the OFFICIAL IM UPSET OBAMA WON/MCCAIN LOST THREAD

[Vteckidd]

Keep it in here

[Jimmy B]

first

[w3503]

i'm upset he wants more taxes on small businesses.

that's it.

[FasTech]

I personally think he is just going to screw things up worse for our country! Time will tell. If he's able to last... I also think someone is going to try a kill him. Nothing personal just my opinion.

[redrumracer]

honestly he is going to get shot, so im not that upset.

[Random Hero]

Obama FTL...let's hope Congress keeps him in check.

[§treet_§peed]

lol sniper

[§treet_§peed]

nice Supra btw.. i want to own one before i kick the bucket lol

[DrivenMind]

Im really upset the anti-christ won. Someone should tell the muslims, you know to let them know their man on the inside has made it to the big time. I'm sure they haven't got the news via camel yet...

[fawk_you]

in here too.

R.I.P. America. /thread.

[fawk_you]

Sucks that he only had about 100+ days of legit experience being in a "leader" position.

BEST of luck with your taxes.

[TheGodfather]

A biracial, who everyone thinks is black, and a muslim, no he's not a Christian, just won the Presidency with no experience and people are happy?!

Morons.

[§treet_§peed]

ok here is one thing i remember hearing him say. he said he will not but his hand on a Bible and swear... You have to place your hand on the Bible and say the Oath Of Office to become president right?? :thinking:

[XLR8NMR2]

LoL about the ignorance in this thread....

We got a new president elected by the american people... If you don't like that well make some adjustments and gtfo the country and move to Canada and mexico and see how well you have it over there..

I'm not afraid to say this country will go in a good direction because there is no way it can get any worse from now and 8 years prior.....

OH YEAH ONE MORE THING......

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[Dr.G35]

your an idiot, you think we are felling the immediate affects of bush? it doesnt happen that quickly. Plus Bush went through September 11th, Iraq War, Katrina, and countless other events that branched off from the three major ones I listed. I would love to see Obama's "experience" in those situations.

[VooDooXII]

Only reason I'm "upset" is because the "celebration" has kept me from sleeping. :/

[Got Milk?]

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[The Ren]

Unfortunately One of them had to win.. my opinion it was the wrong one, but hey I guess the next four years will decide if my opinion is right or wrong.

[mocha latte cupcake]

reason #25 why i am buying my plane ticket to another country. this "on job training" should go rather smoothly, just like the FREE money with more tax breaks, oops did i forget to mention i'm bringing my # down from 250k to 100k now, hehehe looks as though i MIGHT have under calculated on a few things and well... i'm going to NEED money now instead of giving it away. BUT on the good note, tyrone, bonqui qui, tashanda and shenana can afford those big screen tv's, more 40's AND that set of asanti's they've been waiting for now, and they don't even have to work for it!

don't agree. best i can do is pray that he doesn't get tested too fast and make some dumb decisions. its going to be interesting to see if everyone has the same BUSH reaction now if he screws up and points the finger @ each other. socialism is where its @ guys! :goodjob:

[The Ren]

Hell no they wont.. It will be like clinton.. Obama can do no wrong. If you noticed now everyone is making the big deal about Obama being black and not even discussing his principles.. but that should not have been the right reason to vote for him.

[tron]

STOP YOUR BITCHING

[SUBY_RUE]

Give it a year, and obama voters will be like "damnit...I think we f*ked up"

[The Ren]

STOP YOUR BITCHING

Thats whats great about this country.. FREE SPEECH

[Papa_Smurf]

Hell no they wont.. It will be like clinton.. Obama can do no wrong. If you noticed now everyone is making the big deal about Obama being black and not even discussing his principles.. but that should not have been the right reason to vote for him.

agree 100%

his race should not be the topic of discussion, but it should also not be the sole reason why he was elected by many voters. Friends of mine asked many Obama supporters why they voted for Obama, and all they can say is "I'm ready for change" ... a slogan, woo. But knew nothing about his political views.

But, this is who AMERICA voted for, and he won with overwhelming numbers. This is quite possibly one of the most important electons in history, and we are living through it. The decision in this electon will forever change the face of our country. Weather good or bad is yet to be determined, but it will be exciting none the less :cheers:

[Meso Teggy]

wow reading some of the posts in here is really sad and it proves the majority of this country has moved along and the color of someone's skin shouldnt matter and the dumb ignorant f.ucktards that say he is a muslim....sad that yall have the freedom and right to vote, but anyways Obama won.....BOOYAH!!!!

[ironchef]

Obama FTL...let's hope Congress keeps him in check.Not likely since a majority of them are Democrats also :(.

Why are the people that aren't upset he won, posting in this thread?

[BobbyFresco]

Hell no they wont.. It will be like clinton.. Obama can do no wrong. If you noticed now everyone is making the big deal about Obama being black and not even discussing his principles.. but that should not have been the right reason to vote for him.


I'm sure that you're speaking ill of the people that voted for Mccain simply because he was White. Right? :rolleyes:

[Meso Teggy]

Not likely since a majority of them are Democrats also :(.

Why are the people that aren't upset he won, posting in this thread?
why are the people who are upset he won posting in the other?

[ironchef]

I don't know, I'm not.

[tron]

Thats whats great about this country.. FREE SPEECH


yea not bitching

[tron]

lol im just trying to start shit
i say lets see what happens
if obama fucks up then vote mc chicken next time
thats if he lives that long! lol j/p

[1000cckiller]

lol im just trying to start shit
i say lets see what happens
if obama fucks up then vote mc chicken next time
thats if he lives that long! lol j/px2

[The Ren]

I'm sure that you're speaking ill of the people that voted for Mccain simply because he was White. Right? :rolleyes:

Yes I would as well.. Its fucking stupid to choose someone because of their race. White/ Black/ Asian whatever its fucking stupid

[tony]

Yes I would as well.. Its fucking stupid to choose someone because of their race. White/ Black/ Asian whatever its fucking stupid

Heres the thing on that Ren, to an extent I agree. But you said that we should be looking into Obama's policy rather than his race. I'm not saying you're wrong, just realize that something historic took place last night and considering the history of this country, it is monumental.

The man will have no authority for the next 76 days, we can spend the next 75 dissecting his policies but why can't those that are deeply affected by what they witnessed last night just recognize the achievement? If only for a day.

[kelly marie]

i'm VERY disappointed..

change=dictatorship... "redistribution of wealth" lol

yesterday on the dave ramsey show they played a clip of a woman who voted for obama.. her words "i'm so excited about obama.. i won't have to pay my mortgage or my car!! i will help him and he will help me!" wtf.. seriously..

not to mention obama's horrific take on aborition.. like mccain said, "life starts at conception"..

there are just so many issues.. i'm scared

ignorance was bliss in this campaign!

[Stormhammer]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/5/6/1/5617f231619cc1e10acf1360430ae682.jpg

[BobbyFresco]

i'm VERY disappointed..

change=dictatorship... "redistribution of wealth" lol

yesterday on the dave ramsey show they played a clip of a woman who voted for obama.. her words "i'm so excited about obama.. i won't have to pay my mortgage or my car!! i will help him and he will help me!" wtf.. seriously..

not to mention obama's horrific take on aborition.. like mccain said, "life starts at conception"..

there are just so many issues.. i'm scared

ignorance was bliss in this campaign!


Hmm. Ignorance truly is bliss, I guess, when you base your opinion on a segment of ppl based on one ignorant person. The irony.


Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when the Supreme Court has determined long ago, when life starts. Can this "life" you and John Mccain claim, live on its own at conception?

Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when you're scared of a new president you haven't given a chance yet, but are totally content with the current presidency.

Oh and let's talk about campaigns. Smear and fear vs one of the best planned and executed campaings, lost you guys the election.

[kelly marie]

Hmm. Ignorance truly is bliss, I guess, when you base your opinion on a segment of ppl based on one ignorant person. The irony.


Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when the Supreme Court has determined long ago, when life starts. Can this "life" you and John Mccain claim, live on its own at conception?

Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when you're scared of a new president you haven't given a chance yet, but are totally content with the current presidency.

Oh and let's talk about campaigns. Smear and fear vs one of the best planned and executed campaings lost you guys the election.
please.. this thread was made for us who don't support obama.. it's our OPINION.. you serioulsy do not need to come in here and try to debate with me.. not only do i not care what you have to say nor do i have the time to argue with you about our future president who has LITTLE TO NO experience. my beliefs are exactly what i stated and you can do with that what you will.

kthx..

[Meso Teggy]

Hmm. Ignorance truly is bliss, I guess, when you base your opinion on a segment of ppl based on one ignorant person. The irony.


Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when the Supreme Court has determined long ago, when life starts. Can this "life" you and John Mccain claim, live on its own at conception?

Ignorance is truly bliss, I guess, when you're scared of a new president you haven't given a chance yet, but are totally content with the current presidency.

Oh and let's talk about campaigns. Smear and fear vs one of the best planned and executed campaings, lost you guys the election.


yep people rather go through the same assfuckery....than give colored guy a chance.....

[Z33_kid]

if mccain addressed the nation and said he would support obama common now people.. give him a chance lets see what he will do first

[4dmin]

i'm not going to get all into this thread b/c everyone wants to toot their own horn...

last two elections i said NO to bush; many on this board elected and debated round and round for him... we are worse off now b/c of him like it or not. mccain would of been a better choice then bush if he was given the chance. unfortunately for rep supporters after 8 years of rep white house and rep majority during most of the administration your party is now in need of a severe overhaul. clinging to age old ideals have lost your party not only the presidency but the senate and possibly a couple justices.

majority of US has spoken and Obama is the president for the next 4 years. after that time you can make a decision on what he has done right/wrong.

[kelly marie]

my opinion is not based on race.. by any means. plus obama is a melting pot of races.. which allows him to reach more people. however, i do not feel he has the experience to do the job as well as mccain could have. also, as stated above, there are several other issues he supports that i am strongly against. i mean even his running mate had some hesitations with the way obama will be able to deal with situations.

we don't have any other choice but to give him a chance so i just hope and pray that he will be able to get through the challenges that come with running this country.

[tony]

my opinion is not based on race.. by any means. plus obama is a melting pot of races.. which allows him to reach more people. however, i do not feel he has the experience to do the job as well as mccain could have. also, as stated above, there are several other issues he supports that i am strongly against. i mean even his running mate had some hesitations with the way obama will be able to deal with situations.



That is valid and cannot be argued, only time will tell.

