilia world.

JR VQ 30 de
11-13-2008, 12:11 AM
thank you all of the new registered voters, more particularly the 18-24 y/o's. You have just been duped into registering for the draft that will soon be coming your way. I would like to go ahead and thank you for your future service to this country and I am sure the military will make you a better person than you are now. Enjoy


Transcript: ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University

Quote:
But it?s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That?s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it?s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.

http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/...ia-university/



even if i would of votted for mcain i would of still have registerded so same bull shit but with the president i want lol

primespark22
11-13-2008, 12:20 AM
:no: i dont hate obama but it true bout the draft,my buddy left on monday to training for six months he was suppose to come back,but the sargeant told him and us the after his training is done he is bieng deployed and there will be recruiting alot of people soon,which completely sucks

man
11-13-2008, 03:54 PM
Sounds good to me

The Ninja
11-16-2008, 09:22 PM
if you get drafted, fucking deal with it. stop being a bunch of pussies.

Fuck you.

If -I- support the cause, -I- will go.