[BobbyFresco]

please.. this thread was made for us who don't support obama.. it's our OPINION.. you serioulsy do not need to come in here and try to debate with me.. not only do i not care what you have to say nor do i have the time to argue with you about our future president who has LITTLE TO NO experience. my beliefs are exactly what i stated and you can do with that what you will.

kthx..


Spoken like a true bitter loser who has no factual basis for anything she says.

You don't have time to debate but you sure found time to reply with a half assed message though, didn't you?

[BobbyFresco]

Edited for the sake of keeping the peace

[tony]

She has a point Bobby, just like there was a thread made for those who are happy with the results. People here want/need to vent.. let them do so. Nothing that will be said here will change their views immediately.. just give it time.

[BobbyFresco]

She has a point Bobby, just like there was a thread made for those who are happy with the results. People here want/need to vent.. let them do so. Nothing that will be said here will change their views immediately.. just give it time.

Heard.

[Leadfoot_mf]

to me its not about race i would rather have herman cain a million times more then obama. i wish he would of won when he ran for the senate.

[kelly marie]

Spoken like a true bitter loser who has no factual basis for anything she says.

You don't have time to debate but you sure found time to reply with a half assed message though, didn't you?


actually i though my reply was to the point :)

[Nemesis]

actually i though my reply was to the point :)

I concur with you. And honestly, arguing about politics on the internet/at work/ with anyone for that matter is pointless. Its a waste of energy id rather spend elsewhere.

[redrumracer]

LoL about the ignorance in this thread....

We got a new president elected by the american people... If you don't like that well make some adjustments and gtfo the country and move to Canada and mexico and see how well you have it over there..

I'm not afraid to say this country will go in a good direction because there is no way it can get any worse from now and 8 years prior.....

OH YEAH ONE MORE THING......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gif
i didnt support him when he was running and im sure as hell not going to change that now. hell were was the mentality for BUSH? i mean he was president so shouldnt you have supported him equally as well? NO its your personal choice, i fucking hate hypocrites hope yall drown to death cause that is way worse than dieing in a fire.

[redrumracer]

my opinion is not based on race.. by any means. plus obama is a melting pot of races.. which allows him to reach more people. however, i do not feel he has the experience to do the job as well as mccain could have. also, as stated above, there are several other issues he supports that i am strongly against. i mean even his running mate had some hesitations with the way obama will be able to deal with situations.

we don't have any other choice but to give him a chance so i just hope and pray that he will be able to get through the challenges that come with running this country.
he is but he shuns half of his race by only claiming to be one race.

[blackboi50]

u guys act like everybody is gonna die because of taxes!!!......its not gonna make that big of a deal when u look at the big picture!!!! DAMN :eek:....1

[Nemesis]

u guys act like everybody is gonna die because of taxes!!!.


Yeah...thats it...

[Friggintitsman]

I really don't care as long as Bush isn't running our country anymore.

[Friggintitsman]

I'm kind of glad Obama won.... it's one less thing black people can bitch about.

[DJ Maestro]

I'm not worried, I have options. :D

[blackboi50]

I'm kind of glad Obama won.... it's one less thing black people can bitch about.

see there goes ignorance again and that scares me that people still think that way!!!

this aint slave times no more!!! :2cents:....1

[Nemesis]

see there goes ignorance again and that scares me that people still think that way!!!

this aint slave times no more!!! :2cents:....1


But you cant deny the fact that if he lost, it would come up somewhere.....

[redrumracer]

see there goes ignorance again and that scares me that people still think that way!!!

this aint slave times no more!!! :2cents:....1
no but my boss wanted a pet midget, and thinks everyone should have a pet midget. i didnt have the heart to tell her that it was slavery and we already tried that and it didnt work for long.

[Random Hero]

LoL about the ignorance in this thread....

We got a new president elected by the american people... If you don't like that well make some adjustments and gtfo the country and move to Canada and mexico and see how well you have it over there..

I'm not afraid to say this country will go in a good direction because there is no way it can get any worse from now and 8 years prior.....

OH YEAH ONE MORE THING......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/jpicskh1RNbDdAhifPjv.gif

You're a complete idiot.

I agree with change throughout our nation, but let me ask you, why did YOU vote for him? What policies made YOU decide to vote for him?

Telling the people that do not support Obama to leave the country...wow...the balls you have. :lmfao:

[BobbyFresco]

But you cant deny the fact that if he lost, it would come up somewhere.....


It would have, you're right.

At the end of the day, the results were bound to piss people off, regardless of who won.

[Friggintitsman]

But you cant deny the fact that if he lost, it would come up somewhere.....

Troof

I just think it's funny how race was so big in this election. I am in no way for McCain or Obama. I also think it's funny how black people think that having a black president is going to benefit them somehow.


I've already gotten a few text messages today from a some of my black friend gloating about it. :lmfao: Good times

[BobbyFresco]

Troof

I just think it's funny how race was so big in this election. I am in no way for McCain or Obama. I just think it's funny how black people think that having a black president is going to benefit them somehow.


I've already gotten a few text messages today from a some of my black friend gloating about it. :lmfao: Good times




You're going to have your ignorant people who are going to think like that and they are in for a rude awakening. A Black president is historically significant and that's where importance of his race should end.

[ShooterMcGavin]

:yay: for socialism!

[DeutscheBAG!]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/cine7th/bullshit.jpg
my thoughts on some replies in this thread..if your still feel this bitter tomorrow.find me at the V..I like my arguements done face 2 face rather than let me google my political info and let me sound like i actually know something peeps on here

[blackboi50]

But you cant deny the fact that if he lost, it would come up somewhere.....

dude im open-minded as fuck and i know if Obama won Mr fucking Jackson and his negro panthers would be all over white the house like WTF!!!!!

with this election i knew it was gonna come down to this but if McCain won normal working balck people wouldnt be saying shit like

"damn how did this cracker get in"
or
"im moving out of the country because of McCain"
or
" How do i join the balck panther"

just because Obama is black it seems like a lot of people have a problem with it!!!! Once again we are all americans!!! :2cents:....1

[kelly marie]

he is but he shuns half of his race by only claiming to be one race. true and unfortunate..

[blackboi50]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/cine7th/bullshit.jpg
my thoughts on some replies in this thread..if your still feel this bitter tomorrow.find me at the V..I like my arguements done face 2 face rather than let me google my political info and let me sound like i actually know something peeps on here

and imma be right there next to walker!!!! there are some bitter peeps on this forum is all i gotta say!!!.....1

[Friggintitsman]

You're going to have your ignorant people who are going to think like that and they are in for a rude awakening. A Black president is historically significant and that's where importance of his race should end.

Maybe seeing Obama as president will put to rest that whitey can't always keep that black man down. lawl

[blackboi50]

Maybe seeing Obama as president will put to rest that whitey can't always keep that black man down. lawl

i know your joking and all but once again statements like that really make me wonder.....1

[kelly marie]

let's lay down the race card for a few minutes people.. geez

[BobbyFresco]

Maybe seeing Obama as president will put to rest that whitey can't always keep that black man down. lawl



I agree. Completely. And moreso because this man fought real adversity in his lifetime, unlike most young Black ppl of our generation.

However, this is by no means a sign that racism no longer exists.

[blackboi50]

i think imma just stay off IA for a day!!! it really depresses me to see that a forum with people who i have common interests with really have completely differnt views on politics .......and more important views on life!!!!....

pccc yall!!!....1

[patrick4588]

8 out of 10 ppl who voted for obama have no clue what his policies are. and that is not a number i just made up in my room, its the ppl i have talked to that are voting for him. the only thing i hear is "he will change things" and other non sense. obama won because his campaign was well directed at the dumb sheep that are easily guided without having to get any real information. I think you should have to pass some kind of test to vote, not just sign up. Dumb bitches should not have a say so in a political election, much less the presidency. I dont feel like Obama won because more ppl liked his platform and policies, he won because his voters are fucking retarted. I have respect for ppl that actually know Obama's policies and voted for him, everyone is entitled to their opinion; but if you dont have any reason for your opinion; then it shouldnt matter to anyone but you (meaning your retarted ass shouldnt be allowed to vote).

[Friggintitsman]

I agree. Completely. And moreso because this man fought real adversity in his lifetime, unlike most young Black ppl of our generation.

However, this is by no means a sign that racism no longer exists.


As long as we have people of other cultures/color/religion there will always be racism.

I totally agree. Most people now days would rather sit around and bitch about how life sucks and they can't do anything about it than get out there and make it happen for themselves.

One thing people don't understand is how good it is in this country. This is pretty much the only country that you can come from nothing and aspire to be something great. If don't believe it go live in another country for a while. Even in another first world country you will find that whatever social class you were born in 90% of the time you will be in your whole life.

[Friggintitsman]

8 out of 10 ppl who voted for obama have no clue what his policies are. and that is not a number i just made up in my room, its the ppl i have talked to that are voting for him. the only thing i hear is "he will change things" and other non sense. obama won because his campaign was well directed at the dumb sheep that are easily guided without having to get any real information. I think you should have to pass some kind of test to vote, not just sign up. Dumb bitches should not have a say so in a political election, much less the presidency. I dont feel like Obama won because more ppl liked his platform and policies, he won because his voters are fucking retarted. I have respect for ppl that actually know Obama's policies and voted for him, everyone is entitled to their opinion; but if you dont have any reason for your opinion; then it shouldnt matter to anyone but you (meaning your retarted ass shouldnt be allowed to vote).

lol you don't know how right you are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
Proof

[Jaimecbr900]

This is a 100% true story. Stay with me, because this is going be a long but good story.


This morning, when I got to the shop, there was a lady parked all sideways with a stream of antifreeze coming from beneath her car. I parked and walked over. She asked me if I could show her where her oil went. :thinking: Of course I said I would not only show her, but do it for her. As I'm checking over her car, she explains that her car just started running badly and died, so coasted into the lot (which explained her parking prowess:D ). Fine. I check her oil, and it's a quart low. Put the oil in for her and show her where it goes for future reference. Upon further talking, she tried to put antifreeze in herself and spilled it, hence the streat of antifreeze. Fine. When we try to start her car, it won't. Probably due to ignition issues. We offer that she leave her car there and we diagnose/fix the problem AND (after further talking we found out she was on the way to school with her daughter where she is a TEACHER) we would take her to where she was going since she didn't have a ride. She came inside and started giving me all her contact info for the work order. Fine, right? Well, when I informed her of the diagnostic FEE and the procedure that if she got the repairs done we would waive the diagnostic fee and if not she would only owe that fee.......she gave me this blank stare. She then tells me she doesn't have $77 (diagnostic fee). :thinking: :ninja: I guess she thought we'd diagnose, fix, and deliver her car for FREE?????.....:thinking:

Anyway, she calls her husband and he wants to come here to "look at it" and tow it away......last I checked towing costs more than $77, but whatever. Fine.

She then proceeds to ask if we could STILL take her to work......:ninja: I decided to go ahead and do it as the right thing to do, eventhough she's basically just told us to F@#k off AFTER we helped her. Whatever. I crank up the car and take her and her daughter the 6 or so miles to HER work and HER daughter's school. Here is where the story applies to this thread:

During that car ride, I'm making small talk with her and her daughter asking about school and what grade she's in....etc. She then asked me, "what do you think about the election?"........;) :D So I proceeded to tell her that "it is, what it is...." To which she looked at me like I'd just cussed her mother out and said, "so you voted for Mccain????". Ummm, yes, I did as a matter of fact. She then proceeded to rattle off, almost verbatim, that we are "spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq when they have plenty of money and people here are losing their homes...." :rolleyes: So I turned the tables and asked HER, why SHE voted for Obama. She REPEATED the same propaganda infomercial about the 10 billion dollars and actually used the words "we need CHANGE". :eek: :ninja: She tried to turn the tables on me and asked me why I voted for Mccain, to which I rattled off several different reasons from Foreign Policy to Tax policy to stepping across party lines to experience. Yall know what she had to say???? "Well, I just think we need some CHANGE...." :screwy: :ninja: You're kidding me, right? THIS is not only someone that TEACHES young children as an authority figure, she's also a mother, AND voted for Obama????

Yall want to know why Obama won???? It is because there are millions of people just like this lady who have no clue the who, what, and where as to why they voted how they did. I'm not saying that all Obama supporters are like this, especially since we've had some incredibly intelligent discussions in here between both sides. What I am saying is that this morning's situation is a drop in the bucket of how a well designed marketing scheme combined with a biased media then fed to uninformed masses can indeed get you into the White House. Am I bitter? Heck no. It is, what it is. He won, so he's my new President. No big deal. It is, what it is. I'm not bitter at all in all truthfulness.

Moral of this story is that in my eyes this lady represented someone that could serve as the poster child for so many Obama supporters.......

:2cents:

[BobbyFresco]

A lot of bitter people.
All that bitterness and whining is changing things.
Oh wait, it isn't.

[civic95]

I didn't really care for either candidate, but I am kind of happy Obama won. No one has the right to pull the race card anymore. You're not suppressed. You can be anything you want to be (including president), but you have to work for it. No one is going to give it to you, nor do you automatically deserve it. The End! Lets move on now. I don't want to hear what my ancestors did to your ancestors anymore. It wasn't me, and it wasn't you. No one is to blame for your situation but yourself. No one is going to change your life for you, you have to do it. It's a "NEW DAY".

[Jaimecbr900]

8 out of 10 ppl who voted for obama have no clue what his policies are. and that is not a number i just made up in my room, its the ppl i have talked to that are voting for him. the only thing i hear is "he will change things" and other non sense. obama won because his campaign was well directed at the dumb sheep that are easily guided without having to get any real information. I think you should have to pass some kind of test to vote, not just sign up. Dumb bitches should not have a say so in a political election, much less the presidency. I dont feel like Obama won because more ppl liked his platform and policies, he won because his voters are fucking retarted. I have respect for ppl that actually know Obama's policies and voted for him, everyone is entitled to their opinion; but if you dont have any reason for your opinion; then it shouldnt matter to anyone but you (meaning your retarted ass shouldnt be allowed to vote).


No lie......I was typing my response as you posted this.......it's too funny. :goodjob:

[G.C]

This year's election was all fucked up from beginning anyways. At work, i see a lot of black guys wearing "OBAMA" shirt. And i ask them,"Why do you support him?" Most of there responses is somewhat close to this "Because hes Black" bullshit.50-80% of his vote came from ignorant people like that. I'm not saying I'm disappointed he got voted, it just makes me mad that most of these OBAMA supporters don't even take the time to actually know who there voting for.

[BobbyFresco]

Jamie, I respect you and how you presented your sentiments on the situation.

However, one person is not exemplary of the millions who voted for Obama.

[BobbyFresco]

I just want to add also that for every ignorant Obama supporter that can be found, there's an equally ignorant Mccain supporter.

[patrick4588]

This is a 100% true story. Stay with me, because this is going be a long but good story.


This morning, when I got to the shop, there was a lady parked all sideways with a stream of antifreeze coming from beneath her car. I parked and walked over. She asked me if I could show her where her oil went. :thinking: Of course I said I would not only show her, but do it for her. As I'm checking over her car, she explains that her car just started running badly and died, so coasted into the lot (which explained her parking prowess:D ). Fine. I check her oil, and it's a quart low. Put the oil in for her and show her where it goes for future reference. Upon further talking, she tried to put antifreeze in herself and spilled it, hence the streat of antifreeze. Fine. When we try to start her car, it won't. Probably due to ignition issues. We offer that she leave her car there and we diagnose/fix the problem AND (after further talking we found out she was on the way to school with her daughter where she is a TEACHER) we would take her to where she was going since she didn't have a ride. She came inside and started giving me all her contact info for the work order. Fine, right? Well, when I informed her of the diagnostic FEE and the procedure that if she got the repairs done we would waive the diagnostic fee and if not she would only owe that fee.......she gave me this blank stare. She then tells me she doesn't have $77 (diagnostic fee). :thinking: :ninja: I guess she thought we'd diagnose, fix, and deliver her car for FREE?????.....:thinking:

Anyway, she calls her husband and he wants to come here to "look at it" and tow it away......last I checked towing costs more than $77, but whatever. Fine.

She then proceeds to ask if we could STILL take her to work......:ninja: I decided to go ahead and do it as the right thing to do, eventhough she's basically just told us to F@#k off AFTER we helped her. Whatever. I crank up the car and take her and her daughter the 6 or so miles to HER work and HER daughter's school. Here is where the story applies to this thread:

During that car ride, I'm making small talk with her and her daughter asking about school and what grade she's in....etc. She then asked me, "what do you think about the election?"........;) :D So I proceeded to tell her that "it is, what it is...." To which she looked at me like I'd just cussed her mother out and said, "so you voted for Mccain????". Ummm, yes, I did as a matter of fact. She then proceeded to rattle off, almost verbatim, that we are "spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq when they have plenty of money and people here are losing their homes...." :rolleyes: So I turned the tables and asked HER, why SHE voted for Obama. She REPEATED the same propaganda infomercial about the 10 billion dollars and actually used the words "we need CHANGE". :eek: :ninja: She tried to turn the tables on me and asked me why I voted for Mccain, to which I rattled off several different reasons from Foreign Policy to Tax policy to stepping across party lines to experience. Yall know what she had to say???? "Well, I just think we need some CHANGE...." :screwy: :ninja: You're kidding me, right? THIS is not only someone that TEACHES young children as an authority figure, she's also a mother, AND voted for Obama????

Yall want to know why Obama won???? It is because there are millions of people just like this lady who have no clue the who, what, and where as to why they voted how they did. I'm not saying that all Obama supporters are like this, especially since we've had some incredibly intelligent discussions in here between both sides. What I am saying is that this morning's situation is a drop in the bucket of how a well designed marketing scheme combined with a biased media then fed to uninformed masses can indeed get you into the White House. Am I bitter? Heck no. It is, what it is. He won, so he's my new President. No big deal. It is, what it is. I'm not bitter at all in all truthfulness.

Moral of this story is that in my eyes this lady represented someone that could serve as the poster child for so many Obama supporters.......

:2cents:

wow. good shit. like i said...8 out of 10. fucking retarted.

[Friggintitsman]

No lie......I was typing my response as you posted this.......it's too funny. :goodjob:

You need to click that link on I just posted. This was on the Howard Stern show.

[The Ren]

Exactly my point jaime.. too many people were basing the vote for obama on Change or hes black.. or anything BUT his policies.. Im not saying EVERYONE who voted for Obama is that way.. just alot.

He has four years to prove himself to the nation that elected him, and that will determine if all these people WHO WANT OR NEED CHANGE made the right decision.

[Ran]

I didn't really care for either candidate, but I am kind of happy Obama won. No one has the right to pull the race card anymore. You're not suppressed. You can be anything you want to be (including president), but you have to work for it. No one is going to give it to you, nor do you automatically deserve it. The End! Lets move on now. I don't want to hear what my ancestors did to your ancestors anymore. It wasn't me, and it wasn't you. No one is to blame for your situation but yourself. No one is going to change your life for you, you have to do it. It's a "NEW DAY".THANK YOU!!!

[BobbyFresco]

This year's election was all fucked up from beginning anyways. At work, i see a lot of black guys wearing "OBAMA" shirt. And i ask them,"Why do you support him?" Most of there responses is somewhat close to this "Because hes Black" bullshit.50-80% of his vote came from ignorant people like that. I'm not saying I'm disappointed he got voted, it just makes me mad that most of these OBAMA supporters don't even take the time to actually know who there voting for.


Race did play a part in this and that's undeniable and however asinine it may seem, it's human nature.

Take for instance, you're Asain.

Had there been an Asian candidate, it's safe to say he or she would get overwhelming support from the Asian community. That's a fact.

Also, the Black vote doesn't account significantly for Obama winning the votes in states significantly populated by Whites.

[Friggintitsman]

Jamie, I respect you and how you presented your sentiments on the situation.

However, one person is not exemplary of the millions who voted for Obama.

No, but I'm sure several million voters had no idea what Obama was about. They just voted because he was Democrat/black/Not McCain or whatever reason. They probably had no idea what he was about.

I do not follow politics and by that I feel that I should not vote. So I don't plain and simple. Maybe that is foolish of me, but I just don't care enough about it.

[patrick4588]

lol you don't know how right you are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
Proof

LMFAO. WOW. PPL FAIL

[patrick4588]

friggintitsman i agree with you. if you dont know what is going on, dont vote. thank you for that; if only the other uninformed followed suit!

[BobbyFresco]

No, but I'm sure several million voters had no idea what Obama was about. They just voted because he was Democrat/black/Not McCain or whatever reason. They probably had no idea what he was about.

I do not follow politics and by that I feel that I should not vote. So I don't plain and simple. Maybe that is foolish of me, but I just don't care enough about it.


So are you suggesting that every person who voted for Mccain did so for all the right, non superficial reasons?

People are putting so much emphasis on the Black vote getting Obama elected that they seem to miss that Blacks alone didn't get the job done and that people voted for Mccain for any number of reasons that didn't involve his platform.

[The Ren]

I didn't really care for either candidate, but I am kind of happy Obama won. No one has the right to pull the race card anymore. You're not suppressed. You can be anything you want to be (including president), but you have to work for it. No one is going to give it to you, nor do you automatically deserve it. The End! Lets move on now. I don't want to hear what my ancestors did to your ancestors anymore. It wasn't me, and it wasn't you. No one is to blame for your situation but yourself. No one is going to change your life for you, you have to do it. It's a "NEW DAY".


But its done everyday unfortunately... From blacks to Hispanics to jews.. Until racism is abolished.. the race card will always be there

[BobbyFresco]

But its done everyday unfortunately... From blacks to Hispanics to jews.. Until racism is abolished.. the race card will always be there


Jews a race? Really?
And Whites never pull the race card? Never? Really?

[Dirty Octopus™]

honestly he is going to get shot, so im not that upset.

i fucking hate hypocrites hope yall drown to death cause that is way worse than dieing in a fire.
why are you so evil? :(

he is but he shuns half of his race by only claiming to be one race.
i beg to differ. he's stated that being dark in complexion thats all people see. how can he NOT identify with his White half? he was raised by the white side of his family. but in the eye of the public he appears to be simply lightskinned. if anything THE PUBLIC shuns his other half. NOT him

[Friggintitsman]

So are you suggesting that every person who voted for Mccain did so for all the right, non superficial reasons?

People are putting so much emphasis on the Black vote getting Obama elected that they seem to miss that Blacks alone didn't get the job done and that people voted for Mccain for any number of reasons that didn't involve his platform.

No not at all. I'm sure people that voted for McCain probably had just as dumb ass asinine reasons for doing it, when they had no clue what he was about. I was just making a statement in opposition to yours. You said one person and it's no doubt that it was probably several if not in the millions.

[twinj]

8 out of 10 ppl who voted for obama/McCain have no clue what his policies are.
Fixed. That can go both ways.

[Friggintitsman]

redrumracer he is but he shuns half of his race by only claiming to be one race.


Dude anyone that is half anything should know that if you are not all white (appear white) you are not white at all.

And if you are mixed with black no matter how diluted if you have the traits you are still black. Sad but true

[BobbyFresco]

Dude anyone that is half anything should know that if you are not all white (appear white) you are not white at all.

And if you are mixed with black no matter how diluted if you have the traits you are still black. Sad but true



You mean you know what logic is? and you use it? Well god damn!!!

Oh and he was raised by his White relatives. And with the exception of having lived and worked in Chicago, his life experiences and exposure is not comparable to that of an average Black American.
How's that for shunning?

[4dmin]

This is a 100% true story. Stay with me, because this is going be a long but good story.


This morning, when I got to the shop, there was a lady parked all sideways with a stream of antifreeze coming from beneath her car. I parked and walked over. She asked me if I could show her where her oil went. :thinking: Of course I said I would not only show her, but do it for her. As I'm checking over her car, she explains that her car just started running badly and died, so coasted into the lot (which explained her parking prowess:D ). Fine. I check her oil, and it's a quart low. Put the oil in for her and show her where it goes for future reference. Upon further talking, she tried to put antifreeze in herself and spilled it, hence the streat of antifreeze. Fine. When we try to start her car, it won't. Probably due to ignition issues. We offer that she leave her car there and we diagnose/fix the problem AND (after further talking we found out she was on the way to school with her daughter where she is a TEACHER) we would take her to where she was going since she didn't have a ride. She came inside and started giving me all her contact info for the work order. Fine, right? Well, when I informed her of the diagnostic FEE and the procedure that if she got the repairs done we would waive the diagnostic fee and if not she would only owe that fee.......she gave me this blank stare. She then tells me she doesn't have $77 (diagnostic fee). :thinking: :ninja: I guess she thought we'd diagnose, fix, and deliver her car for FREE?????.....:thinking:

Anyway, she calls her husband and he wants to come here to "look at it" and tow it away......last I checked towing costs more than $77, but whatever. Fine.

She then proceeds to ask if we could STILL take her to work......:ninja: I decided to go ahead and do it as the right thing to do, eventhough she's basically just told us to F@#k off AFTER we helped her. Whatever. I crank up the car and take her and her daughter the 6 or so miles to HER work and HER daughter's school. Here is where the story applies to this thread:

During that car ride, I'm making small talk with her and her daughter asking about school and what grade she's in....etc. She then asked me, "what do you think about the election?"........;) :D So I proceeded to tell her that "it is, what it is...." To which she looked at me like I'd just cussed her mother out and said, "so you voted for Mccain????". Ummm, yes, I did as a matter of fact. She then proceeded to rattle off, almost verbatim, that we are "spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq when they have plenty of money and people here are losing their homes...." :rolleyes: So I turned the tables and asked HER, why SHE voted for Obama. She REPEATED the same propaganda infomercial about the 10 billion dollars and actually used the words "we need CHANGE". :eek: :ninja: She tried to turn the tables on me and asked me why I voted for Mccain, to which I rattled off several different reasons from Foreign Policy to Tax policy to stepping across party lines to experience. Yall know what she had to say???? "Well, I just think we need some CHANGE...." :screwy: :ninja: You're kidding me, right? THIS is not only someone that TEACHES young children as an authority figure, she's also a mother, AND voted for Obama????

Yall want to know why Obama won???? It is because there are millions of people just like this lady who have no clue the who, what, and where as to why they voted how they did. I'm not saying that all Obama supporters are like this, especially since we've had some incredibly intelligent discussions in here between both sides. What I am saying is that this morning's situation is a drop in the bucket of how a well designed marketing scheme combined with a biased media then fed to uninformed masses can indeed get you into the White House. Am I bitter? Heck no. It is, what it is. He won, so he's my new President. No big deal. It is, what it is. I'm not bitter at all in all truthfulness.

Moral of this story is that in my eyes this lady represented someone that could serve as the poster child for so many Obama supporters.......

:2cents:

i agree with you and only time will tell. we had many bush discusses prior to this in previous election. Reps have failed to connect w/ the majority of the US. However you want to dissect that go ahead. McCain had to face America for his party and Bush failed service. People are tied of their current situations and want to believe in something... not saying its right or wrong but it is what it is.

He now has 4 years to prove right/wrong, but I don't feel the people voting are any dumbing then the ones that put Bush in office for 2 terms. People seem to forget Christians were what put him over the top last go around. I guess peoples check books beat out Jesus this time ;)

[Sport1.3]

- black listener on the Bert Show


Listener: " i cant believe you guys just cant be thankful and happy that we will now have our first African American president"

Jeff: “I’m very excited that i live in a country that could elect its first black candidate, but i just dont think he is qualified and many ppl were dooped into voting for him"

Listener: " Dooped!? i Take offense to that.....calling someone stupid for voting for Obama.......how can you say that when your Candidate, senator McCain Has been to Jail!! JAIL JEFF!!.....so they can just let anyone be president now!"

Jeff: Dooped doesn’t mean “stupid”......wait.......Jail?.................... .. ...are you referring to POW? ........ok I’ve had enough with this lady........bye *click*....now that is an example of stupidity people"



Then they proceeded to take a phone interview with Tyler Perry a very well known and influential Producer/screen writer/director etc

The guy is 39 yrs old and it was his first time voting, because he feels like his vote and I quote “Will Actually mean something this year”

he obviously voted Obama, then proceeds to talk about how " he didn’t know he had to make 30 more votes that day, and just voted democrat down the line" the chick host on the radio was already crying out of frustration at the stupidity they had already dealt with before hand....but lost it here... balling over the radio trying to tell this man how much of a fucking moron he was …..its sad how much of an influence this mans opinion made to other potential voters





This is not just ONE person making this example....its everywhere. I'm not saying there aren’t ill informed white voters out there only voting for ______, because said person is of that same color.....but in EVERY discussion I have even witnessed or been involved in I have seen race/color involved. Fact is, a HUGE percentage voted for Obama simply because he was black, many voting for the first time in their life.......while most knowing little to nothing about his political agenda

I did not vote McCain either.......

[Nemesis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_t2KAT1Sk


lulz

[Lizbiz101]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I think people shouldn't continue to be upset that Obama won, the fact of the matter is, he is your pres. now and you just got to respect that. Hopefully he can prove himself to everyone that doubted him.

[Friggintitsman]

You mean you know what logic is? and you use it? Well god damn!!!

Oh and he was raised by his White relatives. And with the exception of having lived and worked in Chicago, his life experiences and exposure is not comparable to that of an average Black American.
How's that for shunning?


lol I applaud you sir. Though people don't see that, only the color of his skin. The good number of people probably have no idea what Obama's background is.

[BobbyFresco]

Should I start splitting hairs by posting ignorant examples of White Mccain supporters?
I mean, seriously.

We get it. People are ignorant. On both sides. Every race, color, ethnicity, culture, and religion.




What about all the people that voted for Mccain because Obama is the Anti-Christ?
Or because he's Black?
Or because his name is different and so therefore he must be a terrorist?
Or because he's Muslim?
Or because he's going to take your hard earned 15k a year and give it to poor people that sit on their asses and collect wellfare?

Give me a break w/ all this.

It is what it is.
Be as upset as you want about it. You have that right.
Won't change anything though.

[redrumracer]

why are you so evil? :(

i beg to differ. he's stated that being dark in complexion thats all people see. how can he NOT identify with his White half? he was raised by the white side of his family. but in the eye of the public he appears to be simply lightskinned. if anything THE PUBLIC shuns his other half. NOT him
he officially has declared himself black, i have had this same argument that he was of mixed racial background before with the idiots of wikipedia, and they pointed out were he claimed his blackness, but i cant log back into my acct to get those sources for you cause they have banned me.


oh and i dont think im evil. ;)

[tony]

he officially has declared himself black, i have had this same argument that he was of mixed racial background before with the idiots of wikipedia, and they pointed out were he claimed his blackness, but i cant log back into my acct to get those sources for you cause they have banned me.


oh and i dont think im evil. ;)


I would've banned you too, who are you to declare his ethnicity? I have a woman in my Spanish class who looks like Katherine Heigl (sp) Blonde and white as can be but she claims to be dominican. Give it up, the man is black.

[redrumracer]

Should I start splitting hairs by posting ignorant examples of White Mccain supporters?
I mean, seriously.

We get it. People are ignorant. On both sides. Every race, color, ethnicity, culture, and religion.




What about all the people that voted for Mccain because Obama is the Anti-Christ?
Or because he's Black?
Or because his name is different and so therefore he must be a terrorist?
Or because he's Muslim?
Or because he's going to take your hard earned 15k a year and give it to poor people that sit on their asses and collect wellfare?

Give me a break w/ all this.

It is what it is.
Be as upset as you want about it. You have that right.
Won't change anything though.
yes give very specific examples. exact situations that have been demonstrated. please do.

[redrumracer]

I would've banned you too, who are you to declare his ethnicity? I have a woman in my Spanish class who looks like Katherine Heigl (sp) Blonde and white as can be but she claims to be dominican. Give it up, the man is black.
because he has a white mom and a black dad, therefore empirical evidence PROVES he is bi racial. the evidence gives me that power.

[Sport1.3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_t2KAT1Sk


lulz


More like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffh9xDf2S9c


:rolleyes:

[tony]

because he has a white mom and a black dad, therefore empirical evidence PROVES he is bi racial. the evidence gives me that power.

His mother and his father is none of your concern, that man's ethnicity is what he claims it to be.. not what you deem it.

[patrick4588]

what? alright well shit both my parents are white, but fuck it.... im black. no. doesnt work that way.

[redrumracer]

His mother and his father is none of your concern, that man's ethnicity is what he claims it to be.. not what you deem it.
no the man ethnicity is based off of what his parents ARE. and by what your saying if i want t be black i can? even tho both of my parents are white and of European descent

his mom was white

his dad was black

that makes him mixed, nothing else.

[90_ACCORD]

ill admit it im upset

[Friggintitsman]

His mother and his father is none of your concern, that man's ethnicity is what he claims it to be.. not what you deem it.

In that case from this point on I'm Eskimo.

[tony]

no the man ethnicity is based off of what his parents ARE. and by what your saying if i want t be black i can? even tho both of my parents are white and of European descent

his mom was white

his dad was black

that makes him mixed, nothing else.

Was J. Edgar Hoover white? Just curious.

If you're black, go ahead.. I had a couple of friends growing up, pale as can be, blue eyes who claimed to be black because of their ancestry.

[Nemesis]

More like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffh9xDf2S9c


:rolleyes:



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Mine too! What a coincidence. Is there ANYTHING niggaz can't do? Damn



:no: :rolleyes:

[redrumracer]

Was J. Edgar Hoover white? Just curious.

If you're black, go ahead.. I had a couple of friends growing up, pale as can be, blue eyes who claimed to be black because of their ancestry.
what was his parent? white, black, both? answer that and you will have your answer.

[Sport1.3]

His mother and his father is none of your concern, that man's ethnicity is what he claims it to be.. not what you deem it.


My great, great grandfather was 100% Cheyenna Indian ( Native American)......you tell that to the Board of education when i fill out my grant/scholorship paperwork. If thats the case i should have no issues if i just Claim that as an ethnicity, right?

[Friggintitsman]

My great, great grandfather was 100% Cheyenna Indian ( Native American)......you tell that to the Board of education when i fill out my grant/scholorship paperwork. If thats the case i should have no issues if i just Claim that as an ethnicity, right?

LOL yeah and if I find a black ex slave in my family tree I want my reparations.

[BobbyFresco]

yes give very specific examples. exact situations that have been demonstrated. please do.


Here you go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIY5lqi0eXQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9ycxaKTeY&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_VgZF9vzOI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYwsM17a2M&feature=related



Should I keep going?

[4dmin]

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2008/db081105.gif

lol i figured i would have a laugh at the ethnicity garbage.

[patrick4588]

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Mine too! What a coincidence. Is there ANYTHING niggaz can't do? Damn









lirl

[redrumracer]

Here you go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIY5lqi0eXQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9ycxaKTeY&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_VgZF9vzOI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYwsM17a2M&feature=related



Should I keep going?
yes

[BobbyFresco]

what was his parent? white, black, both? answer that and you will have your answer.


Nevermind the "one drop rule" which surely you are well versed in, that by a White man's standards dictates that he is Black.

If he was a criminal of some sort, I'm sure you wouldn't be so quick to try to debunk this.

[tony]

what was his parent? white, black, both? answer that and you will have your answer.

If you knew about him you wouldnt have answered my question with.. a question. He's a pretty significant figure in history, I'm disappointed.

J. Edgar Hoover claimed to be white, absolutely hated Martin Luther King Jr. but he denied the heritage of his biological father who was black. It is his right to do so but its just another example that your heritage is not subject to perception.. it is what you deem it to be.

Giselle claims to be brazillian but has parents of German descent due to the part of Brazil she is from.. is she German because you say so?

Either way, this is dumb and my last reply on the subject.

[BobbyFresco]

yes

:rolleyes:

I'm starting to question your reasoning and logic capabilities.

[Friggintitsman]

Here you go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIY5lqi0eXQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9ycxaKTeY&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_VgZF9vzOI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYwsM17a2M&feature=related



Should I keep going?

lawl

Check mate, I didn't think this would be hard to find.

[redrumracer]

If you knew about him you wouldnt have answered my question with.. a question. He's a pretty significant figure in history, I'm disappointed.

J. Edgar Hoover claimed to be white, absolutely hated Martin Luther King Jr. but he denied the heritage of his biological father who was black. It is his right to do so but its just another example that your heritage is not subject to perception.. it is what you deem it to be.

Giselle claims to be brazillian but has parents of German descent due to the part of Brazil she is from.. is she German because you say so?

Either way, this is dumb and my last reply on the subject.
yea i didnt feel like looking into his heritage cause i was pretty sure you know the answer already but then yes even if he denies his fathers heritage then he is still mixed. and no if her parents are from brazil then you have your answer there.

and even if obama had committed a crime i would still have the same views on his ethnicity, what he does doesnt change that.

[redrumracer]

:rolleyes:

I'm starting to question your reasoning and logic capabilities.
na i just wanted to see if you would go look for more. there was no logic behind the yes lol

[Ran]

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2008/db081105.gif

lol i figured i would have a laugh at the ethnicity garbage. :lmao:

[BobbyFresco]

lawl

Check mate, I didn't think this would be hard to find.


One day, you and I need to hang out and have some drinks..:cheers:

[patrick4588]

there is no doubt that ignorant voters are everywhere and on both sides, but i believe the majority of obama's voters were uneducated on his policies. McCain may have his ignorant group as well, but its much smaller.

[Jaimecbr900]

Jamie, I respect you and how you presented your sentiments on the situation.

However, one person is not exemplary of the millions who voted for Obama.

If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.

This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......;) Put two and two together.

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators????? :rolleyes:

Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......:rolleyes:

[redrumracer]

there is no doubt that ignorant voters are everywhere and on both sides, but i believe the majority of obama's voters were uneducated on his policies. McCain may have his ignorant group as well, but its much smaller.
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[patrick4588]

dude i totally agree. i have been saying we need a test for years. it will never happen though. i like the driving license comparison.

[tony]

Funny, cause when you look at the exit polls those that voted for Obama were more likely to have a Bachelors degree. You really think those rural voters could pass a voting test?

Anywho, can I also say that those people who say they're not going to work any more due to Obama were already LAZY ASSES and didn't need Obama to bring it out of them. Just an observation.

[BobbyFresco]

If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.

This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......;) Put two and two together.

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators????? :rolleyes:

Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......:rolleyes:




It extends to more than the election though.
Education should be of more significance than it presently is, in all aspects.
As a nation, I believe that we fall behind academically among countries of similar profile.

[Ran]

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators????? :rolleyes:That's a CHANGE WE NEED. :goodjob:


As a nation, I believe that we fall behind academically among countries of similar profile.Fall behind? We don't just fall behind. We don't even get off the bench.

Also, you don't need that many color codes. Type your post, highlight all of it and just add one code. lol

[Friggintitsman]

One day, you and I need to hang out and have some drinks..:cheers:

Fo sho

[Friggintitsman]

If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.

This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......;) Put two and two together.

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators????? :rolleyes:

Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......:rolleyes:

idiocracy.org

[Sport1.3]

"I really hope blacks get off their collective lazy asses and the excuses stop but I doubt it as the poor ones will always be stuck bathing in ignorance, I hope whites start realizing that skin color does not make a person but again the poor will always breed in their own ignorance"

- Realist Black man i know

[patrick4588]

Anywho, can I also say that those people who say they're not going to work any more due to Obama were already LAZY ASSES and didn't need Obama to bring it out of them. Just an observation.

true, but now being lazy comes with benefits and possibly life insurance! severly exxagerated but you get the point

[HalfBaked]

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted.

Didn't they try that a long time ago? And it was deemed racist?

[patrick4588]

"I really hope blacks get off their collective lazy asses and the excuses stop but I doubt it as the poor ones will always be stuck bathing in ignorance, I hope whites start realizing that skin color does not make a person but again the poor will always breed in their own ignorance"

- Realist Black man i know

good quote

[patrick4588]

Didn't they try that a long time ago? And it was deemed racist?

because blacks back then didnt have the access to education they do now. its an entirely different era. get real

[BobbyFresco]

"I really hope blacks get off their collective lazy asses and the excuses stop but I doubt it as the poor ones will always be stuck bathing in ignorance, I hope whites start realizing that skin color does not make a person but again the poor will always breed in their own ignorance"

- Realist Black man i know



QFT

[Ran]

Didn't they try that a long time ago? And it was deemed racist?True, but I believe that was also during a time when the education system was still segregated and the "colored folk" didn't have a real chance to properly inform themselves in the required areas. Things are a bit different now and I think it's time to give it another shot.

[HalfBaked]

because blacks back then didnt have the access to education they do now. its an entirely different era. get real
I was mostly sarcastic in that post.

Obama wouldn't want to pass a law that requires the majority of the people who voted for him to have to pass a test.

[BobbyFresco]

True, but I believe that was also during a time when the education system was still segregated and the "colored folk" didn't have a real chance to properly inform themselves in the required areas. Things are a bit different now and I think it's time to give it another shot.


A lot of uneducated Whites wouldn't be able to vote as well.
and Asians.
and Hispanics. etc.

I've know ppl that have degrees that have no concept of politics or current events so yea. That notion makes zero sense.

[Ran]

A lot of uneducated Whites wouldn't be able to vote as well.
and Asians.
and Hispanics. etc.

I've knoen ppl that have degrees that have no concept of politics or current events so yea. That notion makes zero sense.It makes perfect sense. I didn't say just test black people. Give EVERYONE a test on general political knowledge and the policies being covered. This will root out general ignorance no matter what their ethnicity.

[DeutscheBAG!]

If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.

This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......;) Put two and two together.

I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators????? :rolleyes:

Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......:rolleyes:

i could say the same about some McCain supporters that fed into all that scare tactic bullshit..calling him a terrorists best friend, and being muslim(Amazing how being muslim makes you a terrorists and a bad person in the eyes of a good majority of americans..I'm glad Yousef hasn't been alienated yet by some of you jackasses....
In this day,it seems people would rather size up the candidate by his followers/fan club rather than the candidate himself..and that applies to both parties..

and Jamie, i'm kind of surprised at ya dude..You know education in this country was already a joke long before Obama/McCain started running..American kids/students are dumb as a whole...THey know more about whose winning on American Idol rather than actual issues going on in the world..Let alone our own friggin backyard

[AirMax95]

Wow, just WOW at this thread, lol.

I cannot even forumlate the response that I want, because articulating it on a web forum is pointless.

Some of the comments here are outrageous!

Lol @ BobbyFresh in regards to Obama's ethnicity/race/color. If Obama were to commit a major crime right now, ALL OF AMERICA would consider him a black man. Now that he is the President elect, he is bi-racial, lol. Fucking America.

I TRULY hope that many of the responses in this thread are ignorant due to anger, not real feelings.

Spews, no particular order, rather discuss in person:
-61% + of the vote for Obama was white
-Black radio really doesn't care to make an ass of the ignorant white voters BECAUSE WE DONT CARE!
-Caramel complexion in the White House scares many White people b/c Obama IS NOT YOUR PUPPET. He has different views that are not the norm and you can't accept it!
-Obama does not SHUN is caucasian roots, he is doing what AMERICA has always done....base him off the color of his skin. Funny how angry you are now, lol!
-The more you keep complaining about him, the faster you will age. He is the next President so calm the fuck down.
-If you want to move to Canada GTFO, one less closed minded "I hate America now" person to listen to.
-It seems that slavery and racism is a joke to many of the IA posters in this thread/fourm. That is why I personally dislike this forum sometimes (pwease don't ban me, love youse guys, lol).
-Several republicans stated that their party is out of touch for America. They realize that this is their wakeup call to FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE AGAIN.
-Bush was not that bad, he had A LOT on his plate. Grant it, some decisions were questionable, but he did it and its done. No President will be perfect, either they make a bad choice politically or personally.
-Give Obama a chance to a the LEAST shift the ideals of this country back to what our founders "somewhat" built this country on.
-His ideas will spark more out of the box thinking to restore the old America.
-Obama admitted himself that EVERYTHING will not change in 4 years, mabye not even 8, but strides in a better direction is what we need.

Respect is given to Jamie, RedGT, Mike and a few other opposers. They post quality things that are actually worth debating and thinking about. The rest of you yuppies that post crap......unplug your keyboard.

I struggle posting here in regards to politics. I LOVE to debate, but can't get my point across on the web, lol.

This post probably will not get read due to the length :(

[Jaimecbr900]

dude i totally agree. i have been saying we need a test for years. it will never happen though. i like the driving license comparison.

Ironically enough, we make people pass a test BEFORE we call them "citizens" only to let them vote in the next election w/o checking to see if they know what they're doing.....:thinking: Hmmm, how's that work again??? :D


Funny, cause when you look at the exit polls those that voted for Obama were more likely to have a Bachelors degree. You really think those rural voters could pass a voting test?
Tony, you know I have nothing but respect for you, but SHOW me where you're getting that "data" from. Because in all honesty and like I said above, 95% of all Obama supporters that I have directly spoken to, I see it totally different.

BTW, if a person couldn't pass a basic knowledge test before voting, then they SHOULD NOT VOTE IMO. Period. I don't care if they are White, Green, Yellow, Black, or Blue. I don't care where they live, how much money they make, or how many degrees they have. If someone can't answer correctly that there are 50 states and 100 Senators, then you have NO BUSINESS voting. Right or wrong?

Let me give you an example:

My grandmother had no more than a basic education. She never worked outside the home. She was married for over 50 yrs to the same man, my Grandfather, when she passed. She raised 5 children of her own, 4 children she took in as her own, and 19 Grandchildren with a couple Great grandchildren sprinkled in there for good measure. To say she was wise would be putting it mildly. She was brilliant. She didn't get that from school. She got it from living life.

Now, with that said and in mind.......just because she could mix a hellva "hot tottie" and make us all feel better when we were sick.......does that give her the right to march into an operating room and perform surgery????? Why not? She was the best doctor we knew. She could mix and throw together freaking rocks and daisies and make us some kind of drink to make us feel better. Does that make her a Dr.? Why not?

Well, use that analogy with the American voter. You can have both ends of the spectrum. You can have Dr's that are dumb as a box of rocks and some little old lady that is 10x's smarter than he is at everything else in life. WHO do you want casting that ballot? The Dr. who is only thinking about who is going to help HIM and HIS business??? Or that little old lady that probably would think about everyone else first??? If she passes the test and the Dr. doesn't......why would that be such a bad thing that she vote and he not?

The bottomline is that a good amount of people casting ballots couldn't tell you why they just pressed the button any more than the man on the moon. Nothing wrong with that???? I beg to differ.

[mmmmpsi]

Obama FTL...let's hope Congress keeps him in check.

Nice Car Man, that thing is hot!!

Oh and as I said in my other threads..

Welcome to socialism.. hope you enjoy it! :crazy:

[The Ren]

Jews a race? Really?
And Whites never pull the race card? Never? Really?

I never said that.. and even though jews arnt a race.. we've had our issues about being hated on and shit too.. You act like I feel like im supreme cause Im white... I never said that.. how about you read what im trying to say instead of jumping down my throat

[Ran]

This post probably will not get read due to the length :(To be honest, I read it and I sense a lot of anger. A few things though;

- I personally don't give a sh*t about Obama's race, but his views on healthcare and the like worry me.
- He is still a puppet for his party. He may not be a white puppet, but he's still a puppet.
- Might as well joke about slavery and racism. If not then it'll get taken too seriously and, let's face it, nobody wants that. Roll with the punches man.
- I'll give Obama a chance but, with a Democratic Congress behind him, I can't say that I think the changes will be for the better. Time will tell.

:)

[DeutscheBAG!]

Wow, just WOW at this thread, lol.

-The more you keep complaining about him, the faster you will age. He is the next President so calm the fuck down.
-If you want to move to Canada GTFO, one less closed minded "I hate America now" person to listen to.
-It seems that slavery and racism is a joke to many of the IA posters in this thread/fourm. That is why I personally dislike this forum sometimes (pwease don't ban me, love youse guys, lol).
-Several republicans stated that their party is out of touch for America. They realize that this is their wakeup call to FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE AGAIN.
.
-Give Obama a chance to a the LEAST shift the ideals of this country back to what our founders "somewhat" built this country on.
-His ideas will spark more out of the box thinking to restore the old America.
-Obama admitted himself that EVERYTHING will not change in 4 years, mabye not even 8, but strides in a better direction is what we need.

This post probably will not get read due to the length :(

you cats prob wont even notice a damn difference, so hush up and continue living your daily life. its not like you making huge monies and about to get some of that taken away from you. crap im assuming most of you make less than $12/hour so keep living the same life you do know and stop saying your moving out of the country because you prob dont have enough money to buy a plane ticket out of this country lol

[tony]

Tony, you know I have nothing but respect for you, but SHOW me where you're getting that "data" from. Because in all honesty and like I said above, 95% of all Obama supporters that I have directly spoken to, I see it totally different.

.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/

50 states of exit polls, yes I'm a nerd. You're speaking to the wrong supporters, but then again some people don't dig down into politics and just go for the candidate that inspires them or exudes leadership.

[AirMax95]

Jamie, I get your point completely. Honeslty I agree, but to go even further, we need to educate people also. I volunteer locally for different events and organizations. The one thing that I have not seen is a class/course on politics. It would be awesome to a few professors, politicians, even normal people who know their stuff have educational seminars.

It could even be sponsored by local politicans, EVEN the damn parties!

I am going to get to work on this today, making an email to a contact now!

[BobbyFresco]

you cats prob wont even notice a damn difference, so hush up and continue living your daily life. its not like you making huge monies and about to get some of that taken away from you. crap im assuming most of you make less than $12/hour so keep living the same life you do know and stop saying your moving out of the country because you prob dont have enough money to buy a plane ticket out of this country lol


You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.

[Sport1.3]

Jamie, I get your point completely. Honeslty I agree, but to go even further, we need to educate people also. I volunteer locally for different events and organizations. The one thing that I have not seen is a class/course on politics. It would be awesome to a few professors, politicians, even normal people who know their stuff have educational seminars.

It could even be sponsored by local politicans, EVEN the damn parties!

I am going to get to work on this today, making an email to a contact now!


WHen i was in HS Economics, Government and political Science were all required courses

has that changed?

[Sport1.3]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.


weath trickles down. What hurts those 250K business owners, eventually hurts those working for them. Its simple really

[Ran]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.What about those of us planning on opening a business? Are we allowed to b*tch? :D

[AirMax95]

To be honest, I read it and I sense a lot of anger. A few things though;

- I personally don't give a sh*t about Obama's race, but his views on healthcare and the like worry me.
- He is still a puppet for his party. He may not be a white puppet, but he's still a puppet.
- Might as well joke about slavery and racism. If not then it'll get taken too seriously and, let's face it, nobody wants that. Roll with the punches man.
- I'll give Obama a chance but, with a Democratic Congress behind him, I can't say that I think the changes will be for the better. Time will tell.

:)

Frustration more than anger

-I commend you on the first bullet, though many people will type it, but don't me a damn keystroke.
-I agree with you on the second bullet, but he is not going to be easily swayed IMO.
-Joking about slavery/racism is not something that I can agree with. I am opened-minded beyon belief, but there are too many racist and bigots out there that make me want to punch them. I interact with the community alot and refuse to let those notions continue to get swept under the rug.
-I agree again!

[Jaimecbr900]

and Jamie, i'm kind of surprised at ya dude..You know education in this country was already a joke long before Obama/McCain started running..American kids/students are dumb as a whole...THey know more about whose winning on American Idol rather than actual issues going on in the world..Let alone our own friggin backyard

You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft.....:ninja: :lmfao: JP.

I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then???? ;)

You still my boy blue. ;)

[BobbyFresco]

What about those of us planning on opening a business? Are we allowed to b*tch? :D


When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.

[civic95]

But its done everyday unfortunately... From blacks to Hispanics to jews.. Until racism is abolished.. the race card will always be there

What you mean is as long as we are different colors, the race card will always be used. That's bullshit. Everyone has the same opportunity in this country starting today. Males, females, black, white, asian. I don't want to hear it. Seems like some people still want to use it as an excuse when it's convenient.

[AirMax95]

WHen i was in HS Economics, Government and political Science were all required courses

has that changed?

You are very correct sir, but you and I both know that there are older people who forget, many that don't care, and some that really never understood it in school. School is a pressure for many people. Many did not want to dissapoint thier parents, so they cheated their way to good grades, learning jack shit.

A community seminar/class or something of the sort will not be a pressure, and will slowly better America and honestly not cost us a lot.

I am not arguing that people should be hand fed information, hell its on the web EVERYWHERE. I do feel though that our education system can be supplemented through community involvement. I went to pretty decent schools growing up, made excellent grades, then went to college for 2 degrees. Honeslty, I gained a lot of knowledge through the after school programs that reinerated the classroom learning.

I am going to pitch this to some people and attempt to get a ball rolling.

[Ran]

Frustration more than angerUnderstandable. This has been one of the ugliest election seasons that I've seen due to ignorance from all people. I'm just glad it's over.


Joking about slavery/racism is not something that I can agree with. I am opened-minded beyon belief, but there are too many racist and bigots out there that make me want to punch them. I interact with the community alot and refuse to let those notions continue to get swept under the rug.This is just one of those times where you need to tell who's joking and who's actually an ignorant b*stard. I, personally, will joke about anything from race to religion. That's just me though.


When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.I was joking man, hence the smilie. lol

I am actually working towards my own business though. :)

[Maniacc]

Obama won, kewl, I say lets not suck each others dicks just yet, two months til the landlord hands him the keys. Who knows what's gonna happen. I still think that marshall law is on the cards by then. If ya know what I mean.

[AirMax95]

Understandable. This has been one of the ugliest election seasons that I've seen due to ignorance from all people. I'm just glad it's over.

This is just one of those times where you need to tell who's joking and who's actually an ignorant b*stard. I, personally, will joke about anything from race to religion. That's just me though.

I was joking man, hence the smilie. lol

I am actually working towards my own business though. :)

This election was terrible. I hate to see it when a Hispanic or Asian (looks like or is, lol) attempts to run for office.

I have been picking apart peoples words my WHOLE life, lol. I am pretty good at it. I have never worked with black people since I graduated college. There are 4 in my office now, including me. I have heard some comments in the office, but let them go b/c they seem like jokes.

Not everyone is that way, but at least you realize it exists.

[The Ren]

What you mean is as long as we are different colors, the race card will always be used. That's bullshit. Everyone has the same opportunity in this country starting today. Males, females, black, white, asian. I don't want to hear it. Seems like some people still want to use it as an excuse when it's convenient.

No thats no what I mean... What I mean is as long as people SEE it that way then we will. If people dont get over themselves and fucking realize that the COLOR of someones skin means nothing then we will never get rid of racism.

[Sport1.3]

When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.

Actually, it deters small business, which accounts for a very large portion of the US economy.....its directly proportional. 2/3's of 1/2% (half was reported by households in the top marginal income tax rate) of the 706 Billion dollars reported annually in 2006 was accredited to small business. That’s roughly 235 billion dollars. Why work harder, when you're not going to earn much more money? How then do we stimulate small business owners to buy more, create more job opportunities, expand, Provide for their families, give back more to their immediate community and so on.... Obama's Capital gain proposal is sickening as is. A tax rate that is the highest marginal rate faced in nearly a quarter-century. 37.9% to 50.3% for Sole proprietor and partner rate. You tell me how most small business owners will afford to maintain their business, let alone those who are driven away at the prospect.

[BobbyFresco]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

[BobbyFresco]

No thats no what I mean... What I mean is as long as people SEE it that way then we will. If people dont get over themselves and fucking realize that the COLOR of someones skin means nothing then we will never get rid of racism.


Racism will always exist. There's no if and's or but's about it.
All one can hope is that one day, it will only be a very marginal issue.

[Sport1.3]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

i agree this could be one of a very few possitive outlooks on the situation

[4dmin]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.

you won't either b/c they can afford cpa's to make up more then 3%

i would love to know the incomes of all of these "educated voters"

[AirMax95]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

Well said........ :yes:

[BobbyFresco]

you won't either b/c they can afford cpa's to make up more then 3%

i would love to know the incomes of all of these "educated voters"


Yup. Ppl with REAL money have REALLY good accountants...

I know this for a fact. What with all the loopholes and write off's, the increase is a joke.

[4dmin]

You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft.....:ninja: :lmfao: JP.

I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then???? ;)

You still my boy blue. ;)

here is what i'm not drinking the juice on... Obama got the majority vote for every age bracket except seniors... EVERY AGE BRACKET. sorry but the bright minds of america aren't 70+ years old; i would love to know the education level of people under 50 vs 50+. You may be very surprised to find that McCain won't have as many voters as you think if they all had to take a test.

[ksniperfox]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!

[Sport1.3]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!


GIVE ME MAH MONIES!!!

[§treet_§peed]

eh looks like i don't need to go job hunting now....

[BobbyFresco]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?

[AirMax95]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!

Yep, and I bought 2 :D

[Ran]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?Obama won. No riots necessary.

[HalfBaked]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?
People I know said there were people celebrating in their apartment complex and throwing beer bottles. Other people I talked to heard gunshots.

[Sport1.3]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?
that was if McCain won bro lol

[Sport1.3]

People I know said there were people celebrating in their apartment complex and throwing beer bottles. Other people I talked to heard gunshots.

there were reported gunshots at Spellman College on the news

[ksniperfox]

Yep, and I bought 2 :D



lol i was going to buy one too, but the time i got off, we were out of papers:(


i mean im white, but the 1st black president is pretty damn major historical event and should be a good read if you ask me.

[4dmin]

there were reported gunshots at Spellman College on the news

:police: lol like thats any different then every other night there :rolleyes:

[BobbyFresco]

There were people claiming that the negras would riot regardless.
And I'm sure had Mccain won, there would have been no riots.
And rednecks and yuppies alike, would have been firing off guns and acting an ass as well.

[AirMax95]

lol i was going to buy one too, but the time i got off, we were out of papers:(


i mean im white, but the 1st black president is pretty damn major historical event and should be a good read if you ask me.

Yeah, all bullshit aside, it is a good feeling IMO whether or not you like him.

It motivated me to step up in my own life. I am not doing bad, but there is more that I can do to help the country.

[4dmin]

bobby i'm wondering how the girl in your sig feels right now... :lmao:

[BobbyFresco]

bobby i'm wondering how the girl in your sig feels right now... :lmao:


All that work for nothing...LOLOLOL
She's probably in a mental institution somewhere.
On a serious note, I hope she gets the help she needs.

[4dmin]

All that work for nothing...LOLOLOL
She's probably in a mental institution somewhere.
On a serious note, I hope she gets the help she needs.

lol i hope she gets stuck in the pooper by a really big black man for making up some stoopid ass BS story. carve a backward letter in your face and pick the wrong one :rolleyes:

[§treet_§peed]

if you didn't vote for McCain then your racist and sexist as well!!!! it is a double edge sword... its a loose loose situation..

[OneSlow5pt0]

i still think all the media,u know MTV,BET etc....almsot make it out to show voting for obama is the right thing,if u dont ur wrong........and as it was the cool thing too

i agree with some of obama's views like abortion and gay rights,but i dont like his background and lack of exp.

2 times i hate that he was said is:hes not gonna drill off shore for oil,and hes gonna raise taxes very high on price of coal,which will put them out of jobs.....which is funny since coal mining country voted for him

[Sport1.3]

:police: lol like thats any different then every other night there :rolleyes:


:lmao:

[Jaimecbr900]

here is what i'm not drinking the juice on... Obama got the majority vote for every age bracket except seniors... EVERY AGE BRACKET. sorry but the bright minds of america aren't 70+ years old; i would love to know the education level of people under 50 vs 50+. You may be very surprised to find that McCain won't have as many voters as you think if they all had to take a test.

That may very well be true, and yet I still stand by my statement. I didn't make the statement merely as some excuse why Mccain didn't get elected. I made the statement more so because I'd rather politicians be elected based on educated information and knowledge about what they proclaim to stand for instead of being elected because they bombarded the masses with fancy commercials and herd mentality. Know what I mean?

See, I don't have a single problem with anyone defending their belief and their vote IF they defend it using intelligence and common sense. If they just rattle off some infomercial they saw on TV as a justification for their vote, then they'd be better off buying widgets off the Shopping Network and leave the voting to people who take it seriously.

[Friggintitsman]

Ok what did I miss?

[Mr. Clean]

That may very well be true, and yet I still stand by my statement. I didn't make the statement merely as some excuse why Mccain didn't get elected. I made the statement more so because I'd rather politicians be elected based on educated information and knowledge about what they proclaim to stand for instead of being elected because they bombarded the masses with fancy commercials and herd mentality. Know what I mean?

See, I don't have a single problem with anyone defending their belief and their vote IF they defend it using intelligence and common sense. If they just rattle off some infomercial they saw on TV as a justification for their vote, then they'd be better off buying widgets off the Shopping Network and leave the voting to people who take it seriously.

yeah i was just saying something to my boss today about this factor. yes this was the largest voter turn out and my generation of voters came out in herds. that doesn't mean that votes were cast by people who knew wtf they were doing. i think a VAST majority of my generation that voted, just voted because they are supposed to now. so whoever they saw the best commercial for or whoever was cool (as lame as that sounds, i BET that shit happened). and also, my g/f is a perfect example, a lot of my gen. voted for a party based on what their parents beliefs or voted for a party simply because they didn't want to be like their parents. my g/f voted republican. why? because her parents are republican. if you asked her why... i bet money she would stumble all over the place and maybe ramble a fact from a commercial or something she heard from her parents or a colleague. so i think a lot of votes were cast as just a shadow of their parents vote.

[00CiViC00]

im sorry but ...
imo i think the reason whe had a crazy turnout for voters is because he is "BlAcK" (not to be racist but i have never seen so many black voters at the polls in my life)
... and the funny part is my father told me that if he was to be arrested by the FBI or such he would be booked in as a WHITE MALE .

[buddha@TeamFX]

Yea it sucks Obama won...I don't necessarily like McCain but he is better than Obama...When people ask me my main reason I tell them I wasn't voting someone with muslim/islam backgrounds into office. This country was founded on christianity and it should stay that way!
No I'm not racist and this is just the way I believe...

[Dr.G35]

Race did play a part in this and that's undeniable and however asinine it may seem, it's human nature.

Take for instance, you're Asain.

Had there been an Asian candidate, it's safe to say he or she would get overwhelming support from the Asian community. That's a fact.

Also, the Black vote doesn't account significantly for Obama winning the votes in states significantly populated by Whites.

95% of black people who voted, voted for obama.

[BobbyFresco]

95% of black people who voted, voted for obama.


And your point is?
If the Democratic candidate had been White, the percentage would have still been high. Kerry got 87.4 % of the Black vote in 2004.


Get off of it.
Black ppl mostly vote Democratic.
Obama = Democratic and guess what...he happened to be Black. Big fk'in deal.

[Vteckidd]

95% of black people who voted, voted for obama.

While that is true, Blacks tend to trend Democrat anyways.

The real point about this election is not the total percentage, but the TOTAL NUMBER of Blacks that voted. I do not know the actual numbers but let me put it in perspective.


Kerry got 90% of the "black Vote". Lets say ONLY 1000 people Blacks Voted in 2004. That means Kerry got 900 Votes to the Republicans 100.

Obama got 90% of the "black vote". Lets say 1 million Blacks voted in 2008. That means OBama got 900,000 votes to the Republicans 100,000.

That means a gain of 899,100 votes for Dems and 99,900 for Republicans.

So Obamas 90% is much more significant than Kerrys "90%"

[Vteckidd]

Obama also got over 63% of the "white" vote so it doesnt seem this election was motivated by race. People of all colors were voting for Obama. While i will agree that the number of blacks voting increased because it was a black candidate, but i would expect the same if a Hispanic or Asian were running too.

Its only natural for one to take pride in their race an in that respect this was a historic election.

My disdain for Obama has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I didnt like Kerry either. I just didnt like the Dems policies.

I guess my main grievance would be the people that voted for obama SOLELY based on him being black. But to make that argument you would have to have some hard to get data. Likewise im sure there was a bunch of people that DIDNT vote for him because he was black.

Again after seeing the results i dont think race played a big role in this election

[BobbyFresco]

Obama also got over 63% of the "white" vote so it doesnt seem this election was motivated by race. People of all colors were voting for Obama. While i will agree that the number of blacks voting increased because it was a black candidate, but i would expect the same if a Hispanic or Asian were running too.

Its only natural for one to take pride in their race an in that respect this was a historic election.

My disdain for Obama has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I didnt like Kerry either. I just didnt like the Dems policies.

I guess my main grievance would be the people that voted for obama SOLELY based on him being black. But to make that argument you would have to have some hard to get data. Likewise im sure there was a bunch of people that DIDNT vote for him because he was black.

Again after seeing the results i dont think race played a big role in this election




Exactly.:cheers:

The whole who voted for whom based on race argument is moot as there is no hard evidence to substantiate claims from either side.

Based on the numbers we do have, it stands to reason that his win wasn't based overwhelmingly on race.

And also, I agree with the assertion that if the candidate had been Asian or Hispanic, there would be significant representation from those groups as well.


The moral of the story ppl...Let it go. No amount of bitching and pointing fingers is going to change the results.

Ironically, it was being said that if Mccain won, Black ppl would holler foul play and racism but here it is being used by the other side of the fence.

[Vteckidd]

Ironically, it was being said that if Mccain won, Black ppl would holler foul play and racism but here it is being used by the other side of the fence.

I will say this, and it may come off wrong, but hear me out.

The majority of the black people i have seen have been pleasant. they havent been gloating, or saying anything negative or derogatory. And i wouldnt expect them to. Just saying that is my observation. i was sitting in the food court of a mall on Wed for lunch, and i was surrounded by Black Businessmen and not one of them was talking (i was eavesdropping) or gloating about OBama winning. It was just another normal day.

Now, i havent heard any white people upset either from the people ive talked to.

Maybe our race relations are alot better than we think...........

Also, i think if Mccain won people would have accepted it. Maybe been upset, but would have accepted it. I dont think there would have been riots, and if there were riots, it would be from the same low life scum that rioted during OJ, World Series, Rodney King, etc.

If Obama would have lost by less than 500 votes, like Gore did in 2000, man, i shutter to think what would have happened. It prob would have been pretty bad from BOTH sides

[SL65AMG]

I'm kind of glad Obama won.... it's one less thing black people can bitch about.

im waiting for the attitude shift coming..... well see how it goes

[BobbyFresco]

I will say this, and it may come off wrong, but hear me out.

The majority of the black people i have seen have been pleasant. they havent been gloating, or saying anything negative or derogatory. And i wouldnt expect them to. Just saying that is my observation. i was sitting in the food court of a mall on Wed for lunch, and i was surrounded by Black Businessmen and not one of them was talking (i was eavesdropping) or gloating about OBama winning. It was just another normal day.

Now, i havent heard any white people upset either from the people ive talked to.

Maybe our race relations are alot better than we think...........

Also, i think if Mccain won people would have accepted it. Maybe been upset, but would have accepted it. I dont think there would have been riots, and if there were riots, it would be from the same low life scum that rioted during OJ, World Series, Rodney King, etc.

If Obama would have lost by less than 500 votes, like Gore did in 2000, man, i shutter to think what would have happened. It prob would have been pretty bad from BOTH sides



I've seen, read and heard the race baiting from both sides since yesterday and it's ridiculous, to be honest.

Not to undermine President Elect Obama's accomplishment but his winning is not indicative of complete racial harmony in this country.

Ugly feelings and motives, from both sides, have come to the surface because of the obvious.

[Vteckidd]

I've seen, read and heard the race baiting from both sides since yesterday and it's ridiculous, to be honest.

Not to undermine President Elect Obama's accomplishment but his winning is not indicative of complete racial harmony in this country.

Ugly feelings and motives, from both sides, have come to the surface because of the obvious.

yeah true, i mean you hear it, but in reality, at least for me, i have encountered anyone racist toward me, and regardles of what you think, im not racist either lol.

My black friends, are still my friends, so are my white friends.

Maybe this in a way was the BEST thing that could have happened RACE wise.

[gtrmonkey]

Were all going to be broke, there were communist flag being waved around after he won.

[BobbyFresco]

Were all going to be broke, there were communist flag being waved around after he won.


:lmfao: :rolleyes:



You're right. " We" are not broke right now. Not even a little.
Nevermind the bailout.
Nevermind the stockmarket.
Nevermind that GM, Ford, and Chrysler are asking the government for money.
Nevermind the fact that ppl are losing their jobs and homes and are having to receive handouts. I repeat, ppl are already receiving HANDOUTS.

[dorin48]

This thread has exploded faster than I can read it all. Forgive me if there is a lot of over lap---->( that should be understood as a "trend" with ligitimate reasons behind it.)

Yes Obama got every unethical vote in the nation.

Ive had several of my own experiences proving that people seriously have no idea what his policies are and regurgitate the media brain washing. So you are not alone others whom have stated such.

Socialized Medical Care BLOWS look at Canada.

Giving money to the poor, redistributing wealth, socializing private sectors, heavily taxing the group that spends the most and such stresses the infrastructure of thecountry. Yes our country is in hard economic times. That means we can't afford the stress on the system.

But whatever people like generalized words like "change" and "free money".

Oh and btw im bitter lol but i'll cope.

My biggest wish in all of this is that it just doesnt get too screwed up. If he manages to pull that off I'll stop voting. (LOL)

[blaknoize]

your an idiot, you think we are felling the immediate affects of bush? it doesnt happen that quickly. Plus Bush went through September 11th, Iraq War, Katrina, and countless other events that branched off from the three major ones I listed. I would love to see Obama's "experience" in those situations.

Pretty much, GOD showed his bad side on Bush and took it out on his country, since Bush is not the son of man and will not control the world. sry

[blaknoize]

Its amazing though. During the BUSH Presidency, when did you every bluntly ask someone why they supported him? I've never once heard that question these 8 years. No one can really even remember why. Its a non-issue. Yall are all hot in ur pants because he's dark, socialist, bah.
Whether those voted for the pure hope of "change" or for his policies, its a non issue, more of the country voted for than against, ESPECIALLY the money center of America, New England. Where obviously the tax increase will effect a wide majority (that does not exclude CA and TX and bits of GA, FL WA and NE, yes richness is there as well.)
So all this crying and kicking and screaming over other people other than urself talking about someone elses policies is a waste and is solely placed on this for a argument.
Maybe YOU studied Bush's policies, but very few of ur friends and co-workers can verify and read mostly word for word. So leave it be, suck it up, its someone elses turn to lead this nation, turn it around and get it headed for our futures, our kids futures. Not for ur greedy ass American views.

[dorin48]

Another tid bit for all the Obama philes who are reading this. I think most who voted for McCain will agree with me when I say that "He was a lesser of two evils." I didn't care for either candidate but I believe after looking at BOTH of their policies (not just watching their ads) that McCain would suck less that is all. If a space blob somehow had managed to qualify for the presidency and had good ethics, policies, and experience I'd vote for him. Definitley wasn't about race/religion or anything of the sort for me. Just qualifications.

[cobalt9123]

Obama was meant to win. The powers that be made it happen. He's taking the fall for GWB's mess up. Noone can fix the economy we have right now, only time will fix it. Obama is going to pull out of iraq(FUCK UP) and that will screw him over. You notice there were a lot of republicans that voted democrat this year. GWB made a mess of things and now Obama has to (TRY) to fix things. He won't be able to, and when he doesn't, Election of 2012 the Republican campaign will use the same thing the Dem's used against the republican's this year "Do you really want another OBAMA?" Noone will be thinking of the republicans GWB, they'll just be thinking of B-Racks Shit attack!

[yerrow]

palin 2012

[BobbyFresco]

palin 2012



You can't be serious?
I hope you're being facetious.

[alpine_aw11]

palin 2012

LOL